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0 Subject: Gurupie 20 :: 2012-13 Season 11 Discussion

Posted by: Great One
- [2431114] Tue, Nov 13, 2012, 11:41

G20 Hoops regular season discussion.

Pre-season can be found here....
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31Meatwads
      ID: 394921
      Sat, Dec 01, 2012, 00:11
Thanks for that comment PD. I've tried not to be out of line with trade talks. As you said, people value players differently so that's why I always like to discuss trades via email instead of sending out random offers.

I thought bmd did a good job with the trade but I also think his trade partner did well to receive a 1st rounder for someone he doesn't want to keep. It seemed like a pretty standard trade to me and a win/win. I would be happy adding someone of Feltons caliber if I were contending and I'd be happy getting a 1st round pick if I were playing for the future.

There may be certain managers that think Felton for a draft pick isn't fair but I'm not one of them. Regardless of all that, I'm just trying to give myself a chance to win this year after coming up short last year. I want to make a trade that will help me do that. I have some current good players like Aldridge, Millsap and Duncan available for a similar level guy. I also have some future talent like Barnes and Sullinger available. Hopefully someone wants to discuss something soon before I become a seller myself. :)


32RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 1895240
      Sat, Dec 01, 2012, 00:41
See...I only saw what he wanted, not what I would want in return. Definitely most are not my top keepers...what what am I saying...uh...They are all worth multiple picks each.
33RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 1895240
      Sat, Dec 01, 2012, 00:46
ANNNNNTAAAAAAAAWN!!!! How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.

And when I'm done counting, let me actually put you in my lineup. DOH!
34beastiemiked
      ID: 38255111
      Sat, Dec 01, 2012, 23:02
You'd take Jamal Crawford but not Louis Williams or Ben Gordon? That seems very strange.

35Meatwads
      ID: 394921
      Mon, Dec 03, 2012, 01:12
I didn't realize my attempt to acquire a non-keeper player to help in a couple categories would be such a big topic of conversation. If only this type of attention got me a trade offer or email.

I just used Crawford as an example of the type of player I'd be interested in acquiring. I wasn't specifically saying it has to be him. I'll be happy to explain why I like Crawford over the two players you named though. Jamal Crawford averages more minutes per game, points per game, FT attempts per game and has a higher FT% and FG% than both of them. I also think his production level and role with his team have the best chance to stay consistent.

Would I ultimately settle for someone like Lou or Gordon? Sure. As long as I couldn't get someone that was outperforming both of them in everything that matters to me. Or if I could get them cheaper.
36RecycledSpinalFluid
      Dude
      ID: 204401122
      Fri, Dec 28, 2012, 01:10
Deron, I promise to run the flex-offense more. Please don't get me fired.
37Species
      ID: 91141520
      Sat, Dec 29, 2012, 23:37
I have a couple of players who can make nice 8th/9th guys on a contender:

Emeka Okafor grabs killer OREB and REB while swatting 1.4 shots a game.

Old vets Richard Hamilton (just returning from injury) and Tayshaun Prince offer scoring in the low teens and top FT percentages.

Modest pick upgrades are all that are required.
38Species
      ID: 271152305
      Sun, Dec 30, 2012, 06:53
Okafor trade includes Pete's 3rd for my 5th
39Pete N.
      ID: 381113309
      Sun, Dec 30, 2012, 10:13
Confirmed
40Perm Dude
      ID: 201027169
      Sun, Dec 30, 2012, 14:24
Good trade--Species is selling Okafor at a nice high water mark!
41Species
      ID: 271152305
      Sun, Dec 30, 2012, 16:51
Keep in mind I will be pretty low in the standings.....so depending upon how high Pete finishes, it might barely be 1 round.
42GO
      ID: 811442813
      Tue, Jan 08, 2013, 13:23
Trade
GO's 1st for CC's 5th in the Kirilenko deal
43GO
      ID: 811442813
      Tue, Jan 15, 2013, 08:54
Frustrating to see young guys I carried much of last season in Vukevic and Vazquez doing so well. I though they were good but couldn't find room for them. And Seraphin to a lesser extent.
44Meatwads
      ID: 12058211
      Mon, Jan 21, 2013, 02:59
Harrison Barnes? Jared Sullinger? Picks? If you find yourself interested in any of these questions, please contact me. Just trying to keep up with the Joneses.
45 beastiemiked
      ID: 38255111
      Sat, Jan 26, 2013, 01:26
Looking to unload Josh Smith for a somebody with better FT%. Do not need blocks and points but need every other category.

He was ranked #16 in the player rater last year. He's 54th this year but getting crushed by FT%. It's by far the lowest of his career so I see no reason why he shouldn't eventually get back to his career avg. Only 27 years old so solid longterm keeper.

Not giving him away and will keep him if the right offer doesn't come along. Looking for minimum top 50 type of player. Very unlikely I'd want 2 players for him unless one is a throw in because you like me :)
46Great One
      ID: 120252515
      Tue, Jan 29, 2013, 08:56
My trade above needs to get on the ESPN homepage. Should probably keep a rolling summary here too as backup.

G20 NBA 12-13 Traded Draft Picks
11/26: dpr gets bmd's 1st for his 6th (Felton)
12/30: Species gets Pete's 3rd for his 5th (Okafor)
1/8/: GO's 1st for CC's 5th in the Kirilenko deal
47Species
      ID: 91141520
      Fri, Feb 01, 2013, 08:32
Delfino/Thompson trade includes me receiving Guru's 2nd round pick.....and Guru receiving Pete's 3rd round pick.
48Meatwads
      ID: 36153122
      Sat, Feb 02, 2013, 00:13
After having several trade discussions, it looks like replacing Rondo is not possible. With out him I don't think winning this season is a realistic option.

I'm interested in starting a rebuilding process immediately. I'm looking to get younger keepers and am interested in draft pick upgrades as well.

Tim Duncan, Paul Millsap, Rajon Rondo, Kevin Martin, Kyle Korver, Amir Johnson, Vince Carter, Jordan Crawford, Harrison Barnes and Jared Sullinger are all available.

I have very little interest in trading LaMarcus Aldridge or Greg Monroe.

If anyone has interest in any of the players I listed, feel free to send me an offer or email.
49PeteN.
      ID: 49125419
      Wed, Feb 06, 2013, 22:05
Trade with PR include's my 2nd for his 6th. PR to confirm.
51Pacers Rule
      Leader
      ID: 910311210
      Thu, Feb 07, 2013, 01:24
Yup
52skinneej
      ID: 11192115
      Wed, Feb 13, 2013, 23:10
Anybody needing help in 3s JR Smith is available. My biggest need is a center, but willing to consider any good offer for an upgrade or picks.
53Tosh
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Tue, Feb 26, 2013, 15:15
Trade w/ Meatwads -

Meatwads get - Jarrett Jack + Round 6
Tosh gets - A random Meatball + Round 3
54beastiemiked
      ID: 38255111
      Tue, Feb 26, 2013, 17:43
Nice trade. Pretty sure we are all screwed though unless GO gets bit with some injuries.
55Meatwads
      ID: 541282618
      Tue, Feb 26, 2013, 19:28
Confirming trade from post 53.

I agree, it looks like GO is in good shape. I probably shouldn't have waited so long to make a deal. Oh well, at least it's almost baseball season.
56GO
      ID: 300542419
      Sat, Mar 02, 2013, 18:03
Tosh - you just checking to see if anyone is paying attention?
57RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 204401122
      Sat, Mar 02, 2013, 20:26
Frankly, I love all his pickups.

Anyone need Carl Landry for down the stretch, especially since Andrew Bogut is still such a princess?
58Tosh
      ID: 057721710
      Sun, Mar 03, 2013, 02:27
Yeah. I realized that I had never owned Shaquille O'Neal. It was time. O'Neal, Iverson, and TMac all bring more to the table than the guy that was replaced a week ago.

'Chukwudiebere Maduabum' was signed because he looks like a funny collection of random letters.
59 beastiemiked
      ID: 38255111
      Fri, Mar 08, 2013, 22:59
Looking to trade Marcin Gortat for another big man. Doesn't necessarily have to be a keeper but needs to be a solid rebounder.
60RecycledSpinalFluid
      Dude
      ID: 204401122
      Fri, Mar 15, 2013, 01:43
Did KnicksFan and I successful make a trade neither of us agreed to?
61skinneej
      ID: 11192115
      Fri, Mar 15, 2013, 21:12
Still looking to deal J.r. Smith for anyone looking for help in 3s. He's averaging 20 pts and 3.1 3pm over his last 15 days. Plus throw in nearly 6 rebs, 4 asts and 2 stls per game over that same stretch which is good for top 25 production.

I'd also consider trading Luol Deng or David West with him in a package deal for teams needing depth down the stretch. I'll listen to any offer and throw counters your way so let's get to it!

Biggest need is a center eligible player that can be considered as potential keeper material for next season. picks are also welcome.
62Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Sat, Apr 13, 2013, 11:23
Down the stretch they come!! GO and Pete going down to the wire!

Good luck fellas.
63beastiemiked
      ID: 38255111
      Sat, Apr 13, 2013, 11:49
GG my team. Didn't have any chance at the top but with Kobe going down probably going to settle at 4th or 5th now. Sucks that it's going to pretty welly kill my chances for next year as well.
64GO
      ID: 300542419
      Sun, Apr 14, 2013, 11:19
Chandler and Lawson's injury definitely have me holding on for dear life... not sure I will be holding on. Should be interesting.
65PeteN.
      ID: 49125419
      Tue, Apr 16, 2013, 23:55
My goal was to make it interesting on the final day of the season so mission accomplished there. Kudos to skinneej for pin-wheeling through players to try and exhaust all of his games played.
66skinneej
      ID: 14911313
      Wed, Apr 17, 2013, 13:11
It's unusual for me to be short games going into the final weeks as I usually like to stay slightly ahead of the pace due to the player uncertainties the last few weeks. This year, I dealt with many injuries and had a hard time keeping pace. Varejao started off a beast, then went down early and I was left scrambling for decent center options. Both pgs Wall and Rubio started the season out coming off knee surgeries and missed a couple months, so I had little hope of contending. Making a late season run to likely finish 6th again is pretty amazing.

The final couple months I finally lucked into getting solid numbers from FA pick ups Brandan Wright and Jermaine O'neal at center. I tried all season to trade for another center, and everyone refused to budge even on mid-tier guys. Even offering up guys like JR Smith and David West, couldn't make anything happen. I was prepared to trade those guys and pack it in for next season when JR Smith went on an absolute tear and even collossal disappointments like Scola started putting up big numbers again. I gained 10 points in assists and nearly as many in steals with my guard tandem back, and somehow managed to stay at or near the top in both rebound categories most of the season. Now let's hope for a healthy offseason and see if I can build on this young team's chances at competing.
67PeteN.
      ID: 49125419
      Wed, Apr 17, 2013, 23:40
Congrats GO!
68Perm Dude
      ID: 201027169
      Thu, Apr 18, 2013, 01:40
Nice job, GO!

Way down near the bottom, I tried to max out games, too, but found two guys suddenly didn't play. Grrr! Anyway, a good rebuilding season--next year, back to the top-5.
69GO
      ID: 120252515
      Thu, Apr 18, 2013, 08:52
Wow, thanks... glad I held on. My guys shot great %'s last night to get me a little cushion back but it was definitely very uncomfortable for the last week.
Lawson finally coming back and giving me a few great games helped as did Lebron sitting for Pete for many games down the stretch.

I don't think anyone had cracked the 140 barrier for a while til Pete did it there at the end for a bit... is there a way to check that?

I have now won 2 of the 3 G20/4 leagues... only leaves baseball to complete the trilogy. Has anyone else won all 3?
70Pistol Pete
      ID: 50910919
      Thu, Apr 18, 2013, 15:51
Nice work GO! Congrats!
71RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 1895240
      Sat, Apr 20, 2013, 14:52
Congrats to GO!

Now, undo the post-season HumpDashian pickup before we have another Lou Williams event next year.

Too much work/night classes/kid's sports going on. Forgot to make a couple of player pickups the last day.

Hopefully some of these "overall #2 picks" will show their worth...soon.
72Pacers Rule
      Leader
      ID: 910311210
      Sun, Apr 21, 2013, 00:13
Congrats GO. Pick a nice trophy :-)
73beastiemiked
      ID: 38255111
      Sun, Apr 21, 2013, 01:37
Congrats GO!

74Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Sun, Apr 21, 2013, 11:14
Congrats GO! About time you nailed down one of the G20/24 titles! Awesome job.
75Great One
      ID: 450312813
      Sun, Apr 21, 2013, 12:59
I got NFL already too buddy... now I'm coming for MLB and the Triple Crown.
76Frick
      ID: 432501512
      Fri, Apr 26, 2013, 09:33
I have had a great time in the league, but over time I've gotten less and less interest in the NBA and I don't think I've seen more than highlights of a game this year. That doesn't equal me being interested or competitive in a fantasy league, especially one as deep and hard as this one. I'm not planning on playing next year, but in fairness to the next manager, I have a trade offer. Would anyone or maybe 3 people want to weigh in on the offer and tell me if they think it would be a fair trade?
77beastiemiked
      ID: 38255111
      Fri, Apr 26, 2013, 23:26
Frick, it was a pleasure having you in this league.

IMO, if you aren't playing next year then you shouldn't be making trades.

That said, if you are 100% not playing next year I'm sure there are more than a few managers that would love your team. I'm sure the commishes would have no problem appointing a new manager asap and that new manager could evaluate the trade.
78GO
      ID: 300542419
      Sat, Apr 27, 2013, 09:38
WG has expressed interest. I'm not sure if any others were on a waiting list, but he's done great with our other leagues.
79Pacers Rule
      Leader
      ID: 910311210
      Tue, Apr 30, 2013, 00:21
Are we allowed to trade right now? I thought we were in a moratorium. In any event, Aaron I think you at least need to let me buy you a beer over at B-dubs.
80GO
      ID: 120252515
      Tue, Apr 30, 2013, 09:47
No reason you can't make a trade in the offseason and just have it applied once the pre-draft process starts.
81Pacers Rule
      Leader
      ID: 910311210
      Sun, May 12, 2013, 22:35
Ok. That makes sense to me. just no adds after the season.
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