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0 Subject: Gurupie 20 :: 2012-13 Pre Season Discussion

Posted by: Perm Dude
- [3210201915] Tue, Oct 09, 2012, 15:33

Let's get this going. Check in here.

Tosh's earlier post:

So ... what's the status here?

I personally lost a bunch of enthusiasm for the NBA after the lockout last season. I honestly did not care if they played or not.

Once they agreed to play, Gurupie20 had a terrible time getting started. It was way too close to XMas, and the regular Commish's were unable to get things organized. It was only the Greatness of the Guru himself that we started on time. Thanks again for that Guru!

So here we go ...
1. Who are the Commissioners?
2. Is everyone returning?
3. What is the keeper deadline? (Currently set for Noon on Tuesday 10/16)
4. When does the draft start? (Currently set for Noon on Thursday 10/18)
5. When are we processing the lottery?
6. Are we drafting at drafttime again?

FYI - Five teams have announced their keepers at the website.

More questions as I think of them ...
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152KnicksFan
      ID: 5793698
      Mon, Oct 22, 2012, 12:11
Had to go homer and pick Copeland. With Stoudemire out, I may actually get to use him!
153Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Oct 22, 2012, 12:54
Dues notice was just sent out directly from ESPN. If you do not receive it, please email me and I'll send it directly to you.
154Perm Dude
      ID: 3210201915
      Mon, Oct 22, 2012, 13:31
Have we ever had this many guys time out in the first 4 rounds like this? I must not be the only one not quite into hoops mode!
156beastiemiked
      ID: 38255111
      Mon, Oct 22, 2012, 16:28
Cornering the market on backup PG's. Need to Tonya Harding some of the starters in front of them.
157Perm Dude
      ID: 3210201915
      Mon, Oct 22, 2012, 16:31
Nice p/u with Brooks, bmd. I was going between him and Ariza but had to go with the starter.
158Pacers Rule
      Leader
      ID: 910311210
      Mon, Oct 22, 2012, 17:40
Man Brooks looked good in limited minutes versus the Lakers last night. I was considering him with my last pick also, but then I also remembered it was Steve Nash defending him...and not only that, but Steve Nash with a bad wheel! Still he was in my queue for the fifth round, so he may well have not been there had you not snatched him up.
159RecycledSpinalFluid
      Dude
      ID: 204401122
      Mon, Oct 22, 2012, 18:23
I considered him at 4.01, but I would have had to wait a long time for him to get Center eligibility.
160RecycledSpinalFluid
      Dude
      ID: 204401122
      Tue, Oct 23, 2012, 21:39
I love all these mid to late 5th round picks.
161Frick
      ID: 157331422
      Tue, Oct 23, 2012, 22:21
You mean the "holy crap, I thought that guy was retired" picks? Or the, "that guy actually made a roster" picks?
162Perm Dude
      ID: 3210201915
      Tue, Oct 23, 2012, 22:23
Ha! Yeah, I'm having to look up about half these guys at this point in the draft.
163RecycledSpinalFluid
      Dude
      ID: 204401122
      Tue, Oct 23, 2012, 22:40
LOL...no, I've been in the 'lets find sucky players for my roster' mode for so long, I actually like all these guys.
164Pacers Rule
      Leader
      ID: 910311210
      Tue, Oct 23, 2012, 23:05
Frick I notice you only have one Pacer on your roster. Ref and I both got our homer picks in. My homer led the Pacers in plus/minus tonight. Also, Mahinmi seems better than I thought he would be. He reminds me of Antonio Davis in terms of his physique but seems a little more athletic.

165RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 1895240
      Wed, Oct 24, 2012, 01:05
I was going to comment on that Green pick. Its a great pick AND a homer pick. Can't beat that combo!
166skinneej
      ID: 14911313
      Wed, Oct 24, 2012, 13:09
Its funny that at this stage of the draft, you can still have your top three queued players picked off. Aminu, Amir and Camby all in order ha! Settled for Cole so maybe he can get some nice action if Chalmers is slow to recover.
167Perm Dude
      ID: 3210201915
      Wed, Oct 24, 2012, 13:44
Yeah, I had Aminu in the queue for quite some time. Last round lottery picks.
168Great One
      ID: 2431114
      Wed, Oct 24, 2012, 13:48
Camby's on the trade block!
169Perm Dude
      ID: 3210201915
      Wed, Oct 24, 2012, 13:48
Thanks to whoever was adding my players before. I completely zoned on doing that until the last pick.
170Pacers Rule
      Leader
      ID: 910311210
      Wed, Oct 24, 2012, 16:18
Thanks, RSF. I always feel all my homer picks are great picks though. Isn't that a general rule about homer picks?

Any time you can get a player you feel will contribute at pick 216 you have to feel good about that, and I do think he will contribute this year.

If we are staying at 90 games per position, however, I might have to dump Harrington for a player that can contribute at least a rebound a game while he's out.
171Ref
      ID: 34731299
      Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 12:56
Does everyone have their players? What is the protocol on picking up FAs?
172Tosh
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 13:06
Two years ago, at the conclusion of the draft ... I (using Commish powers) reset the draft to keeper status, and manually re-entered all the players. That gave us correct rosters, players all on waivers, and a correct waiver order. I seem to remember it being a fairly painless process.

Last year was just a free-for-all because it was so close to XMas.

I think it is up to Species how he wants this to operate. Time to speak up man!! But no one should pick up any players until this is decided.

There has also been discussion about the GP limit. We should get that figured out. 90 games per position, or 720 games total??
173Ref
      ID: 34731299
      Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 13:34
It was always per position but I think ESPN wouldn't allow it when we first started. Personally, I don't really care.
174Tosh
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 13:46
You are correct Ref. It was always by position. ESPN did not have that option in our first year at that site, so we went to 720.

ESPN re-added thae 'by position' option last season, so we went back to the original rules.
175Great One
      ID: 2431114
      Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 13:53
At first I didn't like the non-position specific total of 720. BUT I came around on it -- especially in such a deep league it gave me more options with players and free agents as I wasn't tied to filling in extra games with some crappy backup C or something like that.

I think a good compromise of too many games (90 per is a lot and difficult to get to) and specific spots might be to pull the 720 down to an even 700 which chops a few games off per spot and is easy to remember.
176beastiemiked
      ID: 38255111
      Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 13:58
Pretty sure last year we decided on totaling the games played and not separating per position.

I'm always in favor of lowering games played. You get completely screwed in this league if you have 1-2 guys go down for extended time. Plus, it's almost impossible to hold a young guy that isn't getting significant minutes unless you are already out of it.

I think we should vote for next year on it since changing it this year might hurt some teams strategies.

Should games played be lowered? If yes, I think we should give 2 options. Down to 86 or down to 82 per position.

177KnicksFan
      ID: 5793698
      Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 14:57
I remember last season being separated by position.
178Perm Dude
      ID: 3210201915
      Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 15:26
That's right. Each position had a limit.
179Pacers Rule
      Leader
      ID: 910311210
      Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 16:35
We must all be getting old.
180Species
      ID: 124591311
      Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 17:09
Tosh 172 - technically we should send the entire FA pool on waivers. I am in no position to do that - in the way you described - in the next 2 days. If I need to empower a volunteer that can assist, I would be happy to do so.
181Species
      ID: 124591311
      Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 17:24
I have (at least) been able to fix the draft order....which is inverse of the draft order (without lottery).
182Tosh
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 17:26
OK. I will go ahead and re-enter all the drafted players this evening.

I will announce in this thread when I am complete, and managers can place waiver claims.
183RecycledSpinalFluid
      Dude
      ID: 204401122
      Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 20:00
I'm trying to figure which PG I want to pick up, Allen Iverson or Gilbert Arenas. Shoot the only other consideration might be Stephon Marbury...
184Tosh
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 23:44
Draft results have been entered. An extra thanks to managers that drafted players in the same part of the alphabet.

Players are all now on waivers. Species had entered the waiver order backwards (where the defending champ had the #1 pick), so I reversed them back.

Let's get this season rolling! Good luck to everyone.

185Species
      ID: 124591311
      Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 23:50
184: You mean we penalize the winners TWICE? Both with the last picks in the draft AND last waivers? Ouch!

Thanks tho, bro :)

PS - Go Giants!!
186Tosh
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Fri, Oct 26, 2012, 00:01
It sucks to be the winner. But really, it would have been 20 picks since the last place team has had a pick. It only makes sense that they get the #1 claim.

I didn't realize that Mr. Insignificant was Vince Carter. How the mighty have fallen.

187Tosh
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Fri, Oct 26, 2012, 01:56
Re: 183 - I currently have two players on my roster with a lower ownership % than Shaquille O'Neal
188Pacers Rule
      Leader
      ID: 910311210
      Fri, Oct 26, 2012, 13:03
That's unbelievably funny
189Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Oct 30, 2012, 13:06
I'm currently without power, and some of my files (including those for G20 dues) are not currently available. But I know that there are still some people who have not yet anted up for this season.

I've copied the email below, since I know that some of you have trouble receiving email directly from ESPN.
From the G20 Hoops Treasurer:

Prize pool dues for 2012-13 will again be $15. Your payment is due by the end of October. If you do not pay by then, I reserve the right to hound you privately and ridicule you publicly!

Two members have permanently opted out of the prize pool: Perm Dude and Pistol Pete. There is no trophy pool assessment this year, as the trophy fund is already adequate for this year.

The other 18 returning managers are in the pool, and expected to contribute each year.

The following 8 members already have sufficient funds on account – either from last year, or from G20 baseball - to pay the full amount, and therefore owe nothing this year:
Beastiemiked
Meatwads
Guru
Pacers Rule
Skinneej
Ref
Tosh
Species

The following two managers have $10 on account, and so only owe $5 for this season:

Coldwater Coyotes
KnicksFan

Everyone else owes the full $15.

You may send your payment in one of two ways:
1. Mail a check for $15 to this address:
[send me an email at davehall@rotoguru2.com for the address]
The check should be payable to Dave Hall.

2. Paypal
Send to davehall@rotoguru2.com. Designate your payment as Personal-Payment owed. If you include a note, just say G20 payment.


I have received checks from Vampire Weekend and Coldwater.

I have received paypal payments from GO and youngroman.

I think that leaves six people still to pay.
190RecycledSpinalFluid
      Dude
      ID: 204401122
      Tue, Oct 30, 2012, 20:59
Oh shoot. I'll get something out to you shortly.
191RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 1895240
      Fri, Nov 02, 2012, 22:09
James 'Freakin' Harding. Enough said.
192beastiemiked
      ID: 38255111
      Fri, Nov 02, 2012, 22:15
Low "freakin" Williams. Oh, you didn't start him ;)
193RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 18109222
      Fri, Nov 02, 2012, 23:09
He's on a ten game suspension.
194beastiemiked
      ID: 38255111
      Fri, Nov 02, 2012, 23:12
Haha, nice. I heard James Harden wants a trade since his coach doesn't even know his name.
195RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 18109222
      Fri, Nov 02, 2012, 23:19
LOL...doh! Mixed him up with Tonya Harding...
196RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 18109222
      Fri, Nov 02, 2012, 23:24
Suppose it could have been "Warren G." also.
197Great One
      ID: 512531316
      Sat, Nov 03, 2012, 00:18
Watching the Clippers foul Howard to force him to shoot FT's one end... and then Blake Griffin shooting them at the other end makes for a pretty ugly game.

Its like DoublehackaShaq.
198KnicksFan
      ID: 281011314
      Sat, Nov 03, 2012, 15:11
Hey Guru,

I just paypalled $5 for this year, and $15 for next year.

Thanks!
199RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 1895240
      Sat, Nov 10, 2012, 00:21
I love Thaddeus Young so much, I think I'm going to marry him.
200Meatwads
      ID: 394921
      Tue, Nov 13, 2012, 00:34
Should someone make a new thread for the regular season? If nobody has any objections, I will volunteer.

On a side note, it looks like beastie miked is on pace to go back-to-back. If anyone has a guard that has more than 1.5 3PM per game and shoots above 80% from the line (with enough attempts per game to have an impact), I'd be interested in discussing a trade. I have a bunch of forwards and centers.
201Perm Dude
      ID: 3210201915
      Tue, Nov 13, 2012, 00:47
Mo Williams coming back from injury, paying 50 (!) minutes tonight.

I don't think he'll take much more of that before he's back on the bench nursing some assorting injury again.
202RecycledSpinalFluid
      Dude
      ID: 204401122
      Tue, Nov 13, 2012, 11:31
Omnis dominus....make it so Meatwads!
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