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Subject: Hockey Free Agency and Trades
Posted by: barilko6
- [52261810] Fri, Jun 22, 2007, 13:54
Leafs trade 1st, 2nd, and a later pick to San Jose for Goalie Vesa Toskala and winger Mark Bell. |
| 1 | C.SuperFreak
ID: 3010403013
Fri, Jun 22, 2007, 16:09
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If Toskala can do what Kipper did in Calgary I'll be very happy with this deal. The acquistion of Bell may indicate that the Leafs have no further interest in Jeff O'Neill.
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| 2 | barilko6
ID: 52261810
Fri, Jun 22, 2007, 16:58
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I think this is a good move. I also think it sets up a deal to move one of their extra defensemen and possibly another forward.
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| 3 | barilko6
ID: 52261810
Fri, Jun 22, 2007, 17:09
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Vokuon was just dealt to Florida for a package of draft picks. Will be interesting to see how this compares.
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| 4 | Little M
ID: 81022012
Fri, Jun 22, 2007, 17:16
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From TSN.ca
The Nashville Predators have traded goaltender Tomas Vokoun to the Florida Panthers for a first-round pick and two second-round picks.
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| 5 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Sat, Jun 23, 2007, 08:43
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If Toskala can do what Kipper did in Calgary I'll be very happy with this deal.
At least you don't have high expectations or anything! :)
Interesting that these guys are getting moved just for picks. Vokoun to Florida seems like a huge get for the Panthers.
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| 6 | smallwhirled
ID: 495451913
Sat, Jun 23, 2007, 09:08
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Penguins sign both Gary Roberts and Mark Recchi.
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| 7 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Sun, Jun 24, 2007, 02:11
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At least the Sharks traded Toskala out of the Conference this time!
Sharks got some top flight talent in Round 1 today though. There are some doubts about Couture but he seems to be a top flight playmaker.......and Petrecki looks like a steal towards the end of Round 1. GO SHARKS!
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| 8 | C.SuperFreak
ID: 3010403013
Mon, Jun 25, 2007, 15:47
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J, I'm a Leaf fan. I gotta grab onto something. Hopefully the damn team will win the cup before I leave this mortal coil.
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| 9 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Sun, Jul 01, 2007, 15:39
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2:48pm et
Anaheim Ducks sign defenceman Mathieu Schneider to a two-year, $11.25 million contract.
(why????? is Neidermeyer retiring???)
2:24pm et
Florida Panthers sign forward Richard Zednik to two-year, $3.25 million contract and forward Brett McLean to three-year, $5.1 million contract.
2:17pm et
Washington Capitals sign D Tom Poti to four-year, $14 million contract.
(That seems high)
1:47pm et
Atlanta Thrashers sign C Todd White to four-year, $9.5 million contract.
(Now they need to resign Belanger & Kozlov)
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| 10 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Sun, Jul 01, 2007, 16:42
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4:01pm et
Defenceman Brian Rafalski agrees to a five year, $30 million contract with the Detroit Red Wings.
(Didn't take long to replace Schneider, but $6mil a year for Rafalski????)
3:57pm et
Calgary signs defenceman Cory Sarich to a five year, $18 million deal worth an average of $3.6 million per year.
3:48pm et
Daniel Briere signs with the Philadelphia Flyers for eight years and $52 million. The deal includes a no movement clause.
(8 years???????????)
3:38pm et
The Edmonton Oilers have signed free agent defencemen Dick Tarnstrom and Denis Grebeshkov to one-year contracts.
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| 11 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Sun, Jul 01, 2007, 18:03
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5:59pm et
The Carolina Hurricanes agree to a two-year contract worth $800,000 per year with forward Jeff Hamilton.
5:41pm et
Florida Panthers have signed forward Radek Dvorak to a two-year contract.
5:14pm et
The Boston Bruins have signed free-agent right winger Shawn Thornton to a multi-year contract.
4:41pm et
Forward Yanic Perreault agrees to terms with the Chicago Blackhawks on a one-year, $1.5 million contract.
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| 12 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Sun, Jul 01, 2007, 19:57
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7:47pm et
The New York Rangers have signed forward Chris Drury.
7:34pm et
The New York Rangers have signed forward Scott Gomez to a seven-year deal worth $51.5 million.
7:32pm et
The Toronto Maple Leafs have signed winger Jason Blake to a four-year deal worth $20 million.
6:34pm et
The Atlanta Thrashers have signed forward Eric Perrin to a two year deal worth $1.5 million.
6:03pm et
The Tampa Bay Lightning have signed unrestricted free agent right winger Michel Ouellet to a two-year deal worth $1.2 million and $1.3 million.
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| 13 | walk
ID: 2530286
Sun, Jul 01, 2007, 20:05
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J....! Great news for my NYR! Two excellent, speedy, heady offensive centers. Much depth there now with Nylander, Drury and Gomez. Sweet.
- walk
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| 14 | walk
ID: 2530286
Sun, Jul 01, 2007, 20:10
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Then again, I see that Nylander is a free agent and they might not be able to afford these 2 centers and him... - walk
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| 15 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Sun, Jul 01, 2007, 21:12
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The Oilers acquired defenceman Joni Pitkanen and forward Geoff Sanderson from the Philadelphia Flyers on Sunday for blue-liner Jason Smith and forward Joffrey Lupul.
Link
8:36pm et
The New York Islanders have signed winger Jon Sim to a three-year deal.
8:22pm et
The Colorado Avalanche have signed D Scott Hannan to a four-year deal worth $18 million.
8:21pm et
The Pittsburgh Penguins have signed G Dany Sabourin to a two-year deal worth $1.025 million.
7:59pm et
The Washington Capitals have signed forward Viktor Kozlov to a two-year deal worth $5 million.
7:47pm et
The New York Rangers have signed forward Chris Drury to a five-year deal worth $35.25 million.
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| 16 | walk
ID: 75112114
Mon, Jul 02, 2007, 09:46
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J, the Hockey transaction maven...thx.
Rangers coach Tom Renney confirmed that they will "turn the page" on Nylander and not sign him. I'll take the two we got, but Nylander was a joy to watch.
- walk
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| 17 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Mon, Jul 02, 2007, 09:52
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Petr Sykora --> PIT (2yrs/No terms disclosed)
Darryl Sydor --> PIT (2yrs/5mil)
Paul Kariya --> STL (3yrs/18mil)
Ryan Smyth --> COL (5yrs/31.25mil) ouch!
Heard that Nylander was signing with the Oilers, but nothing official yet.
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| 18 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Mon, Jul 02, 2007, 12:40
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Keith Tkachuk was also signed by the Blues prior to free agency. 2yr deal, no terms disclosed, I think he is going to play Center.
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| 19 | R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Mon, Jul 02, 2007, 16:29
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It sounds like the Rangers weren't expecting to get both. Not a huge problem, but I'm sure they had Nylander in their sights after signing ONE of the two they got.
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| 20 | smallwhirled
ID: 105152613
Mon, Jul 02, 2007, 16:48
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I agree on the "ouch" for Ryan Smyth.
Apologies to my Canadian friends, but I just think he's a little overrated...
I'm a little sad to see Ouellet go being a Pens fan.
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| 21 | walk
ID: 75112114
Mon, Jul 02, 2007, 17:05
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No Rogue, I read an article that the NYR had a 3 year $11M offer to Nylander on the table since March. He turned it down and never countered (of course, I don't know Nylander's side of the story). Sooo, they figured that Nylander wanted to test the market, and also thought they could get younger if they could get both Drury and Gomez. Still, they also said they were surprised that they got both centers, so I think if they would have only gotten Drury OR Gomez, they would have swallowed a little pride and called Nylander again with a higher offer. All in all, they did well getting two younger players who play more 2-way hockey and who have rings.
- walk
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| 22 | walk
ID: 75112114
Mon, Jul 02, 2007, 17:07
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I think Ryan Smyth is one of those gritty but scoring type wingers that are hard to find these days. He's also clutch. He doesn't score 40+ goals every year, but he gets around 30-35 and he creates a lof of space for his fellow linemates. Crap like that.
- walk
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| 23 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Mon, Jul 02, 2007, 18:21
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5:36pm et
The Chicago Blackhawks signed centre Robert Lang to a two-year contract.
Don't know for how much, but, the Blackhawks????
5:13pm et
The Montreal Canadiens signed defenceman Roman Hamrlik to a four-year contract worth $12 million.
Is Sheldon Souray officially not coming back now? $3mil is actually not too bad for Hamrlik given the other recent d-men contracts (EDIT - I see another site shows the deal is 22mil, that would be NUTS)
4:51pm et
The Washington Capitals signed centre Michael Nylander to a four-year contract worth $19.5 million.
F'in Craps
12:36pm et
The Vancouver Canucks have signed Lukas Krajicek to a two-year contract worth $2.2 milion.
11:57am et
Forward Bates Battaglia has signed a two-year deal with Toronto worth $650,000 per season.
11:13am et
The Nashville Predators have signed free-agent forward Jed Ortmeyer to a two-year contract worth $1.5-million.
750k per year seems like the first true bargain of the offseason
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| 24 | Dec
ID: 259300
Mon, Jul 02, 2007, 18:54
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Yeap, that's nuts Hamrlik deal is 22M/4yr. But compare with all the signings, it looks like the market price.
Souray is not coming back, Habs offers the same money 22M/4yr and he reject it, I can't blame him but I won't miss him.
And I thought before yesterday that 3 or 4M/1Yr would be enought to sign Schneider or Kariya, was I disconnect with reality or what?
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| 25 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Mon, Jul 02, 2007, 20:49
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7:44pm et
The Calgary Flames signed forward Owen Nolan to a one-year contract worth $1.75 million.
He's still around???
7:10pm et
The Anaheim Ducks have signed forward Todd Bertuzzi to a two-year contract worth $8 million.
The best get better
6:08pm et
The Nashville Predators have signed forward Radek Bonk and defenceman Greg de Vries to two-year contracts.
Wooohoooo, deVries is gone from the Thrashers, he's AWFUL!!!!
Others:
The Montreal Canadians have signed centre Bryan Smolinski to a one-year contract worth $2 million.
The Los Angeles Kings have signed Kyle Calder to a two-year contract worth $5.5 million.
The Los Angeles Kings have signed Ladislav Nagy to a one-year contract worth $3.75 million.
Trade bait at the all star break, I'm surprised more cellar dweller teams don't do this
The Los Angeles Kings have signed Michal Handzus to a four-year contract worth $16 million.
The Minnesota Wild have signed Steve Kelly to a one-year contract.
The Atlanta Thrashers have signed D Ken Klee to a two-year contract worth $2.5 million.
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| 26 | C.SuperFreak
ID: 42481919
Sat, Jul 07, 2007, 19:42
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New York Islanders sign forward Bill Guerin to a two-year, $9 million contract.
Buffalo matches Edmonton's offer of a 7yr 50
million deal for Vanek.
Some of the offers listed are ridiculous.
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| 27 | C.SuperFreak
ID: 9611319
Fri, Aug 03, 2007, 10:46
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Well Edmonton gets Penner for 4.5 million. Last year he made $450,000.
Ducks get a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round pick for the young 20 goal scorer.
Edmonton doesn't have to show up to next years draft so they'll save a bit a dough by cancelling that trip.
Overheard at the GM meetings. "Kevin Lowe, your table for one is ready".
I'd like to know how an Oiler fan feels about this deal.
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| 28 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Fri, Aug 03, 2007, 11:02
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Wow, its very possible for the Ducks to win the cup next year (again) and also get the #1 overall pick!!!
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| 29 | barilko6
ID: 972539
Fri, Aug 03, 2007, 11:14
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Yeah, there is no way the Ducks even come close to this deal in my mind with Getzlaf and Perry coming up soon. They had a hard enough time getting Penner to play last year.
Lowe sure isn't making too many friends with his moves, but if I am Brian Burke, I send Lowe a bottle of wine and some cigars and say thanks for the picks!!!
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| 30 | donk44
ID: 42611019
Fri, Aug 03, 2007, 21:58
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how are these teams signing all these players to these huge $5million - $8million per year deals ? I thought they put in a salary cap after the last strike/lockout. seems like many of these contracts will be 15% - 20% of their total payroll for one player.
and why they are handing out 6 & 7 year contracts like halloween candy is also beyond me.
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| 31 | barilko6
ID: 52261810
Sat, Aug 04, 2007, 17:50
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Yeah...we are on the way to another lockout in less than 3 years it seems to me...
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| 32 | R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Sun, Aug 05, 2007, 17:31
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The contracts went up because the cap went up. The cap went up because league revenues went up. Thats all there is to it. Of course, just like in baseball, we may have seen the biggest deals we will in a while. There can only be so many 8 mil per year deals out there, in a cap world... But the market will adjust each year based on cap space and players available...
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| 33 | donk44
ID: 42611019
Sun, Aug 05, 2007, 20:01
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thank you R9
would you happen to know how many $million$ the cap is this year, and what it was last year. curious how much it went up.
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| 34 | R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Mon, Aug 06, 2007, 02:09
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Pretty sure I read the cap barely passed the 50 mil mark. Last years was ~ 43-44 mil, so it rose a fair amount. Teams like Philly will be in rough shape to form their roster 2-3 years from now if the cap declines. Given that we have quite often seen a decline in attendance in all sports a few years after a big surge, it wouldn't be surprising...
In any case, I don't think that a team having 3 big contracts all earning 8.5 mil per year is necessarily a bad thing... IF that team has lots of young talent coming up to fill in the gaps with cheapo entry-level contracts, instead of the veteran who would earn ~ 1.5 mil for the same role. That said, Mr. Lowe has created quite the stir by going after those cheap, young players. How that will affect the GM game next year and the years that follow is anyone's guess.
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