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Posted by: dpr
- [13443116] Thu, Jan 15, 2009, 09:28

Welcome to the team Rude boy and welcome back DrD
1DrD
      Donor
      ID: 034735159
      Thu, Jan 15, 2009, 09:50
Glad to be back with my son-in-law and the rest of y'all. Please send me your e-mail addresses.
Thanks,
DrD (Lily Baby)
2DrD
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      ID: 034735159
      Thu, Jan 15, 2009, 09:53
My E-mail address is drjdavies@sbcglobal.net
Post your e-mail if that is easier.
4Comic Book Guy
      ID: 20817160
      Thu, Jan 15, 2009, 12:27
(A repeat of my post in the now outdated previous thread.)

I can trade Ariza for a player costing up to 4.66. Should I trade him for Bargnani before the freeze today or should I wait in case there's positive news on Millsap?

I'm very pleased to get Foye on the first possible logical day and to be rid of Kidd forever (eccch!)
5qwert
      ID: 490561411
      Thu, Jan 15, 2009, 13:46
I would think the first possible logical day to trade kidd to foye is today.

Would that give you enough cash to move Ariza for Camby on Saturday?

If so that sounds ideal I think.
6twolves
      ID: 161542014
      Thu, Jan 15, 2009, 14:48
I am not sure I would hold for Millsap as the injury sounds like it will keep him out this weekend especially with a b to b. I might look for a way next Tuesday.

I guess I would take Bargnani over Millsap today but the news of JO'Neal still overhangs things after Friday. Ariza could still be held through friday where more news wold be available for both Bargnani and Millsap.

Any thoughts on Stoudamire and Wade today??

7bd
      ID: 299112113
      Thu, Jan 15, 2009, 15:03
This week I plan on getting out of Dirk and Bosh. I'll need to trade B. Gordon either this week or trade refresh. I will probably end up with LeBron, Camby and then either B. Miller or D. Harris from these trades.

I could work Dirk/Bosh to LeBron/Stoudemire today but doing this doesn't leave me a way into Camby.

How long will people hold LeBron? Will they sell for Wade after the back/back and then return to him. I don't think I have enough trades for that.

8qwert
      ID: 490561411
      Thu, Jan 15, 2009, 15:32
a little too aggressive for me...I'll hold at least until 1/24 for a quick rotation...or hold him until 2/4.
9Comic Book Guy
      ID: 20817160
      Thu, Jan 15, 2009, 20:45
What I'm going to do is hold Ariza, trade him for Millsap if he happens to be in the lineup, and if not trade him for Diaw on Saturday. As hot as Bargnani's been, he brings too much uncertainty, has already made most of his money and has a schedule gap soon.
10qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Thu, Jan 15, 2009, 20:55
CBG...what's your plan for the cash from Kidd to Foye?

11Comic Book Guy
      ID: 20817160
      Thu, Jan 15, 2009, 21:05
10

Most of it went for getting LeBron from Jamison.

I love Foye's schedule from a money making standpoint. It semi-starts on a Friday, which always gets a double payday from Thursday buys, then it has the unusual Monday/Tuesday back to back that follows a Sunday with only two games. Then the schedule starts in earnest on a Friday so that's another double payday. He has 6 buy days before the schedule even gets good.
12qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Thu, Jan 15, 2009, 21:07
oh I agree...didn't know about the jamison part, I thought it could be used on Ariza. sounds good!
15bd
      ID: 26254216
      Sat, Jan 17, 2009, 09:19
Bosh --> Camby for me today.
At trade refresh I'll move B. Gordon. Options I'm looking at right now are D. Harris, B. Miller or Foye.
16DrD
      Donor
      ID: 034735159
      Sat, Jan 17, 2009, 10:11
bd, have you looked at Mardi Collins?
17Comic Book Guy
      ID: 20817160
      Sat, Jan 17, 2009, 13:03
My plans now revolve around getting far enough under the cap to get Wade from Duhon next Saturday. I passed on Wade the last time around, preferring to go Harris > Duhon and upgrade elsewhere, and not having Wade has been Hell. I can raise the money by going Duncan > Camby and Okur > Blatche (or Warrick if money is tight). Do you guys have a plan for getting Wade?

I'm also considering going Granger > Camby tonight (at gametime of course because it's Camby), then triangling back to Granger. I'd get 3 games to 2 and I assume Camby will be the big gainer both today and Monday. Is this worth a trade?
18twolves
      Dude
      ID: 811161317
      Sat, Jan 17, 2009, 13:55
If you think money will be tight to get Wade next week, I would consider the Granger to Camby move today as Camby will make money today and Monday. I assume you were thinking Duncan to Camby after Tuesday.

AS always with Camby, have an injury trade near by.
19qwert
      Sustainer
      ID: 2910242819
      Sat, Jan 17, 2009, 14:19
triangling out of Granger into Camby and back in would appear to be worth the trade...it's a straightforward 1 Camby game for 1 extra trade...and you get Camby's gains today while avoiding a big hit on Granger without losing any of his games or his gains which you get starting monday.

Granger to Camby for me today.
20Comic Book Guy
      ID: 20817160
      Sat, Jan 17, 2009, 19:43
18

It's kinda weird getting input from my divisional rival. What a brutal auto division match up---either of us would be running way with almost any other division. I've sure given up a lot of ground lately. Hope I can turn it around.
21Comic Book Guy
      ID: 20817160
      Sat, Jan 17, 2009, 22:36
Had to pass on Granger > Camby because I'd be too low on trades if I have to trade Duhon this week. :(
22Comic Book Guy
      ID: 20817160
      Sun, Jan 18, 2009, 02:48
I think I want to trade Duhon and Okur for Camby and Blatche if Camby is okay and Jefferson and Warrick if Camby is out. Since I have nobody playing Sunday, I think I will just sell Duhon to avoid the money losses and have an invalid roster for a day, the idea of which has me psyched!
24bd
      ID: 26254216
      Sun, Jan 18, 2009, 09:47
I have Camby & Duhon and 1 trade:(

Looks like I'll be keeping an eye on the injury reports today.

25DrD
      Donor
      ID: 034735159
      Sun, Jan 18, 2009, 11:44
Is there a last minute trade you would make involving Camby if he isn't in the starting line-up Monday?
26dpr
      ID: 13443116
      Sun, Jan 18, 2009, 12:37
Looks like my last too trades are going to be to move out of wade and Duhon and I have no idea who i want from either of them. I was planning camby out of wade but now that doesn't look like the best idea.

I have wanted to get foye so may get him from Duhon but then if Duhon doesnt miss a game I am sacrificing a game to make it happen. The money swings should make this worth it tho.

For wade I am not as sure. If I go cheap I could set myself up for reentry into wade or camby from Gordon wednesday. Also I maybe should be looking to move dunleavy as he is in gravity but I can see him improving his production to fit his price as he gets healthy so I don't look at him as a must move.

Cheap options include Shaq, who if there is info that he will play against boston tomorrow could potentially play every game til the ASB. Also brad Miller could be a good option or moving back into millsap.

The best projected studs would be Kobe and duncan but there schedules arent all that great and they would keep me out of wade or camby so I am pretty sure I am looking cheap
27dpr
      ID: 13443116
      Sun, Jan 18, 2009, 12:40
IF my plan is to go cheap with one of those options so I can get back into wade then I am using an extra trade tro get one cheapie game plus avoid some of wades price loss. In this case since I am low on trades it likely doesnt make sense.

Is anyone looking at holding wade?
28twolves
      ID: 161542014
      Sun, Jan 18, 2009, 13:01
With the Camby injury, things are interesting. I was going to use Wade to get back to Granger but may use Camby instead and possibly hold Wade.

It is a matter of trades used and whether a couple of extra "cheapie" games and money would be worth trading Wade.
29Comic Book Guy
      ID: 20817160
      Sun, Jan 18, 2009, 13:24
Camby can be traded for Al Jefferson, or Jefferson can be bought instead of Camby. Conveniently, their teams are playing each other Monday.

Unless there's a good way to triangle back into Wade on Saturday I think holding him is a viable option. I don't think selling players with 1 in 5's should be automatic if you'll want them back right away. I'm currently planning to buy Wade on Wednesday from Duncan, though I could get Kobe instead if affording Wade is a problem.
30dpr
      ID: 13443116
      Sun, Jan 18, 2009, 13:53
I think I am either going to hold wade or trade him to camby if good news comes out. Whichever route I go I need to come up with a plan to pick up the other a few days later and that will most likely involve me moving lee as he is the only player that transitions withouit freeing up tons of money. Lee also fits to camby very nicely next sunday and by then I imagine camby will be safer
31dpr
      ID: 13443116
      Sun, Jan 18, 2009, 14:04
I also have moved foye to duhon but am not sure about it as it appears duhon may play. I likely make this trade in a week anyways.

Using recent averages the trade costs me around 15-30 points. However duhon wit the red cross and the slowing schedule will bleed alot whereas foye will go the opposite direction. For the weak this has to exceed .5M. I think I am keeping the trade. Agree?
32Comic Book Guy
      ID: 20817160
      Sun, Jan 18, 2009, 17:35
If you are going to use the money saved from going Duhon > Foye to immediately upgrade elsewhere definitely do it. You should probably do it no matter what. I agree with your estimate on the money swing. Foye will get paid today, tomorrow, Thursday and Friday (as long as he plays okay) and I think Duhon will be the big loser today---he can be cast aside far more casually than Camby even though he sounds more likely to play.
33bd
      ID: 389151123
      Sun, Jan 18, 2009, 22:26
With pessimistic news coming out about Camby, I moved him to Jefferson and held Duhon.

If you're making trades tomorrow, remember most of the games are in the afternoon.
39Comic Book Guy
      ID: 20817160
      Sat, Jan 24, 2009, 04:26
Is it worth using my last trade on a Saturday to get Eric Gordon from Hakim Warrick (who has a game today but has been worthless the last two games)? I currently have a .06 window, but Gordon is sure to make more than that with so many people trading Stuckey and Mardy. My alternative would be trading Warrick for Blatche on Monday assuming I still have a trade. Gordon's gains will be large while Blatche's will be minimal, I trust Gordon more than Blatche, and I'm inclined to gamble because I'm trailing in my division in both points and money. On the other hand, I would be tradeless on a Saturday....
40twolves
      Dude
      ID: 811161317
      Sat, Jan 24, 2009, 08:11
I might give Warrick another game under the new coach and see what his minutes are related to D. Arthurs. I still like Blatche for a long term hold if that is the option vs. going tradeless today. You could still trade to Gordon on Monday giving up some gains if you like his production better.
42Comic Book Guy
      ID: 20817160
      Sat, Jan 24, 2009, 14:15
40

Thanks for the input: I'm sure it is honest even though you are the division rival I am trailing in points and money! In the first game with a new coach Warrick's minutes were reduced, but I would like to work Blatche in somewhere anyway because I'll probably need him at C at some point. I can get Gordon from Diaw next week, but it would mean not getting his two games this week, one of them vs. GS. I think ultimately I will hold because I don't want to get too carried away with Gordon just because of last night.
43Comic Book Guy
      ID: 20817160
      Sat, Jan 24, 2009, 17:08
I think I will get Gordon today. I figure that if someone gets hurt the money I lose on that player will be no more than the money I won't get by passing on Gordon this week, and that Gordon can get me 15-20 points more than Warrick/Blatche before Wednesday, while taking a DNP would cost me 30-40 points but is less than 50% to happen so it's pretty close and I'd rather take a risk with a team that's not in first place.
44bd
      ID: 16102110
      Sat, Jan 24, 2009, 18:48
Went stuckey to Gordon today and will go duhon or chandler to Foye tomorrow.
46bd
      Sustainer
      ID: 102112811
      Sun, Jan 25, 2009, 09:46
All I did was cheapie swaps this week:(

B. Gordon --> Millsap
Stuckey --> E. Gordon
Duhon --> Foye
C. Wilson --> Thornton

That still leaves me with Blatche and his production and minutes keep declining daily it seems. I am also hoping that Baron Davis, Zach Randolph, Mardy Collins and Marcus Camby decide to shut it down until the all-star break.

Good Luck today guys as I'll be out of touch until after most games start tonight.
47bd
      Sustainer
      ID: 102112811
      Sun, Jan 25, 2009, 09:57
Rude Boy -- Looks like you have Mardy Collins. This report says he is downgraded to doubtful for today's game. I might want to check other sources as this report also doesn't list Redd as being hurt so not sure how up to date it is.
NBA Injuries

48C. Bird
      ID: 4806723
      Sun, Jan 25, 2009, 15:20
Anybody think Josh Smith will break gravity today? Or should I just go with Jefferson from Lee?
49twolves
      Dude
      ID: 811161317
      Sun, Jan 25, 2009, 15:35
I think there is a good chance he may get out today if there are a lot of Lee traders. I am probably going to hold Lee for now as a way to Camby potentially next week.

I like Jefferson with his schedule but Lee has been pretty productive for his price but is the highest owned player.
51Comic Book Guy
      ID: 20817160
      Mon, Jan 26, 2009, 20:07
I lived through the weekend with no injuries, so I'm glad I'm getting Eric Gordon paydays. Thankfully I have only one player I need to move next week so I don't think I'll be in a vicious cycle of being low on trades.

I'm assuming that most people are keeping Millsap in spite of his bad schedule: I doubt so many people would have bought him just for a 4 in 7 or a 3 in 4. What are your thoughts on Millsap? Just keep him as long as Boozer's out?
52twolves
      Dude
      ID: 811161317
      Mon, Jan 26, 2009, 20:46
For his price, it is pretty hard to trade Millsap unless rotating back in and there are not many options. Barring something unusual, I will likely hold until break.

It is amazing how every week it looks like only one trade and a few more disappear. If CAmby plays tonight or WEdnesday it will be interesting to see what that does to trades.
53Comic Book Guy
      ID: 20817160
      Mon, Jan 26, 2009, 21:20
So true about how trades disappear. A couple of weeks ago I thought I'd have more trades than I knew what to do with and now I'm tradeless early. Plans can change so fast: I had Warrick because I thought I needed a player under $1 million to make my subsequent moves, then I made different moves and Warrick turned out to be a mistake. I also have to remember not to be tempted by quick two game advantage in and out trades unless I have a big surplus.
55bd
      Sustainer
      ID: 102112811
      Wed, Jan 28, 2009, 08:10
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2 qwert-215 10894 144.5 2908.5 1 72.51 0.96 71.55 0.18 4
3 Coach Bird-983 10346 122 2837 96 69.34 2.84 66.50 0.31 5
4 Comic Book Guy-1245 10302.5 168 2930.5 27 68.88 0.06 68.82 0.27 4
5 Rude Boy-1353 10291.5 171.5 2809 65 63.26 0.19 63.07 -0.11 4
6 dpr-315 10281 144.5 2778 84 68.74 0.18 68.56 0.25 4
7 bd-967 10175.5 121 2849 212 62.93 0.21 62.72 0.00 4
8 Donkey Hunter-1561 10100.5 130 2710.5 414 61.44 2.25 59.19 -0.18 4
9 DrD-966 9856 203 2828 450 61.30 0.35 60.95 -0.02 4



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