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0 Subject: OT-Brazilian Boxer Kills Ref...

Posted by: Bob Marley
- [57883010] Fri, Nov 15, 2002, 15:57

I know this is not directly relevant to basketball but I believe it has a connection.

While watching PTI on Espn the other day I saw a clip of a Brazilian boxer knock out a referee. The show had no other details, so I decided search for details online. Although the online source didn't give the boxer's name, it did say the referee actually suffered brain damage. If you saw the clip you could understand why.
The boxer did not get any punishment and I wanted to ask if everyone here thinks it could be a possibilty to put an international sports code into effect that would regulate punishments and also rules. Although this would be extremely hard and probably not possible, it would help the Olympics and international events a lot, and it would set standards for sports around the world.

Im I too much of an Idealist or does everyone think this could be an interesting idea.
1Samuli
      ID: 55105128
      Fri, Nov 15, 2002, 16:04
The boxer did not get any punishment? For hitting the ref? Sssshh, better keep this pretty low-key, or people like 'sheed Wallace might get some funny ideas...
2Bob Marley
      ID: 161040126
      Fri, Nov 15, 2002, 16:10
Haha good Point Samuli!

This is my point he did not get any
punishment because be was a big time South
American boxer and the ref was a nobody. The
boxking league officials said it was an
accident in the heat of the moment but after
landing 4 blows to the head, it was easy to
see it wasn't an accident. This is why a code
would help. I boxer in the U.S. would have
been punished so if that was the rule a south
American boxer would be punished.
3Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Nov 15, 2002, 16:42
I saw the clip on PTI as well. It was clearly no accident. Looked more like a pro wrestling stunt. (Sorry, BH!)
4James K Polk
      ID: 23754811
      Fri, Nov 15, 2002, 16:53
Also saw that clip on PTI. (What a good show!) That ref went down like a sack of potatoes.
5Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Nov 15, 2002, 17:09
Unfortunately this is becoming far too common but many states are enacting tough laws to deal with violence to sports officials.
6DR Stars
      ID: 0839516
      Fri, Nov 15, 2002, 17:50
This is what I don't understand.

If Ref is here, Who did the Boxer kill then?

;)
7James K Polk
      ID: 23754811
      Fri, Nov 15, 2002, 17:59
Lie la lie, lie la lie lie lie la lie, lala lie lie lie.
8Fatal Image
      ID: 11621206
      Fri, Nov 15, 2002, 18:48
that footage was brutal, I saw it too. Sickening.

But when you say 'kills ref' you mean it figuratively right?
10Bob Marley
      ID: 11091518
      Fri, Nov 15, 2002, 19:15
I meant killed somewhat figurativley. The ref did suffer brain damage. To what extent Im not sure. IT was a sickening episode and violence in sports on the pro, collegiate, and HIgh School level need to sto

Im a junior in High School, and this season in soccer, an opposing teammate, cursed out the ref and attempted to punch him after being given a red card. The opposing player was lucky because my sweeper grabbed hi hand as he was about to punch the back of the ref's head. (Reminded me too much of the bRad Miller and Shaq incident). Sportsmanship needs to be promoted on all levels.

11Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sat, Nov 16, 2002, 10:03
So when I put up some of the stupid posts that I tend to do, you can understand where my brain damage came from ;)

Bob, I believe sportsmanship starts at home and then carries over to the coach. If the parents and coach won't put up with it, the player(s) tend to represent that. What drives me nuts is the parents that always want to blame losing on someone or something else. The player will grow up always blaming someone else everytime something doesn't go right--not just in sports.

I like to believe sports officials are merely reporting the news, not making the news. By that I mean, blowing the whistle, etc. when an event occurs and they make the call. As subjective as some of the calls in some of the sports are, they are objective in nature. While, not all calls are correct, neither is every shot or pass or pitch, etc. Disrespect and violence to an official because you don't agree with a call is nonsense--just like the policeman who caught you for breaking the law. The thing about sports is that it's a game and rules are applied based on that game. When the game carries over into real life and affect people's families and carreers, that's disgusting and the judge should throw the book at them.

I once heard that officiating is the only sport in which you can be right 100% of the time one night and the next night you have to improve on that.
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