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0 Subject: 500K Division

Posted by: Shelby-villian
- [261146232] Tue, Oct 09, 22:29

As defending league champion, I feel
obligated to try to get this game going...

I'm thinking as this game is most suited to a
"non cost" atmosphere, the undermanned yet
very affordable Fantasy Hoops will have to do.
If the free game will have the same price
variables as the pay game, the game is
doable with the 500k-1000k limitations, but... I
suggest doing a 500K east and west division
(for a total of 10 players and 4 trades a week).
What do the 500k managers think?

Personally, I think a 5 player 500k team is
boring and having a east/west division will
make things even more interesting. As if that
won't make things tough enough, staple
players from last year have been severely
upgraded- 500k stud Hoiberg is at 5.0
million!!! this year. Of course, 500k was
always about finding the sleepers anyway.

Opinions/suggestions?
1louky
      Sustainer
      ID: 527283021
      Tue, Oct 09, 23:33
Nice twist Shelby, I thought 500k would only survive as a free game, never thought about an east west angle. As winner of the first ever 500K game (had to get that in) I think it's a great idea.

I'm in if you can get it going
2havenbros
      Donor
      ID: 33916318
      Wed, Oct 10, 08:08
I'll give it a shot.
3E'ville
      Leader
      ID: 29017810
      Thu, Oct 11, 15:34
I'm game. Need something since # of teams limited this year. :)
4DR Stars
      ID: 162592010
      Thu, Oct 11, 16:01
How does it work? only players with 500-1000? do I have to trade once they go up?
5louky
      Sustainer
      ID: 527283021
      Thu, Oct 11, 16:12
DR as long as you buy them for 1 mil or less you can hold them after thay go up, but if you sell them, you can't repurchase until they fall to 1 mil or less.

Initial team must all be at 500K
6Tree
      ID: 2385279
      Thu, Oct 11, 16:47
count me in....could be fun!
7Shelby-villian
      ID: 18502911
      Thu, Oct 11, 16:52
Yes, that's one of the interesting points of the 500k game. Although your money is unlimited, once you hold an untouchable player (1.0+ mil) and he has a day to day injury, the problem arises of selling or holding knowing that you cannot buy him back if you do intend to sell...

Really, the game is extremely difficult in that you have pay attention to the full roster and be very wary of sub players. One example from last year is Eddie Robinson who was a solid 500k player when Mashburn was injured.
8miguel p
      ID: 37883020
      Fri, Oct 12, 13:00
I'm in . . . I was worried that one of the casualties of the new pay format would be these side/theme games. Glad to see this one's still going, and I love the east/west idea.
9Shelby-villian
      ID: 261146232
      Wed, Oct 17, 10:25
Division is up:

division> RotoGuru 500K
password> sleepers

Each managers should have two teams in the
division-

team name East
team name West

Remember, the initial roster must be made up
players starting at 500K but after the first
game may buy any players within 500-1000K
range. Good luck!
10Shelby-villian
      ID: 261146232
      Wed, Oct 17, 10:35
One more important thing, your West team
can only *buy* players in the Western
conference if SW lists them as a playing for a
Western team.

If your player is traded from a eastern to
western conference (vice versa), you are not
obligated to sell that player from your West
team.

Example: Raja Bell (PHI) is traded to the
Lakers. Any Eastern teams with Bell are not
required to sell him. Once Bell is sold
however, the Eastern team cannot buy him
back. Western teams may not buy Bell until
SW officially lists him as a Laker (LA).
12mIST
      ID: 51140249
      Wed, Oct 17, 11:42
I'm in! :)
13Ref
      ID: 1442849
      Thu, Oct 18, 14:32
As 2-time 500K Hoops and 2-time 500K baseball (never been beaten) RV champion, let me say that the RV prize is equal to the overall points champion. I was JUST eeked out of points champion last year as well. The twist is that the RV competition makes you really have to take chances and dump players that will lose money that may never hit $1 mil and you could lose them forever. Tough game.

Shelby one thing that will be tough to manage--If you want an east and west division, you can't have the same players on both teams. This will have to be monitored. Since Perm Dude is the commissioner and doles out the prizes, perhaps we should consult him (unless we have someone else that wants to take over that role or combine with him).
14Shelby-villian
      ID: 18502911
      Thu, Oct 18, 17:16
Yes, having the same player on both team would be illegal. Forgot to mention that. On the issue of monitoring, its about sportsmanship- buying players over 1000k is illegal... yet no one needs to monitor anyone.

Having a east and west division actually makes players easier to track. If we just had two generic divisions for each manager, it would be tough to remember if there is a duplicate player on the other team.. "Let's see, did he have Rafer on his other team too?" Where as with east and west divisions, it's clearly evident.

I'm looking for another good battle Ref! =)
15Stuck in the Sixties
      Leader
      ID: 419461818
      Thu, Oct 18, 20:54
Never played before, but looking forward to it!
Do I understand correctly that on day 2 of the season, I can buy players priced more than 500K but less than 1 million?
16Shelby-villian
      ID: 18502911
      Thu, Oct 18, 21:38
60's- almost correct. You can buy players after the first freeze, up to and including 1000K.
17clach
      ID: 518402513
      Fri, Oct 19, 03:48
Petarda 500k east and Petarda 500k west are my teams
18jmadman
      ID: 20571712
      Fri, Oct 19, 10:27
I enjoyed this game for baseball, hope to continue to do so. I am in with 500K Eastsiders and 500K Westsiders
19rfs @ work
      ID: 35912198
      Fri, Oct 19, 10:39
I am in w/ skank500west & skank500east

rfs
20miguel p
      ID: 37883020
      Sat, Oct 20, 16:32
I'm in with Rough Riders and Roughriders. If you don't know which is east and wihch is west, you haven't been following the CFL enough. : )
21tomegun
      ID: 258202418
      Sat, Oct 20, 21:21
I'm in. never played 500k. this sounds fun.

BTW, i set up a OTO division. Name-OTO. no pw.
22clank
      ID: 29992110
      Sun, Oct 21, 10:09
I'm in as clank west and clank east.
23Ref
      ID: 1442849
      Wed, Oct 24, 2001, 14:24
PD, are you in this as a player and/or commissioner?

I haven't even been to the game site--but I will put in a 500K team (2). Again, if the RV is a factor again--I love that twist that makes people take chances--otherwise there may be very little movement/trades.

Has anyone discussed LRV yet? Can't find it on the filter.
24Perm Dude
      Leader
      ID: 12943113
      Wed, Oct 24, 2001, 14:36
Sorry, I probably will not be playing this year. I've been very swamped at work here. It's gonna take me another few days to dig out and then I'll have a chance to re-evaluate.

pd
25Perm Dude
      Leader
      ID: 258492618
      Sat, Oct 27, 2001, 18:49
OK, I'm in. Sigh. The first step is admit I have a problem...

pd
26rockafellerskank
      Donor
      ID: 4911539
      Mon, Oct 29, 2001, 21:51
ATTN: Hall Monitor...

Whoever is patroling the east/west rosters for validity, be aware that CHI/PHO made a 500K trade today between centers.

TSN hasn't swithed them yet..

Samake, Soumaila was traded to CHI
Voskuhl, Jake was traded to PHO

rfs

27lionprideguy
      Donor
      ID: 2710911
      Tue, Oct 30, 2001, 01:06
Okay, I always thought this was such a fun idea I'd love to join you guys this year. I'll go with lionpride East/West if there's still room in the division. Of course, I haven't even put together my fullseason teams yet ... gonna be a long night!
28rage_22
      ID: 159572414
      Tue, Oct 30, 2001, 02:15
I'm in.
rage_22west
rage_22east
29Pistol Pete
      ID: 2041038
      Tue, Oct 30, 2001, 09:37
In with East/West Crusaders. Fantastic idea, Shelby. 500k must survive!
30Ref
      ID: 1442849
      Tue, Oct 30, 2001, 09:41
I put in Reflesseast/west. I just threw together 10 different players. Are we adding the RV portion to the game again this year?

Btw, is anyone playing LRV?
31Perm Dude
      Leader
      ID: 12943113
      Tue, Oct 30, 2001, 09:59
LRV in the free game? Maybe. Seems a lot easier with the smaller amount, though, at the same time paying for a LVR team seems a waste of money.

pd
32Ref
      ID: 1442849
      Tue, Oct 30, 2001, 10:19
No LRV is the free game. See the thread. People say they are playing but we need to get them in the division.
33havenbros
      Donor
      ID: 54930129
      Tue, Oct 30, 2001, 17:18
Shelby: Now that we can see each other's rosters I note that mkg's west team has Tracy Murray, who should be in the east -- an innocent oversight I'm sure. Do you have the ability to adjust scores in the standings thread to reflect non-conformities or will everyone get a free pass, with the results counting, as long as they use a trade to fix the problem immediately? I have no problem with an honor system approach, just thought we should establish a way to handle the inevitable roster glitch so everyone gets treated the same.

P.S.: I haven't looked at everyone's roster so don't assume that mkg is the only one with a non-conforming lineup.
34philflyboy
      Donor
      ID: 2844635
      Tue, Oct 30, 2001, 18:47
jumpball and I are in as jumphilflyball
our teams are:
two for the east
two for the west
36rockafellerskank
      Donor
      ID: 4911539
      Wed, Oct 31, 2001, 08:12
I'm not sure if the rules were clear (or perhaps I misunderstood? nah)

reflesseast has a combo of east/west players
reflesswest........ ditto
mkg's 500k west.... ditto

I didn't look at ALL of the teams.

Looks likes there are more cheapos in the west, huh?

rfs
37Ref
      ID: 1442849
      Wed, Oct 31, 2001, 09:36
I definitely misunderstood.
I thought we were suppossed to have two teams and call them east and west with separate players. *sigh*
38Ref
      ID: 1442849
      Wed, Oct 31, 2001, 09:43
Unfortunately there are only two trades, but I will use them both to try to make them right. My one team only had 5 total points. I will get my teams "legal" as quickly as possible--perhaps the two trades will be enough--but again I didn't understand the rule.
39Ref
      ID: 1442849
      Wed, Oct 31, 2001, 10:06
After looking at both of my teams, I can make my team legal after using both of my trades. Unfortunately, I likely won't be able to take advantage of better players which will set me back a week or two--but stuff happens. Thanks for letting us know before using any trades.
40Ref
      ID: 1442849
      Wed, Oct 31, 2001, 10:29
OK, my teams conform. I made sure I used all trades and only selected 500K players (even though I know I could have gotten players up to $1 mil.) No advantage was obtained in fact it was a huge disadvantage having to trade the biggest point producers on one team and putting them on the other team--but I'm still going to win in the end--it just may take a few weeks to get going. ;)

Are we doing away with the RV portion of the game this season?
41rockafellerskank
      Donor
      ID: 57922319
      Wed, Oct 31, 2001, 10:51
Ref -

Wow, thanks for correcting so fast. Sorry to deliver the bad news. I know you were scrambling yesterdy to build teams.

Good luck,

rfs
42Perm Dude
      Leader
      ID: 12943113
      Wed, Oct 31, 2001, 11:03
I don't think we need to do away with the RV contest. I think a lot of guys were just scrambling to get valid rosters to worry about future RV building!

pd
43Jmadman
      Donor
      ID: 267342622
      Wed, Oct 31, 2001, 13:00
Ok, i made a mistake on my East team, It was invalid yesterday, So i bought a guy who was 500k. And then sold him to buy a player less than a mil. Let me know if this is ok. I figure since i burned the trade that i was supposed to it should be.
44Ref
      ID: 1442849
      Wed, Oct 31, 2001, 13:09
jmadman, no advantage was gained so no problem. you did everything legal--you just didn't get the points from yesterday it sounds like.
45clach
      ID: 14428817
      Thu, Nov 01, 2001, 06:18
oh sorry guys, I e-mailed all the division before seeing this thread.
Happy it's all right!
46philflyboy
      Donor
      ID: 2844635
      Thu, Nov 01, 2001, 19:36
to answer some questions about the standings. we will have standings but not for a week or so
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