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Subject: 11/27 Zuperman - Action Thread
Posted by: deejay
- Sustainer [501182710] Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 19:31
Seems the wrong Cav is on fire :) |
| 1 | ole
ID: 31042719
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 20:05
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;-) yeah, strange. good old Z.
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| 2 | deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 20:07
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cant wait to get rid of that Wright character tomorrow.
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| 3 | ole
ID: 31042719
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 20:08
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has anyone been intrigued by shaq's performance lately? sure, his FT% still sucks but for his price... not so bad?
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| 4 | deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 20:11
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not really ole
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| 5 | deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 20:34
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Korver coming off the bench before Louie?
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| 6 | Gary Dotson
Donor
ID: 571057216
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 20:37
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#2....Im with you there deejay
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| 7 | deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 20:39
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Yeah Gary,
Plan was Kirilenko, but that doesnt look sucha good plan right now. Cant find too many options(that I like or dont have) with 6.5 mil though.
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| 8 | qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 20:45
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Louis Williams still not in the game...finally, a train is crashing that i'm not on.
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| 9 | ole
ID: 31042719
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 20:52
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in the game now. 2 assists.
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| 10 | qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 20:58
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and the train is back on track
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| 11 | ole
ID: 31042719
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 21:03
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well, he's on track but not breaking any records yet ;-)
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| 12 | ole
ID: 31042719
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 21:08
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james is a monster.
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| 13 | Pacers Rule
Sustainer
ID: 910311210
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 21:22
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Wow, Pacers jumping on Denver 15-0 to start the game.
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| 14 | Pacers Rule
Sustainer
ID: 910311210
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 21:25
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Pacers leading on the boards 10-0
They must remember scoring 74 points in the first half against Denver earlier this season only to give up a 24 point lead and lose the game.
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| 15 | Qwerty123
Sustainer
ID: 349431211
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 21:34
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LeBron getting 5 more minutes to grab 6 more rebounds... or 8 steals, or 9 blocks.
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| 16 | G
Donor
ID: 5810561615
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 21:37
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Does anyone watch Mem games? What is the deal with R. Gay? He is in foul trouble just about every night. Is he overly agressive on defense? Is he a bad defender and reaching all the time to catch up? Is Mem deep enough that they just set him loose? or does he not understand that you can't play in foul trouble?
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| 17 | Blooki
Sustainer
ID: 449292712
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 21:46
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I'm never selling Lebron.
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| 18 | ole
ID: 31042719
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 21:47
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i wonder if lebron will play the whole season for that long per game and that hard. he will be exhausted by the time the playoffs start.
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| 19 | ole
ID: 31042719
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 21:52
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68 tsnp for james. crazy.
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| 20 | JMISA
ID: 151050262
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 21:55
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james' best stat of the night is going 14-15 at the line as a <70% FT shooter ... clutch
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| 21 | ole
ID: 31042719
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 21:59
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just for fun, if you could put together a new nba team (no limits) who would your starting 5 be? i'd go for
lebron
kobe
DH
KG
dirk
;-)
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| 22 | JMISA
ID: 151050262
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 22:02
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that's an easy one
PG: Louis williams
SG: Beno Udrih
SF: Jamario Moon
PF: Andray Blatche
C: D Harrison
atleast ill make some $$$
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| 23 | Usual Suspects
ID: 449382514
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 22:09
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21- No PG? How could you not have Nash or at least Kidd there? You need someone to distribute.
I'd go with the same as you except replace Dirk with Nash.
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| 24 | Blooki
Sustainer
ID: 449292712
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 22:12
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PG: Chris Paul
SG: Kobe Bryant
SF: Lebron James
PF: Tim Duncan
C: Dwight Howard
Role players be damned.
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| 25 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 22:14
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PG Iverson
PF Garnett
The rest doesn't matter as much. Such a shame this never happened.
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| 26 | JMISA
ID: 151050262
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 22:15
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:54.9 PHI - L. Williams hit the second free throw
:54.9 PHI - L. Williams hit the first free throw
:54.9 MIL - Loose ball foul on A. Storey
:54.9 PHI - L. Williams defensive rebound
and an additional 3.5 tsnp to closeout another decent night =)
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| 27 | CJ
Leader
ID: 499271021
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 22:34
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That is an awesome team.....Add KG, Boozer, Dirk, Nash, D. Williams, Kidd and D. Wade waiting on the bench.
L.Williams played 24 minutes finishing with 22tsnp
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| 28 | JMISA
ID: 151050262
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 22:57
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Kobe on a tear through the first 6 minutes lets see if he keeps it up
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| 29 | qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 23:19
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Thank you for the forcefulness of that statement...it reinforced my plan.
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| 30 | G
Donor
ID: 5810561615
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 23:26
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wow I took a beating on RV tonight. Howard and Kaman down 120K each and Kirilenko lost too. Eek.
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| 31 | qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 23:31
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me too G...first FV loss of the season I think.
only thing that makes me feel better is I wouldn't have traded any one of the losers if I had 5 trades.
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| 32 | Pacers Rule
Sustainer
ID: 910311210
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 23:32
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Tough to fault a guy for keeping Kaman and Howard on his team.
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| 33 | Pacers Rule
Sustainer
ID: 910311210
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 23:33
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Denver/Indiana coming down to last possession. Kind of an up and down game. Each team has had its issues. Denvers would be defensive apathy.
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| 34 | Rubalamp
ID: 367351922
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 23:35
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Shawne Williams just proved that JO is no longer needed in indy...
I am hoping this Denver indy game goes into over time...
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| 35 | qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 23:36
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Shawne Williams is one of the weirder guys to own in this game. capable of going for 2.5...and now tonight he's in the high 30s.
hopefully J'Oneal sits this week and Williams keeps getting tic, so I can keep him for a week.
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| 36 | Rubalamp
ID: 367351922
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 23:41
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Qwert...he just got over 40...
The fact of the matter is, JO does not fit with this team, WIlliams,
Daniels and Granger need to be in the game more running with
Foster, Dunleavy, Murphy and tinsley...
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| 37 | Blooki
Sustainer
ID: 449292712
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 23:43
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Shawne Williams - F - IND
The Indianapolis Star is reporting that Shawne Williams has filed for a restraining order against Rubalamp. This should not have any effect on his fantasy production. If anything, it should let Shawne sleep easier at night and focus on playing the game of basketball. Continue to start him if you need 3s and are in a deep league.
Source: RotoOnion.com
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| 38 | qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 23:44
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I hope Coach OB agrees with you Ruba...for the rest of the week anyway.
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| 39 | qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 23:45
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i don't usually like to say lol...but, lol
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| 40 | Pacers Rule
Sustainer
ID: 910311210
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 23:47
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I will be shocked if Shawne Williams keeps this up. This may be a career best game for him. Not only got the start (only the fourth in his career, I think) but also logged pretty heavy minutes for him. He is steadily earning more of the Pacers' confidence, that's for sure, but to expect this kind of production from him consistently right now is a longshot. J.O. almost played tonight, and if he had, you can be sure he would have played at least half the game. Also, Granger was in foul trouble on some very poor officiating in my biased view, so he sat much more than normal. Both of these factors, in addition to Shawne's hot shooting early (and consistently - to give him credit where it's due) led to Shawne getting much more burn than normal. He's a young player and is not nearly as skilled on the defensive end of the floor, which also works against his minutes. I like his upside and offensive potential for the REAL game, but fantasy-wise this season for the Pacers, unless they trade J.O. (which they might) I think there's just too much depth at the wings for Williams to produce consistently. If he's an ultra cheapie he may be worth a filler spot or possible RV train esp. if he can put together another strong game next time, and if you already have him then he's probably worth keeping through his next game anyhow, but my money's on weak production 2 of the next 3 games.
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| 41 | Pacers Rule
Sustainer
ID: 910311210
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 23:57
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However, with that said, #36 is not far off the mark, Rubalamp. J.O. still is a defensive force both on blocks and charges, and also has cred with the officials, which a lot of our players don't yet. I mean they are calling phantom fouls on Harrison right and left. If we could put J.O. on the court for fewer minutes and teach him a motion offense and get him to run hard up and down the court every possession he would be a big asset - but he seems to be so used to being a post player and he is not nearly as quick with his moves as he used to be. By the time he decides what he's doing with the ball and gets into his move, like 5 seconds have ticked off the clock nearly every time. He's more successful when he catches and goes right away, and then either gets free for a good shot or gets his teamate a good look. His slow, deliberative style simply helps the defense.
He also needs to be spending more time on his shooting in practice. His shot is way off right now most nights. If he could get healthy it would help, but his pencil legs just don't seem to be able to support the physical play of the NBA. I wonder why he doesn't lift more and do more lower body strength work. His knees and calves are just too fragile.
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| 42 | Rubalamp
ID: 367351922
Wed, Nov 28, 2007, 00:01
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Pacers Rule, for the most part I agree. Yes, we continue to play
JO, but I don't know why, it is clear he is not 100% nor even
close to it. When he is out there we don't run, and when we
don't run, we don't win.
Yes, williams is young and is going to be inconsistent...much
like O'Neal was when the Pacers brought him in about 7 seasons
ago... If he starts getting even 25 minutes a game, I think you
will see him able to consistently put up 25 points.
I am not just talking about fantasy production (though, unless I
get to the point that I have no need for cheapies because my RV
is over 80 mil, he is consistent enough to warrant a position.
From a Pacer fan perspective, JO trade for any young talent
would be an improvement, my newest dream...Would Phoenix
give up Diaw and Barbosa for him? I would take that in a heart
beat...We could outrun the whole league, and probably play
improved Team D...the Suns could start Nash, Hill, Marion,
O'Neal, and Stoudemire...I think both teams improve.
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| 43 | JMISA
ID: 151050262
Wed, Nov 28, 2007, 00:04
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need a big game from Kobe so he wont incur more losses before a good dump off for him and also to stick it to those Davis holders
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| 44 | JMISA
ID: 151050262
Wed, Nov 28, 2007, 00:11
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bynum + gay both win the Hacker award ... he's out already with his 4th foul
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| 45 | ole
ID: 31042719
Wed, Nov 28, 2007, 00:25
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he'll be back in the 4th. wouldn't be surprised if he gets 40+ points.
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| 46 | bd
ID: 31281917
Wed, Nov 28, 2007, 00:26
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Did Collison get hurt? Gamecast showed a foul on him by Kobe...an official's time out...then Sene came in to shoot the free throws.
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| 47 | JMISA
ID: 151050262
Wed, Nov 28, 2007, 00:28
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yea i wanted to get bynum today from AK but his price is at a peak right now and feared a leak soon but the points would be nice especially if AK decides to play like a pansy tommorrow again
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| 48 | Pacers Rule
Sustainer
ID: 910311210
Wed, Nov 28, 2007, 00:28
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Rubalamp,
I assume you mean 25 tnsp, not 25 pts? In 25 mins? I think 25 minutes could be realistic if he continues to excel. Marquis can be very effective yet he seems very inconsistent on a nightly basis.
Though your trade idea sounds nice on paper, I don't think the salaries come close to matching (not sure if they've got a fat contract they could throw in or not) plus that would totally change the style Phoenix would need to play, and probably that would not work to Marion's advantage. Plus, I don't think Hill can guard many of today's SG's, so that would expose him and the (helping) bigs to lots of fouls. Plus, if J.O. stays minimally healthy, and getting healthy seems unlikely any time soon since they seem to have the need to play him (and he wants to play) before he's healthy - I don't think ANY team is going to want to buy into 20 million a year for an injured 10 point 7 rebound player.
I do think J.O. would make a much better #2 or #3 player at this point in his career. I also think a change of scenery would just plain do him good.
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| 49 | Pacers Rule
Sustainer
ID: 910311210
Wed, Nov 28, 2007, 00:36
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#46 from rotoworld:
Nick Collison left Tuesday's game near the end of the third quarter with an eye injury.
Mouhammed Sene was picked by the Lakers to shoot Collison's free throws and hit 1-of-2. Collison's owners have to hope he didn't suffer a broken orbital on an inadvertant elbow from Kobe Bryant, so check back on Wednesday for an update.
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| 50 | Rubalamp
ID: 367351922
Wed, Nov 28, 2007, 00:39
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Yes, PR...
I meant 25 tsnp...And yes, O'Neal needs to get healthy before he
is traded, so why keep rushing him back and pulling him out
another couple games, especially when we are WINNING without
him. His value is decreasing by the moment. You are right
about their salaries...JO at 19 mill, and those 2 have just over 14
mill...if either team were really interested, they could tinker out
something, but I realize it is a personal dream trade.
The other thing that may effect Williams value is Diogu's return,
which could come in the next couple weeks...
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| 51 | qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Wed, Nov 28, 2007, 01:17
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Ruba,
I do not think Williams warrants total devotion, in terms of your TSN team. Having owned him for 3 weeks, while he hasn't been bad, he's probably been just good enough to hold. I know he's cheap and not bad value, but his price is staying that low because he isn't producing like players like L. Williams, Moon and Udrih have.
In my opinion, there are enough cheap options to expect a little more out of him. However, I do agree with you that given 25 minutes a game, he could become a consistent option.
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| 52 | JMISA
ID: 151050262
Wed, Nov 28, 2007, 01:29
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well honestly after today's game and the recent minutes he's been getting williams would have been a small train if anything ... the reason why he won;t though is because he has like 3-4 games left before a 1 in 7 so he won't be going anywhere until 12/11
that should give sometime for people to evaluate him
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| 53 | deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Wed, Nov 28, 2007, 04:53
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And not missing Howard already, you sellers?
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