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0 Subject: RIHC 2008-09: Qualifying Leagues

Posted by: Guru
- [330592710] Wed, Sep 17, 2008, 16:27

It's time to begin organizing the qualifying leagues for the RotoGuru Invitational Hoops Challenge.

Last year, we had 2 AAA leagues and 1 AA league. We will continue with a pair of AAA leagues this year, but we can have as many AA leagues as needed to fill the demand. Each league should have 12 managers, and each league will need a commissioner. Rules will be the same as the RIHC, as spelled out in the RIHC preseason discussion thread.

AAA league slots are open only for those who have qualified by playing in the RIHC or a qualifying league last season. There are 24 slots to fill. I believe that the following guidelines form the best qualifications for filling those slots:

1. RIHC managers not invited to the RIHC this year (7)
2. AAA managers ranked 4th-8th (10)
3. AA managers ranked 2nd-8th (7)

This list includes 24 managers, but there will probably be a few who decline to participate this year. If so, the remaining slots should be filled by those finishing 9th in the AAA leagues (2), followed by those finishing 9th (1) in the AA league. If more AAA slots are open, they may be offered to any returning QL manager, regardless of league or rank, first come, first served.

The following 24 managers are therefore automatically qualified for a AAA league:
(in some cases, I may have listed the QL team name, where I do not know the manager name)

RIHC
Dilligad
Mark L
tommyd
coldwater coyotes
Dave R
Jason
JL

AAA
TD
Da Bomb
Addicted
tothreeball
blackjackis21
Holt
Tequila
Aggy's Miracles
Necro Butcher's scar
StomoDotCom

AA
youngroman
Ref
Goldnets
Tosh
three for a dollar
The Red Scorpions
Air Ball


The 9th place AAA teams are:
Uptown Bombers
Slowhand

The 9th place AA team is:
Wiggs



You may use this thread to express your interest in joining a AAA league. If you are interested, you must provide an email address or your spot may be forfeited if we cannot track you down when league activities (registration, drafting etc. commence)

I need two volunteers to serve as AAA commissioners. Leagues should be hosted at Yahoo, and each draft should be hosted using kafenatid.net “On the Clock” software. RotoGuru.com will pay the registration cost for your draft. By using a common draft site, we will have the ability to compare and analyze the various drafts when they are completed.

Once we have two AAA Commissioners, they may start separate threads to recruit each league (using the priority guidelines listed above). Please wait until both commissioners have been named.

If you are interested in a AA league and you are not qualifed for a AAA slot, you may also list your interest in this thread. Again, provide your email address. We also need a volunteer to Commish the first AA league. Once the first AA league is filled, we will begin to fill another league. There is no qualification standard for joining a AA league. However, participants in the RIHC or a AAA league should refrain from also joining a AA league unless there are open slots that must be filled to complete a league.
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73 Wesley
      ID: 116492915
      Tue, Sep 30, 2008, 12:07
I will play AA
74 Qwerty123
      ID: 98513014
      Tue, Sep 30, 2008, 16:00
I'll take an AA spot.
75Gescom
      Leader
      ID: 520461315
      Tue, Sep 30, 2008, 17:50
We need 2 more and one commish
76ywk
      ID: 4811132
      Tue, Sep 30, 2008, 21:59
Not sure if it is too late to take another AA team.
77 Jack Hammers
      ID: 37462114
      Wed, Oct 01, 2008, 09:48
Wow its hoops season eh. Back to AA for me if you need somebody
78Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Oct 01, 2008, 10:58
We now have enough responses for a full AA league, but someone needs to step up and serve as commish.

The essential duties of the commissioner as:
1. Organize the sign-up process. Register the league at kafenatid.net for the draft, and at Yahoo. Communicate the registration info to all league members.

2. Establish the draft order. Most of the invitational leagues use a certain process to select draft order, but when time is of the essence (as it may be for this league), simply assigning a random order is sometimes done.

3. Ensure that the draft keeps moving. Usually, this means making selections from various queues, but mostly, it means saber-rattling if/when the progress is slower than needed.

4. Enter draft results info into Yahoo. The Yahoo interface for this is pretty simple, and shouldn't be an ordeal.

5. Mediate disputes during the season. For most of the Invitational leagues, this is not a big issue.

So, most of the commissioner attention is needed during October. Once the season starts, most leagues run on autpilot.
79WonderB
      ID: 3289227
      Wed, Oct 01, 2008, 11:01
for AA#1 still needs commish
DPR
jseth 333
donkey hunter
gurudan
gescom
rheo
Valkyrie
wolfer (need email posted)
wesley
qwerty123
ywk (need email posted)
jack hammers

league full. someone from this group needs to volenteer to commish.

new comers keep signing up to fill a second AA league
80 ywk
      ID: 4811132
      Wed, Oct 01, 2008, 22:07
Get my email address posted.
81Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Oct 02, 2008, 11:22
Can we really not find a willing volunteer to commish the AA league?

If anyone not yet "signed up" for this league is willing to step up and commish, that person gets in, and someone else will be left out.
82 wolfer
      ID: 25521311
      Thu, Oct 02, 2008, 11:46
email.
83wolfer
      ID: 25521311
      Thu, Oct 02, 2008, 11:49
I would rather have somebody else step up, but if no one else wants to volunteer, I wil be the commissioner.
84Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Oct 03, 2008, 12:13
wolfer, it looks like you are the one. Thanks.

I suggest registering the league at both Yahoo and kafenatid.net (I'm paying for the draft, so that's taken care of already.) Send out emails to the individuals listed above, and start an organizing thread at the leagues and standings forum.

Let me know if you need any help.
85wolfer
      ID: 25521311
      Fri, Oct 03, 2008, 16:59
I will set everything up either late tonight or tomorrow.
86ywk
      ID: 4811132
      Sun, Oct 05, 2008, 23:54
Guru and wolfer:

Thanks a lot.
87skinneej
      Leader
      ID: 040625911
      Mon, Oct 06, 2008, 17:48
Looks like I am too late to get back into a league. My work schedule is much more stable this year, so I hate I had to give up my RIHC spot last year. If any openings come up let me know, and I can commish one if necessary.
88Pacers Rule
      Sustainer
      ID: 910311210
      Mon, Oct 06, 2008, 22:10
Sounds like AA #2 has found its commish, skinneej. My only question is....why not a fat one?
89Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Mon, Oct 06, 2008, 22:30
He is definitely phat. And a dangerous fantasy hoopster at dat.
90skinneej
      Leader
      ID: 040625911
      Tue, Oct 07, 2008, 14:12
Are there any others interested in a 2nd AA league? I can get things going if there is enough interest.

I just can't believe Mike D will not be back for the Elimination Chamber this season which he started years back. Where will you get your trading fix? I realize that after your initial 5 year dominance I have managed to sneak out the last two, but c'mon!!
91WonderB
      Sustainer
      ID: 241053812
      Tue, Oct 07, 2008, 14:49
i'd play with you in this one too.
i'd be very interested in a live draft.
best way to handle that would be to just name a date and time and say 'if you can make it come play'

just not saterday the 25th, i'm already in a draft that day.

anyway. you still have a week before things look bad for a slow draft and i'm sure some that are already playing could fill a few final spots.
92 twolves
      ID: 2991339
      Tue, Oct 07, 2008, 17:13
I would be interested if need players but A live draft might be difficult for me due to other committments around that time.
93 astade
      ID: 2896519
      Wed, Oct 08, 2008, 03:43
skinneej, i would be interested in joining the 2nd AA league.
94Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Oct 08, 2008, 08:50
I'll mention this in today's blurb. We might be able to round up another league-full.

If you have a reasonably diligent league, you should be able to complete a slow draft in 7-8 days.
95skinneej
      Leader
      ID: 040625911
      Wed, Oct 08, 2008, 09:05
Ok, i have 4 of us in so far, 8 to go...the plan would be to do a slow draft through Kafenatid like the other leagues. I have another league that will start the same type draft next week, so I think we will be good to finish on time.
96 GolfFreak
      Leader
      ID: 01730209
      Wed, Oct 08, 2008, 22:39
Im in.

5 of us in so far, 7 to go...
97 Harver
      ID: 54920318
      Thu, Oct 09, 2008, 00:12
skinneej, i am interested in joining the 2nd AA league. Please let me know.
98 reebbertxx
      ID: 478422717
      Thu, Oct 09, 2008, 00:25
I'm interested in the second AA league.
99skinneej
      Leader
      ID: 040625911
      Thu, Oct 09, 2008, 10:12
5 more needed.
100GolfFreak
      ID: 309171022
      Sat, Oct 11, 2008, 21:17
butt^^^^
2nd AA league needs 5 more managers.
101WonderB
      Sustainer
      ID: 241053812
      Sat, Oct 11, 2008, 21:45
i'm not sure if you are counting me. i am already in a AAA league.
just to be more clear, i would play if you were desparate to fill the league.
102 mtd
      ID: 14948125
      Sun, Oct 12, 2008, 06:54
im looking to join a high stakes league. anyone have any advise or recommendations? thx
103skinneej
      Leader
      ID: 040625911
      Mon, Oct 13, 2008, 12:48
WonderB, yes I am counting you as one of the 7 that are currently in. I am thinking we need to find the other 5 by wed to have a shot at getting the draft done and league started by 10/28.
104Pacers Rule
      Sustainer
      ID: 910311210
      Mon, Oct 13, 2008, 16:57
Skinneej, if you elect to opt for a fast draft due to time concerns with a slow draft....or even a slow draft followed by a fast draft if/when you don't get done in time.....I might be able to provide another 'fill' team to help bump the numbers up to make the league go. I would enjoy a live draft this year. Obviously my AA team would be irrelevant for advancement through RIHC eligibility. Another option of course would be to complete the draft AFTER the season has started with all players drafted getting accumulated stats from day one of the NBA season. I'm pretty sure Yahoo has that option/capability if that was something that seemed like a better option than no league or a fast draft. I would not be interested in fielding a team for that option, personally though. Just a way to buy some more time to round up 12.
105twolves
      ID: 436162320
      Mon, Oct 13, 2008, 20:34
I could be around for a live draft but might be missing for a few hours at a time if time is a major constraint to get the league going.
106xpdurmind
      ID: 1650421
      Tue, Oct 14x, 2008, 00:31
If you guys are in need you can count me in for a live draft as long as it is in the pm before thw 19th...
107 Smith32
      ID: 396101713
      Tue, Oct 14x, 2008, 11:04
I don't know much about hoops, but I'll give it a shot to help fill the league.
108WonderB
      ID: 3289227
      Tue, Oct 14x, 2008, 13:20
MTD
are you saying you would like to play? if so welcome.
there is NO money involved here (at least as far as i know unless there is some unknown private side betting.)
if thats is what you mean by high stakes, sorry.
109skinneej
      Leader
      ID: 040625911
      Tue, Oct 14x, 2008, 15:05
Invites have been sent out to the ones who have listed their e-mails above (xpdurmind I don't have one for you). Please join the yahoo league quickly so we can see where we are at. Still need 2-3 I believe.

My plan is to still do a slow live draft through kafenatid and we will cut down the draft times as needed. The first few rounds will probably go a little slow, but the later rounds will have a reduced clock in order to have the league set and ready to go on time.

I will start a league thread in the standings forum as soon as we have 12 teams.
110 beastiemiked
      ID: 51913818
      Tue, Oct 14x, 2008, 20:01
I'm interested in AA.
111GolfFreak
      ID: 309171022
      Tue, Oct 14x, 2008, 21:32
Signed up in yahoo.
112skinneej
      Leader
      ID: 040625911
      Wed, Oct 15, 2008, 10:00
BMD, invite sent. We have 10 once xpdurmind posts his e-mail address. 2 more spots left. I will send the Kafenatid invite out later today. Plan to start the draft by Friday.
113WonderB
      Sustainer
      ID: 241053812
      Wed, Oct 15, 2008, 13:24
will we pick spots after randomization. that peticular phase took close to two days in my aaa.
114 skinneej
      Leader
      ID: 040625911
      Thu, Oct 16, 2008, 09:48
OK, 9 are in Yahoo and 6 in Kafenatid. If you haven't joined one or the other, please do so now. If you need the info resent, drop me a line today. Still need 2 more.


115 WonderB
      ID: 3289227
      Thu, Oct 16, 2008, 10:58
didn't get kafenatid evite. checked inbox,spam,trash.
116 Jaydog
      ID: 419101610
      Thu, Oct 16, 2008, 11:10
I'm in if there are spots left.
117WonderB
      ID: 3289227
      Thu, Oct 16, 2008, 11:26
that is 12 i think.
118skinneej
      Leader
      ID: 040625911
      Thu, Oct 16, 2008, 13:33
If you have posted, but did not get the invite message, here is the info:

Yahoo:

League ID#: 86461
Password: gurupies

Kafenatid:

To sign up for the league draft, please go to Kafenatid and click on the "Register For a Draft" link.

League ID: 266
League Password: gurupies
119dpr
      ID: 13443116
      Thu, Oct 16, 2008, 23:14
i wanted a ruling on etiquitte.

I am in the AA league. We are behind in the draft as we are jsut in the second round. Someone is about to time out (still 30 mins left) and was wondering what i should do if he does. This is our first round with a clock so wasnt sure it ettiquite says to cut some slack. Also the freeze is only 20 mins after he times out and I will be up soon after the clock starts again tomorrow morning to pick if then I decide to wait it out.

My current plan is to wait until i go to bed to pick which is about an hour after he will time out. If people tell me I should wait until the morning I will do that or if I jsut should pick right away. let me know

hopwfully this is all for nothing and a pick is made. jsut wanted to ask before the situation arose.
120xpdurmind
      ID: 1650421
      Fri, Oct 17, 2008, 00:27
Skinneej,
Thanks for the invite...However if this is an on the clock draft, I will not be able to play. I don't want to time out on you guys. I can manage a live draft before noon on the 19th.
121CJ
      Leader
      ID: 499271021
      Fri, Oct 17, 2008, 00:34
118 I am in...you do not still need my e-mail do you?
122skinneej
      Leader
      ID: 040625911
      Fri, Oct 17, 2008, 10:57
xp, yes this will be a on the clock draft but if you can leave queues that would work. If not, we still need 1 more manager.

11 are registered in yahoo, and 10 in kafenatid (astade still needs to register).

I'm starting a new thread so please go here to start the draft order.
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