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Subject: GMD Interest
Posted by: Farn
- Leader [451044109] Tue, Oct 28, 2008, 15:13
Before I even bother Guru, is there interest in GMD this year?
If so just post once here that you are interested. If there is enough I'll ask him if it can be done this year. |
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| 56 | Soulman
Donor
ID: 016105313
Thu, Nov 13, 2008, 14:30
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#46
dpr, I just realized you already knew we're not playing (I didn't notice the stars until now), so sorry for my unnecessary answer in 53. Anyway, good luck to everybody!
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| 57 | twolves
Dude
ID: 811161317
Thu, Nov 13, 2008, 19:02
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My work schedule has been busy but count me in. If a team manager is really needed I could let Weykool have a chance for revenge but might prefer just playing this year.
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| 58 | dpr
ID: 13443116
Thu, Nov 13, 2008, 21:55
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56
yea the hall of champions is messed up so that people not playing this year get last years total as there current one and while we have our current total so u guys flew to the top making it easy to see top managers no longer playing
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| 59 | dpr
ID: 13443116
Thu, Nov 13, 2008, 23:20
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it might be a good idea to get the team IDs as that will likely take a few days
Also managers and size of teams finalized.
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| 60 | Soetal1
ID: 17915254
Fri, Nov 14, 2008, 12:22
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If isn't too late count me in.
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| 61 | Blooki
ID: 3698271
Fri, Nov 14, 2008, 12:33
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Blooki
Team ID: 1481
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| 62 | Gescom
Leader
ID: 520461315
Fri, Nov 14, 2008, 12:42
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Gescom
Team ID: 959
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| 63 | qwert
ID: 188411214
Fri, Nov 14, 2008, 14:08
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qwert
team ID: 215
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| 64 | qwert
ID: 188411214
Fri, Nov 14, 2008, 14:10
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let's have a vote
A - 4 teams of 6
B - 3 teams of 8
C - no FA's - draft everyone and drop a few players at pre-determined intervals
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| 65 | deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Fri, Nov 14, 2008, 14:15
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Still deciding which team, but ID 82 or 83, it will be. Will take my decision after tonight, #83 has the lead, but you never know what happens tonight...
As for for the vote...
Fine with A/B.
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| 66 | dpr
ID: 13443116
Fri, Nov 14, 2008, 14:16
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we have 34 teams I so i would think that A should be changed to 4 teams of 7 and B 3 teams of 9.
In terms of which of those we do maybe just see how many managers we have. I dont think it is really matters. I dont think this game is about the competition as much as it is about organizing the conversations so maybe having more people on a team would make that easier?
I would prefer not to do C but between A and B I dont care.
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| 67 | dpr
ID: 13443116
Fri, Nov 14, 2008, 14:17
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slamdunkers12345
id= 315
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| 68 | qwert
ID: 188411214
Fri, Nov 14, 2008, 14:23
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66 alright...never mind the vote I think
7,8 or 9 per team depending on the final numbers
as far as 3 teams or 4...I expect that will also depend on how many manager volunteers we get. not sure I have the time to swing it.
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| 69 | Blooki
ID: 3698271
Fri, Nov 14, 2008, 18:12
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BTW, I'll manage a team if you need managers, but I'd prefer not to.
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| 70 | twolves
ID: 161542014
Fri, Nov 14, 2008, 18:41
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KI raises an interesting point about drafting everyone to encourage continuing support.
I do not know if Guru can figure out a way in which only the top 6 or 7 scores are counted daily for a team--that way teams could have extra players participating who may or may not be as active as some managers would like. If odd number some teams might have an extra player--the top teams would have to release a player to a lower ranking team--ie extra players always on the lower ranking teams(every two weeks rosters could be adjusted).
As last year if team accumulates 10-12 unused trades, it would be considered inactive and dropped (and the teams numbers readjusted based on rank). No team would be allowed to purposely accumulate trades just because their scores not being counted.
By the same token, I think it is important for anyone signed up to be committed to participating on team boards and BB sites on RotoGuru since he has been gracious enough to accomadate GMD. This encourages both participants and non-participants to look at the site.
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| 71 | dpr
ID: 13443116
Fri, Nov 14, 2008, 19:38
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twolves,
that is a good idea to ahve everyone on a team but only count the top scores. However i dont think we would want to do this daily because scores fluctuate so much. For the period would likely be better or at least more accurate way of doing it.
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| 72 | Pica
Sustainer
ID: 161141312
Sat, Nov 15, 2008, 03:53
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PICA-A
125
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| 73 | Soetal1
ID: 17915254
Sat, Nov 15, 2008, 05:05
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Boards 2008
id= 121
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| 74 | kentucky indians
ID: 281025910
Sat, Nov 15, 2008, 08:36
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I like how twolves and dpr are thinking!! Draft everyone.... for I vote 4 GMD teams; three just feels like too few to me... count the top 6 or 7? scores over a week or two week trading period... Teams with more than 10? trades are inelligible for that two week period...
Then use the model pro teams use for expansion drafts for the "waiver process!!"... Each GMD manager protects 6? of his teams... Each GMD manager can then pick an unprotected team from one of the opposing teams... No one would get there feelings hurt by being dumped into the free agent pool and therefore be out of the game... and if they are upset about being unprotected by there previous manager; they can help there NEW team make there previous GMD manager pay!!!
maybe too hard to figure scoring??
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| 75 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Nov 15, 2008, 09:08
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I'm sure I could handle taking the top scores each day or period. It probably should be based on the scoring period.
I like the proposal in [74] as well. In fact, I was coming here to suggest it, but see that ki beat me to the punch.
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| 76 | weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Sat, Nov 15, 2008, 12:17
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weykool GMD
ID: 1750
I will captain a team.
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| 77 | Heather
ID: 5170914
Sun, Nov 16, 2008, 10:56
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HeatherC
id=1769
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| 78 | Farn
Leader
ID: 451044109
Sun, Nov 16, 2008, 10:58
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It looks like you guys all have a good handle on this. Like a few others I'm going to pass this year on GMD.
If you have any questions feel free to contact me and I'll be happy to help.
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| 79 | dpr
ID: 13443116
Mon, Nov 17, 2008, 14:03
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Really try to get your team ID in the thread for them. Have we decided on managers yet?
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| 81 | Dunkenstein
Leader
ID: 039541913
Tue, Nov 18, 2008, 05:02
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So far weykool, twolves and Blooki have with varying degrees of reluctance agreed to manage a GMD team. And it would seem that with his driving contribution to the cause of GMD this year, dpr should also manage a team.
The following managers need to add their team names and numbers to the sign-up thread set up by Blooki(not this thread):
Dave R
Soetal1
dpr
And after perusing the earlier posts on this thread, the following have expressed interest in GMD, but have not added their team names and numbers to the sign up thread:
Qwerty123
deejay
bd
DrD
Guru
Mrballaholic
Philsphan
C Bird
Rendle
Usual Suspects
Florian
Rebbertxx
Ender
allhair allstars
Donkey Hunter
The Bandwagon
twolves
Plus anybody else still interested in signing up.
Last year's GMD draft started on 11/17. So if you want Guru to have time to assemble the pre-draft stats, agree on four managers, and hold a draft, you all should get your team names and ID #s on the sign-up thread as soon as you can.
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| 82 | deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Tue, Nov 18, 2008, 07:07
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I would offer to manage, but I'm switching apartments soon, so I might be tough for a few days, the Spanish Phone/Internet company sucks a little and it might take a few days before I'm set up in my new place.
Not very handy when you're a GMD manager...
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| 83 | deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Tue, Nov 18, 2008, 07:08
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should say: IT might be tough , not I
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| 84 | deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Wed, Nov 19, 2008, 14:19
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So when do we plan to start?
No Farn/Soulman this year, someone will need to step up....
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| 85 | Dunkenstein
Leader
ID: 039541913
Thu, Nov 20, 2008, 20:45
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I don't want to compete this year, but if nobody objects, I'd be willing to serve as the commissioner. I worked with Farn to set up past GMD leagues, and am a former GMD manager. Any objections?
First issue: Managers. Weykool says he wants to manage, and Blooki said in #69 that he'd reluctantly be willing to manage and twolves said in #57 that he would also manage. Are you two guys still willing to manage along with weykool?
If so, we need a fourth manager. Since dpr's been instrumental in pushing GMD this year, I'd like to volunteer him as the fourth manager. Is that alright with you dpr? It's not really much work. You participate in a draft and start a thread in the forum each trading period.
As I envision it, the draft will be held on Mon and Tues, Dec 1 and 2, with the season starting Wednesday Dec 3. Sign-ups will be closed at Midnight EST Monday, November 24. That will give Guru enough time to put together the pre-draft stats and everyone to have a nice Thanksgiving, while the managers are planning their draft strategies.
So far only 23 people have signed up on the sign-up thread. That means that some 8 folks who said they were interested, haven't signed up yet. Also any others who are interested can sign up as well.
Will weykool, Blooki. twolves and dpr please email me at stein307 at gmail.com to confirm that you are willing to manage. And if any one else wants to manage, they can email me as well.
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| 86 | Dunkenstein
Leader
ID: 039541913
Thu, Nov 20, 2008, 21:00
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GMD Schedule:
Sign-ups close: 11/24
Draft: 12/1-2
TP #1 12/3-16
TP #2 12/17-30
TP #3 12/31-1/13
TP #4 1/14-27
TP #5 1/28-2/12
TP #6 2/17-3/3
TP #7 3/4-17
TP #8 3/18-3/31
TP #9 4/1-15
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| 88 | Dunkenstein
Leader
ID: 039541913
Sat, Nov 22, 2008, 13:56
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OK, we now have four GMD Managers: Weykool, dpr, Bloooki and deejay.
The draft will start on Monday, Dec 1 and last until all the owners in the pool are drafted. There will be no waiver pool. The season itself will start Wednesday Dec 3.
I like the concept KI presented in #74 whereby only the top 6 or 7 owners on each team count in the scoring for that trading period. And also at the end of each trading period, managers will be able to trade for unprotected players on other team's rosters. Once I find out how many owners are in GMD, I'll finalize the system.
So far 26 owners have signed up for GMD. The following owners expressed interest in GMD, but have not yet signed up:
Qwerty123
MrBallaholic
Ender
allhair allstars
Donkey Hunter
The Bandwagon
Usual Suspects
If they or anybody else want to play this season, I urge them to sign up on the sign up thread. If any of you have a way of contacting them, please do so, and ask them if they are still interested in playing GMD this year.
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| 89 | allhair allstars
Sustainer
ID: 50902421
Sat, Nov 22, 2008, 14:04
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Is it the GMD manager's discretion about who is protected each TP or is it automatically the top 6 or 7 teams?
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| 90 | dpr
ID: 13443116
Sat, Nov 22, 2008, 14:13
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wat do u mean by trade for unprotected players?
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| 91 | Dunkenstein
Leader
ID: 039541913
Sat, Nov 22, 2008, 18:00
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At the end of each TP, depending on how many players we have on each team, each team will have their top five or six players protected. One or two of the worst scorers will be left unprotected and can be traded for by another team. This is like taking a player from the waiver pool as we did in the past, but since there will be no waiver pool, this will enable the lower ranking teams to attempt to upgrade their teams.
Once we know how many owners we have playing GMD, I'll figure out just how the system should work and present it to you. Look at what KI wrote in #74 to get a general idea of what I'm talking about.
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| 92 | Usual Suspects
ID: 29521123
Sat, Nov 22, 2008, 19:18
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How do you find your team ID again?
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| 93 | deejay
ID: 510282217
Sat, Nov 22, 2008, 19:22
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go to team center , hoover over the team you want to chose, and look to the left bottom corner of your screen, there is a number at the end, that number is your team ID.
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| 94 | Usual Suspects
ID: 29521123
Sat, Nov 22, 2008, 19:44
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thx Deejay
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| 95 | Dunkenstein
Leader
ID: 039541913
Sat, Nov 22, 2008, 20:18
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#89
It will be at the manager's discretion.
allhair, are you going to sign up?
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| 96 | kentucky indians
ID: 281025910
Sat, Nov 22, 2008, 23:31
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Dunk,
I like leaving the "protected teams" to be at the managers discretion... however in the interest of not require too much work of the team managers; and in the event of a vacationing of absentee manager. I would add a rule that GMD managers not posting there "protected teams" list by a certain time on waiver wire day would have the top however many teams from the last scoring period being the protected teams.
my additional $0.02
ki
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| 97 | kentucky indians
ID: 281025910
Sat, Nov 22, 2008, 23:40
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Looks like we are around 30 teams... that means four teams of 7 or 8... I would vote we protect 5 teams each trading period and score the top 6... score one more team than the protected number would make the "trading process" more interesting? But it might also make the role of the GMD managers more significant/powerful... Just brainstorming; what do other people think??
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| 98 | Dunkenstein
Leader
ID: 039541913
Sun, Nov 23, 2008, 01:49
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KI, I agree with basically all you have said. I still want to wait until the end of the sign up period to see how many owners we actually have playing before discussing how many owners are protected.
I agree that if by a defined time on "trade Wednesday" a manager has not listed his protected players, then the top scoring teams for that trading period will automatically be protected and the balance will be left unprotected.
I'm using the term "trade" since we are no longer dealing with waivers. If a manager wants to pick up an unprotected owner from another team, he will have to trade one of the owners from his own team to that other team in order to acquire the player from that other team.
I also don't think it's a good idea to leave too many players on each team unprotected, because then there could end up being too much movement of players from team to team and relationships built among team members will be broken up unnecessarily.
We had five sign-ups today. Still waiting to hear from:
MrBallaholic
Ender
Donkey Hunter
The Bandwagon
and anyone else who wants to join.
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| 99 | kentucky indians
ID: 281025910
Sun, Nov 23, 2008, 10:27
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Dunk,
having thought about it overnite... I agree that the protected number of teams and the number of teams that score during a given trade period should be the same number. Too much team movement and GMD managers would be too important/powerful in adjusting the teams... I think in the "trade process" as I envisioned it, the manager picking an unprotected player would only identify the team manager he wanted to add and not the team mangager he was going to "trade away." I think after that one team adds a manager, it would be the reponsibiliy of the team manager loosing a team to identify which team he wanted to replace that manager with. I think releasing to the "free agent pool" or "trading away a team manager" is where feelings can get hurt. If GMD managers only identify the unprotected players they WANT! we might eliminate hurt feelings and increase participation.
I think you are doing a terricfic job as league commisioner..
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| 100 | Maineac
Donor
ID: 26110315
Sun, Nov 23, 2008, 11:32
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Maineacs3
ID: 669 ( I guess this is a threesome)
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| 101 | Dunkenstein
Leader
ID: 039541913
Sun, Nov 23, 2008, 13:08
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Maineac, I have added your team to the signup thread. We now have 32 players signed up which means we have reach what I considered the "magic number": eight per team.
We have still to hear from:
MrBallaholic
Ender
The Bandwagon
and anyone else (like Maineac) who wants to join.
One of you guys must know how to contact The Bandwagon and/or Ender. So shoot them an email and ask them to sign up.
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| 102 | allhair allstars
Sustainer
ID: 50902421
Sun, Nov 23, 2008, 16:28
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I emailed Ender... but I probably lost The Bandwagon's email years ago...
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| 103 | Ender
ID: 55471420
Sun, Nov 23, 2008, 20:24
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Ender
Team ID: 1720
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| 104 | weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Sun, Nov 23, 2008, 20:46
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I would be in favor of limiting team movement.
I would think no more than 2 unprotected teams would be enough to allow teams to improve but not upset the core of each team.
The default for protected players should be the season to date score and not just the last period.
One of your better teams has a bad couple of weeks and the captain forgets to send in their protected list?????
It could upset the competetive balance of the league.
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| 105 | Dunkenstein
Leader
ID: 039541913
Mon, Nov 24, 2008, 03:41
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I have added Ender to the sign up thread. We now have 34 players. We'll wait until midnight tomorrow just in case there are any last minute stragglers, or the mysterious MrBallaholic shows up.
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| 106 | Comic Book Guy
ID: 20817160
Mon, Nov 24, 2008, 03:53
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I would like to be included if possible. I've never contributed to this site (a gross oversight on my part) but assume I am a familiar name to most. I am probably the most consistently good but not great player in Ultimate (four straight years between #46 and #72). I love the concept that we are draftable, tradeable, cuttable commodities, just like the NBA players who thrill/torture us.
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| 107 | deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Mon, Nov 24, 2008, 07:29
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CBG:
Chose your team and put the ID# Here
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