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Subject: Soulman's '07-'08 GMD Team (TP2)
Posted by: Soulman
- Donor [016105313] Wed, Dec 05, 2007, 05:00
Congrats everyone for a strong first TP. I very much liked how we worked together as a team and it's also great to see this benefited our individual team performances. So let's continue to openly discuss all our ideas and to help each other as much as possible.
I'm sorry I had to drop bd but the close battle at the top forced me to try to give team performance an additional boost wherever possible. This is why I'm excited to have added DrD who with his wisely collected stash of trades will doubtlessly help us make a push.
DrD, welcome to Team Soulman and good luck everyone for TP2! |
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| 242 | Usual Suspects
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Sun, Dec 16, 2007, 12:15
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Thanks Gescom, 95% sure I am going to go Beno-Telfair, provided no one on my team suffers an injury before 11:00. That way I am only in jeopardy of having an injured player on Tuesday
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| 244 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Sun, Dec 16, 2007, 12:55
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Went with Maxiel, he is doomed.
Gescom, you do have a point, there is one difference which I think is big. Beno's 2-7 starts now and ends before the holidays. Outlaw's 2-8 travels over Christmas where there is one day with no games and 2 days with limited games.
Maybe he will have some selling pressure, but I think he will be OK.
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| 245 | turnabouts
ID: 6828256
Sun, Dec 16, 2007, 19:38
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I agree with Dave R on Outlaw. Trading Jaric to him. It's more a money move. 2 months later in the season i wouldn't do the same.
The other player i am not so satisfied with is Kiri. But i think with Okur out a really good from Kiri will follow in the next days. Hopefully.
I am not really sure what to do next week with my team. There is no player on my team who is a must sell. Besides Kiri maybe. I really like Boozer but i survived Baron Davis and hopefully Boozer too. What are your planned moves next week?
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| 247 | DrD
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Mon, Dec 17, 2007, 13:04
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Last night was the night I was to start making up some ground with 3 GSW players going. What a disaster. I'm desparate for suggestions. Please!
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| 248 | Soulman
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Mon, Dec 17, 2007, 13:14
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My full scale barbell approach surely backfired, I'm in free fall all week. Dorell and Shawne combine are less than half a player and Baron has been far from stud-like. Especially last night's disaster kind of wore my patience thin, so I'm contemplating the following options with my last trade today:
1) Baron > Gay/Turk/Tin. Frees cash to turn Dorell and/or Shawne into anything useful down the road
2) Baron>AlJeff, doesn't free cash but releases one of the crowded G slots.
3) Hold Baron today and sell for anybody tomorrow if he pulls off anything less than a triple double. If other sell needs come up (via injury etc) I'd be forced to hold past tomorrow of course.
Any team preference for either 1, 2 or 3? And if 1, whom of Gay/Turk/Tin would you prefer?
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| 249 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Mon, Dec 17, 2007, 13:45
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Soulman, all are solid choices, and I guess it depends on what else you have in mind. Gay is certainly the cheapest, and all have good long term schedules. And I hear you about the G slot, seems a logjam at this point.
One thing maybe of interest, getting Jefferson gives you the flexibility of any position ( or at least a F ) when it comes time to trade Bynum. Maybe you have an out for him in mind anyway.
As an aside I like Gay allot, and this is about the only team that I wasn't able to grab him on.
And while we are thinking burning the last trade, SJ still occupies a spot on my team. I would love to dump him but haven't found a reasonable replacement. Gay would be the guy, but I actually lose a game through the end of the year. Might not be that important. Just not sure it is worth spending a trade. Also considering Granger, nice long term hold, but he is so up and down.
Any thoughts?
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| 250 | deejay
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Mon, Dec 17, 2007, 15:36
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Soulman,
I would do a combination of 2 and 3, sell tomorrow no matter what he does tonight and get Al Jef. I am gonna do that too, you can bet on it if you move him today (vs no defense Memphis), you are going to regret that.
Al Jef plays Miami also, seem to prefer the other match up.
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| 251 | deejay
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Mon, Dec 17, 2007, 15:39
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Btw I do like Gay too, but the matchups not that much before Xmas(today aside). But hes on the radar.
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| 252 | Soulman
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Mon, Dec 17, 2007, 16:01
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Thanks for your feedback, Dave and deejay. Funnily enough I came to the same conclusion as deejay in the meantime, so I'm gonna do it exactly as described in #250! But thanks for reassuring me, deejay! :)
Gay's next matchups are simply ugly and could bode ill for the Christmas gap. Turk would give me a third Magic player, which I don't want to have to not have to book 3 trades on 1/3. And Tin again would lock me with 4 G only players which is something I want to avoid at the current junction. So AlJeff it is, even if that means I have to ride out Dorell/Shawne or have to look for similarly priced alternatives. And I'll do the trade tomorrow because as deejay correctly puts, Baron's matchup for tonight is far more favorable than Al's. Heck, trading away Baron on a day he plays Memphis would simply be begging for punishment...
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| 253 | deejay
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Mon, Dec 17, 2007, 16:05
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Would wait Dave.
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| 254 | Soulman
Donor
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Mon, Dec 17, 2007, 16:05
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Dave, as it is your last trade also, I'd recommend to sit tight with Jax. I understand Gay is tempting today but as you say, you lose a game. And get Gay's ugly matchups. Moreover, if any widely held player tweaks an ankle tonight, you want to have a trade ready tomorrow to dodge the hammer. Especially if Jax drops 40 on Memphis. Which isn't a completely unrealistic scenario.
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| 255 | deejay
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Mon, Dec 17, 2007, 16:09
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It does free up little over a million Soulman, I will hopefully go Shawne Wil to Maxiell/Telfair/someone else with that money, at the refresh. Well see.
Had been looking at Blatche, but hes slumping a lot lately, so thats a no-go.
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| 256 | Soulman
Donor
ID: 016105313
Mon, Dec 17, 2007, 16:12
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#247
I hear you Doc, last night was a disaster for sure! But still let's not make that lead us to rash actions. I'd wait and see how your 9 active guys are doing tonight and what the landscape tomorrow will be. And if then opportunity presents itself, you can use your trade surplus to do all the big money moves.
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| 257 | Usual Suspects
ID: 5510262310
Mon, Dec 17, 2007, 16:51
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249- As the resident Granger holder, I can tell you that I am less than thrilled about his daily prospects. I am always scared of a game in the teens and hoping for 30's. I personally don't think he is worth a trade out of SJax.
He is, however, a solid hold the rest of the year because of low enough ownership and schedule.
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| 258 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Mon, Dec 17, 2007, 17:01
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Yeh, I had Granger earlier, and you never knew what to expect. Same with Dunleavy. To bad, with that schedule.
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| 259 | Gescom
Leader
ID: 520461315
Mon, Dec 17, 2007, 17:29
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Soulman, similar feeling and similar conclusion here. Will hold Baron today and revesit tomorrow. Am looking at Al Jef, Yao and Hinrich.
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| 261 | deejay
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Tue, Dec 18, 2007, 08:00
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Thanks for nothing Baron.
Baron to Al Jeff for me today.
Thought one second about Hinrich, but no thanks.
Tomorrow I will gladly upgrade(and that for sure aint an understatement) Shawne Williams.
Thinking Maxiell right now.
Kirilenko starting to work on my nerves too, might package them, but cant find really anyone in that range that I like at this point.
Gay is a not a bad option, but that loses games, plus buying into a player thats about to face the Spurs and Detroit aint that good of a plan to me.
Add a 1in4 with the Spurs in it again to that, right after Xmas.
And I will wait on him.
Would like to find another GF, but that aint easy it seems.
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| 262 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Tue, Dec 18, 2007, 08:38
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Deejay, how cheap a G/F are you looking for:
Grant Hill: Has one less game than Gay over the next 3 weeks, the same over 25 days and plays on Christmas, usually a popular buy date for players.
Assuming he isn't widely owned, if you can live through two 1-4's down the road ( one of which is over New Years so it's not that bad ) he can be held until the end of January
Azubuike: Playing time seems sporadic, but decent producer for his price and relatively cheap. If he doesn't take a $ hit tonight, his price might be stable for a while. Might be a risky pick but is a G/F
Gay sure pops off the top of the sortibles. But he could be in for a tough time price wise if he puts up some stinkers. Jan 2 would be a great time to get him if you don't already.
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| 263 | Gescom
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Tue, Dec 18, 2007, 08:46
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The more I look at Hinrich, the more I like it. He has a 10-in-15 starting today. Would allow to upgrade Wright to either Gay, Jax or Haslem on 12/19 or 21 and Calderon / Brewer to Udrih / B.Miller on 12/23.
I currently have no idea what to do with Bynum on 12/26.
Am I insane to consider Hinrich ?
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| 264 | deejay
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ID: 501182710
Tue, Dec 18, 2007, 08:51
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Thanks Dave.
Gay is still the best option to me out of those, but the opponents scare me too much and as you point out, he might be in for a rough time.
If I package Kiri/Shawne Williams tomorrow then I would have around 8.7 mil for 2 players....
Kind find a duo that I really like. Plus it always loses games.
So it could be Kiri stays a bit more and I simply do Shawne to Maxiell.
A G/F would be just for the flex...
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| 265 | deejay
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ID: 501182710
Tue, Dec 18, 2007, 08:53
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Dont get too overexcited Gescom, one player a team seem to have career nights vs my poor Knicks night in night out this year.
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| 266 | deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Tue, Dec 18, 2007, 08:55
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should say: Cant find
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| 267 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Tue, Dec 18, 2007, 09:40
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Gescom, I would certainly get cold feet a bit with Hinrich, although you can't beat the schedule, nor his last 4 games production. I guess it depends on which Hinrich are you buying.
Miller ( and Dalembart ) will probably be hot picks from Bynum, and you would be getting Miller early so looks like you could replace Bynum with a F. Not sure your cash at that time but Gay would be an option.
BTW, I was looking at Yao, as you mentioned previously. He is nice fit back into Kaman later, but so is Brad.
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| 268 | deejay
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Tue, Dec 18, 2007, 09:50
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Brad was my original plan, Kiri to Brad on 12/23, looks good to me.
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| 269 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Tue, Dec 18, 2007, 10:27
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deejay, if you are getting Jefferon, I'm not sure I would rush out and get Brad Miller. You don't need another C and I would think you might be able to do better than spend $5 mil on Miller. And as a Kiri owner, I'm not sure why you are in such a rush to trade him. Granted he hasn't been great, but do you really think Brad is going to be any better?
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| 270 | deejay
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Tue, Dec 18, 2007, 10:37
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Would be for when Dwight has to go mainly Dave, which is close after the new year...
Granted Brad is not spectacular, but hes decent.
I am gonna keep my eye on Nazr in Charlotte too.
Well see how Kiri does the next 3 games.
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| 271 | qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Tue, Dec 18, 2007, 10:57
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intruder
I think when Dwight has to go, it makes a lot of sense to just go in and out of Camby for a 4 to 1 advantage, meaning you don't have to have another C set up.
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| 272 | deejay
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Tue, Dec 18, 2007, 11:06
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that of course is another road qwert, hadnt seen that yet. thanks for the tip.
However i surely dont mind having 3C's, can always come in handy.
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| 273 | turnabouts
ID: 461061517
Tue, Dec 18, 2007, 11:55
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I have the money to go Kiri - Al Jefferson today. I like this move. Al Jeff gives me a center and if all goes normal more points than Kiri (Plan A)
Other possibilities are:
B) Deron Williams to Kobe or
C) Kiri to Hinrich or
D) save the trade.
Any preferences here?
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| 274 | deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Tue, Dec 18, 2007, 12:40
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Prefer A, coming from someone who added himself though
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| 275 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Tue, Dec 18, 2007, 15:05
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Is there anyone on this team of sound mind that can convince not to use my last trade and move Kiri ( or SJ ) to Haslem?
The extra cash from Kiri would come in handy in a few days.
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| 276 | deejay
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ID: 501182710
Tue, Dec 18, 2007, 15:45
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Why are you in sucha rush to trade Kirilenko, Dave? :)
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| 277 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Tue, Dec 18, 2007, 16:03
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Cause I have a trade burning a hole in my pocket ;)
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| 278 | Gescom
Leader
ID: 520461315
Tue, Dec 18, 2007, 17:38
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Jefferson would be a logical choice from Baron but that closes too many doors and upgrades for the next days so I'm rolling the dice with Captain Kirk. That can be the move that cave me for good but well, no danger no glory.
turnabouts A, C or D but not B. Deron has some gas left and Kobe is an 8 day hold.
Dave, I won't talk you out of it cause I think it's a good move.
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| 279 | turnabouts
ID: 6828256
Tue, Dec 18, 2007, 17:39
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Haslem seems very good in home games (+ 8 TSNP more than on the road). From the next 13 games only 4 are at home. So i will not take him.
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| 280 | deejay
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Wed, Dec 19, 2007, 04:54
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Now this Beno thing, pft, I cant seem to get a break lately.
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| 281 | Dave R
SuperDude
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Wed, Dec 19, 2007, 07:16
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| Rank | GurupieName | LSWP0 | LSWP | LSWP5 | WWR | FV | Cash | RV | FVC | Trades | | 1 | deejay-168 | 5584.5 | 83.5 | 2672.5 | 53 | 66.16 | 1.86 | 64.30 | 0.31 | 4 | | 2 | turnabouts-1495 | 5539 | 38 | 2560.5 | 16 | 66.74 | 0.05 | 66.69 | 0.24 | 4 | | 3 | Dave R-4326 | 5535 | 38 | 2668.5 | 403 | 68.21 | 2.10 | 66.11 | 0.13 | 4 | | 4 | Gescom-1851 | 5506.5 | 112 | 2799.5 | 31 | 66.98 | 4.21 | 62.77 | 0.37 | 4 | | 5 | Soulman-786 | 5433 | 38 | 2637.5 | 113 | 65.71 | 1.78 | 63.93 | 0.15 | 4 | | 6 | Dilo-1633 | 5400.5 | 78 | 2639.5 | 67 | 67.25 | 0.35 | 66.90 | 0.16 | 5 | | 7 | Usual Suspects-1857 | 5378 | 38 | 2582.5 | 62 | 64.94 | 0.55 | 64.39 | 0.01 | 4 | | 8 | DrD-1536 | 5249.5 | 78 | 2497.5 | 266 | 60.74 | 0.98 | 59.76 | -0.02 | 9 |
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| 282 | deejay
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ID: 501182710
Wed, Dec 19, 2007, 07:34
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Im screwed again.
Was all set to go Shawne Williams to Maxiell (or Telfair since that window didnt close) today.
Now theres this Beno thing, and Beno plus Shawne plus what I have in the bank gives me 4.21 for 2 players, that looks like fun. :(
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| 283 | Gescom
Leader
ID: 520461315
Wed, Dec 19, 2007, 08:08
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Congrats Soulmen. We won TP2 by a thin margin. Something tells me the Hinrich pick up was decisive ;-)
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| 284 | deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Wed, Dec 19, 2007, 08:21
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Hadnt noticed that yet, congrats team.
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| 285 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Wed, Dec 19, 2007, 08:31
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deejay, kind of sucks as the sole holder of Beno. Not sure what to tell you. I was at the game, but didn't see it happen. He was helped off the court, and I assumed he sprained an ankle, but apparently it was a kick to the leg. Rotoworld is " assuming " he is questionable for tonight.
I looked through the Sacramento paper, and what I posted in the injury thread is all I could find and looked on the Kings website as well.... nothing.
My guess is it isn't to bad, but, on the other hand, with three days off after today they might just sit him, with the hand thing and all. Pure speculation on my part. The hand thing.... wow where did that come from, totally ouy of the blue.
I have him on several teams and don't know what to do.
May put a cramp in all the Brewer => Beno plans for 12/23. May as well just hold Brewer IMO, no games are gained and the same move can be made a week later. Let the hand and leg heal fully. That could bode poorly for Beno making any cash back til 12/30.
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| 286 | deejay
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Wed, Dec 19, 2007, 08:45
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Indeed Dave, doesnt look too good. Thanks for the info.
I might go agressive today, Shawne and Beno have to go, Simple(unless Beno calls me to tell hes gonna play which is very unlikely), since I cant afford anything near decent with those 2 combined, I will have to throw in someone else.
So Kobe(that news is not that good either) or Kiri, will need to think long and deep about this situation.
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| 287 | Gescom
Leader
ID: 520461315
Wed, Dec 19, 2007, 09:21
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deejay, that's rough and tough. Can't you simply deal with Beno today and package Shawne with someone else later in the week to avoid being down to one trade on a Wednesday ? Shawne can't get worse money and point wise than he is already.
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| 288 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Wed, Dec 19, 2007, 09:26
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deejay, just some food for thought. Maybe if you want to move Beno today, grab someone you can afford, and hold Shawne. Other than the fact he isn't playing, he won't cost much $, and maybe somehow he will find is way onto the court.
Then after Kobe's next 2 games pick up either Baron or SJ, depending on who you want from Shawne. I think both will be popular on the 22nd, and should be cheaper than they are now. Wade works also, but the GSW players can be held a while longer.
GSW plays 7-10 (11 counting New Years Day), followed by 2-6, then another 7-11, and with trades needed around the beginning of the year, you may want to hold through that 2-6. Wouldn't be the end of the world.
Might not be a bad idea, being that Kobe is dinged up.
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| 289 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Wed, Dec 19, 2007, 09:27
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Gescom, you type faster than I do......
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| 290 | deejay
Sustainer
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Wed, Dec 19, 2007, 09:58
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thanks for the ideas.
could indeed end up holding Shawne today.
Am in "drawing board-land" as were speaking.
What a tough day already.
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| 291 | Soulman
Donor
ID: 016105313
Wed, Dec 19, 2007, 14:28
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Yeah, congrats everyone for taking TP2 victory. Special acknowledgement to Gescom who was head and shoulders above everybody else this TP and thus compensated for the weak showing of your team captain. ;)
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| 292 | Soulman
Donor
ID: 016105313
Wed, Dec 19, 2007, 14:46
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BTW, deejay I agree with Gescom and Dave that burning three today is not the way to go. Let's see what Shawne does before replacing a stress-free slot (which admittedly in the case of Shawne is also a TSNP-free slot) with another bust. I was looking at going Shawne>Maxiell myself but Maxiell is gonna be schooled by KG tonight so no hurry in picking him up. If Shawne continues to be Agent Zero TSNP we still can take action later on, we don't lose money worth mentioning.
Different story with Udrih however. I don't have him but I think he has to go everywhere, the sky will be falling for him the next few days (even more than it already has). So I'd also suggest to drop Beno for anybody today and sit tight with everybody else.
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| 293 | Gescom
Leader
ID: 520461315
Thu, Dec 20, 2007, 04:44
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Thanks for the props. Came back to earth alreadty with Surpise Tinsley no show.
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| 295 | Kevin
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Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 10:45
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