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0 Subject: Gurupie 20 -- 2013/2014 Preseason Discussion

Posted by: Species
- [56835258] Wed, Sep 25, 2013, 09:35

Greetings! It's time to start preparations for another G20 Hoops season!! Time to put Great One back in his place - which is somewhere other than first!!

First order of business: Please confirm (or deny) that you will be back. I believe Frick has already stated his intention to move on and not play this year (via last year's thread). He can still change his mind, but unless we hear differently, we will need to find a replacement.

Here are last year's trades:

G20 12-13 Traded Draft Picks
11/26: dpr gets bmd's 1st. bmd gets dpr's 6th (Felton)
12/30: Species gets Pete's 3rd. Pete gets Species' 5th (Okafor)
01/08: CC gets GO's 1st. GO gets CC's 5th (Kirilenko)
02/02: Species gets Guru's 2nd. Guru gets Pete's 3rd (see 12/30) (Delfino/Thompson)
02/07: PacersRule gets Pete's 2nd. Pete gets PR's 6th (Robinson)
02/26: Tosh gets Meadwads 3rd. Meadwads get Tosh 6th (Jack)

Last year keepers were due October 17th and the draft started October 19th. The regular season starts around the 29th. I will look at dates more closely soon.

This is also the time to propose any rule changes.

Here are last year's standings:

Standings

1. GO Second City Saints 142
2. Team Nashty 138
3. Mighty Meatwads 137
4. beastie miked 134
5. Roto Guru 132
6. Skinnee J's 119
7. SAN FORDORS 112
8. Blurred Crusaders 104
9. RSF's House of Smoke n M... 102.5
10. youngroman's Luschen 100
11. Vampire Weekend 90
12. Hard To Be A KnicksFan 86
13. IND Frick's DTD 79
13. Naptown 'Nados 79
15. Layin' Bricks 72
16. Team Perm Dudes 65
16. Bismack Biyombo Fan Club 65
18. 3 Blind Mice 58
19. Team Slamdunkers123 45.5
20. coldwater coyotes 30
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157Pacers Rule
      Leader
      ID: 910311210
      Sat, Oct 19, 2013, 14:28
I agree it's kind of weird when a player you had queued up a couple picks earlier is still there two rounds later....makes you questions yourself. In your case they didn't fall that far since your picks were all so close together.

Personally I looked at all three of those guys...esp. the last two, but in the end just couldn't get past Kirilenko's back issues and not sure what it was with Bargnani but it just didn't feel right. I think sharing the ball with Carmelo had something to do with it.
158TotalBucksHomer
      ID: 489421916
      Sat, Oct 19, 2013, 17:43
I had AK47 loaded in the queue to go @ 2.12, but like PR, I just couldn't get past the back issue. Probably going to bite me in the ass, but "that's why we play the games."

That said, I hate my Kaman pick. Total 'recycled' pick, but figure I need 1 C eligible guy, right?
159skinneej
      Leader
      ID: 040625911
      Sat, Oct 19, 2013, 21:02
I also looked hard at Kirilenklo at 2.15 right before your pick, but just too much risk there for me. Went with more upside on a young guard. Would have taken Korver had he made it to that spot though.
160Pacers Rule
      Leader
      ID: 910311210
      Sat, Oct 19, 2013, 21:07
GO...I was all set to roll the dice on Wallace. Why not take a third Boston forward I figured. I guess I'll roll the dice on Ginobili's injuries and minutes limits instead.
161GO
      ID: 109381022
      Sat, Oct 19, 2013, 22:25
I think I used to have him as a keeper in this league... crazy how quick some guys fall off.
162Species
      ID: 271152305
      Sun, Oct 20, 2013, 12:19
Considering Kirilenkp was my fourth draftee, I felt the upside was worth the risk. If he was only my 2nd draftee, its likely I would have felt forced to go with a safer option.
163skinneej
      ID: 14911313
      Sun, Oct 20, 2013, 13:48
PD, did we confirm our deal? You will be on the clock at pick 3.15. Email me your pick or just post it here and I will make it for you.
164Recycledspinalfluid
      ID: 468192718
      Sun, Oct 20, 2013, 16:42
I'm still feeling queasy
about picking B-Easy.


Really...wtf was that? Funny thing is I had DoMo as my original choice, who then went next.
165skinneej
      ID: 11192115
      Sun, Oct 20, 2013, 16:49
If I don't hear back from Perm Dude before this pick is up, I will go ahead and make my pick and we will rehash the traded picks later.
166Perm Dude
      ID: 339541411
      Sun, Oct 20, 2013, 17:20
Been a busy day--finally back at the computer.

skinneej, will email you a pick in a moment.
167Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Oct 20, 2013, 17:41
I can wait until the pick is entered. What's the trade?
168skinneej
      ID: 11192115
      Sun, Oct 20, 2013, 17:55
Ok, got your email PD and made Lou Williams pick. Pick 3.15 for 4.09 is an addendum to a trade we agreed on and will execute through ESPN site.

Trade is:
Perm Dude gets: David West, J.r Smith, 3.15
Skinneej gets: Ersan Ilyasova, JJ Hickson, 4.09
169Tosh
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Sun, Oct 20, 2013, 18:27
The trade has been processed at Draftime and ESPN.
170Perm Dude
      ID: 339541411
      Sun, Oct 20, 2013, 18:59
Thanks. Confirmed!
171Perm Dude
      ID: 339541411
      Sun, Oct 20, 2013, 19:49
Tosh, can you swap 3.15 (who is now Lou Williams) and 4.09? Or do you have to wait until 4.09 is selected?
172Tosh
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Sun, Oct 20, 2013, 19:56
They are already swapped. SJ shows as owning 4.09.
173Perm Dude
      ID: 339541411
      Sun, Oct 20, 2013, 20:32
thanks
174Pacers Rule
      Leader
      ID: 910311210
      Sun, Oct 20, 2013, 23:43
draft clock may need to be stopped manually? Should be on pause at the start of my pick until the a.m. but draftime shows it running.
175Tosh
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Mon, Oct 21, 2013, 00:02
You are correct. The clock did not stop, although the settings were correct. I re-set it, and that did not stop the clock either.

So I re-set it to a Midnight pause. That did not work either. So for now, I just turned off the clock. Guru can turn it back on in the morning.
176Tosh
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Mon, Oct 21, 2013, 01:54
The draft finally paused, but one hour later than advertised. The same thing happened in my RIHC draft. One hour delay.

Clock has been re-set to 4 hours. Now paused.
177Species
      ID: 271152305
      Mon, Oct 21, 2013, 08:10
.....it's as if Draftime forgot to "spring forward" --- their clock is an hour slow.
178Perm Dude
      ID: 339541411
      Mon, Oct 21, 2013, 09:45
In AA, it looks like it autopicked a guy overnight for me two hours after my time started for the pick. Must be an odd internal clock thing--maybe with the reboot?
179youngroman
      ID: 3913664
      Mon, Oct 21, 2013, 09:51
I don't know what happened but my pick was skipped after just 1 hour. I did not intend to get Koufos so no harm was done. looks like RSF has a DeLorean that allows him to travel into the future to pick Koufos at 8:34pm.
180Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Mon, Oct 21, 2013, 10:01
We had a similar issue in the RIHC
181RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 15921219
      Mon, Oct 21, 2013, 10:21
Yeah, strange. That was an autopick. I saw it on my iPhone, but when I go to look at the website (via Chrome and IE), I see neither of the last two picks.
182Perm Dude
      ID: 339541411
      Mon, Oct 21, 2013, 10:24
I'm sure KKB is on this, but we just had a rollback in AA, where two picks were wiped. So we'll need to be more alert than usual today as his software seems a little glitchy with the time.
183Tosh
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Mon, Oct 21, 2013, 15:22
Nene Hilario has been added to the Draftime database. You still can't draft him, since he is mine, and keepers cannot be edited once the draft has started.

184Tosh
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Mon, Oct 21, 2013, 15:33
Still 40 picks to go, and the #2 projected assist man available, according to ESPN, is Jason Kidd.

And Shaq & Iverson are in the top-25 in ownership%.
185KnicksFan
      ID: 22840258
      Mon, Oct 21, 2013, 15:55
Robert Pack is on my short list for assists.
186Pacers Rule
      Leader
      ID: 910311210
      Mon, Oct 21, 2013, 16:29
If anyone wants to trade up to my next pick from a later one...I'll do it for a little better swap in next year's draft.
187Species
      ID: 271152305
      Mon, Oct 21, 2013, 17:00
I'm excited for this year.....not that my team is the shizzle or anything, but I like it more than I have in a while. I went the total veteran direction in the draft and having 4 picks thru pick 2.16 gave me the chance to load up a bit. If only Westbrook was healthy....

Still going to go all out for a top 5 finish. Need Harris and Valanciunas to play like they did late in the year and Cousins to be the beast I know he is.
188Pacers Rule
      Leader
      ID: 910311210
      Mon, Oct 21, 2013, 17:49
Seems like Dave R had a crazy nice draft position as well.
189Tosh
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Tue, Oct 22, 2013, 02:19
My draft is completed, and I'm not super interested in closely following along while players like Dwight Buycks are picked. So you guys need to stop relying on me to add the players to your team as an admin. Add your players please.

In related news ... Pistol Pete drafted Dwight Buycks, who is not in the ESPN database.
190Perm Dude
      ID: 339541411
      Tue, Oct 22, 2013, 10:40
This is the part of the draft where I think "Man, how far has that guy fallen." Lots for former stars coming up in these rounds.
191Pistol Pete
      ID: 50910919
      Tue, Oct 22, 2013, 14:45
re: 189 Sorry for the "not super interesting" pick but Buycks was on the ESPN database and I was able to add him last night.
192beastiemiked
      ID: 3910223
      Tue, Oct 22, 2013, 22:35
I thought we couldn't add our players, only commishes. My bad.
193Pistol Pete
      ID: 50910919
      Wed, Oct 23, 2013, 03:13
Why don't you get with it bmd?! Jeez! : )
194GO
      ID: 59918108
      Wed, Oct 23, 2013, 09:09
Buycks was high on my que for my last pick... boo!
195Tosh
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Wed, Oct 23, 2013, 19:15
The draft is complete. Although Pete timed out, and got skipped for 06.19.

Tonight, I will re-set the draft, then re-enter all the players. Once completed, all players will be on waivers.


196PeteN.
      ID: 50748615
      Wed, Oct 23, 2013, 20:53
Well, crap. Didn't expect Udrih to get picked. Should've known a Knicks fan would take a flyer on him.
197PeteN.
      ID: 50748615
      Wed, Oct 23, 2013, 21:05
I meant to add D.J. Augustin instead of Earl Watson for my 6.19 pick. Can a commish please update for me.
199Tosh
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Wed, Oct 23, 2013, 22:07
I seem to recall previous cases of the draft ending while a manager has an open slot. And in those cases, a final pick was not allowed, and the manager had to pick his final player via waivers.

Or maybe I'm mis-remembering. I'm deferring to other Commish's that have better recall.
200Species
      ID: 271152305
      Wed, Oct 23, 2013, 23:35
Agree with 199. Pete needs to just pick somebody up.

Gotta run and put a waiver claim in on Agustin :P
201Species
      ID: 271152305
      Thu, Oct 24, 2013, 00:01
195: And a HUGEMONGOUS thank you to Tosh for volunteering to re-do the draft. Thankfully espn does have a good app for that.

Thanks to Tosh and Guru for any and all efforts in picking up players from those bums (including myself) that didn't pick up their players. THANK YOU....THANK YOU!
202Tosh
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Thu, Oct 24, 2013, 01:37
Everything has been re-entered. Please check for accuracy, and re-set those rosters. Game on.
203KnicksFan
      ID: 22840258
      Thu, Oct 24, 2013, 09:09
196: It took until the 4th to last pick of the draft, but I finally took someone that someone else wanted!
204skinneej
      ID: 14911313
      Thu, Oct 24, 2013, 12:23
I should have Ilyasova and Perm Dude should have David West.
205Perm Dude
      ID: 339541411
      Thu, Oct 24, 2013, 12:55
Other than #204, my team looks accurate.
206Tosh
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Thu, Oct 24, 2013, 13:55
Fixed.
207Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Oct 24, 2013, 17:36
From the G20 Hoops Treasurer:

Prize pool dues for 2013-14 will again be $15. Your payment is due by the end of October. If you do not pay by then, I reserve the right to hound you privately and ridicule you publicly!

Two members have permanently opted out of the prize pool: Perm Dude and Pistol Pete. There is no trophy pool assessment this year, as the trophy fund is still adequate for this year.

The other 18 returning managers are in the pool, and expected to contribute each year.

The following 6 members already have sufficient funds on account - either from last year, or from G20 baseball - to pay the full amount, and therefore owe nothing this year:

Beastiemiked
Meatwads
Great One
Skinneej
KnicksFan
Species

Toral – owes only $12, as he has $3 on acct from baseball

Everyone else owes the full $15.

You may send your payment in one of two ways:


1. Mail a check for $15. Address will be provided on request.

The check should be payable to Dave Hall.

2. Paypal

Send to davehall@rotoguru2.com. Designate your payment as Personal-Payment owed. If you include a note, just say "G20 payment".

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