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Subject: Weykool's GMD Team (TP3)
Posted by: weykool
- [2842717] Wed, Dec 19, 2007, 17:21
Decided to stand pat and hope those on the bottom can get it going and turn this thing around. |
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| 34 | Kal Zakath
ID: 269581213
Sun, Dec 23, 2007, 10:45
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OK -
Looks as though Brewer is a must sell, though the question becomes - to whom?
Telfair, even with the big gain last night, IMO, could be vulnerable as well.
I'm looking ahead to next Wednesday as well - planning on holding Bynum through the final games, downgrading him, and upgrading someone to Paul (who goes through a ridiculous schedule for about 10 days).
Unfortunately have left myself with just a little cash, and no G/F at guard to get flexibility.
Thinking of:
Kirilenko -> Jackson (frees up a little more cash), but that leaves me 30K short of getting Yi.
Unfortunately, the cheaper options all seem to be at Guard.
Maxiell's points have gone way down, though his schedule is great.
So, do I pass on Jackson?
Here are some options I am looking at:
A) Kirilenko/Brewer become Jackson/Barnes or Yi/Barnes
B) Kirlenko/Brewer/Boozer become LeBron/Yi/Barnes
C) Kirilenko/Brewer/Telfair become Yi/Jackson/Udrih.
This would leave me tradeless (if I make 3 moves), but should be all right overall. Again, looking to move one of the guards (Iverson) to Paul. If I only make 2 trades today, will make the third tomorrow (as I think that Paul starts gaining and Iverson loses some after tonight).
Thoughts?
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| 35 | Kal Zakath
ID: 269581213
Sun, Dec 23, 2007, 10:49
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PS - McDyess is also in the mix of my possibilities.
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| 36 | Kal Zakath
ID: 269581213
Sun, Dec 23, 2007, 11:00
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Sorry about 3 posts in a row, but am now leaning toward D:
Kirilenko/Brewer/Boozer become Yi/McDyess/Jackson today, then on Wednesday, Telfair becomes Paul.
This would give me:
Paul
Wade
Iverson
Davis
Howard
McDyess
Yi
Jackson
'x' (from Bynum)
Nazr
Going forward, with Baron Davis on the watch list - I need him to go back to the Baron he was at the beginning of the season - because his schedule is great and I hated taking the cash hit for him waiting for this.
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| 37 | weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Sun, Dec 23, 2007, 12:24
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I went Brewer/Gay to Salmons/Yi
Didnt have the flex for udrih.
Tradeless as well.
But only 2 price updates before refresh.
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| 38 | JMISA
ID: 51115937
Sun, Dec 23, 2007, 15:03
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i duno if this has relevence but could Yi's good performance for the last 3 games just be because of villanueva being out ... he remains day to day and is questionable for the next game ... on the other hand desmon mason is out so that gives more minutes for both yi and villa
thoughts?
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| 39 | Florian
Dude
ID: 034815289
Sun, Dec 23, 2007, 17:06
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Traded Brewer to Udrih leaving me with 2.78 in cash.
Yao returned to yesterday's game, so I assume he'll be playing today.
Want to trade Kirilenko. The three obvious players that jump out under are Butler(but will he play with his sprained ankle), Marion, and Stoudamire. Both Phoenix players could be held over the next month with their great upcoming schedules, so with the Butler injury I'm leaning this way. So do I pick up Stoudamire, who can put up big games, but is much more injury-prone, or Marion. Marion has the higer season averages, but over the last month the difference is only 1 point/game. And I worry that Marion production may decline if Stoudamire's improves. And who will make more money.
Since none of the involved players play tonight I've got a few hours to think about it. I'd welcome any opinions.
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| 40 | C. Bird
ID: 41055623
Sun, Dec 23, 2007, 17:42
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39 I'd hold AK and see if Butler is going to be able to play. I like him for the point and money over any of the Phx players.
As for me, I'm going to hold Brewer. I have him at forward and no flex. I will suffer the two days worth of losses and package him with Bryant/Bynum on 12/26 for some package of Tisley/Butler/Jamison/Paul/Yi/Jax/etc. No other planned moves for me next week. Should set up nicely.
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| 41 | Florian
Dude
ID: 034815289
Sun, Dec 23, 2007, 17:55
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I don't really want to hold Kirilenko tonight because he'll lose a bunch of money. The Phoenix players also play on Christmas and Butler doesn't play until the 26th. There's a good chance I'll still pick up Butler from another slot on January 2nd.
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| 42 | Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Sun, Dec 23, 2007, 22:56
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Anyone considering Hill?
4.7M 30/g and G/F
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| 44 | JMISA
ID: 381123717
Mon, Dec 24, 2007, 13:38
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Im planning on making 3 moves to start the next trade week
Bogans + LBJ + Bynum r out
Bogans still has a good schedule but he is consistently underproducing by 5tsnp a gm and it is draining my team and i need a G spot for paul
LBJ can be held but given I went BOSH>AI i have no option for c paul and that would suicide my already dieing team
Paul is the only sure buy from the 3 goin which leaves me with roughly about 9.3 Mill for 2 F or 1F 1C spots. Altho 1 F + 1 C is desireable.
Option A: Nazr + Jason Richardson
Option B: Dalembart or B Miller + Yi or Mcdyess
Option C: B Miller + Salmons or Hill
Option D: Salmons + Hill
Option E: Artest or Jamison + Oberto
Option D+E are jus possiblities but probably won't happen
Thoughts?
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| 45 | weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Mon, Dec 24, 2007, 14:31
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#44. Kinda like Nazr and Yi.
Congrats team for getting out of the cellar.
Just need to keep things going in the same direction and we should be back in contention for the top spot.
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| 46 | Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Mon, Dec 24, 2007, 17:41
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I like option D, just because I think both of those guys are overperforming for their price, but so are Nazr and Yi, so Weykool's suggestion makes just as much sense. RV wise, Nazr and Yi will go further.
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| 47 | Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Mon, Dec 24, 2007, 17:42
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almost forgot
Merry Christmas and happy holidays to everyone on team Weykool!!!
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| 48 | kentucky indians
ID: 611511118
Mon, Dec 24, 2007, 19:52
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JMISA
Chris Paul is a 10 day hold... too short a time period.
Option F: Nazr Mohammed, Gerald Wallace and Jamel Tinsley.
You are like me... TRADE POOR... you need longer term holds.
My $0.02.
Merry Christmas to all of you and your families!!!
Tom
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| 49 | JMISA
ID: 381123717
Mon, Dec 24, 2007, 23:29
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Merry Xmas to all
KI:
I kno he is a 10 day hold but he still cannot be overlooked with that unbeatable stretch ... i already have my trades planned out for the next 3 weeks and im fine with 3 emergency trades in the next 3 weeks to get rid of who i want ... there are 9 trades made for 4-5 players and i have 3 trades set aside for the other 5 players if they slack but all 5 of my other players r technically holdable long term > udrih + gay + jackson + haywood + nazr/yi (whom ill have)
i am pretty sure moslty everyone will have paul by 27th
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| 50 | qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Tue, Dec 25, 2007, 00:21
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*intruder*
disagree on Paul...I think a lot will have him, but his schedule is short enough that he is not a must have, nor will everyone be able to grab him.
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| 51 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Tue, Dec 25, 2007, 07:26
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*intruder *
Agree with KI and qwert.
No Paul for here. Agree he will be popular but to short a term for me. I'm passing
He will get one big bump in RV tomorrow and that's likely about it.
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| 52 | Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Tue, Dec 25, 2007, 13:28
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Having the same Paul problem myself, trying to decide if I should get Paul from James.
I know short term holds aren't a smart thing to do, but I don't see any other studs I can take, and I am already getting Wallace from Bynum. Here is what I have planned for the next 2 weeks:
Davis
G. Hill
Tinsley -> J. Smith (2nd or the 9th)
Udrih
James -> Paul -> Nash
Howard -> Camby (for that 4 in 5) -> Howard
Boozer -> Amare
Gay
Bynum -> G. Wallace
Nazr
so 2 trades this week and 5 next week, the rest should be a hold. I can always hold Tinsley the extra week if I need to. So I think I can make Paul's short term hold work, although as mentioned by others, it's not the greatest option.
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| 53 | weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Tue, Dec 25, 2007, 14:10
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Seems to me a 7 in 10 from Paul would be the better use of a trade than a 4 in 5 from Camby.
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| 54 | Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Tue, Dec 25, 2007, 15:12
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Maybe. There are lots of outs for Howard with TD and Phoenix players, so I'm not overly concerned about that.
my main problem with Paul is his outs, not the length of the hold
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| 55 | JMISA
ID: 381123717
Tue, Dec 25, 2007, 18:21
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i really think paul is a must have if u have james ... holding james if u wanna bank the trade is doable but the gains $$ wise and pts wise from cp your gaining 2 games from a player that produces as well as D Howard. If it were a S Marion or a Kobe Bryant i wouldn't be so quick to pimp him but C paul avgs about +5 tsnp a game on the avg stud
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| 57 | Kal Zakath
ID: 269581213
Wed, Dec 26, 2007, 09:18
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I think that the Paul question really depends on what you think you can do with your lineup over the week.
For me:
Iverson - Most likely needs to go this week, the question is when and to whom.
Davis - Hold through 1/2 at least = If holding longer, it becomes at least 1/19.
Wade - The question is whether to hold him past the 29th or not.
Telfair -> Paul for me., Paul then gets traded after the 5th.
Jackson - Hold through 1/2 at least. If holding longer, it becomes at least 1/19.
Li - Hold through 1/6 at least.
McDyess - Possible sell 1/5, but after 3 off, has a 4 in 5. Have to see how he is doing.
X
Howard - Hold through 1/2
Nazr - Hold through beginning of Feb
So, this week = Iverson, Telfair, Bynum.
Nexty week - Paul, McDyess, etc.
Most likely this will mean holding one or more of the optionals for longer, but I think point wise, it will be worth it. There just are not that many great longer schedules out there to support a lot of players. To get a better schedule through this time, the question becomes whether or not you have to give up enough points to make holding the stud through a 1 in 4 worth it.
We're closing in on 2 months into the game - is it time to start holding through the 1 in 4s to start maximizing on those points?
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| 58 | weykool
ID: 2842717
Wed, Dec 26, 2007, 11:36
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Kal:
I think your question is a little too broad.
It all depends on the players involved.
Who is the player you are holding?
What players are available?
Can you triangle back into the player from another player?
Also I dont think we just ignore RV because the month or year changes.
With each day that passes RV becomes a little less important and points become a little more important..
I have never understood the abrupt change of one day it is important and the next we can ignore it.
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| 59 | Yehosh
Donor
ID: 181082023
Wed, Dec 26, 2007, 12:56
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I think RV is still a factor, although not as big as it was on day 1. We're %33 into the season, so most of the schedule is still in front of us.
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| 60 | JMISA
ID: 51115937
Wed, Dec 26, 2007, 16:14
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when trading Bogans+LBJ+Bynum
i got Paul + Yi
i was going to get nazr too but i realized i had enough for Dalembart
should i jus go Dalembart then .... do you think the money will be even between the 2 (since nazr train already is well past midway thru)
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| 61 | weykool
ID: 2842717
Wed, Dec 26, 2007, 17:07
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My guess is Dalembert should make as much or more than Nazr.
Also Nazr had just an average game his last outing so if he underperforms the train could be much shorter than we all had hoped for.
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| 62 | Kal Zakath
ID: 269581213
Wed, Dec 26, 2007, 17:19
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Here's a question -
Do you take Dalembert, Gay, or Granger?
Seems as though the most solid point wise is Gay, though he has the worst schedule of the three (if you hold long enough, it's within a game, just nothing spectacular). Granger seems to be getting ready to lose money with a solid schedule.
Gay's money seems to be made, Granger seems to be about to start losing, so even though I can take a forward or a center, I think I'm going with Dalembert, figuring he is going to make the cash with a solid schedule from those who are getting rid of Bynum. Also, if you hold through the 15th, he's an easy move to Kaman for the hold from heck. It also means that when I move Howard, I'm not stuck with trying to get a center for him.
Hence I am leaning toward Dalembert, though can easily be swayed any way.
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| 63 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Dec 26, 2007, 17:23
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If you do decide on Dalembert, do it soon, as that game starts at 6pm tonight.
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| 64 | JMISA
ID: 51115937
Wed, Dec 26, 2007, 17:25
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I have the same spot open for a 6 mill player like u ..... Dalembart is hte #1 choice by far ... i already have gay and he is probably near his max i will sell him whenever he starts doing bad altho his schedule is still pretty solid ... no b2bs though til 1/10
Dalembarts only competitors in his price range at For C with good schedules would be jason richardson and Brad miller
Dalembart gains 2 games on Miller over his good stretch and Jason richardson is kind of flaky and has the same # of games as Dalembart over 3 weeks
anyway what are the thoughts on Yi in this GMD ... alot of ppl are straying for him as I initially said too .... its jus that his price perfectly fits into what i need > a 3-4 mill F
mcdyess is candidate #2 which would you guys rather go
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| 67 | Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Fri, Dec 28, 2007, 13:17
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how important do you guys think the Bynum move will be on the 3rd?
I'm having a hard time finding a smooth way into him. I can sell Tinsley for him but that seems kind of lateral.
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| 68 | Florian
Dude
ID: 034815289
Fri, Dec 28, 2007, 13:35
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Weykool:
If you want to drop me from your team I wouldn't object at all. It seems that every move that I make on this team is the wrong one. Not only can I not seem to make any money (my non day late teams are all ahead of this one in FV by now), my team isn't accumulating many points either. It's actually getting embarrassing. If you can't find another team you want instead, I certainly will continue to struggle along and hope this team's performance will improve.
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| 69 | weykool
ID: 2842717
Fri, Dec 28, 2007, 15:08
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Florian:
I can fully relate to your struggles.
While my team has not struggled with RV the points have been very difficult to come by.
One of the things that needs to be taken into consideration is potential.
My team is struggling, Guru's team is struggling so you are not alone.
You have proven in the past that you know what you are doing and as of right now I dont want to give the other teams the opportunity to capitalize on your potential.
If it comes down to needing to drop a player I would make every effort to discuss it with them by E-mail before hand.
As of right now I have no plans to drop anyone.
So suck it up and lets get things going in the right direction. J/K of course.
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| 71 | JMISA
ID: 381123717
Sat, Dec 29, 2007, 17:57
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i think i need to rid Gay tonight as he will surely drop big as a top owned guard with no b2bs to redeem him ..... i was planning on holding but foloowing a single digit performance after a bunch of 20s he is def going down .... problem is there is no1 to buy with my cash remaining
my other option is to release wade early tonight since he will be gone tommorrow anyway that gives me 15.2 for players
I can have a combination of these players which would u guys take
JRICH + G WALLACE + A JAMISON + C BUTLER + MAURICE WILLIAMS
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| 72 | C. Bird
ID: 41055623
Sat, Dec 29, 2007, 18:21
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I'm in the same boat JMISA. I wish I could hold Gay but he's a gone. I was thinking of R Jeff. I don't want Wallace. He seems overvalued. His schedule is so good though. Same goes for JRich. Mo Will has been playing great lately and I love Butler and Jamison. I am thinking of getting Butler but it would take up all my cash and I need to upgrade Telfair in the coming week. I was planning on moving Brewer also after tonights game but if he puts up another 25 or so I may just hold for the long term. If I had to choose two from the group above I would go with Butler and Mo Will.
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| 73 | JMISA
ID: 381123717
Sat, Dec 29, 2007, 18:43
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C Bird i jus went over n over the situation in the last hour and i came up with this :
I defintly want to get JRich above any of above since he has the GF Flex and the longest possible hold of the group ... also at under 6 mill i can get 25-30 from hi mand still be content unlike G wallace's high 7 mill tag
I was locked onto Butlet+Jrich but then i looked at Butler's schedule: its decent with 1 less game then CHA or Mil but the thing is he plays detroit + houston next week (shutdown teams) then next week he plays consecutive Boston games lol .... thats never a good thing.... so i opted to go with Mo Will + Jrich instead and that also let me keep wade and get rid of iverson instead.
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| 74 | C. Bird
ID: 41055623
Sat, Dec 29, 2007, 18:45
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JMISA I looked again and for me I am going to make the move to JRich. For some reason I though he was up around $7M not $5.95. He also preserves the G/F flex that Gay offered and he is not widely owned.
I am 99% sure I'm moving Wade for Baron tomorrow. Not sure what to do with Iverson. I want to hold for the 4 in 5. What do you guys think?
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| 75 | C. Bird
ID: 41055623
Sat, Dec 29, 2007, 18:49
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JMISA, I had made my post 74 before I saw your post 73. I'm glad to see that your take was similar to mine. Hopefully we are right and Jrich serves us well.
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| 76 | JMISA
ID: 51115937
Sat, Dec 29, 2007, 21:44
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haha yea J rich gave us a 49 tsnp night .... that should surely jumpt start a good train for him along ith his g/f flex ... wallace did ok too though so he may still run a good train
I'm also glad with my Mo williams desicion over Butler as Mo williams has Butler's tsnp at halftime as well as what i said above about Butler's coming schedule
On the downside .....I ended up holding wade and ridding iverson (im tradelss now) though. As of 6PM Wade looked much better coming off of a 80 pnt game and with a decent schdule for another week after his 2 game hiatus. But now not lookin so good with this poor pperformance tonight i will say he will lose way more $ then iverson.
If u held iverson for tonight you might as well hold through til his 4 in 5 and turn him into D Howard like I was supposed to ...
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| 77 | C. Bird
ID: 41055623
Sun, Dec 30, 2007, 03:34
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I was thinking the same thing. I am going to move Wade for either Baron or Iggy. If AI does well (and he should against GSW) I think he is worth a hold since he has dropped about $100K a day for 3 days now. My issue is what to do with Brewer. I will probably wait until after his game on 1/2 and package him along with Jefferson. Although I could move Wade/Brewer for Iggy & SJax. Thoughts?
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| 81 | weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Tue, Jan 01, 2008, 19:47
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Congrats team WK for winning TP3.
We have moved out of the cellar and are now setting our sights on 2nd place before we begin our assult on the top spot.
I know I have a trade to carry over for the first time in a long time and feel my team is still in a good position.
Happy New Year to everyone.
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| 82 | Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Wed, Jan 02, 2008, 13:59
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Happy New Years everybody!!!
I too have a trade to carry over (finally), so hopefully holding Gay wasn't a horrible decision, I hope he can get things back on track.
Trying to figure out if the Bynum move is worth my while, so far it seems like I'd be forcing it.
Regarding this week, Howard and Boozer to Amare and ??? are my moves. Everything else is up in the air at the moment, especially with the Nazr situation. I'd like to go Howard->Camby->Howard, but if Nazr has to go, that leaves me 1 less trade to work with.
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| 83 | weykool
ID: 2842717
Wed, Jan 02, 2008, 16:15
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Yehosh:
I would not force Bynum.
Not saying that picking him up is a bad move just that I dont see him as a must have, the force part seems not a good thing.
My plan would be to go Howard to TD and back.
Boozer to either Amare or Nash and Nazr to Hill if Nazr stinks it up.
If Nazr can get the minutes he could be held for a long time so I would prefer to hold if at all possible.
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| 84 | Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Wed, Jan 02, 2008, 16:46
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yes, I agree that TD is actually a better option the Camby. If I have to burn another trade for some injury, he can be held long term, whereas Camby has a 1 in 6 after his 4 in 5.
I already have Hill (who is a great option), so if Nazr does stinks it up I'll burn a trade and go Bynum.
That should leave me with 2 trades, one for Paul and the other for injuries or TD->Howard on tuesday if nothing unforseen occurs.
Regarding Paul, I haven't decided yet. To Kobe for 5 in 8 and then Denver player is an option that should net points and RV. I hate picking up guys for stretches like 5 in 8, but I don't see any other worthwhile move at the moment.
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| 87 | kentucky indians
ID: 611511118
Wed, Jan 02, 2008, 22:10
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anybody else thinking Nazr is going to become a train wreck sooner rather than later?
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| 88 | reebbertxx
Leader
ID: 561124720
Wed, Jan 02, 2008, 22:16
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Intruder
KI
Nazr going is set in stone. Only question is where all the buys are going to go.
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| 89 | Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Wed, Jan 02, 2008, 22:20
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kentucky indians, he is toast IMO
18 minutes, 11 tsnp and a player that has already gained $1,300,000 spells CRASH
This is not Rudy Gay putting up a couple of stinkers shooting 3-15, this is a guy not getting enough playing time and being ultra heavily owned. Couple that with Bynum's schedule heating up.
Selling for Bynum tomorrow
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| 90 | C. Bird
ID: 41055623
Wed, Jan 02, 2008, 23:24
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Me too. Nazr is gone for sure. I will probably move brewer, howard, and telfair also.
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| 91 | weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Wed, Jan 02, 2008, 23:43
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Selling Nazr.
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| 92 | weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Wed, Jan 02, 2008, 23:54
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Okay guys....talk me down from the ledge.
I have 5 trades.
Thinking of going:
Baron to Nash
Howard to Amare
Boozer to Hill
Nazr to Duncan
Holding:
Iggy/Salmons/Jian/Telfair/Dalem/Gerald
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| 93 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Jan 03, 2008, 08:59
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| Rank | GurupieName | LSWP0 | LSWP | LSWP5 | WWR | FV | Cash | RV | FVC | Trades | | 1 | Kal Zakath-4430 | 8525.5 | 276 | 276 | 125 | 71.65 | 1.95 | 69.70 | 0.01 | 5 | | 2 | Coach Bird-1379 | 8453.5 | 251 | 251 | 23 | 69.35 | 2.88 | 66.47 | -0.02 | 8 | | 3 | Yehosh-2949 | 8443 | 299 | 299 | 173 | 71.53 | 1.45 | 70.08 | 0.07 | 2 | | 4 | JMISA-6186 | 8384 | 364.5 | 364.5 | 203 | 65.61 | 0.83 | 64.78 | 0.26 | 2 | | 5 | Weykool-4361 | 8242.5 | 347 | 347 | 438 | 70.62 | 2.87 | 67.75 | -0.01 | 2 | | 6 | kentucky indians-2450 | 8187 | 302.5 | 302.5 | 72 | 66.75 | 1.17 | 65.58 | 0.07 | 4 | | 7 | Guru-250 | 8106.5 | 331 | 331 | 519 | 67.43 | 2.94 | 64.49 | 0.00 | 5 | | 8 | Florian-6066 | 8052 | 365.5 | 365.5 | 433 | 67.64 | 1.63 | 66.01 | 0.03 | 3 |
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