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0 Subject: GMD pre-draft rules and discussion

Posted by: Dunkenstein
- Leader [039541913] Fri, Nov 28, 2008, 11:47

After consultation with the managers, we have developed the following rules.
1Dunkenstein
      Leader
      ID: 039541913
      Fri, Nov 28, 2008, 11:49
GMD DRAFT

We have 34 players currently in the GMD player pool. That means 2 teams of 8 and 2 teams of 9.

As for the draft, as usual it will be a "snake" draft with the managers picking at 1&8, 2&7, 3&6, 4&5, and so on, until all the people who signed-up are drafted. Every owner in the players pool will part of a GMD team; there will be no waiver list.

The order of the draft is as follows:

1) Weykool
2) deejay
3) Blooki
4) dpr

The draft will be held on Dec 1 and 2 and the GMD season will begin on Wednesday, Dec 3.

Following the draft, anyone else who wishes to play GMD this season can join by placing his or her team name and id number in the GMD sign-up thread. At the end of the first trading period they will be assigned to one of the GMD teams.


TRADING PERIODS

There will be nine TPs:

TP #1 12/3-16
TP #2 12/17-30
TP #3 12/31-1/13
TP #4 1/14-27
TP #5 1/28-2/12
TP #6 2/17-3/3
TP #7 3/4-17
TP #8 3/18-3/31
TP #9 4/1-15

For each TP, the scores of only the top seven players on each team (including the manager) will count towards that team’s score for the TP.


WAIVER CLAIMS DRAFT

At the conclusion of each TP, we will hold a Waiver Claims Draft. Each manager will protect seven members of his team (including himself). The rest will be unprotected and placed on the unprotected list. A manager will have the choice to put any newly signed-up players added to his team at the end of the TP on either his protected or unprotected list.

Should a manager not list his unprotected players by 1pm EST on Weds, the player(s) with the worst year-to-date scoring on his team will be put on the unprotected list.

The team with the worst season record to date will draft first and so on. There will be two rounds of the Waiver Claim Draft. Both rounds will be worst to best. Once a player is claimed, he will automatically become protected.


Please use this thread to discuss any GMD matters except sign-up which should be done in the GMD sign-up thread.

Guru, starting tomorrow would you please put the daily pre-draft stats in this thread. And thanks again for keeping the stats.
2Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Nov 28, 2008, 11:51
If the number of players remains unbalanced, perhaps the teams at the bottom of the standings should have the continuing rights to the extra players.

For example, if there are still 34 players after the first TP, then for the next TP the two teams ranked 3rd and 4th will have 9 players, and the top two teams will have only 8.
3allhair allstars
      Sustainer
      ID: 50902421
      Fri, Nov 28, 2008, 12:23
That sounds like a good idea.

I assume that the top 7 teams will be chosen from their year-long performance and not from their performance since the beginning of the GMD competition, or the previous TP?

Also, I would interpret the rule "For each TP, the scores of only the top seven players on each team (including the manager) will count towards that team’s score for the TP" to mean that even in the case that one of the GMD managers isn't in the top 7 managers on that team, s/he will be included in the scores at the cost of a higher ranked manager?

4Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Nov 28, 2008, 12:28
I assume that the top 7 scoring teams each period will be based on points for that TP only.

If teams must be placed on the unprotected list automatically, those should probably be based on total points since the start of GMD. Points prior to the start of GMD aren't usually even reported in the standings thread.
5ki@mons house
      ID: 241043247
      Fri, Nov 28, 2008, 12:30
last rule I think we need something about teams that "quit playing." Maybe it should be teams starting a trade period with more than 10? trades should be ineligible to score during that trading period? Still carry them on a GMD team in the event the resart playing.
6allhair allstars
      Sustainer
      ID: 50902421
      Fri, Nov 28, 2008, 14:10
We have one team with 11 trades banked as we speak... as well as several others with 6 in pocket who could conceivably start with 10...
7Dunkenstein
      Leader
      ID: 039541913
      Fri, Nov 28, 2008, 14:35
#5 Teams that quit playing will be be removed from the pool.
9Dunkenstein
      Leader
      ID: 039541913
      Fri, Nov 28, 2008, 14:45
The following was agreed to in discussion with the four managers:

Based on the number of total players in the GMD pool, some teams will have one more player than the other teams. For the sake of discussion, let's call a team with one less player "a team with the minimum allowed players" (currently 8), and a team with one more will be called "a team with the maximum allowed players" (currently 9).

This system is not based on trades. It is based on waiver claims. There will be two rounds in the waiver claim draft, where each team has the right to claim any unprotected player from any of the other teams.

At the end of the two rounds, if any manager has less than minimum allowed players, he must claim a player from a team with more with than the maximum allowed players. If there are no teams with more than the maximum allowed players, than the manager of the team with less than the minimum must claim a player from any one of the teams with the maximum allowed players. If all teams are meant to have the same number of players (when the player pool is a multiple of 4), a manager with less than that number must claim a player from a team with more than that number.

Under the current circumstances of 34 teams in the player pool, this means that a player with 7 players must claim a player from a team with 10 players. If there is no team with 10 players (i.e. just one team with 7 players and three teams with 9 players) than the team with 7 players must claim a player from one of the three other teams.

This system insures that the teams remain balanced.
10Dunkenstein
      Leader
      ID: 039541913
      Fri, Nov 28, 2008, 14:49
#4, The managers and I agreed that in the rare event that a manager forgets to post his "unprotected list", then the top 7 scorers year-to-date will be protected and the balance placed on an unprotected list.
11Maineac
      Donor
      ID: 26110315
      Sat, Nov 29, 2008, 03:29
When I was a little boy I asked dumb questions. When my son was a little boy he asked dumb questions. This is my second go-around. Don't scold me. Are we stuck with the teams we chose? Then what if my team's plane crashes and I'm wiped out? Thanks.

Go to your roon CBG.

13Dunkenstein
      Leader
      ID: 039541913
      Sat, Nov 29, 2008, 12:25
#11, In the past you were stuck with the team you chose, but wanting to be known as the "Benevolent Commish" :-), I will allow any player to change his team up until 11pm EST today, Saturday November 29.

We cannot do it after tonight as the teams that the managers draft from will initially be based on tomorrow morning's stats. And once we begin the draft, it would not be fair to the managers to have players change their teams.

Put your team change in this thread, but if it's a problem for Guru to change the stats, it may not happen. The final decision is his and cannot be appealed.
14Maineac
      Donor
      ID: 26110315
      Sat, Nov 29, 2008, 14:58
Great either way and thanks.

Maineacs2
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16Dunkenstein
      Leader
      ID: 039541913
      Sun, Nov 30, 2008, 19:27
Since it's already Monday in Europe, I opened the GMD Draft thread in the Basketball League and Standings Forum. Good luck to all those playing this year.

Since Weycool and deejay have the first two picks and both live in Europe, there may not be any picks for quite a while.
17deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Sun, Nov 30, 2008, 19:44
correction, its only me living in Europe.
Weykool lives in the US.
18Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Nov 30, 2008, 21:16
Does the manager have to protect himself each period? If not, what happens if a manager does not protect himself and he is selected by another team?
19weykool
      Leader
      ID: 41750315
      Sun, Nov 30, 2008, 22:04
From the draft thread:

At the conclusion of each TP, we will hold a Waiver Claims Draft. Each manager will protect seven members of his team (including himself). The rest will be unprotected and placed on the unprotected list. Managers will have the opportunity to claim players from other teams' unprotected lists.
20Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Nov 30, 2008, 22:35
I saw that, but thought it was worded ambiguously - hence the question.

It would be clearer if it said "each manager will protect six members of his team plus himself".
21Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Dec 01, 2008, 10:13
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1 Comic Book Guy 6002 130 801 3 56.63 1.25 55.38 0.22 1
2 Blooki 5886 51 842 17 59.83 1.08 58.75 0.10 0
3 wolfer 5835.5 105.5 784.5 43 53.42 1.22 52.20 -0.08 0
4 Senator Urine 5810.5 51 809 50 60.02 0.70 59.32 0.26 2
5 Gary Dotson 5775 87 831.5 74 53.68 1.10 52.58 0.00 0
6 Dean Martin 5773.5 30.5 718 75 56.20 3.09 53.11 0.01 1
7 qwert 5754.5 103 736 83 58.58 1.62 56.96 0.00 1
8 Rendle 5704.5 98.5 796.5 110 54.62 1.25 53.37 0.25 4
9 slamdunkers 5687.5 65 753 120 58.26 2.08 56.18 0.08 0
10 Usual Suspects 5669.5 135.5 746 151 55.46 0.59 54.87 0.18 0
11 Guru 5637 97 838.5 175 57.50 0.98 56.52 0.10 2
12 deejay 5629.5 20.5 729.5 190 58.49 0.26 58.23 -0.01 0
13 Gescom 5628 119 794.5 191 57.71 4.56 53.15 0.29 1
14 Coach Bird 5611.5 130 797.5 216 57.00 3.39 53.61 0.37 1
15 Florian 5583.5 131.5 780 244 57.39 2.50 54.89 0.19 1
16 twolves 5583.5 64 750 244 57.15 1.97 55.18 -0.09 1
17 The Bandwagon 5571 152 810.5 258 55.23 0.27 54.96 0.30 3
18 Ender 5569 50.5 651 262 54.72 1.08 53.64 0.07 0
19 reebbertxx 5568.5 91 787 263 57.40 4.25 53.15 0.20 0
20 allhair allstars 5565 66 787.5 268 56.19 3.20 52.99 0.03 0
21 Heather 5558.5 226.5 875.5 281 54.45 3.36 51.09 0.36 2
22 kentucky indians 5558 134 821.5 283 54.43 1.03 53.40 -0.05 1
23 Dave R 5547 121.5 824.5 299 59.23 2.91 56.32 0.22 3
24 Headless T Gunners 5540 196.5 834.5 308 54.41 0.59 53.82 0.21 1
25 Qwerty123 5534 100.5 715 314 55.01 0.87 54.14 0.12 8
26 Winston 5526.5 59 717 326 54.60 0.16 54.44 0.06 2
27 Pica 5466.5 30.5 724.5 410 56.64 2.26 54.38 0.16 1
28 bd 5409 156 777.5 515 52.28 2.07 50.21 0.14 0
29 Maineac 5378.5 30.5 664 571 53.24 0.03 53.21 0.12 0
30 Soetal1 5295 151 746 711 55.15 3.31 51.84 0.19 2
31 Philsphan 5285.5 72 772.5 728 54.69 1.67 53.02 0.25 1
32 weykool 5265 186 846.5 786 56.83 3.20 53.63 0.36 1
33 DrD 5215.5 122.5 657 844 52.23 0.51 51.72 0.02 0
34 Donkey Hunter 5052.5 74 673.5 1075 52.88 2.47 50.41 -0.10 2



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