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Subject: Composite picks for RIHC & 3 QLs
Posted by: Guru
- [330592710] Thu, Oct 27, 2005, 14:31
I took advantage of the common format for draft results for the RIHC leagues using the Kafenatid draft software with public results. These were the RIHC, AAA, AA1 and AA2 leagues.
Players are listed in order of average pick. The table also shows the number of times each was picked, and the min and max pick (1.01 means round 1, pick 1).
Name Picks Min Max Avg
Kevin Garnett 4 1.01 1.02 1.01
Lebron James 4 1.01 1.02 1.01
Dirk Nowitzki 4 1.03 1.05 1.03
Shawn Marion 4 1.04 1.05 1.04
Kobe Bryant 4 1.05 1.07 1.06
Tracy Mcgrady 4 1.04 1.08 1.06
Andrei Kirilenko 4 1.06 1.10 1.07
Tim Duncan 4 1.07 1.09 1.08
Allen Iverson 4 1.09 2.03 1.11
Vince Carter 4 1.08 2.02 1.11
Dwyane Wade 4 1.09 2.06 1.12
Brad Miller 4 2.01 2.02 2.01
Gilbert Arenas 4 1.11 2.05 2.01
Jason Kidd 4 1.12 2.07 2.02
Yao Ming 4 1.12 2.06 2.03
Steve Nash 4 1.11 2.08 2.04
Elton Brand 4 2.03 2.09 2.06
Paul Pierce 4 2.06 2.08 2.07
Jermaine O'neal 4 2.04 3.06 2.09
Mike Bibby 4 2.08 3.01 2.09
Ray Allen 4 2.05 3.02 2.10
Stephon Marbury 4 2.09 3.03 2.11
Peja Stojakovic 4 2.07 3.05 2.12
Baron Davis 4 2.11 3.10 3.01
Ron Artest 4 2.04 3.07 3.01
Steve Francis 4 2.10 3.04 3.01
Chris Bosh 4 2.12 3.09 3.03
Shaquille O'neal 4 2.01 4.05 3.03
Emeka Okafor 4 2.12 3.10 3.04
Ben Wallace 4 2.11 3.12 3.06
Dwight Howard 4 3.06 4.02 3.08
Zydrunas Ilgauskas 4 3.03 4.03 3.08
Larry Hughes 4 3.06 3.12 3.09
Rashard Lewis 4 3.08 3.11 3.09
Joe Johnson 4 3.02 4.07 4.01
Lamar Odom 4 4.01 4.01 4.01
Pau Gasol 4 3.09 4.06 4.01
Richard Jefferson 4 3.07 4.11 4.02
Chauncey Billups 4 3.09 4.07 4.03
Carmelo Anthony 4 4.03 4.08 4.04
Marcus Camby 4 3.11 5.03 4.04
Manu Ginobili 4 4.04 4.12 4.07
Jason Richardson 4 4.06 4.10 4.08
Kirk Hinrich 4 4.06 5.01 4.09
Rasheed Wallace 4 3.11 5.04 4.09
Corey Maggette 4 4.10 4.12 4.11
Michael Redd 4 4.08 5.05 4.11
Andre Miller 4 3.12 5.07 4.12
Jason Terry 4 4.06 5.12 4.12
Andre Iguodala 4 5.02 5.08 5.04
Zach Randolph 4 4.09 5.11 5.04
Shareef Abdur-rahim 4 5.03 5.11 5.07
Carlos Boozer 4 5.05 6.01 5.08
Kurt Thomas 4 4.09 6.05 5.09
Kyle Korver 4 5.05 6.05 5.10
Tyson Chandler 4 4.07 7.03 5.10
Tayshaun Prince 4 5.01 7.03 6.01
Samuel Dalembert 4 5.03 7.02 6.02
Chris Webber 4 5.04 7.02 6.03
Jamaal Magloire 4 5.06 7.01 6.03
Antawn Jamison 4 5.09 7.04 6.04
Josh Smith 4 5.01 6.11 6.04
Mehmet Okur 4 5.10 7.01 6.04
Stephen Jackson 4 5.09 7.12 6.04
Damon Stoudamire 4 6.01 7.08 6.09
Grant Hill 4 5.04 8.02 6.11
Joel Przybilla 4 5.06 9.08 6.11
Josh Howard 4 6.02 8.01 6.12
Rafer Alston 4 6.06 7.10 6.12
Chris Paul 4 5.12 8.02 7.01
Richard Hamilton 4 5.11 8.03 7.01
Cuttino Mobley 4 6.04 7.11 7.02
Ben Gordon 4 4.11 8.03 7.03
Amare Stoudemire 4 1.03 13.09 7.04
Raef Lafrentz 4 5.09 8.06 7.04
Tony Parker 4 6.03 8.10 7.05
Luke Ridnour 4 6.07 8.05 7.06
Donyell Marshall 4 6.12 8.07 7.08
Stromile Swift 4 5.07 10.02 7.09
Andrew Bogut 4 6.10 8.08 7.10
Marko Jaric 4 6.04 10.03 7.10
Troy Murphy 4 7.03 8.06 7.10
Jason Williams 4 6.07 9.12 7.11
Jamal Crawford 4 7.03 9.04 7.12
Kenyon Martin 4 6.08 8.12 7.12
Wally Szczerbiak 4 6.02 10.06 8.01
Bobby Simmons 4 7.06 9.01 8.02
Caron Butler 4 7.01 10.07 8.04
Jalen Rose 4 7.08 9.05 8.05
Jamaal Tinsley 4 7.05 9.07 8.05
Sam Cassell 4 7.09 9.05 8.05
Al Jefferson 4 7.06 9.09 8.07
Drew Gooden 4 7.04 9.07 8.07
Al Harrington 4 6.10 10.05 8.10
Josh Childress 4 7.10 10.01 9.01
Ricky Davis 4 7.10 10.05 9.02
Antoine Walker 4 5.10 11.03 9.03
Darius Miles 4 6.07 12.07 9.03
Eddie Jones 4 8.08 9.12 9.03
Udonis Haslem 4 8.10 10.02 9.04
Deron Williams 4 7.07 11.09 9.07
Eddy Curry 4 7.08 10.11 9.07
Mike James 4 8.10 10.08 9.07
P.j. Brown 4 7.07 10.11 9.07
Gerald Wallace 4 8.11 10.09 9.08
Erick Dampier 4 7.06 12.06 9.11
Nenad Krstic 4 8.07 11.02 9.11
T.J. Ford 4 9.01 10.07 9.11
Morris Peterson 4 9.03 10.08 9.12
Quentin Richardson 4 9.06 10.06 9.12
Sebastian Telfair 4 8.07 12.04 10.02
Brevin Knight 4 7.04 12.08 10.03
Damon Jones 4 8.09 11.11 10.03
Mike Dunleavy 4 9.06 11.03 10.03
Chris Mihm 4 9.02 11.05 10.04
Kwame Brown 4 9.09 10.12 10.04
Mike Miller 4 9.01 11.02 10.04
Primoz Brezec 4 8.08 12.05 10.04
Zaza Pachulia 4 8.11 11.12 10.04
Bonzi Wells 4 9.09 11.11 10.07
Marquis Daniels 4 9.03 12.03 10.08
Brendan Haywood 4 10.01 11.07 10.10
Brian Grant 1 10.10 10.10 10.10
Mike Sweetney 4 9.01 13.12 11.01
Michael Finley 4 9.09 13.03 11.02
Chris Kaman 4 10.02 12.12 11.04
Raymond Felton 4 10.12 11.12 11.04
James Jones 4 8.04 14.11 11.07
Eddie Griffin 4 10.11 13.01 11.09
Raja Bell 4 10.10 13.06 11.10
Luol Deng 4 11.09 12.11 11.12
Lorenzen Wright 4 11.05 13.05 12.01
Shaun Livingston 4 11.08 13.05 12.01
Ike Diogu 4 12.02 12.03 12.02
Nazr Mohammed 4 9.03 14.10 12.02
Shane Battier 4 9.11 14.08 12.04
Vladimir Radmanovic 4 12.01 12.09 12.04
Charlie Villanueva 3 10.04 13.10 12.05
J.r. Smith 4 12.01 13.04 12.05
Kenny Thomas 4 11.12 12.12 12.05
Devin Harris 1 12.06 12.06 12.06
Deshawn Stevenson 3 11.02 14.09 12.07
Sarunas Jasikevicius 4 11.11 13.09 12.09
Marvin Williams 4 12.05 13.11 12.10
Rasual Butler 1 12.11 12.11 12.10
Matt Harpring 4 11.10 13.12 12.12
Bobby Jackson 1 13.02 13.02 13.01
Chris Wilcox 1 13.02 13.02 13.01
Jim Jackson 4 12.03 14.02 13.01
Mark Blount 4 10.12 15.11 13.01
Doug Christie 4 11.06 14.08 13.02
Kelvin Cato 4 11.04 15.03 13.02
Keyon Dooling 1 13.03 13.03 13.02
Desmond Mason 4 11.10 14.07 13.03
Hedo Turkoglu 4 12.06 14.05 13.04
Danny Granger 4 12.10 14.01 13.05
Marc Jackson 4 12.09 14.10 13.05
Chris Duhon 2 12.07 14.06 13.06
John Salmons 1 13.06 13.06 13.06
Rashad Mccants 4 12.12 14.07 13.07
Jared Jeffries 1 13.08 13.08 13.08
David Wesley 2 12.10 14.09 13.09
Antonio Daniels 4 13.04 14.05 13.11
James Posey 3 13.03 14.04 13.11
Martell Webster 4 11.01 15.04 13.11
Jameer Nelson 4 12.06 15.11 13.12
Voshon Lenard 4 13.06 14.09 13.12
Arvydas Macijauskas 1 14.02 14.02 14.01
Mickael Pietrus 1 14.02 14.02 14.01
Maurice Williams 3 11.08 15.07 14.02
Nick Collison 4 12.12 14.10 14.02
Dan Gadzuric 4 12.11 15.02 14.04
Delonte West 3 13.07 15.08 14.04
Gary Payton 3 13.05 15.06 14.04
Juan Dixon 4 11.02 15.10 14.04
Nene Hilario 4 13.08 14.12 14.04
Channing Frye 2 13.04 15.06 14.05
Lee Nailon 2 13.05 15.05 14.05
Theo Ratliff 4 12.09 15.12 14.05
Antonio Davis 1 14.06 14.06 14.06
Troy Hudson 1 14.06 14.06 14.06
Joe Smith 3 13.10 15.04 14.07
Earl Boykins 2 14.05 14.12 14.08
Nate Robinson 4 14.01 15.02 14.08
David Lee 2 14.10 14.11 14.10
Joey Graham 1 14.11 14.11 14.10
Keith Van Horn 2 14.06 15.03 14.10
Adonal Foyle 4 13.12 15.06 14.11
Boris Diaw 1 15.02 15.02 15.01
Derek Fisher 1 15.01 15.01 15.01
Gordan Giricek 1 15.03 15.03 15.02
Michael Olowokandi 3 14.01 15.12 15.03
Trevor Ariza 3 14.04 15.11 15.03
Dan Dickau 1 15.04 15.04 15.04
Tyronn Lue 1 15.04 15.04 15.04
Kareem Rush 2 15.02 15.10 15.05
Malik Rose 1 15.05 15.05 15.05
Chucky Atkins 2 15.07 15.08 15.07
Jarvis Hayes 1 15.07 15.07 15.07
Jerry Stackhouse 1 15.07 15.07 15.07
Chris Andersen 1 15.09 15.09 15.08
Darko Milicic 2 15.06 15.12 15.08
Jeff Foster 2 15.08 15.09 15.08
Smush Parker 2 15.09 15.10 15.09
Austin Croshere 1 15.11 15.11 15.10
Bob Sura 1 15.10 15.10 15.10
Trenton Hassell 1 15.12 15.12 15.11
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| 1 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Oct 27, 2005, 14:40
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Other than Amare, here are the players with the largest disparity in pick sequence, grouped by approximate gap in rounds. In each case, someone either took them too early, or else someone got a consensus bargain.
Five rounds or more (from earliest to latest pick)
James Jones
Darius Miles
Antoine Walker
Nazr Mohammed
Brevin Knight
Erick Dampier
4 rounds
Mark Blount
Shane Battier
Stromile Swift
Mike Sweetney
Juan Dixon
Wally Szczerbiak
Martell Webster
Joel Przybilla
Deron Williams
3 rounds
Kelvin Cato
Maurice Williams
Marko Jaric
Primoz Brezec
Sebastian Telfair
Al Harrington
Michael Finley
Ben Gordon
Deshawn Stevenson
Caron Butler
Charlie Villanueva
Jason Williams
Jameer Nelson
P.j. Brown
Eddy Curry
Theo Ratliff
Damon Jones
Doug Christie
Zaza Pachulia
Marquis Daniels
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| 2 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Oct 27, 2005, 15:16
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Other curiosities:
161 players were taken in every one of the four drafts. Since each league picked 180 players, only 19 spots in each draft were non-consensus picks.
9 players were taken in exactly 3 leagues.
12 players were taken in exactly 2 leagues.
25 players were taken in exactly 1 league.
In total, 207 different players were drafted at least once.
Lamar Odom was selected at exactly pick 4.01 in all 4 leagues.
Other notably tight dispersions for players taken after round 1 in all 4 leagues:
Ike Diogu (12.02-12.03)
Paul Pierce (2.06-2.08)
Brad Miller (2.01-2.02)
Corey Maggette (4.10-4.12)
Rashard Lewis (3.08-3.11)
Jason Richardson (4.06-4.10)
Carmelo Anthony (4.03-4.08)
The lowest ranked player to be taken in all four leagues was Adonal Foyle (13.12-15.06)
The earliest picked player to be taken in only one league was Brian Grant, who was taken at pick 10.10 in AA2.
The highest ranked player to be omitted from one league was Charlie Villanueva, who was an average 12th rounder in 3 leagues (10.04-13.10), but not taken in AA1.
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| 3 | RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Thu, Oct 27, 2005, 15:58
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Could you post the players and the respective draft positions for each league?
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| 4 | Pacers Rule
ID: 31261810
Thu, Oct 27, 2005, 16:05
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Good Stuff, Guru. This makes my 'best pick' and 'worst pick' a lot easier on the draft recap.
I guess I should have paid attention to the other RIHC drafts to have a clue that Odom had a good chance not to make it back to me at 4.02. Then someone else would be worrying about Camby's feet right now (and back, and knees, and elbows, and little pinkies).
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| 5 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Oct 27, 2005, 16:09
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You can see the individual league drafts here
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| 6 | Frick@Work
Donor
ID: 3410101718
Thu, Oct 27, 2005, 16:25
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Well since 5 or 6 of the players I drafted were the minimum, I don't take that as good sign. But none of them were more than 3 rounds early. I think Artest is going to be a good pick at 2.04, but can see that he wouldn't have made it back to me at 3.09.
Villanueva was picked up in AA#1 prior to this being posted. And the manager who picked Martell Webster 4 rounds early just dropped him.
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| 7 | Chas_Man
Leader
ID: 391028819
Sat, Oct 29, 2005, 08:54
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Thanks GURU!
That makes my draft look a lot better :)
Other than a reach for Camby whom I knew wouldn't make it back to me at 5-11. All my other picks were better value then the consenses picks. I don't know if it was just me, but the end of the draft this year was more difficult to be at then normal. The majority of my targeted picks were in that 15-55 area. I thought I reached a little but overall I thought I did alright. Now if only I didn't have two injured non eligible IR players with a couple of others on the fringe :)
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| 8 | xpdurmind
Sustainer
ID: 319471922
Sat, Oct 29, 2005, 19:57
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From the link in post 5, can you guys see AA #3 or is it just me since I'm a member?
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| 9 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Oct 29, 2005, 20:05
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Just you. When you set up a new draft, you have to specify whether it should be viewable by the public, and yours must not have been.
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| 10 | xpdurmind
Sustainer
ID: 319471922
Sat, Oct 29, 2005, 22:11
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Thanks Guru.
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| 11 | Pacers Rule
Donor
ID: 910311210
Sun, Oct 30, 2005, 20:55
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Interesting that when I view this page in IE, the formatting is nice in the title post. However, when viewing in mozilla firefox, the columns are out of line, the table has a different font, and generally the table is less readable. Anyone know what's up with that/how to fix mozilla?
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