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Subject: This Year's Sleepers/Cheapies Posted by: Jehu - [434511020] Wed, Sep 06, 19:26 Wow, when i logged in and checked out the prices for the first time today, i noticed that all the players are so damn expensive!! so i thought i'd just start this year's thread for the sleepers of the NHL. I'll start with one of my own: Milan Kraft I got info on him from Rotonews. He plays for the Pens and he could possibly play on the big front line with Jagr. He could be another Keith Jones type player who just gets a ton of points because he's playing with all-stars. Don't get me wrong though, he's supposed to be a real good prospect, a good rookie of the year candidate. | ||||||
| 1 | simbot ID: 37729921 Wed, Sep 06, 20:38 | Too bad SW doesn't have him listed. | |||||
| 2 | Ronald Reagan ID: 24713228 Thu, Sep 07, 08:03 | Eric Lindros looks like a sleeper. In fact, he's probably been sleeping since Stevens tagged him in the playoffs. A little pricey at $8.32M though. ;-) | |||||
| 3 | Jabrony ID: 43828715 Thu, Sep 07, 15:28 | Check out Martin Skoula from Colorado @ 1.57M, He should see some PP time since Ozolinsh is gone, and Jere Lehtinen looks to be a bargain @ 3.22M, he lost alot of time due to injury last season and if he's 100 percent he should see some real quality icetime again this season | |||||
| 4 | Jehu ID: 434511020 Thu, Sep 07, 15:35 | Daryl Sydor is cheap right now, but he may not start the season. He will be a good pickup maybe a little after the season starts and he comes back from his injury | |||||
| 5 | sychosport ID: 5082087 Fri, Sep 08, 07:50 | I like Jamie McLennan of the Wild. Only $3m for a starting goalie, and if he can play like Dunham did when Nashville started, there will be high profit potential. My 2 pence... | |||||
| 6 | izbiztuh ID: 114372119 Fri, Sep 08, 16:18 | I agree on the Skoula statement , nice price for what he should produce this coming season . | |||||
| 7 | simbot ID: 42854817 Fri, Sep 08, 17:54 | I like Todd Warriner who's on Tampa Bay. Since the trade from Toronto, he had been producing well towards the end of the season playing with Vincent Lecalvier and Mike Johnson. At 2.717 SWD, he could be a decent point producer at little cost. | |||||
| 8 | Sauce Down ID: 37582117 Fri, Sep 08, 21:51 | mclennan will get his points, but will take a hit from all the losses he's gonna get with a bad team. | |||||
| 9 | izbiztuh ID: 234251922 Sat, Sep 09, 07:43 | G-Jani Hurme for the sens , 1 mil , he might be the starter , I dont think they are sold on Lalime . | |||||
| 10 | Strike One ID: 37582117 Sat, Sep 09, 09:55 |
what about barasso? i thought he's the starting goalie for ottawa... i may be wrong through | |||||
| 11 | Jay-P ID: 24843814 Sat, Sep 09, 13:10 |
Whenever the Sedin's are IPO'd, they should be nice cheapies, because they will be given a lot of ice time in Vancouver. However, knowing SW, they will be priced too high for rookies, and won't be that much of a bargain. For a sleeper stud, look for Yashin to have a monsterous year, to make up for his decision to walk last year. He may be traded though, since Ottawa does need a good goalie since Barasso won't re-sign. Strike One: "It doesn't look like Barrasso, an unrestricted free agent, will return, so there will be major goaltending questions with journeyman Patrick Lalime as the possible starter." courtesy of ESPN.com | |||||
| 12 | Sauce Down ID: 37582117 Sat, Sep 09, 16:02 |
First off, is Dunham gonna be 100%? and also, with the signing of Burke who will be #1 in Phoenix till Khabi comes back? Esche or Burke(7 mil?????????)? | |||||
| 13 | Kariya009 ID: 8816918 Sat, Sep 09, 18:16 | What about Tocchet?? He's pretty cheap at about 3 million. | |||||
| 14 | Jay-P ID: 52651716 Mon, Sep 11, 18:04 |
I was just wondering if starting a day late would be the way to go? With most of the early money makers going to be rookies not yet IPO'd, you can wait a day, and pick them up if they're IPO'd immediately after the first roster freeze on the 4th. All you would be missing is the Colorado-Dallas game on the 4th, so it wouldn't be a huge point disadvantage. The only drawback is that the IPO's will probably happen on the Monday when new trades are doled out, on the 9th I believe. However, if it's just sacrificing a day to take a risk, I'd be willing to try it out. Another sleeper I see is Sandis Ozolinsch on Carolina at 4.95 million, much cheaper than what his price was last season. Although, Carolina has only 1 game the first week of the season. Speaking of schedules, the Dallas Stars start off nicely, with 4 games the first week | |||||
| 15 | Pokecheck ID: 28813121 Tue, Sep 12, 01:13 | ...and how about the Blues with 5 in 10. | |||||
| 16 | hoops boy ID: 96111914 Tue, Sep 12, 09:50 | the first day of the season there is only one game, avs at the stars, so if you stay away from those teams you might be able to pull off skipping the first day without penelty, of course the 4th is a wednesday, and i think trade come out on thursdays, so the first ipo date would be critical. also, if they ipo guys too much $$$ then you screwed trying to put together a team. | |||||
| 17 | Team AA ID: 478341218 Tue, Sep 12, 19:24 |
i don't think that ipo prices will be too bad. the problem is the daily price updates. *%&#$@*#& smallworld! if you go on a vacation... you're screwed. i wish they didn't do this! in terms of the blues and their 5 games- did you see how $$$ they all are? Jeeezz some good picks might be some of the Det wingers (ok $ but will they produce? watch the pre season) and my personal theory is don't spend a lot of $ on D to start, but there are a few really good D-men in the $3-3.5 range (yes cheaper too) | |||||
| 18 | Jay-P ID: 52651716 Tue, Sep 12, 23:43 |
From Smallworld: ATTENTION: Due to NHLPA regulations, SW is not allowed to have rookies in the fantasy hockey game until AFTER they have played their first game. I guess that invalid strategy is dead, now. I think that I'm going to load up on some St. Louis/Dallas players and deal them away after their early schedules and into the Sedin's, Kraft and possibly Depietro on the Islanders if he's named the #1 goalie. | |||||
| 19 | hoops boy ID: 96111914 Wed, Sep 13, 06:54 | your right, i hadnt caught that. that is going to make it a real pain to draft a squad, and i think you'll have to save trades to jump on the rookies, who should go up even more because no one will be able to pre-draft them... | |||||
| 20 | Tuques ID: 1844239 Wed, Sep 13, 07:06 |
I think hoops boy made a good point, we'll have to save trade so when the rookies got IPO, everyone will jump on him to make money, as money train in baseball and we don't have enough money to not considering the rookies.... I agree with Team AA, we shoudn't spend alot of money on defenseman at the begenning of the season, concentrate on a goalie and forward... I think we'll have to work really hard to find those cheaper/sleepers.... Tuques | |||||
| 21 | YANKS3PEAT ID: 275472213 Wed, Sep 13, 16:01 | Mike york and scotty gomez are looking good at centers for a mediocre price. Gomez is over priced however along with alex tanguay and many others. | |||||
| 22 | Frogger ID: 428491419 Thu, Sep 14, 20:13 | Let's not forget Brendan Morrow on the Stars, he's a bit highly priced (4.346 mil) but plays a lot of games during the opening week and really impressed people during the playoffs last year. | |||||
| 23 | Tri Lamb ID: 48151512 Fri, Sep 15, 14:32 |
sychosport and Sauce Down - I like McLennan too, but I thought Manny Fernandez was going to be the man in Minnesota. Are they splitting time evenly? | |||||
| 24 | The Beezer ID: 5082087 Sat, Sep 16, 07:34 | With Richter out for the start of the season, I like Kirk McLean for $3.5m. Possibly hold him until DiPetrio plays and is an IPO? | |||||
| 25 | Strike One ID: 496441210 Sat, Sep 16, 09:59 | i like mclean too, but he only has one game in the first week, and 4 in the 2 weeks. | |||||
| 26 | Jay ID: 228541219 Sat, Sep 16, 22:26 |
does anyone know who's has the honor of centering for Selanne and Kariya in Anaheim??? I think there's a three way battle between Rucchin, Cullen (I think that's his name), and Titov. I read somewhere that if Rucchin wins his old job back them Titov will get to play with the 2nd line. I'm thinking of buying Titov, so I really hope that he wins out against the others. At goalie, check out Pit's goalie ( I dunno how to spell his name, so I won't even try). Their first 2 games are against Nashville. Do I really need to say more ? | |||||
| 27 | Jay ID: 228541219 Sat, Sep 16, 22:32 | Oh, the goalie's name is J. Aubin. I could've sworn his name was a little more sophisticated to pronounce or spell. I guess I was wrong | |||||
| 28 | Frogger ID: 428491419 Sun, Sep 17, 04:35 |
I can't find info on this anywhere, so do you guys know if Aubin is even signed yet? Last I heard he wasn't yet. And another guy that I'm wondering about. What's up with Byron Dafoe? Any word would be appreciated. Ribbit!! | |||||
| 29 | philflyboy ID: 2844635 Sun, Sep 17, 06:05 |
Frogger according to rotonews Byron Dafoe Sep. 15 Dafoe is still recovering from knee surgery and will miss Friday's exhibition game, the Boston Herald reports. Follow up on his progress before you consider investing in what could be damaged goods. Aubin is unsigned but made significant strides in trying to sign a 1 year deal with the Pens. (also according to rotonews | |||||
| 30 | izbiztuh ID: 234251922 Sun, Sep 17, 11:09 | Dipietro pulled his groin , out 15 days . I think the isles wanted him to play at least 3 -4 exhb. games and then use that as a barometer as to whether they'll keep him in the big leagues or not for this season . looks like the minors for ''the rick '' , at least for the first part of the season anyways . | |||||
| 31 | Phish420 ID: 548511714 Sun, Sep 17, 14:52 |
A nice bargain is Center Jason Krog @ $0.750 SWD plays for the Isles, and should see nice time and production. He's a Hobie Baker award winner with nice scoring touch and speed. I also think that Pavel Brendl, when IPO'd by Smallworld, will make a big splash for the NY Rangers and managers wallets. | |||||
| 32 | izbiztuh ID: 114372119 Sun, Sep 17, 16:04 | Krog wont make the team . | |||||
| 33 | Mujeriego ID: 118251815 Mon, Sep 18, 15:25 |
I don't know their prices, but here are a couple of guys to keep an eye on for either Smallworld Bargains or deep Roto sleepers: Jiri Fischer - defenseman for Wings. Starting out as the 5th defenseman, but has been a stud so far. Bulked up, has huge offensive talent. Injury to one of the Top 4 defenseman could give him the opportunity for a big year ... or he could work his way into the mix anyways. Mathieu Dandaneult - speedy youngster has been practicing with Shanahan and Yzerman quite a bit. Bowman loves to mix up the lines a bunch (Bad for him) but get this ... in many leagues he may qualify as a defenseman, because Bowman has used him there from time to time. He could produce 40-50 points, which is a goldmine for the position. Your fellow leaguers will kill you if you snag him on defense. Brendan Morrison - this guy isn't the biggest player, but the he has bigtime skills. Former Hobie Baker winner was listed as competing with Patrick Elias for a spot one the 2nd/3rd line at the beginning of last year, for what its worth. He also attended the illustrious University of Michigan, making him extra-cool. Boyd Deverioux - probably worth a look as well, but I don't really know a lot about him. He is unofficially slated to take over for Igor Larionov as the 3rd line center, and was a former 1st round pick. He seems like the type of player that could florish when surrounded by the talented Red Wing corps. | |||||
| 34 | Strike One ID: 496441210 Wed, Sep 20, 18:45 | what about nik antropov? he played well last year when he came up. he's listed at 3.620 M which might soud a little high but i think he'll put up some pretty nice points. | |||||
| 35 | Jehu ID: 434511020 Sat, Sep 23, 08:12 |
Tommy Albelin is looking real good in the preaseason for calgary. He had an impressive 4 point night yesterday against Toronto. Hopefully, he will get the same amount power play time in the regular season as well. Oleg Saprykin, a defenseman also on Calgary, has been having a good preaseason as well. Some people think he has a shot at the Calder, but he isn't absolutely assured a spot on the team just yet. | |||||
| 36 | KrazyKoalaBears ID: 30671612 Sat, Sep 23, 17:18 | J, the name is Jean Sebastian Aubin. It always sounds pretty cool when the announcers call his full name and not just "Aubin". | |||||
| 37 | Mujeriego ID: 528112513 Mon, Sep 25, 13:11 | Tommy Albelin is on ICQ - there was an article on him in Slam! Sports last season. I chatted with him a few times, he was a really pleasant guy. I might draft him this year, if only for that reason. | |||||
| 38 | Jehu ID: 434511020 Mon, Sep 25, 19:26 |
Hey Muj, can u send me his contact? my icq # is: 24656472 maybe i can give him a pep talk during the season if he's slumping :-) | |||||
| 39 | Code Cracker ID: 8446221 Mon, Sep 25, 20:19 |
These two players are not IPO'ed yet but may deserve some consideration when they are; Roman Simichek I have heard that he may be centering the Jagr/Hrdina line so enough said! Jan Caloun He is quite a scorer and will be playing wing with Minnesota. Check him out. | |||||
| 40 | Code Cracker ID: 8446221 Mon, Sep 25, 20:20 | I just realized I spelled Simicek's name wrong...doh | |||||
| 41 | Peter Schweikert ID: 52602618 Mon, Sep 25, 23:15 | Antti Aalto will center Kariya/Selanne until Ruchin comes back. Anyone know anything about him? I've never heard of him. | |||||
| 42 | MajikMan66 ID: 56819210 Mon, Sep 25, 23:45 | Are you certain of this? I picked him up b/c he was the best I could do and thought he would be a second line guy. Get him if this is the case! | |||||
| 43 | Code Cracker ID: 14418510 Tue, Sep 26, 07:18 | Titov may center the Anaheim first line if Aalto doesn't. Also, Cullen has an outside chance at it. | |||||
| 44 | Frank p ID: 53815267 Tue, Sep 26, 07:26 | C/C, go to ICQ please!! if that's ok? | |||||
| 45 | Code Cracker ID: 14418510 Tue, Sep 26, 07:37 | Frank p, can't, I'm at work. email me if you want. | |||||
| 46 | Wiz Man ID: 28446416 Wed, Sep 27, 21:20 |
For your information, Jean Sebastion Aubin has been signed by the Pens for a one year contract worth $700,000. I guess the Pens front office won this battle as he wanted $1.2 million. However, a word of caution, he's only getting one week of training camp, and although he most likely will start immediatly since the Pens got no other good goalies (with Tugnutt gone now), he may be a bit rusty. I don't think that should dissuade you though, its not me, because he's pretty good, and at only at 6.950 M, he's pretty cheap for a starter | |||||
| 47 | Peter Schweikert ID: 52602618 Wed, Sep 27, 22:34 |
He looked good tonight, albiet against Columbus. Jagr probably would have looked pretty good in goal against the likes of them. | |||||
| 48 | Jehu ID: 434511020 Sun, Oct 01, 07:08 | Has anyone considered Kirk McLean? Richter is out for the first two weeks of the season and he could be a pretty good short-term pickup if you're looking to put some more $ into your wings or centers. | |||||
| 49 | Code Cracker ID: 8446221 Sun, Oct 01, 08:30 | Could be but the Rangers only play 4 games during the first 2 weeks of the season. | |||||
| 50 | johnny canuck ID: 33959210 Mon, Oct 02, 10:59 | I see Dandaneult mentioned as a sleeper here. Some may have noticed that even Smallworld lists him at D. Sounds like this might make him a great sleeper. He'll get the offensive numbers on your Smallworld blueline. Anyone else see this as a positive? | |||||
| 51 | Tuques ID: 31837207 Mon, Oct 02, 11:45 |
I was thinking of Dandenault before but if you look at his pts during the pre-season game you'll see he didn't do much!!!! Tuques | |||||
| 52 | blue hen ID: 34937217 Wed, Oct 04, 11:18 | Saprykin made the team... | |||||
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