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Subject: Let's get this Divisional Game Started
Posted by: CanEHdian Pride
- [426351415] Sun, Oct 14x, 22:54
I just spent 10 bucks to get a team solely to play in this game. Let's stop talkin' about it and put it into action.
First let's hammer out the rules:
I vote for a straight draft with no "gurupie movement" unless there are dead teams or we can simply make division of 20 or 15 and only count the top say 15 (if max is 20) and 10 (if the max is 15).
How many divisions, how many teams?
Who are the divisional leaders? I say we nominate the top x (being the number of divisions) managers in the 2000 gurupie standings giving the top pick to the xth ranked gurupie and 2nd to the xth-1, etc.
snake or straight up?
Also a sign up thread will be needed. With less then 3 weeks to tip off and knowing how slow "slow" live drafts go we need to get this thing of the ground. I tried back about a year ago but it never got off the ground, only to the "yeah, that's a good idea let's try it for baseball" phase.
Before anyone starts and OFFICIAL signup thread we have to decide if any spots will be reserved, I don't think a "first come, first served" approach is the best way to go, but then again I am an elitist bastard.
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| 1 | Twarpy
Leader
ID: 3074280
Sun, Oct 14x, 22:57
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Sounds good Eh, I agree I'd like to get this moving sooner rather than later.
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| 2 | CanEHdian Pride
ID: 426351415
Sun, Oct 14x, 23:20
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IMO, I think a 10 team league would be the best way to go. This would allow for 200 managers to be in the pool which would include a good portion of solid gurupies.
From last years standings this would make the captains:
1 KB8ers GM I
2 wEEds
3 J
4 D. Dawkins
5 Bandwagon
6 Steve Houpt
7 ebomb4
8 Species
9 Mike D
10 Hoop Hop
Too many?
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| 3 | JCS
ID: 136251215
Mon, Oct 15, 04:38
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those were the standings from 2 years ago...
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| 4 | BoNkA
Donor
ID: 46314305
Mon, Oct 15, 05:25
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200/10=20
I don't think we are going to have 20 divisions. I think 25 teams to a division with 4 divisions would be sufficient.
Also, with that, you could pick your top 20 who get scored for the competition, and then the 5 that are left are your pool of guys that can be brought up if you have dead/dormant teams. But that is it.
And yes, lets get this thing going!
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| 5 | allhair allstars
Sustainer
ID: 5881656
Mon, Oct 15, 06:40
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1) No slow draft.
2) Snake draft.
3) Will determine # of divisions after # of teams involved determined.
4) Nominated "managers" so far are BW, Species, Ender, Shelby-villian, Guru (who has already declined), and myself. For the record, I nominate Dave R.
5) Waiting to hear from BW.
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| 6 | CanEHdian Pride
ID: 426351415
Mon, Oct 15, 07:52
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The main problem is deciding who is in the pool and who isn't.
If we start a signup thread and allow people to signup who just want to on a whim we might block a solid gurupie from playing. I also don't think we can go solely from past performance because I've and I'm sure there are others have never taken it that serious because i) It was free and 2) Once I was quite a ways out I directed my attention elsewhere.
Is there any way to resolve this issue?
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| 7 | DR Stars
ID: 162592010
Mon, Oct 15, 08:22
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That's part of the game, if teams drop out, the managers that picked them lose with them, you should be able to change a couple of teams, maybe assign a couple of trades per month, so that they can drop dead temas and pick other teams that were left out initially.
I say we start a thread where teams post their team name, id, and previous world rank, and nothing else, that way we get an idea of the number of teams.
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| 8 | allhair allstars
Sustainer
ID: 5734610
Mon, Oct 15, 09:36
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EH,
If I understand correctly, anyone can play. I don't recall BW putting any restriction on who could play. If this follows, there would be no limit on the # of Gurupies who could submit a team. It's possible that not everyone would get selected (assuming there's some type of division/team limit)...
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| 9 | CanEHdian Pride
ID: 426351415
Mon, Oct 15, 09:39
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yeah....i guess that does make sense, a signup does not guarantee a spot in a division only an opportunity to be drafted.
Good call! Let the signups begin.
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| 10 | Dave R
Leader
ID: 147341310
Mon, Oct 15, 15:54
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Whoa guys, this is getting a little out of hand, too many trying to embellish on Bandwagons idea. As I understand it we have 3 confirmed managers at this point ( BW, Shelby, and AA ). If we could get one more ( Ender- are you available ), why not let them decided on how this thing should run, division size, type of draft, etc
They then can post the parameters they set forth and have a sign up of those interested in playing based on what they have decided.
We can't have a zillion people trying to make the rules--- It won't work.
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| 11 | allhair allstars
Sustainer
ID: 5734610
Mon, Oct 15, 16:08
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Dave R,
You're available, aren't you...?
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| 12 | CanEHdian Pride
ID: 426351415
Mon, Oct 15, 17:15
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Personally I think we should have 5 teams. I like a nice round number. I think the more people that voice their opinion the better the game will be. Until the captains in question chime in though we don't have much to go with.
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| 13 | BoNkA
Donor
ID: 46314305
Mon, Oct 15, 17:17
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The idea of having a post for people to "sign up" in sounds good. And that's all it would be, is to get your name up for the drafters to see, but you are not guaranteed to be drafted. Some may not think this is fair, but what are you going to do? I mean, yes everyone could get drafted if we don't get a lot of people to sign up, but if we get, say 300 people, that's too many people to HAVE to get into divisions (yes, I know we won't get 300, but you can imagine).
Anyways, like Dave R said, we should get the managers, let them decide on what exactly is going to happen, and then get it all started.
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| 14 | Dave R
Leader
ID: 147341310
Mon, Oct 15, 17:37
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BoNka ( isn't that a pain to have to put a cap in the middle of your name?)- I don't think we would reach any where that kind of number, based on what I've seen. Maybe 3 managers is enough, at this point it would seem to be, who cares how big the divisions are. I'll bet 3 is enough.
AA- I'd rather not, thanks for suggesting me, but I think 3 is enough at this point
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| 15 | BoNkA
Donor
ID: 46314305
Mon, Oct 15, 18:04
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Dave R: Well, it's second nature to me now. I've been doing it for years (as was the "in thing," alternating caps, but I like it that way now, it looks better).
And yes, there is no way we'd reach that number and I think you may be right on only needing 3 divisions. Hopefully we can get a rough esitmate sometime soon. I say we get a post up and let people reply with their team names, user ID, and past rankings so that 1, we have it, and 2, we can see about how many people actually want to do this. I'm sure we'd have no problem getting 3 smaller divisions.
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| 16 | Megaman
ID: 13443221
Mon, Oct 15, 23:16
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I appreciate being nominated as a manager, but I would prefer to simply play. I have too many irons in the fire (I coach a real hoops team in addition to my fantasy ones) to take this on, and I don't think I could do it quickly.
You can definitely count me in and I will offer up my resurrected "Dragon Army" team name for the draft. I'll leave team "Ender" for the Belly Division.
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| 17 | Ender
ID: 13443221
Mon, Oct 15, 23:19
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HA! I let my 8 year old post a message about Brian Griese in the football forum under the name "Megaman" on SUnday and forgot to change the handle. The above post was mine :)
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| 18 | KnicksFan
Donor
ID: 57832250
Mon, Oct 15, 23:30
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lol..i was thinking to myself "who the hell is that guy?"
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| 19 | tduncan
ID: 47616279
Tue, Oct 16, 00:23
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aa I noticed that on the other thread you mentioned the "waiver wire". I think thats a good idea, but there should be some restrictions, otherwize the managers will just pick the best teams at the corrent time, and any "managerial" skills won't be requested.
I think 2 restrictions should be made:
1. # of "trades". the manager will have a restricted numbers of pickups he can make (either weekly, monthly of for the whole season), so this way he will have to consider other factors (# of trades left, recent points, franchise value, etc.) in the team he sign, not just the total points. this willmake a bad pickup costy, not just a mistake that can be fixed the next week.
2. trade deadline. this will force the managers to finish the season with the same teams they had for some time, and will prevent a division from winning the title becuase of a good waiver pickup in the last day of the season.
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| 20 | allhair allstars
Sustainer
ID: 5881656
Tue, Oct 16, 00:36
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tduncan,
Both good points.
1) I was pitching a cumulative point total thing that went something like this... take an average of the points earned during a given "trade period" (ie., two weeks periods at this point) and keep a running total of points. This way, if a team is doing poorly, even if it's a highly ranked team, it might be shipped out. There's still a possible reason to have some waiver pool movement. Among other things, if forces the "manager" to watch more closely all the teams in the division, not just those near the bottom. It might also keep the pool teams more motivated.
As far as trade limits, right now the only thing in place is no more than 1 add/drop per period, or every two weeks.
2) Good idea. Last waiver pickups the period before the end of the season, or something like that...?
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| 21 | Lorraine
ID: 20725220
Tue, Aug 02, 2011, 21:25
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These pieces really set a standard in the inudstry.
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