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Subject: RIHC Injury Slot (IS) Designations
Posted by: Guru
- [330592710] Tue, Oct 23, 2007, 16:33
This is the third year we will be using the Injury Slot for the RIHC league, and I believe that some - maybe all - of the QLs are using that rule as well.
Here is the current wording of the RIHC rules:Three bench slots are available to hold any player. Two additional bench slots will be enabled, but are restricted as “injury slots”, hereafter abbreviated as “IS”.
An NBA player shall be eligible to fill an IS if he is listed in any “informed” source as being injured more seriously than “day-to-day”. Examples of acceptable information sources include (but are not limited to): RotoWire RotoWorld RotoTimes ESPN NBA.com Newspaper stories (citing facts, not speculation).
Once a player appears in an NBA game, he is no longer eligible to fill an IS, even if a published source fails to remove his listing. When a player is no longer IS eligible, the team shall have a limited amount of time to remove that player from the IS, as defined below.
If a manager wishes to move a player into an IS but cannot find a confirming source, he may request that the Commissioner approve the designation. The Commissioner shall use his best judgment in making such a determination.
If any manager believes that another team has improperly moved a player into an IS, he may file a protest with the Commissioner. If any manager disagrees with a Commissioner ruling, he may request a league vote. Six votes shall be required to overturn any Commissioner ruling related to an IS.
Each Wednesday, the Commissioner shall review all rosters to assure that any filled injury slots are appropriate. In the event that an IS is improperly filled, the Commissioner will notify the manager of the violation via the email link at the Yahoo site. The notified manager will have 48 hours to correct the roster or to provide a satisfactory explanation. If a breach remains uncorrected 48 hours after notice, the Commissioner shall have the authority to drop a bench player in order to bring the roster into conformance. The player dropped will be based upon the Commissioner’s judgment as to the best interests of the impacted team.
The Commissioner shall have the latitude to extend the time for curing a breach if he knows that the manager is unreachable and/or unavailable to make the adjustment.
No player which is in an IS slot may be placed in a starting slot on any day unless the bench has been cleared of that injury slot, or unless another player is eligible to replace that player in the vacated IS. In the event of a violation, the Commissioner may elect to void any stats generated by improperly activated player.
As before, no player may be picked up as a free agent and immediately placed in an IS. Free agent additions are only IS eligible 10 days after pickup, unless the player has appeared in an NBA game after the pickup and the IS eligibility occurred thereafter. In the past, we have successfully used the "honor system" in the RIHC, putting the onus on each manager to exercise his (or her) own judgment. The Commish was occasionally called upon to opine. For the most part, I think self policing worked pretty well.
It's been suggested that some sort of central clearinghouse for IS-eligible players would be useful. I do not want to be in the position of having to determine this - but I am proposing a means by which this might work. Here's the proposal:
- Whenever a manager in any RIHC-related league decides to declare a player injured and eligible for an IS slot, they must first check the IS thread to see whether that player has already been declared as IS-eligible.
- If that player has not yet been listed, then that manager must post a message declaring the player's status, and providing justification, with a link to a confirming source, if possible.
- At that time, any member of any league may post a challenge to that declaration if they wish. If more than one challenge is submitted, then the RIHC Commissioners will post a decision.
- If an IS declaration has been made for a player and has not been challenged, then any other manager with that player may accord that player IS status as well, without needing to post. In other words, only one (the first) manager needs to post that declaration.
- When a player returns to action and is no longer eligible, anyone (the original manager, a Commish, or any other manager) should post a note to that effect.
In effect, the IS thread becomes a jointly administered central clearinghouse for injury status.
Commissioners will still need to perform a weekly review of their respective leagues to monitor compliance.
Does this sound like a workable plan? Are all three of the QLs using the Injury Slot rule this season?
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51 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Wed, Nov 28, 2007, 22:45
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Yes.
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52 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Wed, Dec 05, 2007, 08:17
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Martin's strained right groin will keep him out four to six weeks. Sacramento Bee
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53 | blackjackis21 Dude
ID: 034837521 Sat, Dec 08, 2007, 23:43
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Larry Hughes is back - I'll be dropping someone.
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54 | Mike D Leader
ID: 041831612 Mon, Dec 10, 2007, 22:01
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Williams, who missed Sunday's victory over the Clippers because of an ankle injury, is expected to miss at least a couple more games this week, the Associated Press reports.
Tonight is his second miss, with apparently some more coming. I'm adding a player at this point.
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55 | Mark L Leader
ID: 03601149 Tue, Dec 11, 2007, 08:52
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Ridnour is back, so I will drop someone.
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56 | xpdurmind
ID: 2410323020 Tue, Dec 11, 2007, 22:13
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Aldridge to miss at least 5 games( he plays 5 games in the next week) link
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57 | Urmas
ID: 44411285 Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 08:37
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T.J. Ford out at least a week. That is 3 games or more.
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58 | tommyd
ID: 326243012 Mon, Dec 17, 2007, 21:51
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What to do with Gasol?
Can I put him on IS or do I have to wait 4 games? They don't give a time frame for his return.
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59 | Urmas
ID: 44411285 Tue, Dec 18, 2007, 02:34
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The note at Gasol's official site. This, just like Yahoo's take, says in rather uncertain terms that Pau could miss up to a week.
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60 | Tequila
ID: 47111456 Fri, Dec 21, 2007, 14:28
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What about okur ? it looks like he's just day to day but he has been ruled out for tonight and probably will miss saturday's game (rotoworld) making seven straight games without playing.
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61 | Pacers Rule
ID: 381113288 Fri, Dec 28, 2007, 09:16
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Brent Barry is out 2 weeks with a torn calf. Devastating news for my team.
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62 | Mike D Leader
ID: 041831612 Sun, Dec 30, 2007, 11:22
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Guess I'll "IS" Williams. Missed 3 games already, and now this from Rotoworld/Miami Herald:
Heat coach Pat Riley said Saturday he had no indication when Jason Williams, Chris Quinn or Shaquille O'Neal would be healthy enough to return.
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63 | Slowhand SuperDude
ID: 056744223 Tue, Jan 01, 2008, 22:31
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Can I get a ruling on Tmac...although listed as day-to-day Yahoo cites 2 sources that says he may be out for up to 3 weeks. link
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64 | WonderB
ID: 419161513 Wed, Jan 02, 2008, 08:14
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i don't object.
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65 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Wed, Jan 02, 2008, 08:59
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[63] - This is supposed to be largely self-administered. The process is for you to "declare" your intention to put TMac on IR, stating your justification. If someone objects, they can challenge. At that point, a "ruling" will be determined - but not until that need presents itself. (i.e., "rulings" are not issued in advance.)
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66 | MikeV SuperDude
ID: 25924115 Wed, Jan 02, 2008, 10:32
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Artest will be out indefinitely so I've IS'd him
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67 | deejay Sustainer
ID: 501182710 Thu, Jan 03, 2008, 06:17
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Wilcox and his day to day sprained knee bugs me. He already missed 2 games, on the bright side I can activate ADaniels. I assume Wilcox does not qualify (yet) for IL ?
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68 | Pacers Rule
ID: 46946127 Fri, Jan 04, 2008, 09:25
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DJ - post 65 may address your question.
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69 | deejay Sustainer
ID: 501182710 Fri, Jan 04, 2008, 10:10
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Thanks PR, missed that, but he played 5min last night, so it dont matter no more. Now if Kartin Martin wants to play soon then Im happy. :)
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70 | Mark L Leader
ID: 03601149 Thu, Jan 10, 2008, 07:20
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Shaq missed his seventh straight game last night; I replaced him with Reggie Evans in order to ensure continuity in FT%.
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71 | KnicksFan Sustainer
ID: 030815418 Thu, Jan 10, 2008, 10:53
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Grant Hill is out 2-3 weeks with an appendectomy.
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72 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Mon, Jan 14, 2008, 12:34
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With the pending return of Mike Bibby, I have dropped Mikki Moore to be compliant in advance.
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73 | Pacers Rule Sustainer
ID: 910311210 Mon, Jan 14, 2008, 21:18
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Bynum out min. 8 weeks. That hurts.
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74 | Urmas
ID: 44411285 Tue, Jan 15, 2008, 05:49
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Nene out indefinitely.
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75 | Dave R SuperDude
ID: 3010361110 Tue, Jan 15, 2008, 11:45
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I question Jason's p/u of Krstic. With only Foye I believe who qualifying for IR, isn't he over the player limit?
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76 | Mike D Leader
ID: 41831612 Tue, Jan 15, 2008, 11:56
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That's all I see as well.
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77 | Jason
ID: 381050268 Thu, Jan 17, 2008, 05:48
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I am surprised, that it is a question, beacuse Krstic hasn't played to much game this year, and has been not available to play for a long time. I have actually 15 active players and 2 who are injured. As far as I undestand it's not against the rules, but I will drop B. Wells immadiately.
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78 | Mike D Leader
ID: 041831612 Thu, Jan 17, 2008, 06:56
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To pick someone up, you have to be putting someone else in the IS slot. There are 2 slots. Foye occupied 1. No one else was "moved" into the other one.
I now see what you were doing though by "adding" an injured player. But you can't do that---unless you have an opening first.
In the top post of the thread, Guru hit on that:
"As before, no player may be picked up as a free agent and immediately placed in an IS. Free agent additions are only IS eligible 10 days after pickup, unless the player has appeared in an NBA game after the pickup and the IS eligibility occurred thereafter."
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79 | Jason
ID: 381050268 Thu, Jan 17, 2008, 09:07
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Ok. You are right! I droppped a player.
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80 | Jason
ID: 5086298 Sun, Jan 20, 2008, 17:54
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"O'Neal will miss at least two weeks with a bruised left knee, team officials said Saturday before Indiana played Sacramento."
I moved him to IS, and picked up J. Foster.
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81 | tothreeball Dude
ID: 09118139 Mon, Jan 28, 2008, 17:49
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Moved Devin Harris to IS
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82 | Farn Leader
ID: 451044109 Tue, Jan 29, 2008, 23:13
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Randy Foye has returned tonight. For anyone who has suffered all season with him on IR its time to make room on the active roster.
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83 | Jason
ID: 381050268 Wed, Jan 30, 2008, 03:31
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It's a good news for me! I dropped R. Brewer and I am waiting for strong performance from Foye.
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84 | Jason
ID: 381050268 Thu, Jan 31, 2008, 07:34
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I moved Krstic to IS.
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85 | Mike D Leader
ID: 041831612 Thu, Jan 31, 2008, 23:34
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Riley said Wednesday that Haslem will be out indefinitely with a high left ankle sprain, and will at least miss multiple games.
Miami Herald
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86 | WonderB Sustainer
ID: 241053812 Mon, Feb 04, 2008, 00:14
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Luol Deng is not likely to play again before Feb. 9 and will have an MRI on his injured left Achilles' tendon when the Bulls return to Chicago from their current six-game road trip.
"I think they're going to wait until we get back after the trip and take some more pictures and see what's what and move on from there," coach Jim Boylan said. Deng, who has missed six straight games, had been hoping to play at least a game or two on the road trip, but it now sounds unlikely that will happen. Source: Chicago Tribune
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87 | Mike D Leader
ID: 041831612 Fri, Feb 08, 2008, 21:08
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Kirk Hinrich's bruised ribs are not much better and he is doubtful for Saturday's game against Utah. He's already missed a couple of games as well.
Source: the Chicago Tribune
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88 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Mon, Feb 11, 2008, 17:36
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Jamaal Tinsley out until "at least" the All-Star break.
Source: Rotoworld
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89 | s R
ID: 54048267 Sun, Feb 17, 2008, 11:54
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James Jones will miss 3-5 weeks.
source: Rotoworld
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90 | Mark L Leader
ID: 03601149 Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 08:05
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Shaq and Deng return to active duty.
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91 | xpdurmind
ID: 2410323020 Tue, Feb 26, 2008, 01:05
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Butler has missed his 9th game in a row yet he's still listed as day to day. IS eligible or not?
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92 | Mike D Leader
ID: 041831612 Tue, Feb 26, 2008, 07:01
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Definitely.
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93 | Farn Leader
ID: 451044109 Tue, Feb 26, 2008, 14:11
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i moved Butler to the IR too. Who knows how long he will be out at this point
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94 | Addicted Dude
ID: 4611592518 Tue, Feb 26, 2008, 14:28
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Breaking... Yao out for the season with stress fracture!!
--Addicted--
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95 | xpd
ID: 2710372615 Tue, Feb 26, 2008, 18:08
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Great news if you also have butler. Moving Yao to IS also.
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96 | Urmas
ID: 44411285 Tue, Mar 11, 2008, 04:05
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Dwyane Wade shut down for the rest of the season.
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97 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Tue, Mar 25, 2008, 09:51
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An MRI has confirmed that Dirk Nowitzki suffered a moderate high ankle sprain and mild knee sprain on Sunday. The Mavericks press release stated that no timetable has been set for his return. RotoWorld
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98 | Pacers Rule
ID: 347172821 Tue, Mar 25, 2008, 23:22
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Jason Williams is out for a week with a hard cast on his thumb and may be out for the season.
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99 | Urmas
ID: 44411285 Fri, Mar 28, 2008, 03:49
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Pau Gasol out until next Wednesday (April 2nd).
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100 | Pacers Rule Sustainer
ID: 910311210 Tue, Apr 01, 2008, 22:03
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Kaman with a possible/likely season-ending ankle injury. The Clippers trainer says he is out indefinitely. The link insertion script is not working on my mozilla browser tonight, so here's the link if you want to check it manually:
http://clippers.freedomblogging.com/2008/04/01/kamans-season-done/
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