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Subject: Gurupie 20 - 2015 / 2016 Regular Season Discussion
Posted by: Species
- [11730119] Tue, Oct 27, 2015, 14:25
It's opening night!!
Thank you to all of the owners for a good draft. Thanks again Tosh for coming in and doing some of the dirty work to get the league totally up-and-running with re-entering the draft, establishing waivers, etc.
I put up a poll to see who the league thinks will win. Pete and Dave R look like favorites early on --- will someone emerge and challenge these titans?
Good luck to all. |
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| 22 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 51213418
Fri, Nov 13, 2015, 19:16
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The two most dominant players in the league are on one roster...Drummond and Curry...wtf is that!
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| 23 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 51213418
Fri, Nov 13, 2015, 23:54
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Didn't realize you get NBATV games. Getting a kick out of hearing the home town homers for the Kings in this Nets/Kings game.
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| 24 | PeteN.
ID: 8550318
Sat, Nov 14, 2015, 08:42
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RSF, both drafted and fun to watch!
I'm looking to pair one of Lamb, Barton or Stuckey with my 1st round pick for assists. If interested, let me know.
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| 25 | beastiemiked
ID: 481162721
Sat, Nov 14, 2015, 20:32
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Collison/Stuckey deal includes:
Pete gets bmd's 2016 5th round pick
Bmd gets Pete's 2016 1st round pick
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| 26 | beastiemiked
ID: 481162721
Sat, Nov 14, 2015, 20:36
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Kobe Bryant is available. His FG% SUCKS right now but it's bound to improve. He's shooting 8 3 pointers a game for some dumb reason.
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| 27 | Species
ID: 11730119
Sat, Nov 14, 2015, 21:13
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26: I'll give you my 2nd for your 1st for Kobe.
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| 28 | PeteN.
ID: 8550318
Sat, Nov 14, 2015, 21:25
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25: confirmed
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| 29 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 22712514
Sat, Nov 14, 2015, 22:38
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LOL...27 is awesome1
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| 30 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 51213418
Sun, Nov 15, 2015, 23:55
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How does Steven Adams play 30 minutes and have zero shot attempts? Come on man...get some put backs or something.
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| 31 | beastiemiked
ID: 469172814
Mon, Nov 16, 2015, 10:28
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Species, no thank you.
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| 32 | Perm Dude
ID: 431013412
Fri, Nov 27, 2015, 11:31
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For the trade just accepted, the full offer is:
PD gets:
Nikola Pekovic, C, MN
RSF's 4th round 2016 draft pick
RSF gets:
Clint Capela, C, Hous
PD's 6th round 2016 draft pick
RSF to confirm
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| 33 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 5352110
Fri, Nov 27, 2015, 14:11
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Yep, what the Dude said.
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| 34 | Species
ID: 11730119
Fri, Nov 27, 2015, 17:07
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Noted.
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| 35 | Species
ID: 11730119
Tue, Dec 01, 2015, 11:29
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Pete's team missed THIRTY EIGHT FREE THROWS last night.......and he still didn't lose a point?!?!? WTH?!?!?
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| 36 | PeteN.
ID: 8550318
Wed, Dec 02, 2015, 10:40
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Lol, that has to be a record!
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| 37 | twolves
Dude
ID: 811161317
Thu, Dec 03, 2015, 11:19
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Hard to believe you can have Drummond and Jordan and not have the worst FT% in the league
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| 38 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 1311531422
Mon, Dec 14, 2015, 23:53
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Giannis with the JKidd version of a triple double. Nice.
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| 39 | WG
ID: 552431321
Fri, Jan 29, 2016, 11:36
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Looking for some REB, preferably of the OREB variety... Anyone got any to trade?
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| 40 | GO
ID: 4011412823
Fri, Jan 29, 2016, 21:15
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I'm not going to be able to keep Ryan Andersen... he'd help somebody big time in 3's, scoring and rebounds at the same time.
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| 41 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 45247123
Wed, Mar 02, 2016, 00:47
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I must have imagined post 38, as Giannis now does not have a triple double on that date. Two verified ones since though, so I'll take that.
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| 42 | Meatwads
ID: 181121414
Mon, Mar 07, 2016, 16:18
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Any of these players are available for a draft pick upgrade next season...
Derrick Rose, G, CHI
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, G/F, DET
Jeremi Grant, F, PHI
Terrence Ross, G/F, TOR
Ed Davis, F/C, POR
Trey Burke, G, UTA
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| 43 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 45247123
Sat, Mar 12, 2016, 00:46
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Its fun to see Lance Stephenson not sucking.
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| 44 | PeteN.
ID: 8550318
Mon, Mar 14, 2016, 19:44
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Trade Announcement
Pete receives:
Derrick Rose
Meatwad's 2016 6th round pick
Meatwads receives:
Jeremy Lamb
Pete's 2016 2nd round pick
Meatwads to confirm on pick exchange
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| 45 | Meatwads
ID: 181121414
Tue, Mar 15, 2016, 00:29
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#44 - Trade confirmed
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| 46 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 45247123
Tue, Mar 15, 2016, 01:05
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Man, I like that trade. Enough risk to be worth it. Pete adds another (former) MVP.
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| 47 | Meatwads
ID: 181121414
Tue, Mar 15, 2016, 20:18
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I took the gamble on Rose a couple years ago when he was injured and I was rebuilding. I actually ended up losing Kemba Walker in the deal, so Sanfordors got me again!! For reference, he also stole Paul George from me after his rookie year for a 4th round pick. (Well played) I decided keeping Kevin Martin instead of George was logical as a contender. It's the gift that keeps on giving.
Anyway, the emergence of Reggie Jackson and D'Angelo Russell made me feel like I could afford to move on from Rose, although he's been playing better. Overall I think it's a good trade for both teams. Especially if Rose chips in down the stretch and can be kept or traded again in the offseason.
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| 48 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 5352110
Thu, Mar 24, 2016, 01:24
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Russdiculous blowing up the single game D-league scoring record. Way to represent the name!
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| 49 | Species
ID: 54740122
Tue, Apr 12, 2016, 10:37
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Uhhhhhh......there is still a fight for the top!! Dammmmmnnnnnnnn
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| 50 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Thu, Apr 14, 2016, 12:37
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Congrats Pete!! You had to be sweating it there when WG pulled to 155-154.....but with Steph Curry you couldn't be beat. Great job -- an amazing win after so many 2nds in a row!!
I squeaked out 3rd place after passing WG in points scored. Goes to show how every category can possibly be important to deciding the title.
Congrats to all the teams that finished in the money.
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| 51 | Bean
ID: 41052279
Thu, Apr 14, 2016, 13:03
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Grats Pet
Its too bad we don't have some kind of game for the playoffs given how long they last.
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| 52 | Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Thu, Apr 14, 2016, 15:37
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Congrats to Pete! A combination of studs and health. Made only 4 free agent pickups all season.
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| 53 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 16381418
Thu, Apr 14, 2016, 19:08
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CONGRATULATIONS PETE!
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| 54 | PeteN.
ID: 8550318
Thu, Apr 14, 2016, 20:52
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Thanks for the congrats! This is, without a doubt, my most rewarding win. After 3 straight 2nd place finishes, I'm really going to enjoy this one. I made a total of 4 moves (two of which were trades). That's a testament to how strong my keeps were going in and how lucky I was avoiding major injuries.
MVP: Steph Curry
Was there any doubt? Steph Curry runs away with this one. Curry carried my team and was simply a beast. For the year, he averaged 30.1 PPG, 6.7 AST, 5.4 REB, 2.1 STL, 5.1 3PTM all the while shooting a ridiculous 50.4% from the field. Although he looks like a kid, he was a man amongst boys this year.
Most valuable FA pickup of the year: Will Barton
Only two to choose from, but Barton delivered. I took him on a whim back in November and he turned out to be a nice source of points along with contributing in other cats. Here's to him seeing a more expanded role with Denver next year.
Key Trade: LeBron for Chris Paul and Deandre Jordan
I'm not going to lie, I was pretty disappointed and frustrated after finishing 2nd for the third straight season. I went into the offseason knowing I wanted to make a major trade. I also knew that my team was not going to compete in FT% having Drummond so I was dead-set on punting that category with the hopes of maximizing all other categories.
With that said, I made a post July 1st placing LeBron on the block. LeBron had been a great asset to my team, but I wanted to shake things up (mainly due to being frustrated with the 2nd place finishes). I almost immediately received interest from Meatwads and Bean. Meat offered a nice package of players, but I decided to go with Bean's offer of CP3 and DJ. DJ would scare most managers away due to his FT%, but I was already punting that category so it didn't bother me. I also thought he'd be a Dallas Maverick and simply dominate. As it turns out, he stayed with the Clippers but was still a force providing an excellent source of rebounds, blocks, and steals. Chris Paul was also money and anchored my team in assists and contributed steals, points, 3 pointers. Along with that, he managed to stay healthy (whew!). Had it not been for Curry having such a magical season, CP3 would get MVP consideration.
I mortgaged some of my future picks, but winning makes it all worth it (as bh likes to say, flags fly forever). Congrats to those who finished in the money. The competition in this league is fierce and I feel very fortunate to win my 3rd g20 hoops title.
I can't end without giving a special shout-out to WG who had me nervous (ask Slizz!). He managed his a$$ off trying to take down the title and nearly did it (Millsap went nuts with blocks down the stretch!).
Thanks to all for a great year.
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| 55 | GO
ID: 47227520
Thu, Apr 14, 2016, 22:09
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Congrats to Pete, never easy winning this league.
Hoping I can REBOUND next year. Any chance we run draft lottery same night as real draft lottery? that would be fun knowing picks for trading over the summer.
Although IIRC last time we through that out there was concern about doing that before teams committing to return for the following season.
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| 56 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Fri, Apr 15, 2016, 11:14
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Final Standings:
1. Drummond and Curry Inc 155.5
2. Wazaaap Guy 151.5
3. Endangered Species 133
4. Hard To Be A KnicksFan 132
5. youngroman's Luschen 130
6. twolves 20 122
7. SAN FORDORS 117
8. Mighty Meatwads 115
9. Kevin Love Fan Club 104
10. Skinnee J's 88
11. In Giannis We Trust 87
12. coldwater coyotes 86
13. Jay dog 75.5
14. Bean's Buckeyes 75
15. Roto Guru 69
16. Team Perm Dudes 63
17. beastie miked 55
18. GO Second City Saints 52
19. Vampire Weekend 50.5
20. Naptown 'Nados 29
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| 57 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Fri, Apr 15, 2016, 11:15
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The following managers have had their 2016 draft picks altered via trade:
11-26-14 Toral receives Species' 3rd for his 6th (D. Green)
10-15-15 RSF receives Species' 4th for this 6th (D. Williams)
11-14-15 bmd receives Pete's 1st for his 5th (Collison)
11-27-15 PD receives RSF's 4th for his 6th (Capela)
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| 58 | Meatwads
ID: 142562814
Fri, Apr 15, 2016, 13:54
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Species - The trade between Pete and myself is not listed in post 57. Look at post 44 for the details. Thanks.
Pete - Congratulations on a great season. Once you made that blockbuster preseason deal I had a feeling you were going to be the team to beat. Although you deserve a lot of credit because paper champions don't always get it done.
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| 59 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Fri, Apr 15, 2016, 17:24
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Thanks Meatwads. I have updated in ESPN and will post the Constitution for posterity.
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| 60 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Fri, Apr 15, 2016, 17:25
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Constitution
I Site / Stat Source / League Fees
All game, roster and scoring rules will be governed by ESPN. There is no fee for using ESPN.
II Draft
The Supplemental Draft consists of a slow draft and held on the basketball standings board at rotoguru.com and (or via email to all should the boards go down). Time limits will be three hours for individual picks and 8 hours cumulative clock. You may draft until your picks run out or you have reached twelve (12) players. The clock will be stopped from 11:00 p.m. – 9 a.m. ET but picks may be made during that time. If you time out, you will be skipped and may select at any time. If you have been skipped and have not made up that pick and it becomes your turn again, you will be skipped for that pick as well. If you leave a Q and that person is available to post your pick, you will not be charged any time on your cumulative clock.
The draft order will be reverse of last year's regular season finish and it will NOT snake. Only players currently in the NBA database are eligible to be drafted. Waivers Priority will begin in the same order as the basic draft order (lottery excluded). Please note: The bottom 14 teams will be in the lottery similar to the actual NBA draft. Top three picks for next year will be selected via lottery. 4th-14th picks will be selected based on inverse order of standings.
III League Settings:
Draft Type: Offline Draft and E-mail draft
Max Teams: 20
Scoring Type: Rotisserie
Max Moves: No maximum
Max Trades: No maximum
Trade Review: League Votes (7 needed to veto)
Post Draft Players: Follow Waiver Rules
Max Games Played: 720 (enforced by position)
Roster Positions: G, G, F, F, C, Util, Util, Util, BN, BN, BN, BN
Stat Categories: FG%, FT%, 3PTM, PTS, OREB, REB, AST, ST, BLK
IV Minimum Games Played / Penalties
A team must accumulate a minimum of 656 GP (82 GP/pos) over the course of a season. For each 8 games of shortfall (1 GP/pos), a team is assigned one demerit. Demerits will be integer values only. Thus, a team with 1-8 games of shortfall will receive one demerit, 9-16 will receive 2 demerits, etc.
If a team finishes “in the money” for prize pool purposes (ranked 1-6), then demerits will be ignored.
For lottery teams, the following penalties will be applied to every pick in the next year’s supplement draft:
If a team accumulates more than 10 demerits, then it will be removed from the lottery and assigned the 14th pick in all rounds (i.e., behind all lottery teams, but ahead of any prize pool teams.)
For teams with less than 10 demerits, that team is pushed forward one place in the supplemental draft rankings for each demerit. For example, if a team finishes in last place (20th) and has 5 demerits, then that team will be treated in the draft rankings as though it finished in 15th place (and the teams actually finishing in places 16-20 will each move down one place.)
If more than one lottery team has a demerit, then the lottery rankings will be successively applied starting with the worst finisher and then moving up to the next worst finisher, etc.
Note: While the maximum number of games is measured on a GP/pos (enforced by the ESPN site), the minimum number of games is NOT. For minimum games, all measurements are based on total games played without regard for position.
V Trades
All trades during the season must be submitted via the website’s offer trade feature to the league for review. If there is a draft pick it needs to be posted in our thread at rotoguru.com and needs to be confirmed by both parties. You might want to rationalize your trade as it takes just 7 members to reject the trade. You have one day to reject it so please check the site at LEAST once per day (many will have the email feature that emails all accepted trades). Remember with a Keeper league there may be draft picks involved so take the time to check those before rejecting it. Please only reject a trade based on the trade and not the teams involved. A trade by its very nature should help both teams either now, the future or both. All off-season/preseason trades will be governed by a commish.
VI Keepers
Returning owners will have a deadline to declare what players from their team they wish to “keep” Each owner may keep up to 6.
You may keep less than six. You may trade keepers after you have declared, but you may not go over six until all 20 teams have officially declared at the Keeper deadline. At that point you may go up to 12 players.
If you keep less than six, the only way you can add a sixth keeper is via trade. You may not drop a player until after the draft is complete.
If you do not name your Keepers by the deadline, the commish(s) will choose those for you and they will be final. If you post your Keepers after the deadline but before the commish posts, your Keepers will be honored. Typically the commish(s) will start figuring out uncommitted Keepers as soon as the deadline has passed.
All “un-kept” players will go into the draft. A player MUST be in the NBA database in order to be kept.
The only off-season transactions that will be allowed are trades. No free agents may be picked up after the end of the season. Trades of a player for a draft pick are allowed.
VII Prizes
A fine plaque will be engraved and shipped to the winner courtesy of the previous year's winner. The trophy will be yours to proudly display with your other cherished mementos for 1 year. It will be the winner’s responsibility to engrave it and ship it to the winner. There will be an added nominal fee to help cover expenses related to the engraving and shipping of the plaque.
A separate cash prize pool has also been established. It is strictly voluntary. Only those who participate will be eligible for this prize. $15 USD entry must be paid by the season opener. The exact method of prize distribution will vary from year to year depending on participation. We focus payouts so it will NOT be winner take all. Six owners will have a chance to “win something.” Prize pool funds are due by Opening Night.
2015-2016 Payout has six managers paid:
1st $100
2nd $60
3rd $35
4th $25
5th $20
6th $15
Total Payouts is 19 X $15 = $ 285 ($30 to trophy fund and for Draftime costs)
Ineligible for prize pool:
PD
If any of the non-participants qualify, the prizes will be reallocated by the commissioners. Managers will move up payout position(s) and any remaining funds will go into the trophy fund.
VIII Owners
As commissioners, we reserve the right NOT to extend an invitation to or remove any owner for any reason. Primary reason for being excluded would be abusive behavior (beyond friendly trash talk, harassment), purposeful rules violations (i.e. colluding on a trade), inactivity (i.e. leaving injured players in as starters repeatedly), unresponsive to other owners or commish(s), missing deadlines (i.e. keepers, draft picks, etc.). If an owner is NOT invited back next year. A new owner will be recruited to take over the vacated team in its exact state.
The following managers have had their 2016 draft picks altered via trade:
11-26-14 Toral receives Species' 3rd for his 6th (D. Green)
10-15-15 RSF receives Species' 4th for this 6th (D. Williams)
11-14-15 bmd receives Pete's 1st for his 5th (Collison)
11-27-15 PD receives RSF's 4th for his 6th (Capela)
03-14-16 Meatwads receives Pete's 2nd for his 6th (Rose)
League Champions:
2003 Peter N
2004 A Perfect 10
2005 Twarpy
2006 RecycledSpinalFluid
2007 beastiemiked
2008 beastiemiked
2009 Ref
2010 Pete N.
2011 Pacers Rule
2012 beastiemiked
2013 Great One
2014 WG
2015 Species
2016 Pete N.
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| 61 | GO
ID: 47227520
Fri, Apr 15, 2016, 20:02
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How's the demerit situation looking?
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| 62 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Apr 19, 2016, 11:29
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Re: prize payouts.
The payout schedule listed in post 60 is not quite right. We do not need to retain $30 for the trophy fund and draftime, as we still have $75 available in that fund from prior years.
So the full $285 can be awarded as prizes, as follows:
1 $100
2 $65
3 $45
4 $35
5 $25
6 $15
I just sent an email to the prize winners: Pete, WG, Species, KnicksFan, Youngroman, and Twolves. Hope I had the correct email address for each one.
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| 63 | Bean
ID: 41052279
Wed, Apr 20, 2016, 01:36
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<61> My measure is only one team received demerits. Naptown 'Nados played only 602 Games and finished last. That is 54 games short of minimum, for 7 demerits. As a result he is treated as if he finished 13th and all others 13-19 move down a spot.
How bout we increase the Minimum next year by a couple GP/POS, and improve participation even more?
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| 64 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Fri, May 06, 2016, 15:46
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63: Thanks Bean! Saves me some time.
FWIW, I pinged him with a few weeks left to remind him of the penalty. That is pretty stiff when you were already last.......but that's the point of the rule........play it out and be respectable in GP.
We can certainly bring up an increase to minimum GP and any other rule changes this fall.
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| 65 | GO
ID: 47227520
Fri, May 06, 2016, 16:58
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So whats the final (pre-lottery) order including demerits? just the one team slides down a few slots?
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| 66 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Wed, May 11, 2016, 18:45
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63 / 65:
Yes, Naptown Nados only had 602 games played vs. a minimum of 656, for a shortfall of 54. However, if my calculations are correct, a demerit is assigned for every 8 games the team is short, with only full integers involved. As such, he would be penalized 6 draft slots (vs. the 6.75 demerits 'earned'), as we only count full integers.
That would result in him being slotted 14th in our lottery and all subsequent draft rounds. Everyone from Vampire Weekend down to Bean would move "up" in the lottery.
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| 67 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Wed, May 11, 2016, 18:47
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PS - other teams that cut it close:
coldwater 656 games
Bean 658 games
RSF 661
PD 663
........food for thought as we consider whether to adjust the minimum.
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| 68 | Bean
ID: 292151623
Sun, Jun 05, 2016, 09:00
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Hey just re-READ rules. Yes, integer values, but per the example you round UP.
Go CAVS
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| 69 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 5352110
Sat, Jul 09, 2016, 01:22
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Man, the internal struggles...how do I rationalize having to root for Delly? Well, atleast he won't dive are Giannis' knees...maybe.
New team name "Giannis, meet thy Maker."
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| 70 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 5352110
Mon, Jul 11, 2016, 19:53
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These ads are just awesome... Tim Duncan HEB advertisements
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| 71 | PeteN.
ID: 8550318
Mon, Jul 11, 2016, 20:01
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As a Mavs fan, I didn't like Duncan. I did, however, respect him. Enjoy retirement Timmy.
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