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0 Subject: Trade Rumor Thread - 1/15 & Beyond

Posted by: money4later
- [2111213116] Thu, Jan 15, 2009, 09:32

The Grizzlies are reportedly set to trade Mike Conley to the Bucks for guard Ramon Sessions and forward Joe Alexander, but are waiting to see if the Bucks want to close the deal.
Milwaukee is apparently weighing the proposal as talks are ongoing, according to the Memphis Commercial-Appeal. Whether this deal goes down or not, the jury is still out on the fantasy ramifications. Sessions would have to beat out Kyle Lowry, who has played well, for the starting job. And Conley would likely still be behind Luke Ridnour on the depth chart in Milwaukee. Given the fact this trade is not a sure thing, we still don't think that Sessions is a must-own player right now.
1Mat Cauthon
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      Thu, Jan 15, 2009, 09:43
Wow, they (Milwaukee) soured on Joe Alexander pretty fast, huh?
2Scazmatic
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      Thu, Jan 15, 2009, 10:39
I never understood why they drafted him two days after trading for Richard Jefferson in the first place.
3money4later
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      Tue, Jan 20, 2009, 22:35
Another league source has confirmed that the Bulls and Nets are discussing a trade that would send Larry Hughes to New Jersey in exchange for Bobby Simmons and Maurice Ager.
It's up to the Nets to sign off on the deal, which amounts to the swapping of bad contracts. Hughes is owed $12.8 million this season and $13.7 million next season -- Simmons' is owed $9.9 million this season and $10.6 million next season.
Source: Chicago Sun-Times
4Dean Martin
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      Tue, Feb 10, 2009, 17:12
Pacers and Bobcats involved in serious discussions centered around Raymond Felton
5hills
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      Fri, Feb 13, 2009, 13:12
The Toronto Raptors have agreed to send Jermaine O'Neal and Jamario Moon to the Miami Heat in exchange for Shawn Marion and Marcus Banks, league sources told ESPN The Magazine's Ric Bucher.

The deal is pending league approval, according to sources, and if approved, would be announced later Friday afternoon.
Source ESPN
6CJ
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      Fri, Feb 13, 2009, 23:04
The heat will be soo much better with this trade. Might make O'Neal lift the level of his game as I feel he is capable. He will give the heat a shot blocker again. And then Moon? What is in this for Raptors?
7Mike D
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      Fri, Feb 13, 2009, 23:08
Avoiding or lowering their luxury tax next year when they don't re-sign free agent Marion.
8Comic Book Guy
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      Sat, Feb 14, 2009, 01:56
Moon got thrown in like he was nothing but I think he's a pretty good player: his game is kind of a lower level version of Marion's.
9qwert
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      Sat, Feb 14, 2009, 09:31
much much lower...moon sucks
10Rendle
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      Sat, Feb 14, 2009, 12:02
From Rotoworld:

The Spurs continue to show interest in Nets swingman Vince Carter, most recently offering Roger Mason, George Hill, Fabricio Oberto and Bruce Bowen.

If such a deal took place, New Jersey would immediately waive Oberto and Bowen to get under the 15-man roster limit. No deal is imminent, but it's starting to sound like VC won't be in NJ for much longer.


The Cavaliers have apparently made a bid for Amare Stoudemire, offering the expiring contract of Wally Szczerbiak, rookie J.J. Hickson and a first-round pick.

Anderson Varejao was also mentioned as a possibility, but that package (with or without Varejao) probably isn't better than what the Bulls are offering. The Cavs are also "intrigued" by Clippers center Marcus Camby.


As a Cavs fan I'm not really sold on Amare. Giving up Wally is not a big deal and Varejao leaving isn't a big deal since he's probably gone next year. Hickson has alot of upside. I'm just worried Amare wouldn't play defense and become a problem for the team. I'd much rather go after a Bosh or a Camby.
11Senator Urine
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      Sat, Feb 14, 2009, 12:24
Camby would be a great fit for them, I'd love to see that happen. I'm by no means a Cavs fan but as a fan of basketball it would be amazing to see Lebron and Camby paired up (and frightening for the rest of the league).
12Comic Book Guy
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      Sat, Feb 14, 2009, 20:05
9

Going strictly by numbers, Moon's a good rebounder for a SF and gets both steals and blocks, a rare combination. If you did per minute stat comparisons every year the way I do you'd appreciate him. He's very athletic and not a terrible shooter either---maybe not a starting 3 but a useful role player.
13CJ
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      Sat, Feb 14, 2009, 23:58
12
I agree...Moon has upside for them and might in the end be the sleeper in the deal.

11
I also agree with you...I read post 10 and immediately though what a force Camby would be for them. You have a player like Lebron....you need defense players. My question is where does Z fit in then...to the bench?

10
Spurs seem to be giving a lot up for one player that will probably get hurt, plus Mason has been huge for them this year as he has single handled won three games.
14Rendle
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      Sun, Feb 15, 2009, 00:32
I'm not too familiar with Camby and his flexibility but I'd put Ben on the bench.
15deejay
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      Sun, Feb 15, 2009, 19:31
Terry Porter fired
16Senator Urine
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      Mon, Feb 16, 2009, 17:54
I wonder what the odds are now of Amare getting traded. Hopefully still really high because I want to be rewarded for holding Shaq.

From rotoworld:

Suns interim coach Alvin Gentry said on Monday, "I think we have to go back to trying to establish a breakneck pace like we�ve had in the past."
This is obviously good news for the fantasy value of most Suns, but it could particularly benefit Steve Nash and -- assuming for a moment that he isn't traded at the deadline -- Amare Stoudemire. Another player who should get a boost in value in Gentry's up-tempo system is Leandro Barbosa, who was held somewhat in check under the Terry Porter regime.
17Mat Cauthon
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      Tue, Feb 17, 2009, 13:56
Tyson Chandler headed to OKC, with Chris Wilcox and/or Joe Smith probably going to New Orleans.
18Comic Book Guy
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      Tue, Feb 17, 2009, 20:21
Arent't most of the trades that actually happen not preceded by rumors? Was Chandler to OKC rumored at all? The Gasol to the Lakers trade came completely out of the blue.
19G
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      Tue, Feb 17, 2009, 21:16
O'neal for Marion was out there for several weeks
20qwert
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      Tue, Feb 17, 2009, 21:24
And I heard about the Chandler rumour a few days ago didn't I?
21Mike D
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      Tue, Feb 17, 2009, 22:13
Chandler possibly being moved due to his salary and the need to clear space has been around for at least a week. OKC was a possible destination, but there were several others too.
22Comic Book Guy
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      Wed, Feb 18, 2009, 01:05
O'Neal for Marion I was aware of for awhile, but it still seems to me that the great majority of actual trades either aren't rumored at all (Radmanovic), or we just had an idea that a certain player like Chandler was available but not where he was going or for whom. I think that the more specific the trade rumor the less likely it is to happen. A lot of this is just reporters floating things out there.
23Senator Urine
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      Wed, Feb 18, 2009, 15:46
Anyone know what the actual time of the deadline is?
24deejay
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      Wed, Feb 18, 2009, 16:51
I believe Brad Miller/Salmons are going to Chicago, don't have a link yet...
25deejay
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      Wed, Feb 18, 2009, 16:52
per ESPN:
The Chicago Bulls and Sacramento Kings have reached tentative agreement on a trade sending Andres Nocioni, Drew Gooden and Cedric Simmons to the Kings for Brad Miller and John Salmons, ESPN.com.

One source said the Bulls players were pulled off the team bus Wednesday afternoon and were told they had been traded.

Michael Ruffin of the Bulls also was told be was being traded to Portland in a separate deal, the source added.

Another source said the trade was expected to be finalized by Wednesday evening.

Chris Sheridan covers the NBA for ESPN Insider.
27deejay
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      Thu, Feb 19, 2009, 10:16
23

3PM EST today I believe SU.
28deejay
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      Thu, Feb 19, 2009, 12:48
The Kings have reportedly traded Bobby Brown and Shelden Williams to the T-Wolves for Rashad McCants and Calvin Booth.
None of these players should have a major impact in his new surroundings, but McCants probably has the best shot at fantasy value out of the four. We wouldn't advise adding him in a 10- or 12-team league, but there's a chance he'll get decent minutes in Sacramento and could eventually be a useful source of points and threes.
Source: Sacramento Bee / Rotoworld
29Rendle
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      Thu, Feb 19, 2009, 12:57
Yahoo is reporting the Cavs are discussing trading Wally for Richard Jefferson and Ben Wallace/Sasha Pavlovic for Shaq. Both are obviously upgrades but I have no idea how it would affect the chemistry of the team.
30Perm Dude
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      Thu, Feb 19, 2009, 13:10
Chandler trade vetoed--Chandler has a possible turf toe problem.

Cavs are talking to pretty much everyone these days, looking for upgrades and appear willing to throw around a lot of money. A title for Cleveland would go a long way toward helping them retain LeBron when his contract is up.
31Qwerty123
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      Thu, Feb 19, 2009, 13:12
Steven A. is reporting a Larry Hughes for Jerome James and Tim Thomas trade is close. Hughes would get some time in NY, but James and Thomas would seemingly never see the court in Chicago.
32deejay
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      Thu, Feb 19, 2009, 13:22
New home for Hughes in New York?

K.C. Johnson

The Tribune reported talks with the Knicks centered on a trade sending Larry Hughes to New York for Malik Rose and Jerome James collapsed Wednesday. But a league source said talks were revived Thursday and Hughes could be moving to New York for James and former Bull Tim Thomas.

That would be somewhat hilarious given that the Bulls once sent Tim Thomas home for poor practice habits, exactly one of the reasons the Bulls have distanced themselves from Hughes.

Also, ESPN.com's Chad Ford is reporting the Kings could be moving Andres Nocioni to the Celtics.

link
33deejay
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      Thu, Feb 19, 2009, 13:25
Overview Rumors/Done deals...
34deejay
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      Thu, Feb 19, 2009, 13:27
POSTED: Feb. 19 -- 1:17 p.m. ET


Marc Stein: Word is coming in that the Knicks are closing in on some new players.

It is not immediately clear if this would be two separate trades or a three-way exchange, but I'm hearing that Oklahoma City's Chris Wilcox -- who went back to the Thunder on Wednesday night when the Tyson Chandler trade was rescinded -- and Chicago's Larry Hughes are New York-bound.

To complete the transaction(s), Oklahoma City would get Malik Rose and Chicago would receive Tim Thomas, Jerome James and Anthony Roberson.
35deejay
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      Thu, Feb 19, 2009, 13:47
Malik Rose for Chris Wilcox
Reported on ESPN radio
36deejay
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      Thu, Feb 19, 2009, 15:11
Marc Stein: Looks like we have a fairly significant three-way deal that has been submitted to the league just before the trade deadline.

NBA front-office sources tell ESPN.com that Orlando is acquiring Rafer Alston from Houston to fill the void created at point guard by Jameer Nelson's shoulder injury.

The Rockets will receive Memphis guard Kyle Lowry, Orlando forward Brian Cook and perhaps two other minimum-salaried players to make the finances work.

The Grizzlies will receive a first-round pick from Orlando.
37Rendle
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      Thu, Feb 19, 2009, 15:38
Lame, I feel like the Cavs wasted an opportunity by not dumping Wally.
38Mat Cauthon
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      Thu, Feb 19, 2009, 16:55
37
Doesn't Wally's expiring contract still help them next year when it comes off their books? Or were you looking for more help right now?

And does anyone think that Chris Wilcox's value may have gone up now that he'll be playing for D'Antoni in New York? Does Jared Jeffries start in front of him, or does Wilcox move into the starting 5 spot?
39Rendle
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      Thu, Feb 19, 2009, 20:12
They have the 3rd highest payroll in the league so they're way over the cap. They couldn't sign a big free agent so while a trade would help them this year it would also give them a big contributor next year.

Wally is a guy in the rotation so it wouldn't be so bad if they re-sign him to a one year deal next year. The main thing is they don't add cap space past 2010. That really gives them less options but I thing Camby or Vince Carter would be big time upgrades for this year and next.
40money4later
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      Thu, Feb 19, 2009, 23:07
Anyone have some reliable info on whether Brad Miller or Alston will be suited up for their new teams tomorrow? Might have to trade Noah if Miller's ready to go.
41Dean Martin
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      Thu, Feb 19, 2009, 23:55
Not sure if Miller will be suited up but he is questionable with an abdominal strain according to the sportsnetwork.
42KTx
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      Mon, Feb 23, 2009, 22:25
Anyone know which draft pick the Bulls got Thabo Sefalosha from OKC? I assume it's Denver's or San Antonio's, but can't seem to find any articles stating it
43Dean Martin
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      Mon, Feb 23, 2009, 22:31
KTx - I heard Paxson in an interview mentioning it's from San Antonio
44deejay
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      Wed, Mar 04, 2009, 07:03
Drew Gooden has agreed to terms with the San Antonio Spurs.(RealGM)

And Joe Smith back to Cleveland...
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