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Subject: DPR's GMD (TP2)
Posted by: dpr
- [497411012] Wed, Dec 17, 2008, 21:06
Welcome to the team Donkey Hunter.
Hopefully we can have another strong trading period and gain on blooki's team |
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| 26 | DrD
Donor
ID: 034735159
Sun, Dec 21, 2008, 12:39
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Moneywise, Hawes > Blatche is a must!
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| 27 | dpr
ID: 497411012
Sun, Dec 21, 2008, 13:08
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yea I am gonig to pass on durant so that means I either move simmons/camby to rondo/blatche or hawes/camby to wade/blatche
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| 28 | qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Sun, Dec 21, 2008, 13:27
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tough call...I would lean to hawes and camby for wade and blatche, but I know how hard it is to hold an injured player.
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| 29 | Comic Book Guy
ID: 20817160
Sun, Dec 21, 2008, 16:51
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Hawes > Blatche is the kind of trade I absolutely detest, where there will be a big money swing even though there figures to be little to no point gain, or even a loss of points: Hawes seems clearly more reliable than Blatche to me. HOWEVER, I've held Ariza this long so I could trade him for someone who actually might be worth owning, so I went Ariza > Blatche. I also thing Hawes will be bought back next week, while Ariza's schedule dies.
As great as Wade is, I'm wondering why people are so obsessed with buying him with a mediocre schedule, to the point of taking Durant instead of Rondo, an inferior player with an inferior schedule. I feel fine going into the coming weeks with Rondo, Harris, Stuckey and Paul.
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| 30 | twolves
Dude
ID: 811161317
Sun, Dec 21, 2008, 17:59
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I agree about Wade but he is one of those 50+ /game players that may justify holding during a three game week. However, a 4 game 40+/game player does outpoint him and there are more of those around including Rondo.
In relation to Blatche, he does gain 3 games to one for Hawes near term and the question is it worth one trade now and do you have a rotational player such as Ariza to get back to him if you really want him back. Same concept as all those Paul traders this week but on a lower level. Trading Ariza to him today loses a game but save a trade and captures the immediate gain.
At this time of year, it seems the traders rule but later in the year may not.
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| 31 | Maineac
Donor
ID: 26110315
Sun, Dec 21, 2008, 21:27
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I also went Ariza to Blatche for the loot (and 11 pts) and Ariza has to go anyways. I don't know how many get to watch Rondo like I do but he is the real thing. Tommy Heinson called him "Cousy with athleticism". He's been putting up 40plus and not playing the 4th quarter.
Glenn
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| 33 | Comic Book Guy
ID: 20817160
Mon, Dec 22, 2008, 14:17
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I finally figured out the Wade thing: if you have somebody who trades into him (like Camby) and already have Paul you get Wade for a game Tuesday, a 6 in 14 when no team has more than 7, then a 4 game week and a Wedneday game. Great differential pick for points but probably minimal money involved. Had to figure dpr knew what he was doing.
I also figured out that qwert and Qwerty123 are different people. qwert is Fred McGriff. Confusing. Anyone know who Florian and Gary Dotson are on the TSN site?
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| 34 | dpr
ID: 497411012
Mon, Dec 22, 2008, 14:41
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I am actually second guessing wade again. If I move to wade then out of bynum/biedrins I can go to howard/chandler. However If i pass on wade i can get howard with rondo and lee. rondo/lee seems better then wade/chandler. I could also pass on howard to get lee but then I cant pair him with a great midpriced option like the guard rondo.
I knew who florian was wen we were drafting for this but I forget now. I also know luebeck eagles is someone on the site but I forget so i am going to assume that they are the same?
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| 35 | deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Mon, Dec 22, 2008, 14:41
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Florian = Lueback Eagles
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| 36 | qwert
ID: 188411214
Mon, Dec 22, 2008, 14:45
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34,
me too...howard/rondo/lee is a tough combo to match with wade at the guard spot.
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| 37 | dpr
ID: 497411012
Mon, Dec 22, 2008, 15:07
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I think that combo also allowsw me into howard a game earlier without sacrificing a bynum game to free up cash. now i jsut should ahve made the move yesterday. Hopefully camby has a good enoguh game to make up for the money loss
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| 38 | Dean Martin
ID: 291036913
Mon, Dec 22, 2008, 15:17
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33- Gary Dotson is my nephew, TSN id is johnwest60477
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| 39 | dpr
ID: 497411012
Mon, Dec 22, 2008, 23:08
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yea camby to rondo 2 days ago might ahve made more sense...
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| 41 | bd
ID: 389151123
Tue, Dec 23, 2008, 07:56
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Not sure what I did wrong, but FVC not showing up on chart above.
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| 42 | Comic Book Guy
ID: 20817160
Tue, Dec 23, 2008, 20:09
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What an awful week for me: I'm not living up to my draft status at all. I feel like Kwame or Darko or Bargnani. Hopefully next week will be better following the wreckage left by Duncan, Rose and BynUM.
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| 44 | Comic Book Guy
ID: 20817160
Wed, Dec 24, 2008, 19:30
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My trades pretty much make themselves this week. Duncan goes for Howard and my-post Christmas present is getting to rid myself of Bynum for Granny Danger (I'm pushing for that as his his official nickname) at a rock bottom price.
The only question is if I should get Howard tomorrow when both he and Duncan play. Orlando has New Orleans at home and San Antonio is at Phoenix. NO is a strong defensive team, but I suspect Dwight is less likely than normal to get in foul trouble vs. Tyson Chandler. I don't think the price swing will be huge, but I could be wrong. Only real drawback would be if Dwight gets hurt in tomorrow's game, but, as we know, Dwight NEVER gets hurt.
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| 45 | qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Wed, Dec 24, 2008, 22:39
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That problem/poor transition from Duncan into Howard has me pretty sure I'm going to go Duncan to Jefferson for 4 games and then to Howard.
It's one extra trade for 4 Jefferson games to 2 Howard games...and it takes away that awkward decision of when to make the Duncan to Howard trade.
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| 46 | Comic Book Guy
ID: 20817160
Thu, Dec 25, 2008, 03:33
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qwert, thanks for the suggestion. I think that's what I'll do. I will still have 3 extra trades for the next two weeks, which is the number I don't like to fall below, Jefferson will get one big payday and probably a couple of moderate ones, he plays the Knicks, and Howard hasn't been dominating since he came back. Plus, I won't have to be up before 9 a.m. PST to make sure Howard's in the lineup!
Merry Christmas, Team DPR!
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| 47 | bd
ID: 389151123
Thu, Dec 25, 2008, 09:53
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Merry Christmas everyone... I must have been good this year as Santa treated me nice.
If you're going into Howard they have a very early game today.
As a Duncan holder is anyone else considering going into Bosh or did he burn owners too much last time?
Players I need to address this week. Duncan, Ariza, Bonner. With only $.85 in cash I may need to downgrade Duncan in order to upgrade with Ariza or Bonner. I don't see a reasonable way to get Howard at this time.
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| 48 | Comic Book Guy
ID: 20817160
Fri, Dec 26, 2008, 03:26
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I'm going Duncan > Bosh on my team that can't afford Howard. Bosh's production has been acceptable lately (39 TSNP/game in his last 6), he plays GS and Sac this week and he has the best 4 week schedule. Howard is preferrable, but his numbers have been down and his schedule isn't that long---not worth forcing onto your team IMHO. Another possible option is Jefferson for his 4 in 5, then Bosh (unless you have a combo trade you could do after the refresh), but that's only if you don't several other trades to make next week.
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| 50 | bd
ID: 389151123
Fri, Dec 26, 2008, 14:26
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Went Duncan/bonner/ariza --> Granger,W. Chandler/Diaw today. I was .01 short of going granger/Lee/chandler. Bosh would mean getting two super cheapies.
Other options I considered were Hawes which would have allowed Lee, but Hawes' poor production and high ownership scared me.
Perkins was another option but he has higher ownership than chandler and is questionable today.
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| 51 | Comic Book Guy
ID: 20817160
Sat, Dec 27, 2008, 02:35
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Congrats to qwert for taking over the #1 spot. I had hoped to be #1 for awhile before the big money people rose up but it doesn't look like that will happen. The race is officially on when someone with a legitimate chance to win it takes the lead.
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| 53 | twolves
ID: 199251719
Sat, Dec 27, 2008, 06:12
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Congratulations to qwert and CBG. Lets see if we can keep them in position for the top spot.
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| 54 | qwert
ID: 361022217
Sat, Dec 27, 2008, 10:09
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Thanks guys!
Though there are some things I would like to tweak about my
team I think I am going to try to hold off on any moves at least
until Tuesday.
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| 56 | twolves
ID: 199251719
Sun, Dec 28, 2008, 14:28
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Dirk has been suspended for today's game per rotoworld. It may be my excuse to trade him.
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| 57 | Comic Book Guy
ID: 20817160
Mon, Dec 29, 2008, 02:14
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Has anyone's WWR ever been so much better than his ranking within his GMD team? I hope I can stop letting this team down. Finally getting rid of Hawes will be a start.
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| 59 | Comic Book Guy
ID: 20817160
Mon, Dec 29, 2008, 17:45
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What are everyone's plans for all the highly owned guards? I'm planning to keep Paul through whatever because there's no one nearly as good to trade him for: is that the consensus? Harris has to go Jan. 4 but is anyone dropping him earlier? (I'm actually considering dropping him tomorrow myself since it would allow me enough money to upgrade from Hawes to a basketball player). Stuckey I assume will be kept by almost everyone (except for GMoney if you've read that thread) for several more weeks. The tough one is Rondo. I know he'll be sold by some starting today, but I'd like to keep him until Jan. 13 or even all the way until Jan. 23 when he trades perfectly back into Harris (that could really be financial suicide).
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| 60 | twolves
ID: 199251719
Mon, Dec 29, 2008, 18:29
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I was originally thinking of banking alot of trades and still not quite sure what to do here as money is still important and Wade is the x factor. I will probably hold Harris until 1/4 or longer. I am more inclined to trade Rondo than Harris if I had to choose because of short term schedule this week. I may trade Stuckey but have way back but the question may be whether a NY guard can equal Stuckey, Rondo or Harris or combo of Rondo/Harris/stuckey outperforms Wade/?.
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| 61 | dpr
ID: 2511262911
Mon, Dec 29, 2008, 20:56
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I dont ahve plans to move rondo, stuckey or paul. Not quite sure on harris. likely try to get wade out of him.
FOr tomorrow I ahve to move Nene now and am thinking of diaw. FOr a second trade would you guys orefer moving harris to wade or simmons to M&M. Harris to wade can be made a few days later without losing games but likely some points and cash. Tomorrow is the most efficiant day to move simmons to mbah a moute tho.
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| 62 | Comic Book Guy
ID: 20817160
Mon, Dec 29, 2008, 21:12
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dpr,
If you're going to make both trades anyway, you might as well make the Mbah a Moute trade first. One game of Mbah + one game of Harris figures to outscore one game of Wade, plus I think Mbah will outdollar Wade (he made 50K yesterday on the first of two off days), though Harris will lose money and Simmons can't. Nene's massive losses tomorrow should mute Harris', plus now some people will use their last trade on Nene instead of Harris.
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| 63 | twolves
ID: 199251719
Mon, Dec 29, 2008, 21:26
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The Nene thing may make things more diffcult to figure out. Fortunately made no moves so far tonight. Will likely keep Stuckey now.
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| 64 | Comic Book Guy
ID: 20817160
Mon, Dec 29, 2008, 23:41
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Thankfully I was all set to trade Nene for Granger tomorrow anyway, so my damage is limited to the one DNP. And I am Hawes-less!
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| 66 | bd
ID: 299112113
Tue, Dec 30, 2008, 10:52
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Will be swamped today and don't have much time to look things over. I have Nene and already have Granger. I have 1 trade & $2.44 so am $.1 short of going to Camby.
My first thoughts are:
1) Nene --> Lee today
2) Nene/Rondo --> Howard/N. Robinson tomorrow (meaning I would have to eat Nene's loss today ($140K or so)
3) Nene--> Mbah a Moute today, then Rondo --> Howard tomorrow.
I had Mbah a Moute earlier in the year and he was doing fine, then he suddenly seemed to disappear and didn't get much playing time. I am worried this might happen again.
Buying a NY player tomorrow doesn't seem to be the best time as their short term schedule isn't great.
If I sell Rondo I plan on Harris --> Rondo on the 4th.
Thoughts / Suggestions????
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| 67 | Fairplay
ID: 2611203010
Tue, Dec 30, 2008, 11:28
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Mbah looks to be the flavor of choice right now. With Nene's huge loss tonight and Mbah's continal gain, you main garner 200K+ in just one move. Pretty tempting I must say.
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| 68 | twolves
ID: 199251719
Tue, Dec 30, 2008, 11:47
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bd,
I think Nene probably needs to go today since you have a trade, so would rule out #2.
I like #3 better than #1 since getting Howard, but Lee certainly has the potential of a long term hold which I assume would be your plan despite short term schedule. Lee may have Curry on the horizon and Luc has M. Allen currently.
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| 69 | bd
ID: 299112113
Tue, Dec 30, 2008, 14:43
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Couldn't get into rotoguru this AM and had to e-mail the spreadsheet to work and try from there (which has caused problems previously). I thought everything looked OK but when I look at ownership numbers for our team they all show 0 and indicate we all sold our players yesterday. The points and everything look fine though. I won't be home until very late tonight where I can run the spreadsheet so our ownership numbers may be off.
I was looking to see if anyone owned Jermaine O'Neal as sportsnetwork.com lists him as questionable with flu-like symptoms.
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| 70 | C. Bird
ID: 1203221
Tue, Dec 30, 2008, 16:14
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I am moving Nene for Murphy x 5. Next week I will move Harris for Duhon after his 3 in 4. That should be it for me.
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| 71 | Comic Book Guy
ID: 20817160
Tue, Dec 30, 2008, 18:45
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68
I doubt that Curry would cut into Lee's time. He doesn't seem like a D'Antoni player at all, more like a mistake from the previous regime to be kept at a distance a la Starbury.
BTW, anyone ever notice that for all his faults, Isiah was a heckuva drafter---Lee, Robinson, Chandler, Ariza, Balkman (who I still like) all with low #1's or #2's?
I've never understood what Malik Allen does that keeps him in the NBA---he must be a REALLY nice guy.
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| 72 | Comic Book Guy
ID: 20817160
Wed, Dec 31, 2008, 02:11
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For those buying Howard tomorrow, I thought I'd point out that it's a day game---2 p.m. EDT starting time.
qwert, thanks for suggesting I hold Duncan and get Jefferson before Howard: it got me 94 points for one trade. You have a big enough lead that you can afford to give me advice!
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| 74 | qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Wed, Dec 31, 2008, 08:52
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72
I was really just trying to bring you down with me if the plan didn't work out ;)
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| 75 | Donkey Hunter
Leader
ID: 916288962
Wed, Dec 31, 2008, 11:15
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I am looking to get rid of Gay and Perkins today. I have about 11 million to spend so not enough for Howard. I am leaning towards Yao/Cheapie but really dont wanna get Mbah a Moute. Anyone got other cheapie advice for me? Chris Andersen? Bobby Simmons? Please just talk me out of Mbah a Moute.
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| 76 | Donkey Hunter
Leader
ID: 916288962
Wed, Dec 31, 2008, 11:27
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Jared Jeffries?
Or maybe instead of Yao/Cheapie get two mid ranged guys? I am not liking any of these cheapies.
Bogut/Murphy?
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| 77 | DrD
Donor
ID: 034735159
Wed, Dec 31, 2008, 13:05
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Mbah a Moute is already pulling his dissappearing act, but schedule is great! Bobby Simmons is a G/F and gives you some flexibility.
Chris Andersen started at center because of Nene's injury.
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| 78 | Comic Book Guy
ID: 20817160
Wed, Dec 31, 2008, 13:36
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76
If you (understandably) don't want Mbah, you may as well go Bogut/Murphy. You'd get two guys who average in the low 30's instead of roughly 40 + 20 without the risk of a player whose minutes could disappear, plus you'd have two long schedules and two guys with low ownership (Bogut won't break the gravity line until today).
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| 80 | twolves
ID: 251139910
Fri, Jan 02, 2009, 16:15
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Well, I think I was definitely wrong on Mbah, will probably dump him today to cut my losses and headaches. Nothing like a day off to get a itchy trigger finger although I am not sure I like alot of the alternatives.
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| 81 | Maineac
Donor
ID: 26110315
Fri, Jan 02, 2009, 17:40
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I was way too smart to take Mbah. I took Spiets or Speits or whatever. I don't remember why but probably because it was easier to spell. Ugh! Why do we do that?
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| 82 | Comic Book Guy
ID: 20817160
Fri, Jan 02, 2009, 18:53
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Glenn, you're too funny.
Holding Mbah through the back to back, then trading him for Millsap with the money I gain from trading Harris for probably Duhon. I never had any long term plans for Mbah anyway, I just needed someone who wasn't Hawes for awhile. I'm actually thinking Mbah could get a lot of minutes in two games against Charlotte---he matches up very well with Diaw IMHO.
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| 83 | twolves
Dude
ID: 811161317
Fri, Jan 02, 2009, 19:27
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Mbah last game against Charlotte was not great but I think Charlotte went with a different lineup at that time with Richardson.
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| 84 | bd
ID: 389151123
Sat, Jan 03, 2009, 08:55
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| Rank | GurupieName | LSWP0 | LSWP | LSWP5 | WWR | FV | Cash | RV | FVC | Trades | | 1 | qwert-215 | 5953.5 | 410 | 594 | 1 | 66.88 | 1.34 | 65.54 | 0.26 | 2 | | 2 | twolves-128 | 5762.5 | 396 | 632 | 42 | 64.33 | 0.06 | 64.27 | 0.45 | 2 | | 3 | Donkey Hunter-1561 | 5598 | 407.5 | 519 | 442 | 57.62 | 1.32 | 56.30 | 0.13 | 3 | | 4 | Coach Bird-983 | 5561 | 407 | 562 | 100 | 63.21 | 3.28 | 59.93 | 0.05 | 4 | | 5 | dpr-315 | 5475.5 | 362 | 502 | 94 | 64.57 | 0.72 | 63.85 | 0.09 | 3 | | 6 | Maineac-277 | 5468 | 370 | 516 | 268 | 56.81 | 0.66 | 56.15 | 0.31 | 1 | | 7 | Comic Book Guy-1245 | 5462 | 378 | 480 | 4 | 62.70 | 0.53 | 62.17 | 0.01 | 3 | | 8 | bd-967 | 5282 | 311 | 451 | 400 | 58.38 | 1.82 | 56.56 | -0.01 | 3 | | 9 | wolfer-1899 | 5062 | 361 | 550.5 | 227 | 55.82 | 4.28 | 51.54 | -0.22 | 3 |
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| 85 | Maineac
Donor
ID: 26110315
Sun, Jan 04, 2009, 06:46
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**AMBER ALERT**
Our leader has "gone missing" (does anyone hate that as much as I do?). What ever happened to disappeared? (dpr?) He also hasn't logged into our D&T league since 12/26 so he may have gone to Aruba looking for Natalie over Christmas break. Should one of us start a TP3 thread?
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