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Subject: Team Bandwagon GMD (TP7)
Posted by: The Bandwagon
- Sustainer [479521116] Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 11:27
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| 1 | dpr
ID: 551302010
Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 11:45
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had planned to move camby to kaman but now not sure what to do. Not many other center options that I like. stoudemire doesnt make sense as camby could even outpoint him 4 games to 5. Dont really see anyone who is set to outpoint camby. considering maybe going to chandler but thats a pretty risky play. also without moving camby i dont really have any good options out of carter who I would like to move due to his production and that he blocks a gaurd spot for dirk to deron. i could hold carter a few more days and package him with dirk. one option would be a cheap center and then an expensive player out of carter but cheap center arent the best options. Any centers people see that they like. Camby was great while I had him but I am not sure I like him as a longterm option.
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| 2 | The Bandwagon
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ID: 479521116
Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 14:40
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Tough one DPR, atleast Camby has been a monster for you the last 3 games.
I had planned to get both Bosh and Kaman this week. I had planned for Kaman being my Darko upgrade, but I'll take Bosh instead and hold Darko (yuck) until Kaman is ready.
Darko played great the first 3 games without Gasol, but it was short lived and I read today where he's lost his confidence again. I assume he's on his way out of the NBA as soon as his contract expires.
Signing Darko this offseason is another reason Memphis needs to fire Chris Wallace before we lose the franchise.
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| 3 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 15:45
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This Kaman news is annoying and of course he has the late game. Best course of action for me is probably sticking with the original plan unfortunately and grabbing Bosh at 7 pm, and hoping Kaman plays. Problem is I'll be priced out of any good replacements. I basically have Kaman's value to work with.
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| 4 | tothreeball
Dude
ID: 09118139
Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 17:18
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Seeing that I am sitting on a career high in trades, I think I'll move Kaman to Bosh. If not a gain on points, it will certainly be a $$$ winner. I can find a way back to Kaman when he proves his production is back to what it was earlier in the season.
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| 8 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Sun, Feb 24, 2008, 07:55
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Well this sucks, what are you guys doing about Kaman? I only have 190k for an upgrade, so 7.23 total and it has to be a center. Since I already have Brad Miller, every option looks terrible.
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| 9 | Winston
ID: 260112810
Sun, Feb 24, 2008, 09:14
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I will downgrade Kaman to either Watson or Moon then move Gay to D.William the next day.
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| 10 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Sun, Feb 24, 2008, 10:33
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It seems like the only two realistic options for me from Kaman are Aldridge and Chandler. Neither thrills me at all. Technically I'd only "need" them until I get Duncan back from Kobe in a few days, so if they're really terrible I can move them next week for a non-center.
Kaman of course has the late game tomorrow night, so waiting to see if he's in isn't a possibility. Ideally I'd like to just hold him, but it will come at a price and back injuries always seem to be a recipe for disaster.
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| 11 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Sun, Feb 24, 2008, 10:35
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Or I could really gamble and hope Ben Wallace has a huge game and gets out of gravity...
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| 12 | dpr
ID: 1733917
Sun, Feb 24, 2008, 11:46
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not sure what I am going to do either. remind me why I moved camby to him a few days ago? didnt even use the extra cash. o yea because I thought camby was an injury risk. theres 2 wasted trades. SU I have a little more money then you do so I considering going from Amare into Duncan. Kobe was going to be transition into Duncan but moving to Ginobili looks good too. not quite enough for ALjeff or I would consider that. None of the other centers really interest me that much.
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| 14 | The Bandwagon
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ID: 479521116
Sun, Feb 24, 2008, 13:18
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Yesterday I drew up a 3 week plan, and today I threw it away and the two hours it took. Thanks Kaman!
Jefferson/Amare/Gasol are the only options I'm considering. It all depends on what I want to do in the short term. I think I'll just draw up a 5 day plan this time ;)
SU, I think I like Aldridge better. He's been playing pretty good lately and I like his schedule better than Chandler's. I don't think his 1 in 4 will affect his price much since no one has him.
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| 15 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Sun, Feb 24, 2008, 13:32
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Yeah I think I'm going to go Aldridge, and then once I move Kobe for Duncan I can either sell him for Ginobili, or take two more Aldridge games and move him for Iverson.
I do in theory have the option of moving Gay for a cheap forward and taking Al Jefferson, but it doesn't seem worth it since I've already lost so much on Gay and would require more trades. I bought Gay with the intention of holding him forever through the losses, so it would feel crazy to sell low right now.
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| 17 | The Bandwagon
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ID: 479521116
Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 11:52
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Hmm, I guess making a 5 day plan doesn't work either. Maybe I'll start making my plans "day to day" no pun intended Mr. Roy.
I guess I was due for some injuries. I've been lucky so far this season, and dodged the majority of the injuries and flu bugs. The injury bug got me twice this week though (Kaman/Roy).
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| 18 | Pica
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ID: 161141312
Tue, Feb 26, 2008, 05:17
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BW, I had planned to get Roy from JJ a couple games ago and heard Roy was questionable so I held off. Then Roy blew up for 50+ at that game and left me felt like an idiot while JJ has done nothing in that cross ASB 4in5 stretch. But lately he's been decent, perhaps thanks to Bibby's arrival. So I'm lucky dodging Roy on this term.
On the other hand, got Chandler from Kaman and he's been awful ever since, but at least healthy. I'll likely dump him for Duncan on Thursday. I have yet to decide where the extra funding would come from though.
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| 19 | tothreeball
Dude
ID: 09118139
Tue, Feb 26, 2008, 10:46
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I have some extra cash around, and not liking what I see with Calderon/Ford, I think I'll move Calderon to Deron today.
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| 24 | Pica
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ID: 161141312
Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 02:13
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Calderon is gone today. I'm not sure who I can get from him as I don't have enough cash to get Manu straight up. Bibby looks really enticing and the Hawk schedule is as good as the Raptors.
And is Lebron a hold to everyone? I was on the fence to begin with and now he apparently has an ankle injury and declares himself questionable. Tough decision...
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| 25 | dpr
ID: 1733917
Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 02:42
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yea I am pretty much the same situation as you with Calderon having to do and not much money. My first choice was Monta ellis. If ellis keeps up his 40/g even if Bibby can average 30/g he will outproduce bibby 60 points til the end of his schedule. I think this is worth having to trade out earlier.
But with the news that Lebron is potentially injured and the possibility of a trade anyways (which I wasnt planning on) I think I'm gunna move Lebron allowing me to get Ginobili who is a player I actually want. Kobe will also fit nicely back into Lebron after the 2 days off. Not sure where i'm going from Lebron yet, either marion or dirk with likely dirk becoming marion or wade after his 4 in 5. (i cant hold if i want money to get back into Lebron, wade may be tight too). So an extra trade for the extra stud game makes dirk the likely pick up.
Seems a similar rotation could be good for you. Tho I guess you can't gain on me if we move the same but not sure that line of thinking makes all that much sense
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| 26 | Pica
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ID: 161141312
Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 02:54
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I thought of Ellis too, actually I wanted him abuot 3 weeks ago but backed out of it for a safer option. And then he went on a tear. Oh well. I'm not that excited about Monta on this stretch because 1. he's only a 6 game hold and 2. 4 of the 6 games are on the road and which Monta has a big dropoff in production. Monta has a big differentiation between home and away games. He's more like a half-priced Baron playing at home but like Jax on the road.
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| 27 | tothreeball
Dude
ID: 09118139
Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 12:00
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I'm thinking of moving Lebron for Duncan. I was going to move Kobe to Duncan on 3/1, but given Lebron's ankle, I'm leaning towards 4 Duncan games versus 2 Lebron (assuming Lebron plays tomorrow), and can pick Lebron back up from Kobe 3/5. Will Kobe's losses 3/1 exceed Lebron's tonight? I think people were going to sell LBJ tonight before the ankle, the injury can't help his holders.
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| 29 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 15:51
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So I'm planning on moving Lebron and Calderon today.
I haven't drafted up a formal plan yet, I'll do that in an hour or so. But I was thinking about either going with Duncan and Ginobili, or going with Duncan and (...) Kidd. Both make me nervous.
If I do take Ginobili, I have the option of upgrading Aldridge to Marion. The only downside to that is I'd be locking in Marion over Iverson right now. Originally I was getting both, but Ginobili would be taking up that roster spot.
Any thoughts?
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| 30 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 18:02
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I'm realizing I can only have two out of three of Ginobili, Marion, and Iverson. If I decide on Ginobili and Marion, it would probably make sense to move Aldridge for Marion today since it's just a case of 3 Aldridge vs. 3 Marion - it's that simple.
A) Ginobili and Marion
B) Ginobili and Iverson
C) Marion and Iverson
A and B are extremely similar. Comes down to three Marion and Marion for the long haul vs. 3 Aldridge and Iverson for the long haul
Plan C is the wildcard - I'd take Kidd instead of Ginobili today, and essentially transition him and Aldridge into Iverson and Marion. In this one I'd be able to hold Miller an extra game before "downgrading" to Andre Miller, assuming I can overcome a -160k window which I think is very possible.
Maybe this should be the night I split my three teams up, it's just a week or two earlier than I usually do so and I don't feel mentally prepared to do so. With all these injuries, maybe planning three routes isn't a good idea right now.
Which of the three do you guys prefer? My biggest concern with Ginobili is inflated expectations combined with the return of Parker. On the other hand, this could be covered under the Gerald Wallace Theorem - with that schedule, do I want to be the guy not owning him if he goes off?
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| 31 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 18:44
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Meh, forget C. And I don't think I can go without Marion, look at that schedule.
A is probably the winner here, though it kills me not taking my favorite player of all time when having the option to do so. If I took Iverson I'd pretty much be forced into Camby, Iverson, and Carmelo vs. Camby, Marion, and Mcgrady/Carmelo. I don't know if having all three Nuggets is a good idea.
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| 32 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 05:44
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Ended up going with A, but right now I'm regretting it. At least every option stunk last night. Kind of wish I had held Aldridge and took Iverson over Marion at the end of the week right now though...
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| 33 | The Bandwagon
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ID: 479521116
Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 12:43
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SU, with 4 of a kind.
Sorry bro I was very busy at work last night so I didn't get a chance to respond. I would've voted C, but it's too late now. I work the horrid 3 pm to 11 pm shift.
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| 35 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 15:30
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C looked really good, after bringing it out a couple weeks though it would have gotten me into some flex and money trouble and cost me a couple extra trades. I knew Ginobili was going to be hit or miss, hopefully he can turn it around. I'm more upset about moving Aldridge to Marion right now, suddenly waiting for Iverson seems like the right move. A 50 from both Ginobili and Marion would be great next game.
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| 36 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Sat, Mar 01, 2008, 09:57
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Looks like Bosh has to go.
I could either do the straight-forward thing and move him to Amare, or get fancy and try to take a cheaper forward that would give me the flex and money to take Iverson on Wednesday. Right now if I get Amare I can't get Iverson, unless I can magically overcome a 300k window that would let me take him instead of Mcgrady.
I'm assuming I should just get Amare, as things change every day.
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| 38 | tothreeball
Dude
ID: 09118139
Sat, Mar 01, 2008, 13:31
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What are the team's thoughts on Bosh, as 6 of us own him. I'm considering moving him back to Lebron.
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| 39 | Gary D
ID: 3503650
Sat, Mar 01, 2008, 14:28
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Bosh- Amare for me.....
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| 41 | dpr
ID: 1733917
Sat, Mar 01, 2008, 14:54
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Well if I move I guess it will be to Amare. Not to pysched about his schedule tho. Its 4-3-3 till his schedule gets good. Bosh has 2 extra games in that period. Might consider going cheaper so that i can fit in Camby Iverson and Lebron at the end of the week. Tho Camby wouldn't be necessary if I got Amare. His production will certainly beat anyone elses tho so its hard to see me avoiding Camby despite the risks. Im hoping for some positive news from Bosh so that i can hold him.
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| 42 | dpr
ID: 1733917
Sat, Mar 01, 2008, 15:16
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ok bosh not expected to play guess im getting stoudemire
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| 45 | The Bandwagon
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ID: 479521116
Mon, Mar 03, 2008, 12:20
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DPR, great job the last couple of weeks. I've just about given up hope of ever catching you. I got it down to double digits a few times, but your move of Camby, and his monster games right before All-Star break, and holding Kobe has pretty much buried me.
I'm going to shift my focus to staying ahead of the pack thats just behind me. Congrads on your great season.
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| 46 | dpr
ID: 1733917
Mon, Mar 03, 2008, 12:24
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Well its far from over yet. I keep imagining scenarios where you your teams with 10 trades somehow find a way to use each trade for 75pt/trade and blow past me. short of that still i still think you have a good shot. The last few weeks especially can be crazy and with you having multiple shots to get the right guy that good be the difference. Anyways good luck
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| 47 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Tue, Mar 04, 2008, 17:45
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Is anyone else selling Paul today? This is making me really nervous. I hate not having him, but I'm kind of boxed in. If I don't sell him, I miss Lebron or Camby.
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| 48 | Soulman
Donor
ID: 016105313
Tue, Mar 04, 2008, 18:27
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I am. I need the 250-300k swing that will surface between CP3 and LBJ tonight.
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| 49 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Tue, Mar 04, 2008, 18:31
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Yeah I think I have to sell him for Camby tonight, and take Lebron tomorrow from Kobe. I realize now that holding Paul for those three would mean missing both Lebron and Camby, and I could only get one if I downgrade Brad Miller as opposed to going lateral or upgrading. I bought Paul with the intention of selling today, I still don't like it.
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| 50 | Soulman
Donor
ID: 016105313
Tue, Mar 04, 2008, 18:44
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I don't like missing Paul games either, but he's the only one of next week's scheduled sells not having a game tonight, so he's the only way into the significant LBJ gains we will already experience today.
So by saying I 'need' that swing I meant it will raise my chance of doing further moves which currently are hanging by a thread money-wise. Hopefully Paul doesn't blow up in any of these three but his previous games against ATL and NJN this season were less than spectacular (especially the ATL one), so here's hope he shows more of the same next week.
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| 52 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Wed, Mar 05, 2008, 05:50
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If selling a generally disappointing, over-valued Ginobili today were the only way to get the amazing, under-valued Iverson, would you do it?
Ginobili's 36 last night was exactly the number needed to make this a real debate, ugh.
I wish I went with the Kidd plan instead now. My gut was strangely telling me Kidd, but all the math I did showed Manu was the best option. Oh well.
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| 53 | deejay
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ID: 501182710
Wed, Mar 05, 2008, 06:48
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Intruder
Dont tell you are going to pick up Kidd, SU?
Please?
Very please?
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| 54 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Wed, Mar 05, 2008, 07:00
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*** Intruder ***
I don't think that's what he meant deejay.
But I might be inclined to sell the generally disappointing, schedule sucking Gay, instead of Gino
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| 55 | deejay
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ID: 501182710
Wed, Mar 05, 2008, 07:11
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I know, Dave, Just teasing him a bit. :)
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| 56 | The Bandwagon
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ID: 479521116
Wed, Mar 05, 2008, 10:20
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| 57 | The Bandwagon
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ID: 479521116
Wed, Mar 05, 2008, 11:57
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Bibby had 13.5 TSNP's after the first quarter last night. I took my dinner break, and when I returned, the game was over. I eagerly checked out the Atl boxscore only to see that Bibby managed another 4.5 TSNP's over the last 3 quarters. That dinner I had just ate suddenly didn't taste so well.
SU, I'd go for it.
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| 58 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Wed, Mar 05, 2008, 17:26
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I think I'm probably going to. I bought Manu with the idea that I'd regret it more if he went off and I didn't take him, as opposed to taking him during one of his cold spells. Unless he goes off on one of those ridiculous tears these next four games, he'll probably have to go on Tuesday anyway and the options that day look terrible. Might as well get the player / entire team that I want today. Anyone opposed?
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| 59 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Thu, Mar 06, 2008, 05:47
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So far so good with Iverson.
Marion on the other hand...
This isn't going to be fun. I don't know how I can sell him with that schedule and potential for big games, but it looks like those first few games in Miami were a tease. Hopefully last night was just a real off one for the whole team.
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| 60 | Choir
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Sat, Jul 21, 2012, 02:21
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Every guy on the Knicks starting five could drop 20 with some reralugity. Marbury and Randolph can score 20 with one hand tied behind their back playing on a rolling bed of coals with Vegas showgirls in the first row. Then there's Crawford. Q can light it up and Curry's capacity goes without saying.I believe this team will go as far as its energy and enthusiasm will carry it. I heard Q in an offseason interview with the Knicks announcers and he seemed like The Guy. He doesn't need to score. He knows he can score. He knows he can play D. He knows he can lead. He also knows the game very well. I would feel VERY comfortable if it emerged that Q's leadership role was a vital part of shaping the team.Teams have to leadership from somewhere. I don't know enough about the other players to know how they response to all the challenges of being in the league and playing this game at the top level but Q appears to have all the pieces. In some respects, his responses reminded me of Garnett.There is something to be said for men who exude a sense of calm in the face of adversity and change. If this team wins, many people will have to recalibrate their theses on what constitutes a good team and who these young men really are.
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