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0 Subject: HTML Lessons, cont'd

Posted by: J
- [470183114] Wed, Feb 02, 16:57

OK, Hark, stop causing trouble!!!!!! hehehe

Anyways, lets use this thread so that the HTML knowledgables can teach us kids new tricks with HTML. So far I've learned how to make tables and how to align stuff. I'm off to a good start!!!!

P-Phan showed me a helpful website -
http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/authoring/tables

(I dont know how to make it open in a new browser, or even if that will come up as a link)

But its good for newcomer's like me!
1BMBags
      ID: 360273113
      Wed, Feb 02, 17:20
Is this of use:

http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/authoring/tables

lta href="http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/authoring/tables" target="_blank">http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/authoring/tables lt/a>

lt is less than symbol
2BMBags
      ID: 360273113
      Wed, Feb 02, 17:22
the target="_blank" is what makes it open a new window
3 Mujeriego
      ID: 20113122
      Wed, Feb 02, 17:44
see if this helps:

[a href="www.rotoguru.com" target="_blank"]text discription here[/a]

if you change [ and ] into < and > you will get:


text discription here



4J
      ID: 00202820
      Wed, Feb 02, 17:47
next question, actually 2 questions:

1) How do you make the column widths bigger???

2) How do I make it so the lines dont show up in the tables????
5Harkonnon
      ID: 40048295
      Wed, Feb 02, 18:06
So the troublemaker is back !

Sorry guys for fuggin' up in the last thread, but still can anyone tell me what happened there !

It showed up in line in the preview. I wouldn't have posted it if it was broken.


6philliephan
      ID: 36120218
      Wed, Feb 02, 18:26
J - you can specify a minimum width for the column as follows [TD WIDTH=100] where the [] become <>.
This says the column must be at least 100 pixels in width (at least usually, I do this for a living and tables get tricky on you at times). You should only have to do this on the first row (column headers).
7philliephan
      ID: 36120218
      Wed, Feb 02, 18:29
For the "lines" you can fool with the values in the [TABLE], e.g [TABLE BORDER=0] will get rid of the lines, you may also specify values for CELLSPACING and CELLPADDING, the most compact table will be
[TABLE BORDER=0 CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0]
but if you are not careful with your WIDTH's etc. the values will run into each other.
(Again replace all [] with <>)
8BMBags
      ID: 360273113
      Wed, Feb 02, 18:31
Question #1:


1 2
3 4


[table border="2" cellspacing="2" width="100" cellpadding="2"]
[tr]
[td width="60"]1[/td]
[td width="24"]2[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td width="60"]3[/td]
[td width="24"]4[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]

To adjust the cell width you can change the 60 or 24. Also you can use a percentage format, where in the table declaration you can make the 100, 100%. This will make the table width 100% of the page. You can do the same for the individual cells, where 60 can be 60%, etc.


Question #2:

1 2
3 4




[table border="2" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="2" width="100"]
[tr]
[td]1[/td]
[td]2[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]3[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]

[ = < & ] = >

If you adjust the border it will adjust the size of the border, the cellpadding adjusts the height of the cells, and the cellspacing adjusts the space around each individual cell.

If you make the border "0" then no lines will appear.

9philliephan
      ID: 36120218
      Wed, Feb 02, 18:45
An example to show what just cellspacing does (using a background color to show the spacing):

1
2
34


code replace [] with <>

[table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" width="100" bgcolor=lightgrey][tr][td]1
[/td] [td]2[/td][/tr][tr][td]3[/td][td]4[/td][/tr][/table]
10Code Cracker
      ID: 5002298
      Wed, Feb 02, 19:39
Here is a good html reference site that lists all the various tags. It also has a table tutorial.

HTML Reference
11aiko aiko
      ID: 300233112
      Wed, Feb 02, 20:08

thanks for all the html lessons. great stuff.
is there some trick to having my team show up on the gurupies standings list?
-aiko
12Mujeriego
      ID: 20113122
      Wed, Feb 02, 20:37
Is can the list be longer than 100 now?
13J
      ID: 14113222
      Wed, Feb 02, 22:24
No, its still staying at 100, I'll start another waiting list thread (probably the final one of the year) sometime soon on the standings boards.
14J
      ID: 2908318
      Thu, Feb 03, 11:05
new question: How do I align a column as a whole??? I can do it now by putting the align="center" in EVERY cell, but thats too much. In fact its not letting me post the basketball standings because I have too many characters I think. So this one is kind of an ASAP question!!!

Thanks!!
J
15Code Cracker
      ID: 420183110
      Thu, Feb 03, 11:38
J, you can use a COLGROUP. I haven't used this much myself but I think it goes something like this:

[table border="1"]
[colgroup][col align="center" span="1"]
[colgroup][col align="left" span="1"]
[tr][td]Rank[/td][td]$$$[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]1[/td][td]1,000[/td][/tr>][/table]

Again, replace [ with < and ] with >.

span refers to the number of columns.
This code makes a two column table with the left column centered and the right column left justified.
16Code Cracker
      ID: 420183110
      Thu, Feb 03, 11:48
J, I just found out that COL and COLGROUP are IE-specific tags so if someone is using Nutscrape, er, Netscape, then it might not work.

More tag information is here
17philliephan
      ID: 1607316
      Thu, Feb 03, 11:52
yeah, those will be ignored in netscape
18J
      ID: 2908318
      Thu, Feb 03, 11:54

Name
Points
WWR
Yesterday
Last 5 Days
$$$$$
Trades
*GRC
1 KB8ers GM I 17,505.5 6 326.5 969.0 $92.47 4 0
2 KB8ers GM II 17,365.5 8 331.0 946.5 $88.46 5 +2
3 Duncan's Doom 17,333.5 10 285.5 1,024.0 $98.85 4 0
4 wEEds 17,316.5 11 233.0 933.5 $90.18 5 -2
5 J II 17,240.5 16 340.5 1,142.5 $95.09 10 0

ok, what am I doing wrong???? Am I supposed to put all of the code in the very first cell??????
19Code Cracker
      ID: 420183110
      Thu, Feb 03, 13:13
If you want to center all columns then change your beginning code to the following:

[TABLE border=0 bgcolor=#FFFFFF][col align="center" span="9"][TR][TH][/TH][TH] Name [/TH][TH] Points [/TH]

etc. But, like Paul sez, someone with Nutscrape may not see the columns centered as this will onlyh work in IE browsers.
20J
      ID: 2908318
      Thu, Feb 03, 13:49
yeah, I use netscape too. I wonder why they do stuff like that???? Oh well. So, basically, my only option is to put the [align="center"] by every cell I want centered, huh?

Thanks for all your help everyone!
21Harkonnon
      ID: 40048295
      Thu, Feb 03, 13:56
J
If Netscape does not do the job for you

try the Neoplanet browser which is basically a skin for IE or Netscape with some additional features ! Don't know if that helps, but maybe worth a try before you type yourself silly.

btw it's free and you can download cool hockey outfits for that.

go here
www.neoplanet.com

22walk
      ID: 13051316
      Thu, Feb 03, 14:07
What is this crap, tables?!? I see a thread called "more html lessons," I'm expecting, now that I've been conditioned, some more neat animation. Hello? Your PC-challenged audience is waiting!

:-)
walk
23Calgary SuperFreak
      ID: 4083111
      Thu, Feb 03, 14:36
I tested this in ie 5 and netscape 4.07 and it looks okay:

[TD COLSPAN="8" WIDTH="54" ALIGN="left" HEIGHT="33" VALIGN="middle"]
[P ALIGN="left"][B]GR[/B]
[TH ALIGN="left" WIDTH="124" HEIGHT="33" VALIGN="middle"]
[B] Name[/B]
[TH ALIGN="left" WIDTH="78" HEIGHT="33" VALIGN="middle"][B]Points[/B]


"Add the remaining Column Headings Here****"

[/TD][/TR]

24walk
      ID: 13051316
      Thu, Feb 03, 14:55
Now THAT'S what I'm talking about...well, not exactly.

- walk
25Calgary SuperFreak
      ID: 4083111
      Thu, Feb 03, 15:23


modano, modANO, MODANO, MODano, modano


26Harkonnon
      ID: 40048295
      Thu, Feb 03, 15:28
woohoo

a settlers fan

tell me more CSF
27walk
      ID: 13051316
      Thu, Feb 03, 15:32
Now THAT'S what I'm talkin' about, REALLY!

- walk
28Richard
      ID: 400372821
      Thu, Feb 03, 19:49
Walk, not quite aninmation but, it seems like I've hitched my team to the


and the


I hope they don't disappoint me!

Richard
29Code Cracker
      ID: 5002298
      Thu, Feb 03, 21:42
Everybody needs one of these
30Harkonnon
      ID: 40048295
      Fri, Feb 04, 06:03
How about that sports nuts !!!!


31walk
      ID: 13051316
      Fri, Feb 04, 07:51
And the crowd goes "oooo" over that last one, Hark. Nice Belfourian shutout of those coyotes, too, last night. I had Eddie on my #1 team, too!

- walk
32Harkonnon
      ID: 40048295
      Fri, Feb 04, 09:35
Question to the code crackin' philliphanatic-ian and whatever studs in the html profession.

What king of grafx format can I/we post ?
Just *.gif or anything else ? Have some nice *.jpg's !

And what size can /should they have ?

33Richard
      ID: 400372821
      Fri, Feb 04, 09:45
Hark - I know you can post both gifs and jpegs. If you keep them small enough the load time will be quick. I don't think that space on Guru's server is a problem because the images we put here are being stored on their original site and aren't copied to the message board server. I'm sure that if you post something too big, we will let you know.

Richard
34Harkonnon
      ID: 40048295
      Fri, Feb 04, 10:19
Thanks Richard !

I have killed a thread before and now I prefer to know what I do before others have to tell me I stink !!!

35Mario LeMoose
      ID: 36116414
      Fri, Feb 04, 14:16
You can always experiment first on the Test Board.
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