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0 Subject: why don't we talk about the fantasy hoops?

Posted by: river
- [36138229] Mon, Nov 05, 2001, 07:46

We don't check our rotoguru teams in basket standings forum either.

This game should be discussed a bit, in my opinion. 2 only trades and weekly changing prices need a different strategy.

I'm doing good right now. On one team i'm trading players, on another one im saving trades, let's see which one will get more points at the end.

Unfortunately we can't see how many teams are running. They probably don't want to let us see how much they got with the ultimate FH. Well, i don't think that 30/40 USD/000 is what they expected.

Pity, i still prefer the old free SW hoops.
1JCS
      ID: 136251215
      Mon, Nov 05, 2001, 11:39
my strategy in the free game is: use your trades WISELY.

We won't be able to build huge RV with weekly repricings and we can't make short-term related trades, if only because of the injury risk...
2prefek
      ID: 301032511
      Mon, Nov 05, 2001, 11:43
Really not much to talk about. I suggest trying to make your trades exclusively on the night before the roster freeze (i think it's Tuesday), but other than the 5 minutes that night we're actually making trades, we're spectators.
3Ender
      ID: 52438315
      Mon, Nov 05, 2001, 11:48
You should still make trades on any given day as the schedule dictates. Just because you get them on Tues it doesn't mean you have to wait until MOnday night to use them.
4JCS
      ID: 136251215
      Mon, Nov 05, 2001, 11:52
IMO, you don't have to wait until the roster freeze to make your trades. By acting this way, you really lose a lot of points compared to what you could have gained if you traded your player at the right moment (like you would do in the ultimate game).

Okay, it's too bad if one of the players you bought this week gets injured before the next roster freeze, but that's a risk i'm willing to take.

I think in the end, the free game might be harder to win than the ultimate game. In the free game, it's really a matter of making the right trade, it's not building RV as fast as you can to be able to have a roster full of studs before the rest of the competition...And there's more competitors too...Not every good smallworld player chose to pay to play the pay game.
5Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Nov 05, 2001, 11:55
A few recollections from prior Hoops seasons with weekly repricing:

1. Most teams will burn their trades early. This week, I'll bet a lot of trades were gone well before the weekend. And many of those folks will immediately spend their new trades on Tuesday afternoon.

2. This means that if you look at the current schedule outlook and point rankings, it will have a much greater influence on next week's price changes, rather than tomorrow's. Thus, if you are trading today based on the facts at hand, try to get players that you can comfortably hold for more than a week.
6Kirk
      ID: 4757111
      Mon, Nov 05, 2001, 12:32
I had 2 players (Jerm O'Neal and Kirilenko) on both teams on opening day. Both I figured to be long term holds, one for value other for points/schedule. Now the other 3 I took one team to have long term hold and hope that they are in the price gainers for couple of weeks (Marbury, B.Barry, Rashard Lewis). Other I planned on trading for money makers so I started with (Francis, Speedy, Ant.Walker). I already got out of Speedy and Antoine for Tinsley and Marion the day after Walker finished his 4 in 5.

The other team I'm not sure if I want to trade, but looks like Marbury and Lewis and maybe Jerm O are my choices to dump. Marbury and Jerm O have 2 days off on 11th and 12th, and of course Rashard has good sched, but isn't Patterson(?) due to return for the game on the 8th? Pretty sure I will trade Marbury to make some $$$ on one of the other cheap guard trains even if I lose a few points, and then maybe upgrade Lewis for points since I have Kirilenko for $$$ also.
7river
      ID: 36138229
      Mon, Nov 05, 2001, 13:09
i agree, this game is even more difficult than the ultimate!
8Mike D
      Donor
      ID: 5851256
      Mon, Nov 05, 2001, 14:22
Kirk, Patterson is on Portland this year.
9jshrauner
      ID: 391047420
      Mon, Nov 05, 2001, 14:32
my team looks like this: Francis, Tinsley, Lewis, R. Wallace, and Mihm 2 trades.

Looking to dump Wallace and Mihm for somebody. Should I still go after Peja and Foster. Who will be the biggest gainers on Tuesday. I think we should all go for the money since it will be so important in this game. I can't tell if enough people traded for Peja so far though. I think Foster will make bukos of dough.

Any suggestions?
Justin
10Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Nov 05, 2001, 14:38
FYI - the sartibles allow you to summarize the price changes from the past week. I'd think they would be a decent leading indicator.
11Roar
      Donor
      ID: 121037513
      Mon, Nov 05, 2001, 14:40
With only 2 trades per week, ALL trades have to take into account long-term schedules.
13jshrauner
      ID: 571059514
      Mon, Nov 05, 2001, 15:07
Looking at the Sortable Stats(Thanks Guru), Tinsley, Barry, and Foster followed by Peja were the big money makers in the pay game. Does anyone have an opinion on how that will translate into changes in the free game?
14Peregrine
      ID: 519222914
      Mon, Nov 05, 2001, 15:22
I would agree that prognostications are somewhat difficult here, in that price gains are likely to be made on past performance whereas points have to be made on future performance. However, the big gainers on the daily game (Tinsley, Barry, and Foster) also have good future potential, thus, should gain nicely on the weekly game.

Peregrine
15slamma
      ID: 13946300
      Mon, Nov 05, 2001, 22:46
Anyone have a competitive division I could join???

Right now, I'm blowing away the competition in my division.
16JCS
      ID: 136251215
      Tue, Nov 06, 2001, 06:56
slamma>> rotoguru.com or Rotoguru, both public with great competition...
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