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Subject: Team Bandwagon GMD (TP6)
Posted by: The Bandwagon
- Sustainer [479521116] Thu, Jan 31, 2008, 15:36
Nice work once again. We've increased our lead to 1800 points. Like the Patriots, let's keep running up the score ;) |
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| 47 | The Bandwagon@work
ID: 14151110
Tue, Feb 05, 2008, 22:45
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SU, I think Miller will play tomorrow, but it would probably be safer to get Kaman tonight then upgrade Daniels to Miller tomorrow.
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| 48 | reebbertxx
Leader
ID: 561124720
Tue, Feb 05, 2008, 22:56
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46, I didn't forget.
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| 49 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Wed, Feb 06, 2008, 05:45
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Ugh, it doesn't look like I'll have enough to move into both Miller and Calderon early. I'll be just short. I really wish I had taken Ilgauskas right now. I'm assuming Calderon is priority #1, as I can get Miller at the end of the week.
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| 50 | Pica
Sustainer
ID: 161141312
Wed, Feb 06, 2008, 08:02
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arrrrr, Butler really screwed me up. The Wiz beat writer suggested he's likely out tonight. I was having second thoughts as I was doing the trade, and keep on there's a chance that he returned too quickly and he could reinjure himself anytime. Should've listen to my gut feeling.
So, luckily the Wizards had the earliest start tonight and I could move him to Kaman, Dirk, or even Gasol to replicate the Lakers triangle offence on my team.
I'm leaning towards Kaman because 1. he's the cheapest. 2. his last game is an encouraging sign. His lower price tag would serve handy to upgrade Nate (who I have to deal with if DNPs again) and/or Carter.
What do you guys think?
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| 52 | tothreeball
Dude
ID: 09118139
Wed, Feb 06, 2008, 11:47
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After missing Duncan yesterday, I've moved Daniels/Jamison to Rondo/Gasol. I think I'm interested in Brandon Roy and Calderon over the next few days from Deron and Boone. Then I can sit tight with no trades necessitated by schedule until the ASB, and somewhat beyond.
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| 53 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Wed, Feb 06, 2008, 15:22
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Pica, I agree with the Kaman choice.
Looks like no moves for me today, as I'm locked out of Brad Miller until Tuesday thanks to last night's debacle, unless I want to skip Calderon. Which I don't.
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| 55 | The Bandwagon
Sustainer
ID: 479521116
Thu, Feb 07, 2008, 15:11
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Quiet around here! I went Nate to Darko. Darko and Kwame are the only 2 big men in Mempho now, and Darko has been great the past 3 games without Gasol, plus he's only 2 million.
I like that option better than Kobe to Roy, Nate to Gay.
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| 56 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Thu, Feb 07, 2008, 15:23
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I have a huge dilemma as always, and now it's even more complicated once you throw in the Kobe factor.
Right now I have four trades, and my "original" plan had me using two tonight (Daniels and Cassell to Calderon and Gay - it's an early move but I think it could pay off) and then on Tuesday going Duncan and Jamison to Paul and Brad Miller.
But then I thought it over last night, figured something would probably go wrong, and maybe I should hold off on Cassell to Gay. Of course Cassell decides to get a flagrant 2 and could possible be suspended? Maybe I should just move him to Calderon and stick it out with Daniels for three more games and hope he does something with that PHO and GSW back to back.
But now it seems people are losing interest in Kobe, so maybe I have to throw that into the mix. Roy is certainly tempting and this would finally give me the in I needed for him, but at the same time that would mean holding either Cassell or Daniels into next week and missing out on Gay. It's a really ugly situation, and this doesn't even take into account the fact that Marvin Williams has decided to stink beyond belief.
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| 57 | tothreeball
Dude
ID: 09118139
Thu, Feb 07, 2008, 15:46
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Senator, I'm sure Kobe starts selling off tonight. Unless he puts up a few huge games, Kobe to Paul on 12th will likely be a popular move as well. I'm going to hold for now and probably move Kobe on the 12th. For you, Daniels will likely leak less than Kobe, or if you move Daniels, you could likely hold Duncan past the 12th if you really need to move Kobe (Or Marvin).
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| 58 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Thu, Feb 07, 2008, 15:54
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Yeah, if I do Kobe to Roy, I would no longer need to sell Duncan this week.
So in theory I could do Kobe to Roy, Cassell or Daniels to Calderon tonight. And then in a few days move the other one to Paul and Jamison to Brad Miller. This would leave me with a roster of:
Paul, Roy, Marvin, Calderon
Lebron, Duncan, Dirk, Smith
Kaman, Miller
This leads to two (or three or four issues though)
1) What do I do with Duncan at that point? My original-original plan had me moving him into Kaman but now I already have him. He'll probably take a good hit on Tuesday also.
2) I should have money to upgrade Marvin, but can I really even do that with his amazing schedule?
3) What if Kobe just fooled us these past two games?
4) If something else goes wrong, then that puts Paul and Miller up in the air.
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| 59 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Thu, Feb 07, 2008, 17:32
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Argh, I can't find a way to sell Kobe that makes any sense at all. That Roy plan just went out the window.
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| 60 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Thu, Feb 07, 2008, 17:50
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You know what, I'm holding Kobe. No matter what I do I'll lose money somewhere, so might as well be from the guy with big game potential and use my FV to an advantage. If he puts up 50 tomorrow, we're back on track until Tuesday at least when he can easily be moved instead of Duncan for Paul. If I made a move now and someone else went down, I'd be kicking myself.
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| 61 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Thu, Feb 07, 2008, 18:54
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So...
A) 3 Kobe, 4 Gay
B) 6 Baron
It begins again.
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| 62 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Thu, Feb 07, 2008, 20:20
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I really want to do the Baron thing. I think all that's holding me back right now is the chance that something else will go wrong. While both "plans" are the same number of trades, the hold Kobe one delays one of them until Tuesday. The Baron plan leaves me exactly two trades for the rest of the week, which are reserved for Daniels and Jamison to Paul and Miller. Those are must moves. Argh.
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| 63 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Thu, Feb 07, 2008, 22:35
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Argh, I couldn't pull the trigger on it. If I had one more trade I would have, but I couldn't risk a more pressing injury taking place and thus preventing me from getting Paul or Miller (and holding Daniels or Jamison). I figured something has gone wrong every night for the past three weeks, and the ASB is tricky because certain players may rest a bit more. Plus the lineups weren't out and I didn't want to risk a surprise DNP. I think above all else, making sure Paul and Miller are on my roster and Jamison and Daniels are off on Tuesday trumps everything.
There's no news on Kobe missing any time, so hopefully he'll come back from a couple off games tomorrow and make holding worth it. Hopefully the Roy news will soften the hits, because honestly I just spent the past 6 hours (well 5, I had to watch Lost) trying to make a Kobe sell work and the only option that had a chance was Baron.
I'm feel like I'm going to regret this already.
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| 64 | tothreeball
Dude
ID: 09118139
Thu, Feb 07, 2008, 22:57
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Wow, was set to go Boone/Deron to Calderon/Roy. Went Deron to Calderon, will wait for news on Roy and pick him up fom Boone when I know he'll play.
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| 65 | The Bandwagon
Sustainer
ID: 479521116
Fri, Feb 08, 2008, 01:38
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You the man SU. Too bad I'm at work when you get in the zone. I bet the keyboard looks like 12x12 floor tiles when you're zoning!
I wish I had the extra 2.5 million, I would've loved to have taken Gay over Darko, but I think Darko's good for 25+ per game with Gasol out of town.
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| 67 | tothreeball
Dude
ID: 09118139
Fri, Feb 08, 2008, 13:14
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Looking to move Boone to Brandon Roy today or tomorrow. New Jersey plays tonight at 7pm EST, and I'm not sure I'm around at gametime. Any word on Roy playing tonight?
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| 68 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Fri, Feb 08, 2008, 15:17
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The last I heard is that Roy is doubtful for tonight, attending to a personal matter.
I'm already regretting my last second chickening out on Kobe to Baron. I really hope Kobe has a huge game tonight.
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| 69 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Fri, Feb 08, 2008, 15:53
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Rotoworld has Roy out tonight now due to a death in the family.
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| 70 | tothreeball
Dude
ID: 09118139
Fri, Feb 08, 2008, 19:54
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Thanks Senator, I appreciate the heads up. I had 2 minutes around 4:30 for a quick check and saw Roy was out tonight. I've held Boone and will likely move to Roy in the morning.
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| 72 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Sat, Feb 09, 2008, 02:18
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Looks like Daniels is the new problem. I was tempted to sell him for Gay today and take the 2 vs 3, but figured I should play it safe in case someone else went down and also so I could give myself the flexibility in case I wanted someone else in a couple days instead. Whoops.
I guess we have to wait for more news, I'm wondering though if I should take the 1 Gay game late as opposed to that dream back to back for Daniels regardless. I was considering taking Roy instead but now he's out tomorrow and I can't afford him straight up from Daniels.
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| 74 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Sat, Feb 09, 2008, 14:21
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I think I'm going to be holding Daniels today. I just came up with an alternate plan to my original one that looks worse yet somehow pretty much breaks even for three saved trades, and the only way I can do it is by holding Daniels until Tuesday. It's amazing what doing the math reveals sometimes, I keep thinking there's a mistake but I've checked it over a lot. The plans are of course very tentative as there are a LOT of ugly transitions, but those same transitions exist in both so they can be compared at least. I'm going to run a few more possible routes just to be safe. Everything seems to indicate Daniels is going to play though, and though he's clearly not 100% you can't beat a PHO-GSW back to back.
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| 75 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Sat, Feb 09, 2008, 14:41
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Sure enough I found a mistake, but it still makes sense. Two saved trades instead of three.
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| 76 | dpr
ID: 1733917
Sat, Feb 09, 2008, 15:55
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alright so i dont have that many good options into Kaman. Right now i'm leaning towards moving Jamison into him but not till after the ASB to maximize games. With my current plans I wont have much extra money so what do you guys think are the odds Kaman's price exceeds jamisons next week?
(this plan has me holding Kobe and with a different alternative to DWill I can free up more cash if needed)
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| 77 | dpr
ID: 1733917
Sat, Feb 09, 2008, 16:43
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alright I will divulge more of my plan because it is more in question than I had previously thought. I was thinking move deron to Pau then TD to paul on 2/12 and jamison to 2/20 with the money being tight potentially on this last trade.
Im now realizing that I like Bosh more than Pau because of the cheaper price tag and potential to be held longer. He loses a game to pau thru 2/29 but can be held 3 weeks longer. Unfortunately by moving to Bosh i cant move TD to paul till after the break when I get kaman to fill my center spot. I could trade 2 jamison and 2 duncan for 1 kaman and 2 Paul which would lose like 30 pts to get on the price changes earlier.
I would rather not sell Kobe because from 2/12 thru 2/29 no one outpoints him who isnt on my team already tho I may consider moving him to Aljeff at a lose of 20 pts thru 2/29 as Aljeff can be held longer an then I can move jamison to Paul before the break which will gain 20pts and $. Kobe was a nice reentry into TD tho but nowitzi and LBJ could also serve this purpose (or whoever gets injured)
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| 78 | qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Sat, Feb 09, 2008, 16:47
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*intruder
current difference in price is 0.68...i think you have to figure at least a 100K swing a day, with more on tuesday due to big losses from jamison.
so i think the odds are very good that kaman's price exceeds jamison's by next week
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| 79 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Sun, Feb 10, 2008, 08:30
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Wow, I'm getting nervous now. Last night I had a +620 window for my plan, now it's down to +270 in one night. Unbelievable.
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| 80 | Soulman
Donor
ID: 016105313
Sun, Feb 10, 2008, 08:57
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* intruder *
Same here Senator, my window for post-ASB moves shrunk to a third within one night. No way it's gonna hold up, I think I need to include a cheaper option somewhere.
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| 82 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Sun, Feb 10, 2008, 10:23
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My problem is that I have plenty of room for all of my post ASB moves, the only issue I have is the first day - this upcoming Tuesday. If I don't make that window, then I have to use my fall back plan which costs an extra trade for probably no benefit, and furthermore would have made sense to start yesterday and take Gay's game and money swing vs. Daniels. Ugh. I'm really hoping the Washington back to back against PHO and GSW stops the Jamison bleeding and minimizes Daniels' losses. And I'm also hoping people buy back into Kobe and that Brad Miller and Paul see any sort of losses / stagnation with the two days off.
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| 83 | Soulman
Donor
ID: 016105313
Sun, Feb 10, 2008, 14:01
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Senator, with Daniels being a GTD, I wouldn't count on golden matchups minimizing his losses. Also, I don't see why anyone in their right mind would trade Brad today, if in two days everyone who doesn't have him will buy in. So I think it's a good thing that you have a basically viable backup plan.
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| 84 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Mon, Feb 11, 2008, 05:44
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Alright, a Daniels DNP and the window only shrinks to 230k. This is going to be so close...
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| 86 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Mon, Feb 11, 2008, 17:03
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So my #1 plan has that 230k window, and I think it has a real shot at holding tonight. It's going to be close. But now I also have a bad feeling about that plan, especially with how Kobe's been playing great since those two bad games. Can I really trade Kobe? It projects pretty close but there are a lot of variables. If I hold Kobe, it would make sense to hold all the way until 3/5 so I could see some really damaging money hits.
The transitions in the hold Kobe plan are extremely awkward, along the lines of "give up one player four games early for no games gained, and all games on the same nights" type. And of course, with the hold Kobe plan, selling Daniels for Gay tonight for the possible price swing would be extremely helpful in a week. But at the same time if I commit to Gay now, I throw out the best version of my sell Kobe plan.
Maybe I should just wait for more information, a lot of important guys are playing tonight and an injury to one of them tonight could change things drastically. I'd hate to lock myself into something in that situation.
Are you guys holding or selling Kobe?
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| 87 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Mon, Feb 11, 2008, 17:20
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**intruder**
Holding Kobe
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| 88 | Gescom
Leader
ID: 520461315
Mon, Feb 11, 2008, 17:41
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intruder
Selling tomorrow unless an injury tonight forces to reevaluate.
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| 89 | tothreeball
Dude
ID: 09118139
Mon, Feb 11, 2008, 17:49
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Senator, I'm leaning towards moving Kobe to Paul tomorrow. Production could be similar, my RV is mid 70's so he extra 2 million may come in handy elsewhere.
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| 90 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Mon, Feb 11, 2008, 17:57
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I should note that no matter what Paul is in the equation. It's just whether Kobe or Duncan turns into him tomorrow. If I get Kobe, I'd also be getting Gay, probably for a long time.
One of the main things that annoys me about the hold Kobe plan is that there's no clean Bosh transition. I'd have to force him early.
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| 91 | dpr
ID: 1733917
Mon, Feb 11, 2008, 22:13
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Havent decided on Kobe myself. Hard to sell a player when no one really outpoints him over the next two weeks. On the other hand he is my only way into Paul tomorrow as I dont ahve enough from jamison and Duncan is required at center. I could move both and get Paul and another center but then kaman will be hard to fit in later. If I keep kobe I have to keep jamison past the ASB also so he can transition into kaman whereas if I sell I can move jamison tomorrow. right now I am leaning towards moving Kobe because while I dont feel I will be gaining points I should be gaining significant $
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| 92 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Mon, Feb 11, 2008, 22:17
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Daniels is out. Looks like I have to decide whether or not to commit to Kobe now...
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| 93 | dpr
ID: 1733917
Mon, Feb 11, 2008, 22:31
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am I crazy to risk Camby as a center stopgap if I choose the keep Kobe plan? This way I can move Jamison before the break and also get into Paul so I will get back some money gains. Its an extra trade but it it projects 65 points better so definitely worth it Camby can be healthy. Im leaning this way now but a Camby injury would really hurt. That said I only need 3 games out of him and with the allstar break he is unlikely to take games off to just rest.
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| 94 | tothreeball
Dude
ID: 09118139
Mon, Feb 11, 2008, 23:20
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dpr, Camby has acknowledged playing a bit banged up lately (knee), and has recently missed time. The DNP risk in a back to back situation is worth considering. The problem is those DNP's may not provide much warning. Given his ironman status, I'd be careful.
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| 95 | dpr
ID: 1733917
Mon, Feb 11, 2008, 23:39
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yea I know I just figure with him having 5 days off after the second game of the back to back he is likely to play. Also he is playing against orlando who is a good team and also has Howard who is beating him in rebounding and he may wnt to make a statement. id be mroe worried about him missing MIA
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| 96 | tothreeball
Dude
ID: 09118139
Mon, Feb 11, 2008, 23:52
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Good points, that is what makes it an interesting risk/reward scenario. The upcoming 5 days off should be a factor.
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| 97 | Pica
Sustainer
ID: 161141312
Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 06:34
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Havn't chimed in for the last few days because of the Chinese New Year, it's time to rededicate myself to fantasy hoops.
The biggest active bet that I am making is skipping Calderon. It hasn't hurt all that much point wise but it means I'm missing out about 1m about the last week. Now that Ford is out with another injury (not as serious as the previous) I just maybe finally joining the Calderon camp.
Everybody will be getting Paul today, one way or the other. My stubborness of not trading Kobe for Paul (which would mean I'd have gotten Calderon from Carter already) means I'm trading Jamison for Paul today. I'm feeling aggressive and may toss in a second move of TD > someone that has a cross-ASB 4in5 and eventually end up with Roy on the 21st. The pool isn't all that great and no one jumps out at this point though. In either case, I should be getting Calderon from Carter on the 20th, pending more Ford injury news.
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| 99 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 17:20
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That Camby thing is a tough one. I LOVE gambling with him for some reason, even though just about every time I get burned somehow. If you didn't take Camby, who would your second choice be?
The thing that actually makes me nervous is the ASB. What would worry me is if he's not feeling 100% and Karl just figures, "Might as well shut him down and give him the long week, rather than risking something longterm."
I'd probably go for it, especially if it means getting out of Jamison now and having the team you want. You only need him for three games. That being said, a couple years ago I (foolishly) planned this huge complicated rotation around Camby near the end of the season. It would have worked even if he missed a game or two near the end of it, I just needed him to really make it for two games. And he didn't.
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| 100 | dpr
ID: 81531217
Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 18:56
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the second choice is to hold Duncana and jamison til after the break and move to kaman and paul then so i would ahve the same end result just more points and more money but more risk with camby. Or I could move Kobe to Aljeff allowing me to go jamison to paul also today and hold duncan to go to kaman after the break. right now camby is in my roster so unless I have news in the next 5 minutes he stays. i ahve class so i cant wait til gametime to makesure camby is in tonight
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| 101 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 19:21
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I'm not sure how it works out with your rotations, but both the Camby and the Jefferson plans seem good. I'm personally keeping Kobe, after thinking long and hard about moving him to Jefferson. I'd probably drive myself crazy all day and then end up going for it.
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| 102 | dpr
ID: 1733917
Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 21:46
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man i looked at half time for the first time and was like wat did i do? 35+ second half makes me a little more confident
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| 103 | Pica
Sustainer
ID: 161141312
Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 23:10
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Carter is practically useless now and I am sick of carrying a dead spot at this juncture of the season. Might as well just get rid of him for Calderon tomorrow, and take a game loss. It might works out even tsnp wise.
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| 107 | The Bandwagon
Sustainer
ID: 479521116
Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 09:28
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