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Subject: 2017-18 RIHC: Draft Recap
Posted by: Guru
- [330592710] Sat, Oct 14x, 2017, 11:37
Now that the RIHC draft has finished, I invite each of the participants to share any reactions that they have. Feel free to say as much or as little as you wish. As a guide, you might consider the following questions:
1) Did you have a specific strategy going in? Did it go as expected?
2) What surprised you?
3) How did your approach change as things unfolded?
4) If you had to do it over, what would you do differently?
5) Your best and worst pick, in retrospect.
6) The 2 or 3 picks by other managers that you thought were especially good steals.
7) 2 or 3 players that were selected higher than you had expected.
8) If you had to trade your own team for one other owner's team in the league, whose would you want it to be?
Outsiders who were not participating in the draft are also welcome to share their general reactions.
Draft results (grid on top, sequential list below that.
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| 2 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Sat, Oct 14x, 2017, 15:54
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1) Did you have a specific strategy going in? Did it go as expected?
My plan was to draft best available in the first few rounds, and to make sure to have a big contributor in each category by the fifth round without clobbering percentages. I think I pretty much did that.
2) What surprised you?
How few guys there were that could give Blocks without destroying FT%. Had to reach a bit.
3) How did your approach change as things unfolded?
I focused on adding to steals/blocks in mid and late rounds more than i thought I would have to.
4) If you had to do it over, what would you do differently?
Draft bigs with decent FT% in the first two rounds.
5) Your best and worst pick, in retrospect.
Drafting Derrick Rose at 12.03 may prove to be a steal if IT is out for the year. Even if he come back around All Star break, it should be a good pick. Clint Capela at 5.10 was a reach.
6) The 2 or 3 picks by other managers that you thought were especially good steals.
Dabomb grabbing Brook Lopez at 3.08.
Mighty Meatwads grabbing Isaiah Thomas at 9.04
7) 2 or 3 players that were selected higher than you had expected.
jasonprof taking Devin Booker at 4.01
mailedfoot taking Alex Len at 9.06
8) If you had to trade your own team for one other owner's team in the league, whose would you want it to be?
Species or Meatwads
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| 3 | BB The Ball
ID: 318101520
Sat, Oct 14x, 2017, 20:20
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1)Did you have a specific strategy going in? Did it go as expected?Plan was for balance. Percentages especially. Ended up chasing positions at the expense of balance. Overall would say I rated about a B- vs. my strategy.2) What surprised you?The limited C eligibility. I seemed to forget the need for 3 centers as opposed to 2. 3) How did your approach change as things unfolded? I stretched for a PG and then ended up doing the same for a C later. Couldn’t focus as much on the balance goal.4) If you had to do it over, what would you do differently?Get a PG with pick 1 or 2. At the least pass on Beal in Round 3 for a PG/C.5) Your best and worst pick, in retrospect.Love Millsap at pick 40. Hate Tyson Chandler—11th was way too early in any case.6) The 2 or 3 picks by other managers that you thought were especially good steals.Jasonprof-5.12 Aaron Gordon—think he will far outperform his draft slotMeatwads-9.04 Isiah Thomas- this comes down to timeframe for return but could be a huge pickupSpecies-10.04 Nicholas Batum—no surgery outcome and 6-8 weeks also makes him a good buy at this point7) 2 or 3 players that were selected higher than you had expected.Mailedfoot-9.06 Alex LenAirallnite- 9.05 Milos TeodosicSanfordors-9.03 Dwight HowardAll 3 were way down in my draft lists but rationale for each seemed reasonable.8) If you had to trade your own team for one other owner's team in the league, whose would you want it to be?I like Species team the most.
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| 4 | Species
SuperDude
ID: 07724916
Sun, Oct 15, 2017, 18:35
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1) Did you have a specific strategy going in? Did it go as expected?
Definitely the "one big, one PG" focus in the top 3 rounds was part of the strategy. Davis and Conley were key picks in rounds 1 and 3.
From there, in a general sense, I wanted to TRY to shy away from boring veterans and get young, upside guys poised for breakouts. Naturally this is more prevalent in the mid to late rounds, and my pick of Randle at 6.06 over more established SF types (Covington, Barnes, T. Harris, Ariza) was one example of this. Jumping on Nurkic at 4.06 seemed aggressive initially but the more I looked at him the better I felt about it.
Did it work? No. Old habits die hard. George Hill and JJ Redick in the 7th and 8th did not fit this strategy.
2) What surprised you?
We have all done enough RIHC drafts (or other Guru invitationals) that it is silly to be "surprised" when PG and C go fast. I will say the overdrafting of mediocre Centers was fairly surprising. I may regret George Hill in round 7 over the likes of Gortat and Adams due to positional scarcity.
3) How did your approach change as things unfolded?
Once you get to round 5-ish, you likely have a PG, C and PF on your team......and you have to kind of decide between doubling up on PG and being strong on that side, or going big again and catching up on AST and STL later. I took Jrue Holiday in the 5th so I had to try to catch up on big man stats later, and I don't believe I really got there.
4) If you had to do it over, what would you do differently?
I would have made more effort to track my projected stats as things unfolded in order to avoid missing what the data should have been telling me. I learned too late that my FT% is projected to suffer.....and dumbass me thought Paul George (89%), Anthony Davis (80%) and Mike Conley (85%) as the higher volume FT guys on my team would provide a very strong base to absorb a Nurkic and/or others, but the projections don't seem to back that up.
5) Your best and worst pick, in retrospect.
I lucked into the news of Nicolas Batum avoiding surgery when it was my turn to pick in the 10th. After Thomas was picked in the 9th, I figured some of the injured guys would start to come off the board soon. If Batum plays 60 games, I think he very much outperforms this draft position.
George Hill is a nice, steady player and should provide decent stats, but he is just so boring and unspectacular and has zero upside. I totally hurried this queue when I was 3 picks away. I should have chosen a Center.
6) The 2 or 3 picks by other managers that you thought were especially good steals.
I think Josh Richardson has a chance to significantly outproduce his draft slot. It's not that he was a huge steal where he was drafted, but maybe its just his ADP that was off to begin with.
I like Enes Kanter at 9.11. Even if he splits time with Hernangomez, I think he will produce double digit points and 7-8 REB and in the crazy Center position, he is a steal that late. I wish I had taken him.
7) 2 or 3 players that were selected higher than you had expected.
I do not like Lonzo Ball at 5.11. It is very rare for rookies to perform strongly, and in Ball's case in particular I think he has a much greater impact in real basketball over what he will produce in Fantasy. I think his FG% will be particularly draining.
Valanciunas is an overdraft at 5.06. I have him in G20 and his usage just continues to slide. He won't hurt you in %s, so that is nice, but in today's NBA, the plodding Center is harder and harder to keep on the floor.
8) If you had to trade your own team for one other owner's team in the league, whose would you want it to be?
Swish. If Embiid plays 65 games, that C tandem is incredible.
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| 5 | Meatwads
ID: 5863742
Tue, Oct 17, 2017, 07:47
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1) Did you have a specific strategy going in? Did it go as expected?
My strategy this year was to get some early round players at the positions most people wait on. Having given away my blueprint to anyone who was paying attention last season, I felt I needed to go in a different direction to keep high-level managers off my scent.
2) What surprised you?
I wasn't surprised by anything that occurred. If I have to pick something, I suppose I was slightly surprised some of the rookies were selected as high as they were. For the most part, I thought everyone did a good job and remained competitive throughout the draft process.
3) How did your approach change as things unfolded?
My approach changed at different stages of the draft. I came in with a "4 quarters" approach (I might have just made that up) where I broke the draft down into 4 sections of 4. I attacked different things each quarter, hopefully ending up with a fairly balanced team on paper, as well as a healthy mix of stability and upside.
4) If you had to do it over, what would you do differently?
I do believe there is a "safe" way to draft in this league. All things being equal, there's something to be said about taking that approach. I'd like to draft again, just to see how my team would look. As with most things, the more chances I get, the better my results usually are.
5) Your best and worst pick, in retrospect.
It's too early to tell. I have quite a few guys who could outperform their draft position, or be a bust.
6) The 2 or 3 picks by other managers that you thought were especially good steals.
Jamychal Green (12.05), Kent Bazemore (13.07) and Richaun Holmes (14.12) are a few late round picks that I think will severely outperform their draft position if they stay healthy.
7) 2 or 3 players that were selected higher than you had expected.
Malcolm Brogdon (6.01), Dennis Smith Jr. (6.08) and Tim Hardaway Jr. (8.01) are a few mid-round guys that I expected to slip further in the draft before it started.
8) If you had to trade your own team for one other owner's team in the league, whose would you want it to be?
Don't sleep on SANFORDORS, who appears to be tanking FT%, but put a nice group together to attempt that strategy. He's the only team that has an obvious make or break strategy leaving the draft. If he executes it, I'm not sure anyone currently can stop it. As usual, activity, luck and skill throughout the season will play the deciding factor.
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| 6 | Swish City
ID: 538201810
Tue, Oct 17, 2017, 17:09
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1) Did you have a specific strategy going in? Did it go as expected?
I've been very lucky to have been a top half finisher for most of the time i've been in RIHC, but i've only ever won it once and would love to do it again. I felt like this season i needed to do 2 things differently to give myself a better chance. The first one was to take better care of my percentages, especially in the early stages. The second one was to increase my risk profile in the latter half of the draft. I think i managed to build a solid base up to round 6, and was then free to figuratively 'let my hair down' as the draft progressed.
Probably there were a few raised eyebrows at picking KAT with #1. I was sorely tempted by Giannis, but i knew with KAT as an anchor at C i could gamble with Embiid.
2) What surprised you?
I was really surprised by the amount of Center grabbing. It's always the way in these types of leagues, but it was very prevalent this time. ESPN's C allocation is incredibly frugal and i think Meatwads maybe got caught out thinking Favors was his 2nd C.
3) How did your approach change as things unfolded?
Once i had Embiid, i knew i had to build some durable players around him. 5 of my first 6 rounds represent durable and predictable assets. From round 7 onwards, i was on the lookout the whole time for upside. Pretty happy with the way it worked out, and feel i did a pretty decent job of not reaching too far.
4) If you had to do it over, what would you do differently?
Nothing really. My gameplan was executed close to how i wanted it. In hindisght, was it sensible for me to select 3 rookies? Maybe, maybe not, but as young players on bad teams, it still feels like it makes sense.
5) Your best and worst pick, in retrospect.
I think my best or worst pick will be Embiid, and that rests completely on his health. Aside from that, i'm most excited about Josh Richardson at 96. I think he has a big chance to be a top 40 player, especially with the injury to McGruder since the pick.
Worst pick is probably Boban, sadly. Stupid Van Gundy going 'Center by committee' Whatever, Stan. Reggie Jackson might be a bust as well, could go either way.
6) The 2 or 3 picks by other managers that you thought were especially good steals.
I thought Rondo was a great one from Dave. I swore out loud after that selection was made! Otto Porter slid way too far, as did Olapido. I think they'll be superb value at their draft slots.
7) 2 or 3 players that were selected higher than you had expected.
Centers in general, but especially Valanciunas, Dieng and Gortat. I don't think Devin Booker warrants a top 40 pick - he needs to offer more defensively, in my opinion.
8) If you had to trade your own team for one other owner's team in the league, whose would you want it to be?
I think Dave R has constructed a nice FT% punt squad. He looks strong, but punts reduce the margin for error and he'll need to stay healthy to pull it off. I did wonder if Guru was punting blocks, but i guess he's more like hedging. Good balance on the whole, and looks strong.
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