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Subject: Trading Information
Posted by: G
- [369542914] Mon, Nov 24, 2008, 10:51
Not sure how many of you have seen this in the TSN forum but since I am certain there are numerous late day traders in this forum, you may want to know your transactions might not count on the day you made the trade:
EFerreira wrote:
guys,
the price calculation process takes some time, so we have to calculate them before 11 if thats when we are going to unfreeze with new prices. most nights this doesn't really matter because most players are frozen by 10. the nights that would be affected most would be the nights with very few games and less players frozen. unfortunately, we cannot calculate prices instantaneously so the process will have to stay the same.
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| 1 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Mon, Nov 24, 2008, 11:28
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I'm really not sure this is any big deal. Short of buying a player who isn't playing, just before the freeze, and that probably doesn't happen all that often.
As TSN states most players are frozen well in advance of the 11:00 freeze time. The latest any game starts is 10:30 and I just can't imagine there are all that many playing that are going to wait until just before that time to make their trades.
I would be a bit curious as to when they do close the trading down to calculate the price changes. Is it 10, 10:30 or whenever, and are any buys made after that time included in the next days trades and price changes.
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| 2 | G
ID: 369542914
Mon, Nov 24, 2008, 11:33
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Yeah I would agree it isn't a "big deal" to work with as long as we know the system. Unfortunately not knowing the system cost me 50K already in losses that could have been avoided if I would have just known the answers to the questions you ask in post #1. I have asked them these same questions in the TSN forum but no answer yet.
Anyway, I just posted as an FYI. If you are pondering the purchase of a player and have the choice to make it 10:00 EST or 10:59 EST, if you want it to count on that day, you better make it at 10:00 EST.
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| 3 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Nov 24, 2008, 11:39
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If your trades are similar to those of the masses, it should not matter. If you are buying a player who is not a common buy for that day, and trading at the last minute, and doing it on multiple teams, it could have an impact. On light trading days, 5 trades can be worth as much as $30-50K, and if the player would otherwise be in gravity, the swing could be even greater.
I guess the moral of the story is, if your buys could sway the price movement, do them earlier in the day.
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| 4 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Nov 24, 2008, 11:50
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BTW, programmatically, there is no reason that price changes couldn't be calculated almost instantaneously, especially if buys and sells are logged in an efficient manner (which they may or may not be). It's not like the formula is computationally intensive.
Perhaps they want to have the changes calculated in advance so that someone can review them before release, just to avoid the occasional instances when something causes the results to be botched (as seems to occurs several times each season).
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| 5 | ole
ID: 4810212413
Mon, Nov 24, 2008, 14:28
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to me that makes very little sense - from both, a technical (programming) and game theory point of view.
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