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Subject: Positional Scatterplot of TSNP/G vs. Price Posted by: Guru - [330592710] Wed, Jan 30, 2002, 12:14 I've posted a similar chart in past seasons, and it often raises some interesting observations. This is a plot of TSNP/G vs. Price (TSN Ultimate Hoops). The averages are for the last 30 days (through 1/29/02), and the prices are as of 1/29. Guards, Forwards, and Centers are coded in different colors. Each point represents a single player. I've plotted the top 50 guards, 50 forwards, and 25 centers.  In general, you would want to own players along the upper edge of this plot. You might think of this as the efficient frontier, as it represents the players who give you the greatest production at each price level. I haven't studied this much (just worked it up a few minutes ago), but here are a few preliminary thoughts:
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| 1 | jumpball Sustainer ID: 33050298 Wed, Jan 30, 2002, 12:20 |
Great data Guru!! The 8M guards on the graph (Davis and Jordan?) look like bargains. And Shaq? Certainly not worth it this year. | ||||||
| 2 | gumby ID: 559211110 Wed, Jan 30, 2002, 12:21 | awesome. thanks Guru. | ||||||
| 3 | Guru ID: 330592710 Wed, Jan 30, 2002, 12:44 |
Here is the same sort of plot, but adjusted to account for February's schedule. To make the numbers somewhat comparable, I'm now showing TSNP/2-days. If a player has 14 games in Feb (none do), that would be the same as TSNP/G. I'm still using the past 30-day TSNP/G averages to do the point projections. So a player with a 13 game schedule now shows a 30% advantage vs. a player with only 10 games (all other things being equal). | ||||||
| 4 | smallwhirled Donor ID: 119491116 Wed, Jan 30, 2002, 12:46 |
Who's that guard way up at the 45 point line? Payton? | ||||||
| 5 | Guru ID: 330592710 Wed, Jan 30, 2002, 12:50 | Yep, Payton. | ||||||
| 6 | Guru ID: 330592710 Wed, Jan 30, 2002, 12:52 | And the two guards to his left (just below the 40 pt. line) are Baron Davis and Michael Jordan. | ||||||
| 7 | biliruben Sustainer ID: 3502218 Wed, Jan 30, 2002, 17:51 | sweet! PSC please. ;) | ||||||
| 8 | JCS ID: 16036305 Thu, Jan 31, 2002, 02:14 | That's just great...Thanks a lot! | ||||||
| 9 | Guru ID: 330592710 Thu, Jan 31, 2002, 09:09 |
Here is the plot (unadjusted for schedule) for the PSC game. PSP/G are for the 30 days ending 1/30/02. Gasol continues to stick out, although remember that he is a center in this game. Tinsley is hard to see, because he's directly underneath Kirilenko ($1.5m, 26.6 PSP/G). | ||||||
| 10 | Mighty Cod ID: 01021713 Thu, Jan 31, 2002, 09:17 | Guru you are right re:the philosophy of spending money on forwards and buying "two cheapie centers." I sold Shaq yesterday and have decided to do a long-term hold on Nesto and Magloire. | ||||||
| 11 | biliruben Sustainer ID: 231045110 Thu, Jan 31, 2002, 11:56 |
Thanks, guru - I was partially kidding, and thinking of attempting it myself. That large group of cheap players above the curve (curve of their own? - Players who PSC didn't expect to start/get much PT?) explains why, contrary to my injury damage control philosophy of owning mid-priced players, I tend to own the extremes. This forces you to own the top 3 dots alot - Webber, Garnett, TD. It's surprising, given the graph, how little I have had Baron and Andre on my team. Scheduling, I guess. | ||||||
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