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Subject: Early Schedule Musings Posted by: Ender - [13443221] Tue, Sep 26, 22:45 I will post more as I examine the schedule more closely,but here are some early observations: These teams open up with 4 games in 5 days: Charlotte Detroit Orlando Philadelphia Sacramento Toronto Washington Washington rest for 2 days and then pulls another 4 in 5. Detroit rests 3 and pulls another 4 in 5. Charlotte's Schedule goes ice cold with 3 in 9 after the dense start. Philadelphia post 3 in 10 following the dense start. Toronto has 3 in 7. More to come... | ||||||
| 1 | Ender ID: 13443221 Tue, Sep 26, 22:55 |
Here are some teams to avoid at the start of the season: Chicago: 6 in 14 Cleveland: 6 in 14 (9 in 21 in fact before hitting a 4 in 5) Golden State: 3 in 8 Indiana: 6 in 15 Miami: 6 in 14 Milwaukee: 6 in 15 (9 in 22) San Antonio: 3 in 7 | |||||
| 2 | JustinCredible ID: 148231922 Tue, Sep 26, 22:59 |
There goes my Duncan plan, switching to either Hill, Webber, or VC. | |||||
| 3 | Ender ID: 13443221 Tue, Sep 26, 23:13 | I would only get Vinsanity if you plan on trading him early. Toronto follows up the 4 in 5 with a 1 in 5. | |||||
| 4 | JustinCredible ID: 148231922 Wed, Sep 27, 00:58 | Ow, maybe save myself a trade and go with Webb. | |||||
| 6 | swami ID: 238301623 Sat, Sep 30, 23:36 | I dunno on SA. They get 10 in the 1st 18 days of the season. A good pickup is Duncan if you want to save trades for the long haul. After the 17th they are of for 4 days. That's when I'll move him. Do you agree Ender?? | |||||
| 7 | Ender ID: 13443221 Sat, Sep 30, 23:44 |
Upon deaper examination, San Antonio does open with 8 games in 13 days. I was too short sited with my earlier statement about them. If you are patient, draft Duncan. If you're not afraid to burn a trade early, draft Webber and move him to Duncan before freeze 11/7. I will probably do just that on at least one team. | |||||
| 8 | Dre' ID: 238142923 Sun, Oct 01, 00:03 | Seems as though things are getting a bit clearer. Things we thought we saw in the beginning appear different now. Plans are coming together though! | |||||
| 9 | allhair allstars ID: 416123012 Sun, Oct 01, 00:08 |
Dre', Gonna have to start calling you Mr. Cliche' :) | |||||
| 10 | Ender ID: 13443221 Sun, Oct 01, 08:25 | Things will become even clearer once we know which players to choose from the teams with dense schedules. Obviously the stars are easy (or at elast we hope), but finding the productive, under $3 million players will be tough until we get closer to tipoff. | |||||
| 11 | Dre' ID: 238142923 Sun, Oct 01, 13:10 |
allhair allstars - I appreciate it. That's why I like it around here, very good people! You do well yourself. Thanks for your contributions! They don't go unnoticed. :) Ender - Agreed. | |||||
| 12 | Disqo ID: 11859291 Sun, Oct 01, 18:02 |
I liked Webber as well but then I saw his 5 days off and 2 games in 11 days in late November... I will save some money and go for G Hill who has a lot of games. Other teams I like at the start are Houston and Lakers... Also, after Golden State's 3 in 8, they have 11 games in 18 days. San Antonio has 8 games in first 15 games, not 13 games. Also they only have 13 games in first 28 days. | |||||
| 13 | Ender ID: 57472312 Mon, Oct 02, 08:18 |
I stand corrected AGAIN, I forgot the to count the 2 off days in the first 5 days. Sheesh. It's a good thing the season hasn't started yet! :-) | |||||
| 14 | Doug ID: 19850280 Mon, Oct 02, 11:13 |
FWIW, I went through and ranked each team's schedule (independent of players or prices, etc.), and came up with the following list. I looked at the schedule through the end of the year, but placed a much heavier emphasis on the first few weeks. My goal is to draft players I won't feel compelled to trade for AT LEAST the first 2-4 weeks of the season for mere schedule considerations. There will be enough suprises and trades based on performance, so I'm trying to reserve my trades for that. Also, there's the whole issue of the masses selecting players from the top SWP list, not SWP/G. Teams I would prefer to draft from (in preferential order): Orlando, Washington, Portland, Seattle, Charlotte, Houston, Dallas, Clippers, Lakers, Knicks Teams I might also draft from: Detroit, Atlanta, Sacramento, Phoenix, Philadelphia, San Antonio, Denver, Minnesota Teams I will probably avoid unless there's a WAY underpriced player: Toronto, Vancouver, Chicago, Utah, Miami, Golden State, New Jersey, Boston, Milwaukee, Indiana, Cleveland Some of these bottom teams have decent schedules once you get past the first week or two... so I will prefer to trade into players on these teams instead of draft them. Also, at the lower end of the spectrum (sub $2-million), schedule has less impact upon my decisions, and I'm thus more willing to draft from the bottom pool. That said, the fact that Indiana and Cleveland have the worst starting schedules (IMHO) influences my 2nd center spot heavily. O'Neal, Mihm, and Ilgauskas were all on my radar, but I might hold off on these guys for a couple weeks unless one of them really lights it up in the preseason and looks like an incredible buy (O'Neal being the most likely). So I'll be keeping my eye on some alternatives (J. White, M. Moore) through the preseason as well. | |||||
| 15 | JustinCredible ID: 55872718 Mon, Oct 02, 16:14 |
man i love the "Notepad" SW gave us this year... copy & paste, weeeeeeeee! | |||||
| 16 | Dre' ID: 238142923 Mon, Oct 02, 18:33 | Need to know info! Really helps choosing players when knowing this stuff! | |||||
| 17 | Feazdaddy ID: 358471923 Sat, Oct 14x, 00:39 | BUTT | |||||
| 18 | F.B. ID: 13956141 Sat, Oct 14x, 01:56 | Uh, i think i'd avoid Hill at the opening of the season. He's saying that his ankle is still kinda sore and that he may not be @ 100% the entire season. Personally, i'd pick up Duncan and hold him for his stretch of games. Why use a trade if you can save it? There'll be plenty of other opportunities down the season. | |||||
| 19 | KnicksFan ID: 9892221 Sat, Oct 14x, 19:10 | Interestingly, over the full season, every team ends up with 82 games. :) | |||||
| 20 | jesal shah ID: 187331823 Sun, Aug 19, 16:46 | whoa knicksfan, u totally reek of awesomeness. what a stunning observation | |||||
| 21 | CableKC ID: 33826223 Sun, Sep 02, 23:32 |
Assuming most of these responses pertain to SmallWorld Hoops....has anyone checked "officially" with SmallWorld as to what day we get trades? I have been going over the schedule but realized that I can't really plan things out ( at least beyond 2 or 3 weeks ) until I know what day I get trades. | |||||
| 22 | Santa ID: 47312017 Sun, Sep 09, 16:42 | Assuming they do it like the past seasons trades will be given after roster freeze on the opening day - and then again a week later. | |||||
| 23 | Janitor ID: 6815920 Sun, Sep 09, 21:01 |
Any computer/excel experts want to bust out a games per week schedule like allhair allstars did last year? :-) Example of aa's last season schedule http://rotoguru1.com/cgi-bin/mb/hoop/3374.shtml?986661129 Man, I can't wait for hoops to start up. | |||||
| 24 | Knightmare ID: 238581 Sun, Sep 09, 22:39 | Yeah I can't wait for basketball to start either especially since an invalid roster ended my chances in MS Baseball. From what I can tell it seems like Boston, Cleveland, Golden State, and Indiana have the most games. Has anyone else checked? | |||||
| 25 | allhair, Guru Jr. ID: 5881656 Sun, Sep 09, 23:37 |
Janitor, My first venture into this thread. Thanks for the heads up. I'm on it. :) | |||||
| 26 | Stuck in the Sixties Leader ID: 53926421 Sat, Oct 06, 20:57 |
Ender, Doug: I cannot fathom why you guys wouldn't want Indiana to begin the season! They are one of the few teams with NO extended streak of inactivity over the first month of the season and play 16 games between 10/30 and 11/26. I like the Pacers a lot and am seriously thinking about both Harrington and Baby O for my A team. | |||||
| 27 | RunNGun ID: 15850422 Sat, Oct 06, 21:33 |
JustinCredible...in reference to post 15... For some reason I now have the image of a squirrel in my head ;-) RnG ("This comment brought to you by the makers of 'Gonads and Strife'...weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!'") :D | |||||
| 28 | absolut_cdi ID: 35730916 Sat, Oct 06, 21:58 |
month one moves: (30th)houston > (10th)toronto > (15th)la lakers/new york > (22nd)indiana > (29th)memphis or (30th)orlando > (6th)knicks > (11th)orlando > (16)new jersey > (26th) > sacramento > (1st) philadelphia | |||||
| 29 | Ender ID: 13443221 Sat, Oct 06, 22:18 | Stuck, I can't fathom how you missed that this thread's from last season ;) | |||||
| 30 | Stuck in the Sixties Leader ID: 12451279 Sun, Oct 07, 11:35 |
Ender: MY GOD!! My faith in you is restored. Now I have to work on my faith in myself!!!! | |||||
| 31 | KnicksFan ID: 57832250 Tue, Oct 09, 02:14 | I can't fathom why jesal shah would bring back a thread 10 months after the fact to write a response to my meaningless observation in post 19. | |||||
| 32 | mets ID: 136533015 Tue, Oct 16, 19:59 | butt | |||||
| 33 | allhair allstars Sustainer ID: 5881656 Tue, Oct 16, 20:19 |
Hey, Can we either let this thread drop or have a moderator delete it? Guru, Any way you can add a year indicator to message ids? | |||||
| 34 | TaRhEElKiD ID: 6917619 Tue, Oct 16, 20:31 |
Everyone is thinking in terms of days...to get more long holds and saving trades you should go for gms per wk instead of gms in a number of days. So in reality GS and IND have really good schedule to start, along with some other teams. I have Al Harrington, Larry Hughes, and Antawn Jamision off of those 2 teams spread throughout my 2 pay teams and 1 free team. | |||||
| 35 | Ender ID: 13443221 Tue, Oct 16, 20:58 | I disagree it is days, not weeks, particularly if you are tying yourself to trade weeks. The schedule is richer and deeper than that. Look long and hard. As an example, two 3 game weeks could really be a boon if the first 3 are at the end of one week and the next 3 are at the start of the next, ditto for a 3-4-3 stretch over 3 weeks. | |||||
| 36 | prefek ID: 179231618 Tue, Oct 16, 21:19 | Everyone get Eduardo Najera. I hear he's going to be really good this year ;-) | |||||
| 37 | Dave R Leader ID: 147341310 Tue, Oct 16, 21:35 | I prefer Hanno Mottola | |||||
| 38 | Tortfeasor@Tulane ID: 3990179 Wed, Oct 17, 09:27 | No! Desmond Mason! | |||||
| 39 | KnicksFan Donor ID: 57832250 Wed, Oct 17, 13:07 | here's an inside scoop- buy jeff mcinnis (i never heard of him either) and danny fortson. make sure you sell fortson after about 6 games...trust me. | |||||
| 40 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO ID: 9952114 Wed, Oct 17, 18:53 | my bet from italy: kirilenko, UTAH JAZZ...... i've personally seen him a lot of times, and he's really a great player....trust me..... and he has good schedule, matchups, roster position, and, obviously price (500k)......he's a steal!!! | |||||
| 41 | Blooki ID: 359321514 Tue, Dec 11, 2001, 14:00 | LOL re:Post 39. :) | |||||
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