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Subject: Week 6 Trade Thread
Posted by: money4later
- [2111213116] Wed, Dec 03, 2008, 15:32
Time to get J-Rich? Looks like he'd be an easy switch from Augustine (for those who have extra cash). |
| 1 | Hang Time
ID: 171022621
Wed, Dec 03, 2008, 17:12
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I already spent 3 trades. Haha.
I hate my team this year.
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| 2 | Allwell
ID: 179202913
Wed, Dec 03, 2008, 17:20
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Joe Johnson and J. Rich seem like obvious buys today with good long term sched.
Im tempted to get J. Smith today as he returns from injury but you never know...
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| 3 | money4later
ID: 2111213116
Wed, Dec 03, 2008, 20:30
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And I held Augustine for what reason? ugh
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| 4 | Bluntkillers
ID: 3116213
Wed, Dec 03, 2008, 22:02
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who is everyone trading augustin for, seems like he has got to go.
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| 5 | G
ID: 369542914
Thu, Dec 04, 2008, 14:45
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I think I am getting out of Augustine in a combo move with Wade for Bosh and Crawford.
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| 6 | Bluntkillers
ID: 381159413
Thu, Dec 04, 2008, 14:59
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I am going Augustin to Harris on monday night.
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| 7 | Blooki
Sustainer
ID: 449292712
Thu, Dec 04, 2008, 15:10
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Yeah, James Augustine has to go. Even at 500K, those 0's are killing my WWR. ;)
Meanwhile, I am leaning towards moving Wade/Augustin => Harris/Crawford
I'd like to have somebody talk me out of Crawford though. I don't feel comfortable with him, but he fits my purposes elsewhere.
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| 8 | Allwell
ID: 179202913
Thu, Dec 04, 2008, 15:44
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What Augustin are we talking about?
DJ on the bobcats?
I am holding... He is really cheap, still getting minutes despite the return of jrich, and good schedule.
Plus I have other fish to fry like Howard and Nene.
And I would love to get Hawes back while he is still $500,000.
I think Nene to Biedrins tomorrow. Howard to Hawes in a few days leaving me a lot of cash to upgrade DJ whenever possible
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| 9 | G
ID: 369542914
Thu, Dec 04, 2008, 16:17
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In the last two days, James "e" has 7.5 less points than DJ but has saved me 40K in RV hits. I think your right tho, both need to go.
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| 10 | Dean Martin
ID: 210141922
Thu, Dec 04, 2008, 18:22
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I'm actually a bit baffled as to why Augustine has such high ownership. His boost in production was a direct result of Jason Richardson missing time with minor knee surgery. The timetable for J-Rich's return meant that Augustine would have been a 1 week or less hold using the logic that his production would come back to reality when J-Rich returned.
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| 11 | Blooki
Sustainer
ID: 449292712
Thu, Dec 04, 2008, 18:37
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Re: 10
I think it was a move of cheapie desperation. Nate Robinson and Anthony Morrow crapped out for many owners and Augustin and Foye were the only options present. Both had big question marks and semi-steep price tags by cheapie standards, but managers were cornered and had to roll the dice.
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| 12 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Dec 04, 2008, 18:39
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[11] Bingo!
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| 13 | Senator Urine
ID: 106171416
Thu, Dec 04, 2008, 18:58
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Yeah, it was a combination of that and one of those situations where, "Is it worse to be the guy with him if he doesn't pan out, or worse to be the guy without him if he takes off." With a schedule like that, and Brown's comments about how he envisioned a three guard rotation even with Richardson back, it seemed like he was worth a gamble at the time (also as you guys said, there were no other options really). Wish I had just worked in Harris in the first place, meh.
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| 14 | G
Donor
ID: 5810561615
Thu, Dec 04, 2008, 22:17
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For me, I can say it was the combo of the rumor that J Rich was being traded and DJ's production as a starter. If J Rich was traded, I didn't want to miss the RV gains he was getting AND the points for a good schedule.
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| 15 | Mac Daddy
ID: 351041224
Fri, Dec 05, 2008, 12:12
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Just out of curiousity for all the Harris buyers yesterday and today, if he puts up two more 20s this weekend, will he be sold? I'm holding off until next week just in case he stinks.
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| 16 | G
ID: 369542914
Fri, Dec 05, 2008, 13:11
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Will he be sold? I am sure some might sell him Sunday even if he puts up two 40 pt games on Fri and Sat. However, I also suspect there to be buys on Sunday, Monday and a lot on Tues as people shuffle their teams for 12/10. Based on that, I would think his price will be higher Wednesday than it is today.
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| 17 | Bluntkillers
ID: 471133512
Fri, Dec 05, 2008, 13:35
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15 & 16...I held Biedrins through his three day gap and he lost for 2 days and gained the 3rd...I think the same will happen with Harris. If he puts up stinkers though it might be a lot of bleeding thats why I will pick him up on the 9th.
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| 18 | Mac Daddy
ID: 351041224
Fri, Dec 05, 2008, 14:00
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Asked a different way, is there any level of output that would make him not be picked up again when the week starts? So if he does put up two more 20s, would people look elsewhere?
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| 19 | G
ID: 369542914
Fri, Dec 05, 2008, 14:08
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I don't think you can call Biedrins and Harris apples to apples.
Biedrins was top 3 in ownership as GSW's approached this recent blip in their schedule. With Biedrins a lot of owners made a lot of money on him so fear of large money loss from high ownership or wanting to bank those gains drove some people to sell.
With Harris, there are few equals to his production/price. He only has 290 owners so there won't be a lot of sell pressure especially from recent buyers. Add to the fact that there are 600 potential buyers for Harris coming on board and that makes his price about as cheap as it is going to be today, and perhaps for the rest of the season.
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| 20 | Blooki
Sustainer
ID: 449292712
Fri, Dec 05, 2008, 14:09
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Re: 18
Doubtful. Barring an injury and assuming a reasonable worse case scenario for his next two games, he still projects to outperform every alternative in his price range in the coming weeks. The only player that I believe would rival him in a pure "value" metric would be Spencer Hawes.
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| 21 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Fri, Dec 05, 2008, 14:17
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There's always a risk with any player that production could taper off. I guess that's part of the intrigue. You could skip him now, see what happens, maybe watch him average 40 for the two games, and buy him at a much more expensive price after the 3 day hole, only to see him falter then anyway.
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| 22 | G
ID: 369542914
Fri, Dec 05, 2008, 14:57
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RE 18, 20:
I agree with the "doubtful". When buying a player, many managers only seem to look at the average. They don't start worrying about how the player does until they are actually on their team. That is when "what have you done for me lately" takes over .
Interestingly enough D Harris is averaging 42 pts a game over the last 30 days. In his last 8, he has been significantly below his 42 pt average in half of them (30,32,28,20). Owning Mr. Harris could be quite the rollar coaster ride :)
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| 23 | Mac Daddy
ID: 351041224
Fri, Dec 05, 2008, 15:16
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Seems the experts all agree. And so do I. I was just thinking with the more recent output not being as great, I might prefer to hold off until after the gap and see if things were clearer. No doubt they could tunr out negative now or if I wait.
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| 24 | Bluntkillers
ID: 171154514
Fri, Dec 05, 2008, 15:58
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I dont know now I am confused...because I do have an extra game for Augustin but is he really gonna produce Harris's 2 games, I don't think so. I should have just moved into Harris yesterday, what does anyone else thing, I need help!
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| 25 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Fri, Dec 05, 2008, 16:17
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We can't predict points, but we can predict $ ,somewhat.
I don't think there is any doubt Harris will make $ and DJ will lose money over the next several days.
Will Harris outpoint DJ in 2 games vs 3? My guess is he will ( and that's what they averages say ), but who knows, my crystal ball broke a while ago.
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| 26 | G
ID: 369542914
Fri, Dec 05, 2008, 16:58
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agree with Dave R. I used Augstin/Augustine yesterday to get Harris with the belief that 2 Harris would be better point wise and should be better RV wise too. If there was a "book" like there is in blackjack, this would be an under 16 with dealer showing a face card. The "book" says hit. Always a chance for a bust but the odds are better to hit.
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| 27 | allhair allstars
Sustainer
ID: 50902421
Fri, Dec 05, 2008, 17:04
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Bluntkillers,
IMHO, it's not worth the stress. As Dave R said, going to Harris gets you money and possibly points. Staying with Augustin may get you points but won't get you any money. Nothing is written in stone, but you have to figure this is a fairly safe gamble on your part. I don't have Harris (or Augustin), but I'll certainly have Harris soon.
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| 28 | money4later
ID: 2111213116
Sat, Dec 06, 2008, 00:11
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Looks like C Miles may be a goner after getting 3 horrible TSNP scores in a row - 9, 9 and 10 (so far tonight.
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| 29 | money4later
ID: 2111213116
Sat, Dec 06, 2008, 12:29
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I'm holding Dwight thru the 9th. Loss or no loss...
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