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Subject: Weykool's GMD Team - TP1
Posted by: weykool
- [3410292410] Tue, Nov 24, 2009, 11:29
I want to welcome everyone to team Weykool.
We have a very solid team and should be competetive.
Roster:
Weykool
Senator
qwerty123
qert
Florian
dpr
damoose
Donkey Hunter
bd
DrD
I would like everyone to at least check in so we know you are alive.
Also I would like everyone to recommend one player for my own team that will make some friggin money because my RV is really pathetic. |
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| 46 | Senator Urine
ID: 348262116
Wed, Dec 02, 2009, 16:18
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I'd also just move Jennings for Tyreke today. At this point in the season I think 30 points is kind of just background noise compared to that kind of money.
I'm having an issue tonight. Basically last week I got slammed by injuries at game time, and got forced into taking some cheap players. So now I have three cheap GFs: CDR, Morrow, and Brewer.
There are three midranged guys that I'm interested in: Tyreke and Thompson (aka the deaths of me), and Ariza.
I'd like to grab at least one of those three guys this week, and Tyreke is the best of the three. I could
A) sacrifice Dirk's game for Tyreke's game tonight (for the money), and move one of the three to Boozer tomorrow.
B) sell either Morrow or Brewer straight up for Tyreke tonight (I just bought both...sunk costs I guess)
C) Do nothing tonight, move Dirk for Boozer tomorrow, and move one of the three to Tyreke after having more information
I feel that Brewer is the worst production-wise of the three, but he can also be held forever which is something I'd like. CDR is the most volatile at the moment. Morrow "has" to go sooner than the others based on pure schedule, but I think he could have a full week of gains.
Which of the three would you sell? And would you do the A route, B route, or C route?
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| 47 | Qwerty123
ID: 48836289
Wed, Dec 02, 2009, 17:53
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Love that CDR, Morrow, and Brewer are considered cheapies on your team (Darren Collison says hi).
I'd probably go with B and sell Brewer based on his lower production. I'd rule out A since you have better options into Evans than Dirk.
Given your RV edge, you can probably afford to be a little conservative if you're wary of the cheapie decision, though. The cheapies you're considering selling shouldn't lose anything, and you'd just miss out on whatever Evans makes today, which could be muted on a Wednesday.
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| 49 | Senator Urine
ID: 348262116
Wed, Dec 02, 2009, 18:16
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Went for a walk and thought it over, I think it's worth it to wait a day on selling a cheapie for Evans tonight. All three should gain tonight (not as much as Evans, but still) and another night of information could avoid disaster. If I sell Brewer and he puts up 30 or more and then CDR goes single digits, then I'm in a whole lot of trouble. At least one of those three guys needs to be held longterm, and I think Brewer's the only one who will make it. But if he puts up a 5 tonight and CDR goes off for 40, then I'll have to cut my losses and move Brewer to Tyreke instead tomorrow.
The Dirk to Tyreke is still intriguing me though. Tyreke is certainly going to gain more than Dirk, and I've already put in my thoughts about throwing away 30 points for money. But that string of three games where Tyreke was questionable is still bothering me (and moreso, the horrifying Shaq to Durant move from last year).
Since Boozer comes in no matter what tomorrow, it's really just an issue of 1 Dirk vs. 1 Tyreke + $$$. It's just the old situation of trading a healthy Tier 1 player for a possibly banged up Tier 2 player when they play on the same night...
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| 50 | Senator Urine
ID: 348262116
Wed, Dec 02, 2009, 19:32
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Ended up holding Dirk. Second-guessing it a bit due to a possibly tight window, but there were still too many unknowns. Tyreke will either come on board tomorrow or in a few days depending on how he and Brewer / CDR do.
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| 51 | damoose
ID: 181042723
Wed, Dec 02, 2009, 23:01
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Bosh to boozer for me, probably pick up
Evans from someone...should I keep
bargnini?
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| 53 | Florian
ID: 549221910
Thu, Dec 03, 2009, 09:40
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Bosh to Boozer for me as well. That leaves me with only two trades left for the week. I've got Nowitzki, who I'd like to keep, but fear will bleed lots of money in the near term (especially on the 6th). Nobody else on my team really needs to be sold until near week (barring injury), but Chuck Hayes is really irritating me. I've held him through his bad schedule and his production has just gotten worse.
Do I trade Nowitzki tonight (for Nene) and upgrade Hayes tomorrow to Deng and hope nobody gets hurt?
Or do I hold Nowitzki and ignore his possible price losses and sell him on the 6th for Gasol, and figure out what to do with Hayes at that point?
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| 54 | Qwerty123
ID: 48836289
Thu, Dec 03, 2009, 11:18
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Make that one more Bosh to Boozer owner. I think most people were planning on Dirk to Boozer today and Bosh to Gasol on the 6th, but Bosh's game last night has flipped the order. Dirk will still lose some, but the biggest exodus will still come on the 6th, so you'll be in the same boat as everyone else. I sure wouldn't go tradeless on a Friday, though.
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| 55 | dpr
ID: 191149310
Thu, Dec 03, 2009, 11:49
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I had planned melo to boozer tomorrow and bosh to gasol sunday
but with everyone moving bosh today I am not sure I like holding
him. I could move bosh to duncan today who is similar to gasol but
can be picked up today. Or I could move bosh to boozer like
everyone else but I prefer the efficiency of moving to boozer from
melo.
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| 56 | weykool
ID: 36114311
Thu, Dec 03, 2009, 12:04
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Bosh to Booze for me as well.
Florian...I would hold onto dirk until the 6th.
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| 57 | Senator Urine
ID: 348262116
Thu, Dec 03, 2009, 15:10
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Argh, should have went Dirk to Tyreke.
The concrete plan as of now is Dirk to Boozer tonight.
Debating whether to just move Brewer to Tyreke now and throw away Brewer's game tomorrow. It's hard to get a read on the money situation though.
Also kicking around the idea of going Nash to Deron. If I had another trade or two I'd definitely go for it, but I may be a bit strapped. Nash seems like an excellent longterm hold and trade saver, I wasn't expecting his ownership to be this low. But it still makes me nervous holding a guy through weaker portions of the schedule when someone like Deron's available.
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| 58 | Senator Urine
ID: 348262116
Thu, Dec 03, 2009, 15:54
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Also, should those of us ignoring Duncan be ignoring him? He's really been great, but I feel he's always a game away from a random DNP due to the coaching staff.
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| 59 | Qwerty123
ID: 48836289
Thu, Dec 03, 2009, 15:59
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He's a valid alternative, but the risk and slightly higher price than some of the other options argues against him I think.
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| 60 | damoose7474
ID: 59241111
Thu, Dec 03, 2009, 16:28
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i went bosh to boozer, bargnini to deron williams
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| 61 | Senator Urine
ID: 348262116
Thu, Dec 03, 2009, 17:04
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I like those moves a lot.
Going to have to pass on Deron unfortunately. Didn't realize until a few minutes ago how badly those injuries hit me last week, if I take him I'm going to be short on trades. I already basically need nothing to go wrong for a couple weeks...
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| 63 | Donkey Hunter
ID: 568242321
Fri, Dec 04, 2009, 10:04
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WTF? I somehow managed to leave an open roster spot last night.
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| 64 | weykool
ID: 26113049
Fri, Dec 04, 2009, 10:30
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Easy to do with the new plat form because it doesnt return you to your roster when you buy players.
Luckily it was on a low scoring night.
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| 65 | Qwerty123
ID: 48836289
Fri, Dec 04, 2009, 11:55
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Tough RV night. I feel fortunate to have only lost $25.6 million.
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| 66 | damoose7474
ID: 69322111
Fri, Dec 04, 2009, 11:57
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i will try to rerun them. but i know the other team got the same error
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| 67 | Qwerty123
ID: 48836289
Fri, Dec 04, 2009, 12:47
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Don't worry about it. The standings are useful, but not essential. I'm not planning on making a trade for 9 days anyway. Wouldn't that be something?
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| 68 | Senator Urine
ID: 348262116
Fri, Dec 04, 2009, 22:45
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Argh, Morrow was the one I wanted to hold. Just moved him to Tyreke for hopefully a really long term hold.
Brewer looks to have played his way off my team. He'll turn into Thompson tomorrow, again for hopefully a really long term hold.
The only problem is I now have no way to get Ariza...
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| 69 | bd
ID: 51129513
Sat, Dec 05, 2009, 14:29
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want to trade Jennings for Evans... but TSN is down and I am having to leave for a while. Hope I can make it back and able to make trade.
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| 70 | Senator Urine
ID: 348262116
Sat, Dec 05, 2009, 16:49
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I have a huge problem right now.
Basically I have two trades, one player to get rid of (Brewer) and one that I may need to get rid of by week's end (I'm not even going to pretend to say I have any ability to predict CDR's price movement these next few days)
I have enough money for Brewer to Thompson tonight. There are problems with this though:
- It means I'd be trapped with CDR until the end of the week no matter what happens. He's my in to Ariza and taking Thompson ties up the money. To further complicate things, having Thompson and Ariza together severely puts my planned moves at risk.
- I've soured on Thompson. While the Kings schedule is very good longterm for someone like Tyreke, I think Thompson's inconsistency is going to cause problems.
So if I don't take Thompson and just hold Brewer for tonight's game and reevaluate tomorrow, then there's a big problem with that too: There's no one to buy. Can't just do Brewer to Ariza early since Ariza is going to be losing for the next few days as well. So then I'd just be stuck with Brewer, but he'd be losing too all week.
And who knows what CDR's price is going to do over the next few days. I can make a case for it either rising or dropping.
Do you guys have any thoughts? I'm really stuck with this one.
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| 71 | Senator Urine
ID: 348262116
Sat, Dec 05, 2009, 17:50
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As of now, I think I'm just going to hold Brewer for tonight's game. Found some significantly less-owned options that I can live with.
Just as a heads up, I'm essentially one DNP away from going down in flames. I have no emergency trades until the 12/16 refresh, and even then I realistically won't be comfortable until 12/23. This is going to be rough. The Granger / Lou Williams injuries really nailed me and got me caught in some inefficient patch-up rotations.
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| 73 | Senator Urine
ID: 348262116
Sun, Dec 06, 2009, 08:38
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So glad I didn't get Thompson last night. Pretty sure I'm going Brewer to Courtney Lee today. Lee isn't exactly as long of a hold as I'd like, but he seems to fit the bill. Should have good production for the price and get 40 minutes a game while having very low ownership right now. Hoping to fill a hole left by the awfulness of Brewer and make a quick million off of him.
I was thinking hard about Przybilla now that Oden's out but the chance that they'll go small against a lot of teams worries me. There are some other fairly cheap F options that I like, but they ensure that I won't be able to get Kevin Love on my roster at the trade refresh.
At the refresh I'm going to be faced with the decision of Love vs. Ariza. Hopefully Love won't move too much before then with the two days off.
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| 74 | Senator Urine
ID: 348262116
Sun, Dec 06, 2009, 11:25
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Ok, 30 minutes to decide. Basically I have it narrowed down to two options.
1) Brewer to Courtney Lee today, and CDR to Kevin Love on Wednesday at the refresh.
2) Brewer to CJ Watson today, giving me the ability to do CDR to Love tomorrow should CDR stink today.
Basically Plan #1 is what I want to do, but leaves me no CDR insurance should he have a horrendous game today. Plan #2 gives me insurance, but who knows if Watson will stay in the rotation. It would suck watching Lee gain all this money only to have a dead spot on my team for a couple weeks.
If CDR can get 20 I'm safe with #1. The fact that people bought him yesterday inspires a bit of confidence that he'll make it to the refresh.
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| 75 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Sun, Dec 06, 2009, 11:32
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*intruder*
Interesting, you want to essentially swap one Net for another? Why not go the same route and swap Brewer for Love?
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| 76 | Senator Urine
ID: 348262116
Sun, Dec 06, 2009, 11:37
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That's what I wanted to do (flipping Brewer for Love straight up) but I'm short on money. Have to wait for the refresh to free up money from Carmelo. I'd rather not swap one Net for another, but it's an issue of ownership. Lee seems ready to make some noise and is only owned by 29 teams.
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| 77 | Senator Urine
ID: 348262116
Sun, Dec 06, 2009, 11:42
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I should add that in this decision making, I feel that Corey Brewer absolutely has to be sold today. A fairly highly owned player who is losing his minutes who just put up 17.5, 8.5, and a 17 heading into two days off when there are all of these other unowned similarly priced options who could produce twice as much just seems like an automatic sell.
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| 78 | dpr
ID: 552411820
Sun, Dec 06, 2009, 15:48
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picked up oden to finally get out of douglas yesterday and now I have to move him today. Uses my alst trade and leaves me no way out of ilyasovic this week.
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| 79 | Senator Urine
ID: 348262116
Mon, Dec 07, 2009, 05:51
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Thought Brewer's losses would be much higher and that Lee would do much better. Blah. At least CDR will definitely make it to the refresh now. The plan is still to move him to Love then, only downside is there's no way in to Ariza.
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| 82 | Senator Urine
ID: 348262116
Tue, Dec 08, 2009, 15:52
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What do you guys think about Gasol? I think he's one of the hardest players to read. If the Lakers blow people out he'll get his minutes cut, but at the same time he can pile up stats quickly and may be the reason the Lakers are blowing the other team out in the first place. Can't tell if he'll average over 40 or low 30s.
All of my plans included him but also have me going tradeless midweek. I've found a comparable one that might actually get more points and money (it's a crapshoot of course since the rotations are complicated) that doesn't leave me tradeless this week, but I'd hate passing on that schedule if he gets on a roll.
Everyone confident in Love even with the early price movement?
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| 83 | Qwerty123
ID: 48836289
Tue, Dec 08, 2009, 16:22
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I think Gasol is a pretty good value at $8 million. The schedule is a little choppy, but overall pretty strong, especially around Christmas. I could see the price and performance vacillating, but in the end, I think he'll be a solid choice.
As for Love, I'm debating between him now or Westbrook on the 13th. In 2 games so far, Love has averaged 36.5 in only 25 mins. Presumably his minutes will tick up as he regains strength. He averaged 25 TSNP/g last year and upped it to 28 in the final month. Meanwhile, Westbrook is at 32 for the year and 26 in the last week. Any preference?
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| 84 | Senator Urine
ID: 348262116
Tue, Dec 08, 2009, 18:27
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I think you and I are in a very similar boat. I just ran a points analysis on five plans I had using 7, 15, 30, max, min averages and every single time my no-Gasol and Gasol plans that involved buying Love tonight came out way on top...until I reran it with my best guess (which was a bit more conservative on Love and more giving towards Westbrook) and then the Westbrook plan came out well on top...
It's a shame we have such a small sample size on Love, but logically it seems as if he's slated to perform excellently. The team stinks, he's young so he should get minutes anyway, his minutes should gradually increase, he has a phenomenal rebounding rate, second year improvement factor, etc...everything's shaping up to say he'll be very good.
At the same time, Westbrook is another one of the hardest players to predict. If you told me he'd average 35-40 over the next couple weeks, I'd believe you, and I'd also believe you if you told me he'd average 25-30. For some reason my natural inclination is to give him the benefit of the doubt, but maybe I'm just being an idiot because the numbers all point to him being a low 30s guy over time (they actually show him to be less than that, but I can't stop giving him the benefit of the doubt for some reason).
The +160 for Love last night was a bit surprising, especially for a night he didn't play when he only gained 100k the night before. I have a feeling we may see a +200 toinght, and this is coming from someone who's still debating what to do and would prefer his ownership stay low even if I buy him.
Right now my head is telling me Love, my gut is telling me Westbrook. For what it's worth I'll probably end up listening to my head, but my head doesn't leave me tradeless whereas my gut does.
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| 85 | damoose
Sustainer
ID: 181042723
Tue, Dec 08, 2009, 18:29
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I personally went to love this morning
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| 86 | Senator Urine
ID: 348262116
Tue, Dec 08, 2009, 19:04
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Ended up going with Love (with five seconds to spare, that was way too close, my CPU randomly lagged behind a few minutes). Good luck guys, I'm checking out for the night.
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| 87 | Qwerty123
ID: 48836289
Tue, Dec 08, 2009, 19:12
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FWIW, I am going with Westbrook rather than Love. I'm just more comfortable with him. I also worry about expectations getting too wild for Love.
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| 88 | Florian
ID: 549221910
Wed, Dec 09, 2009, 10:01
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Have 4 shiny new trades. Have 3.68 million in cash.
Plan to trade Ellis later this week. Possibly for Durant on the 13th, which will likely require about 1.8 millions in cash.
I still have Chuck Hayes on my team (always seemed to out of trades). His schedule is finally good again, but he is only putting up 15-17 ppg. I could upgrade him to Ariza, but that would mean I couldn't move Ellis for Durant unless I sold someone else as well on the 13th to free up cash (likely it would be Boozer or Noah, neither of which has to be sold then).
Which option to you guys prefer:
A. Hayes for Ariza today. Ellis/Boozer for Camby/Durant on the 13th. Hold Noah. Hope for no injuries.
B. Hold Hayes. Ellis for Durant on the 13th. If price don't change too much I could sell Noah for Camby on the 13th as well. Hold Boozer.
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| 90 | Senator Urine
ID: 348262116
Wed, Dec 09, 2009, 16:23
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Looks like no Gasol for me. Ariza comes in tonight instead to facilitate moves later in the week. Annoying thing is I can afford him from Nash (or other spots) but doing so would guarantee I'm tradeless starting on Sunday, and today is only Wednesday. I'm assuming you agree that this is too risky and that Nash should be held until 12/27 or 12/29?
How long is everyone planning on holding CDR? My plan is to get rid of him tomorrow, but I found a rotation that, while costing an extra trade, could be worth it. The only thing is if a sell-off occurs sometime this week then I end up tradeless.
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| 91 | dpr
ID: 552411820
Wed, Dec 09, 2009, 16:27
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I intend to hold CDR for now. I am down to 2 trades today after getting gasol and ariza and can't go down to 1 this early. Last 2 are for morrow, ellis, cdr or maybe noah this week. Hopefully some of them make it thru fine.
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| 92 | bd
ID: 299112113
Wed, Dec 09, 2009, 16:28
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Carmello/Frye --> Gasol/Ariza today for me. Haven't had time to devote to looking much futher than day to day, so don't know what plans are for the balance of the week.
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| 93 | Senator Urine
ID: 348262116
Wed, Dec 09, 2009, 17:18
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Argh, no matter how hard I try, the only way I can get Gasol leaves me tradeless on Sunday. Points-wise it should basically be a wash. Would I be crazy to go for it?
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| 94 | dpr
ID: 552411820
Wed, Dec 09, 2009, 17:23
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Looking at your team, you dont have anyone who needs to go this week. Melo, lee, CDR, noah all get consideration as well as maybe the pheonix guys tho u seem to be set to keep them. What are your plans for those players that they need to be moved?
Personally, I used melo as my in to gasol. was he the way you got ariza? It doesnt seem any of those players need to be sold this week so you could trade them monday instead of saturday or whatever, to preserve your trades.
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| 95 | Senator Urine
ID: 348262116
Wed, Dec 09, 2009, 17:29
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My planned rotation is Carmelo to Ariza tonight, CDR to Durant tomorrow, Noah to Camby on Sunday. Any trade to Gasol loses me an in to Durant, so then Boozer has to be sold to get him (which I don't want to do and would leave me tradeless).
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| 96 | dpr
ID: 552411820
Wed, Dec 09, 2009, 17:37
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If you went noah to durant instead of camby you could fit gasol in. It looks like it would lose a game til camby's sell date but would get you a player who can be held longer.
I likely will be choosing between durant and camby when I move out of ellis later this week.
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| 97 | Senator Urine
ID: 348262116
Wed, Dec 09, 2009, 17:43
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It's a weird rotation though, I'm tentatively planning on grabbing Kobe next week because I'm assuming he will not have moved in price nearly as much as Gasol, if at all. So I still end up getting those Laker games in that slot. It feels right now as if Camby is essential.
Crap, late for practice. Be back in a couple hours to think this through some more. But I think the only way I can do it is by going tradeless...
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| 98 | dpr
ID: 552411820
Wed, Dec 09, 2009, 17:51
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What about boozer to gasol tuesday morning? You said you needed to sacrifice Boozer to get gasol anyways. not sure this loses you any games tho obviously lose some money gains. May be worth it for the security of not going tradeless.
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| 99 | Senator Urine
ID: 348262116
Wed, Dec 09, 2009, 20:51
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With CDR's dump-in-progress tonight, I think I have to pass on Gasol unfortunately (and definitely hold both Frye and Nash). Next week I'll just grab Kobe instead probably.
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| 100 | damoose7474
ID: 59241111
Thu, Dec 10, 2009, 01:18
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What should I do with Jason Thompson? I got like 3.89 million to upgrade. Is everyone holding him through the 1/5. I'm lacking behind in RV and don't want to lose even more money. I got 4 trades.
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| 101 | damoose
Sustainer
ID: 181042723
Thu, Dec 10, 2009, 08:18
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When is Noah due to be traded?
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| 102 | damoose
ID: 231122108
Thu, Dec 10, 2009, 09:23
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