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0 Subject: Gurupie 20 - 2014 / 2015 Preseason Discussion

Posted by: Species
- [2471649] Tue, Sep 16, 2014, 19:37

Okay it's early, but with a quick moment and training camps getting ready to open soon, why not start the preseason?

First order of business: Roll call! Are you coming back for the season??

I have already had one manager state a high unlikelihood they will return........so we are likely to need at least one manager, and possibly more. Feel free to offer suggestions for replacement managers.

I will get some rosters up, post last year's trades and standings, and send out a league email via ESPN.

Looking forward to a good season -- particularly since my team rocks.
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283Jaydog
      ID: 45482914
      Fri, May 29, 2015, 15:08
No for both... like some of the proposed options, but no to both rules.
284Toral
      ID: 31482917
      Fri, May 29, 2015, 18:08
266 I change my vote to:

1) No

2) No

Shifting from supporting the commissioner to joining the herd.
285Meatwads
      ID: 42412305
      Sat, May 30, 2015, 06:13
I agree everything in the Activity section except for "You are also expected to keep healthy and competitive players who are playing in your active lineup." I disagree with that for the same reason as bmd stated in post #267.

I think the 70 games played limit is also too low, for the reasons Bean stated in post #281.

1. No
2. No
286Perm Dude
      ID: 431013412
      Sat, May 30, 2015, 14:19
Changing my votes to "no" for the many reasons stated above. Good discussion.
287RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 22712514
      Sun, May 31, 2015, 16:21
1. no
2. no

I like tanking. No other way to get talent in this league than to suck, or swindle someone in a trade. Tanking doesn't guarantee shit, as you will notice that neither DeMarcus Cousins, nor Anthony Davis are on my team, despite near Hinkian efforts in both of those seasons. Fn' lottery.
288Bean
      ID: 14147911
      Sun, May 31, 2015, 17:30
So, when you confessed to tanking, what was the penalty you received? Or is the crime somehow excusable after confession? Just have to say three "World Be Frees" and all is forgiven? I like that rule.
289GO
      ID: 444591621
      Sun, May 31, 2015, 22:17
We should all trade ownership of 1st Round picks before each season. Like the guys who finished 17th and 18th swap their picks the next season. They should be comparable the following year and it eliminates tanking and gives you someone to cheer against.
Anyone want to swap with me for next year?
290RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 5352110
      Mon, Jun 01, 2015, 01:21
hinkian...trade off all vets, gamble on youth, grab a euro-stash guy, get better draft picks. Use those picks wisely (or not, in my case). Bottom out and work your way back up. It's sucked but the team is coming back around. World B. Free.
291Bean
      ID: 14147911
      Mon, Jun 01, 2015, 11:11
Got Tickets for Game 4 and Game 6 of NBA finals....Go Cavs
292beastiemiked
      ID: 5911312710
      Mon, Jun 01, 2015, 22:36
GO, just have a reverse order. The last place team can pick who's pick they'll get next year and so forth. I bet Species would get stuck with Pete's pick :)
293GO
      ID: 444591621
      Mon, Jun 01, 2015, 22:41
Now THAT is brilliant! You'd have the strategy of looking at the other teams and pick the one you think is in for a rough season.
294GO
      ID: 444591621
      Mon, Jun 01, 2015, 22:43
and then there would be no motivation to tank... and extra motivation to beat the guy who's pick you own.
295Bean
      ID: 14147911
      Tue, Jun 02, 2015, 11:06
Absolutely brilliant. Imagine the embarrassment someone would suffer from being the owner chosen as most likely to Suck Seed. Now there is incentive.
296Bean
      ID: 14147911
      Tue, Jun 02, 2015, 11:15
We could just opt for virtual tattoos...eg. allow the 16th place team to name the 20th place team for the following year etc. Pick an embarrassment, they're all good.
297beastiemiked
      ID: 481162721
      Wed, Jun 03, 2015, 20:40
I'd love to claim that as one of my original idea's but I heard it on 538. Some other fun suggestions there too.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/podcast-deflategate-and-we-pick-an-nba-draft-fix-winner/
298RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 5352110
      Thu, Jun 04, 2015, 01:17
Anyone laying odds on Deladouchebag rolling up on Steph Curry's (formerly) brittle ankles?
299Bean
      ID: 14147911
      Thu, Jun 04, 2015, 09:45
Know what we call a Dellavedova 3 PT make here in Cleveland? A Deli Trey....great at watch parties. DEL-E, DEL-E, DEL-E

I got 3.5:1 for game one early in the betting, other bettors must be stupid. Standard Home Court advantage is usually 1.5:1 for equal teams. I know the players on Golden State aren't that cocky.

Go Cavs
300Bean
      ID: 14147911
      Thu, Jun 04, 2015, 12:30
<297> The bear is pretty good. Did you see Adam Silver's response to the "futures" proposal?
301RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 22712514
      Fri, Jun 05, 2015, 00:30
Deli Trey! That is awesome.
302Bean
      ID: 14147911
      Fri, Jun 05, 2015, 09:05
ouch
303Bean
      ID: 14147911
      Wed, Jun 10, 2015, 11:06
Is the proposal dead now?

Go Cavs
304Species
      ID: 6031912
      Mon, Jun 15, 2015, 09:53
One of these days I will take some time and count it up. Not today. Off to work........
305Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Jun 15, 2015, 11:16
My quick count is that proposal 1 is losing 5-9, and proposal 2 is losing 3-11.

There does seem to be some support for a more meaningful limit in proposal 1, and/or a penalty involving draft pick priority. But it may be difficult to get enough focus until the fall.
306RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 5352110
      Fri, Jun 26, 2015, 13:11
Pretty excited to see Plumlee in the PDX. Don't really want to see Lopez go, but if it frees up time for Plum, then I can DSL with that.
307GO
      ID: 432341310
      Tue, Jun 30, 2015, 11:34
Can someone post any trades still on the books for next year? Can't see at work.
308Perm Dude
      ID: 431013412
      Tue, Jun 30, 2015, 20:55
I don't see any trades except on the individual team pages, and those don't seem to include any picks traded.
309GO
      ID: 444591621
      Tue, Jun 30, 2015, 23:04
Homepage...

The following managers have had their 2015 draft picks altered via trade:
11-2-13 Meatwads receives GO's 1st for his 4th (Gay)
1-16-14 Great One receives Species' 3rd for his 6th (Dunleavy)
1-23-14 bmd receives WG's 3rd for his 6th (Gortat)
2-4-14 RSF receives Dave R's 2nd for his 3rd (Augustin)
2-7-14 RSF receives Perm Dude's 1st for his 2nd (Turner/Collison)
2-22-14 RSF receives Pete N's 2015.5th for RSF's 2015.6th (B.Roberts)
11-26-14 Toral receives Species' 4th for his 6th (D. Green)
12-17-14 Tosh receives Pete's 3rd for his 6th (Asik/W. Matthews)
12-28-14 PermDude receives Meatwads' 3rd for his 6th (Young/Green / Speights/Nene)
1-9-15 Greatone receives RSF's 1st for his 3rd (Chandler/Anderson)
1-16-15 WG receives Species' 2nd for his 6th (Gortat)
2-27-15 bmd receives Species' 1st for his 2nd (Crawford)
3-10-15 bmd receives Pete's 2nd for his 5th (J. Smoove)
310 PeteN.
      ID: 8550318
      Wed, Jul 01, 2015, 16:00
LeBron James is on the block. If you are interested, let me know.
311PeteN.
      ID: 8550318
      Thu, Jul 02, 2015, 21:40
Trade Announcement

Bean Trades:

Chris Paul
DeAndre Jordan
Bean's 2015 2nd round pick

Pete Trades:

LeBron James
Jason Terry
Bmd's 2015 5th round pick

Bean to confirm..
312PeteN.
      ID: 8550318
      Thu, Jul 02, 2015, 21:42
Trade Announcement

PD Trades:

PD's 2015 2nd round pick

Pete Trades:

Zach Randolph
Pete's 2015 4th round pick

PD to confirm..
313Bean
      ID: 14147911
      Thu, Jul 02, 2015, 21:50
<311> Confirmed
314Perm Dude
      ID: 431013412
      Thu, Jul 02, 2015, 22:55
confirmed
315Species
      ID: 54740122
      Thu, Jul 09, 2015, 12:19
WHOAAAAAAAA!

Guess I shpuld have read the damned board. Wowza.
316RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 22712514
      Fri, Jul 10, 2015, 01:52
OKC...you've got to match that Kanter offer. Show Durant that OKC isn't a bunch of cheapasses.
318RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 5352110
      Sat, Jul 11, 2015, 00:42
DWill...how the mighty have fallen. Here's to the miracle workers in the Dallas medical staff. Ratchet those ankles up.
319Species
      ID: 456182615
      Tue, Jul 28, 2015, 20:36
You may notice that I renewed the league in ESPN. Not starting any preseason business yet......just was in there so I clicked the button.

We do have some improvements / clarifications / tweaks to consider in our rules. Will probably try to get that started next month sometime.
320beastiemiked
      ID: 12651297
      Wed, Jul 29, 2015, 08:51
I don't believe my trade in post 227 was accounted for.
321Species
      ID: 456182615
      Wed, Jul 29, 2015, 10:47
320: I have some updating to do. Will get around to that and refresh the trade list here and on the league page.
322RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 22712514
      Thu, Jul 30, 2015, 00:39
These are not the trades you are looking for...
323Species
      ID: 456182615
      Thu, Jul 30, 2015, 18:43
Constitution and updated trades posted on the league homepage:

The following managers have had their 2015 draft picks altered via trade:
11-2-13 Meatwads receives GO's 1st for his 4th (Gay)
1-16-14 Great One receives Species' 3rd for his 6th (Dunleavy)
1-23-14 bmd receives WG's 3rd for his 6th (Gortat)
2-4-14 RSF receives Dave R's 2nd for his 3rd (Augustin)
2-7-14 RSF receives Perm Dude's 1st for his 2nd (Turner/Collison)
2-22-14 RSF receives Pete N's 2015.5th for RSF's 2015.6th (B.Roberts)
11-26-14 Toral receives Species' 4th for his 6th (D. Green)
12-17-14 Tosh receives Pete's 3rd for his 6th (Asik/W. Matthews)
12-28-14 PermDude receives Meatwads' 3rd for his 6th (Young/Green / Speights/Nene)
1-9-15 Greatone receives RSF's 1st for his 3rd (Chandler/Anderson)
1-16-15 WG receives Species' 2nd for his 6th (Gortat)
2-27-15 bmd receives Species' 1st for his 2nd (Crawford)
3-04-15 bmd receives Great One's 3rd (via RSF) for his 4th (M. Williams)
3-10-15 bmd receives Pete's 2nd for his 5th (J. Smoove)
7-02-15 Pete receives Bean's 2nd for bmd's 5th (LeBron / Paul / Jordan)
7-02-15 Pete receives PD's 2nd for his 4th (ZBo)
324Species
      ID: 456182615
      Fri, Jul 31, 2015, 13:35
We have one confirmed opening for this season. I am extending Toral's resignation from Baseball to Hoops. The "Team Ref" team that he took over from Ref is available.
325 twolves
      ID: 57491413
      Fri, Aug 14, 2015, 14:50
I would be intersted if there is an opening but would like to see league setup,rules,scoring, draft, etc. before decidng--ie need to look at time committment that might be needed.

326Species
      ID: 54740122
      Fri, Aug 14, 2015, 15:34
twolves -- rules are in post 27
327twolves
      ID: 37391813
      Tue, Aug 18, 2015, 14:45
Offensive rebounds? not turnovers? The numbers/points look pretty much like RIBC leagues. Anyplace to see previous draft results? I think I would be interested but remember the timberwolves are known for tanking with generally bad results especially with draft picks until very recently.
Who is on the team that might up for grabs?
328RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 147431821
      Tue, Aug 18, 2015, 22:43
The team formerly known as Toral
Taj Gibson, Chi PF
Trevor Booker, Uta PF
Isaiah Thomas, Bos PG, SG
Damian Lillard, Por PG, SG
Brook Lopez, Bkn C
Anthony Bennett, Min PF
Julius Randle*, LAL PF
Gerald Green, Pho SF, SG
Brandon Bass, Bos PF
Drew Gooden, Wsh PF
Kris Humphries, Wsh PF, C
Mitch McGary, OKC PF, C

A couple of nice pieces and a few other kinds of pieces. Bt hey!!! You'd build around twolves future in Bennett!
329twolves
      ID: 57491413
      Sat, Aug 22, 2015, 08:36
A couple of nice pieces worth keeping but not sure of much else. For leagus (ESPN?) is it 2 guards PG/SG, 2 forwards PF/SF, one center, one additional guard, one extra forward, and 3 others so 10 could play at a time? With only 12 players seems hard to get all the games in if injuries and would require a lot of pickups and drops.
What is the general thought/philosophy on who to keep in the league--highest ranked players for production or potential for the upcoming season to determine how to build team.

If I build the team around Anthony Bennett--I assume as a keeper which he must have been last year--I might be suspect of tanking, low BB IQ, or crazy brilliant(if one thinks he will play like a #1 pick) before the season started. Anyplace to view prior drafts and has draft order been determined for this year?

If Bennett had a breakout season and still on timberwolves(thoughts here are he may get traded before season starts), I would be ecstatic as the timberwolves might actually be good this year.
330Species
      ID: 456182615
      Sat, Aug 22, 2015, 11:31
twolves -- just 8 starters: G G F F C UT UT UT with 4 bench.
331twolves
      ID: 57491413
      Sat, Aug 22, 2015, 16:01
Makes sense with only 8 players and this team had only 3 eligible guards and one SF--so no position designation with guards and forwards either. Thanks.
332beastiemiked
      ID: 481162721
      Sat, Aug 22, 2015, 17:06
Hoops is by far the easiest sport to rebuild in. I don't think anybody has ever had a rebuild project last longer than 1 year. Our short bench forces contending teams to utilize all their slots and not have them tied up in the future with guys that might not be playing much now.
333twolves
      Dude
      ID: 811161317
      Wed, Sep 09, 2015, 11:44
I am interested in filling manager position--especially now that the fantasy football draft is done can at least look forward to BB. With a large group it should be hopefully fun and interesting.
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