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Subject: IPO Opportunities for TSN
Posted by: Guru
- [330592710] Mon, Nov 25, 2002, 16:07
There are currently 17 players who have appeared in at least one NBA game this year that are not eligible in the TSN game. Here's the list (sorted by total TSNP):
Hawkins, Juaquin
Harrington, Lorinza
Batiste, Mike
Parker, Smush
Evans, Reggie
Pargo, Jannero
Savovic, Predrag
Rakocevic, Igor
Brown, Devin
Trybanski, Cezary
Bremer, J.R.
Johnson, Ken
Rentzias, Efthimios
Rucker, Guy
Harrington, Adam
Wolkowyski, Ruben
Goldwire, Anthony
Admittedly, most of these guys are not of any value, even if priced at the minimum. Still, I don't understand why they should not be added to the game. Any of them could become valuable at some point if they develop, or if related injuries improve their playing time.
Many fantasy sports games routinely add new players as they appear in games. I believe TSN should do the same, either immediately after a player first appears, or at least once per week. The current practice of adding players on an ad hoc basis - and usually unannounced - is an unnecessary irritation, and could easily be rectified.
By the way, this is not the first season (or sport) in which this issue has been raised. I wonder why it has never been satisfactorily addressed? It seems like it should be so simple to resolve.
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| 1 | Flying Polack
ID: 48914212
Mon, Nov 25, 2002, 16:16
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Yeah! Guru is taking up my cause. I don't know why but this issue has really raised my blood pressure couple weeks.
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| 2 | Farn
Donor
ID: 7822711
Mon, Nov 25, 2002, 16:21
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I am afraid to make lots of posts about it for fear every player will be IPO'ed at 2 million now.
Burke's price soared because of so many requests.
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| 3 | Ref
Donor
ID: 28045169
Mon, Nov 25, 2002, 16:26
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Yeah, it would be a lot better in hoops if they were all IPO'd at 500K once the season started. Who is going to buy Burke at $2 mil.? THis is much different than baseball. When the players get "called up" from the CBA, like Goldwire, why shouldn't they be at the minimum where they may be playable.
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| 4 | Flying Polack
ID: 48914212
Mon, Nov 25, 2002, 16:29
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The $2,000K IPO of Burke was an absolute joke, as is the inevitable over-priced IPO of Hawkins.
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| 5 | Addicted@work
ID: 34256417
Mon, Nov 25, 2002, 16:29
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It's tough when you think you've found the next
cheapie and he hasn't been IPO'd.
I know within the last 2 weeks I've looked for
Hawkins and Batiste and I didn't even think that
Smush hadn't been out there already.
--Addicted--
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| 6 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 211013916
Mon, Nov 25, 2002, 16:33
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Why was Burke's IPO of 2 million a joke?
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| 7 | Flying Polack
ID: 48914212
Mon, Nov 25, 2002, 16:37
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Because he should've been available at the beginning of the season for 500K.
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| 8 | skinneej
Sustainer
ID: 40625911
Mon, Nov 25, 2002, 18:23
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Maybe he should have been available at the start of the season (at a very low price), but his IPO price nearly a month into the season is not way off base. TSN uses a fairly simple formula to calculate a player's price. For those that played last season, it is a tiered pricing scheme based on TSNP/g. It appears it also takes into account total points that determines which tier a player is placed in. For example: those players that averaged say over 25 TSNP/g last year and played 60 or more games, the pricing ratio was 4.4 (divide last year's TSNP/g by that number to obtain initial price). As the TSNP average drops, then the price ratio gets bigger. As you get closer to 20 TSNP/g the ratio is around 5 and so on. *Note these are just approximations and Guru or others can give more concrete numbers.
Pat Burke was averaging 12.7 TSNP/g when he was IPO'd. For that average, the pricing ratio was around 6. Thus 12.7 divided by 6 comes out to be 2.12. He was IPO'd at 2.00, so it looks like it was a fair price based on their system. It will be more than a month though before his price will garner much attention.
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| 9 | rage_22
Donor
ID: 4582621
Tue, Nov 26, 2002, 15:32
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BUTT
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| 10 | smartone
Donor
ID: 29135714
Tue, Nov 26, 2002, 16:08
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could you please add Toronto's Nate Huffman as a C/F... not so many big guys in Toronto, and once he is healthy - he may contribute some TSNPs
thanks
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| 11 | KrazyKoalaBears
Donor
ID: 327481911
Tue, Nov 26, 2002, 16:12
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While we're on the topic (and because the Hockey board usually doesn't get looked at), the TSN Hockey games are missing some players (with season TSNP): Evgeny Konstantinov : -11
Cameron Mann : -10
Mike Cammalleri : 102
Brantt Myhres : 93
Ramzi Abid : 2
Frank Banham : 12
Mark Greig : 45
Darren Haydar : 0
Shaone Morrisonn : 24
Ryan Miller : 6
Lee Goren : 41
Ryan Kraft : 35
Kyle Wanvig : 0
P.S. - It's probably safe to take down the "IMPORTANT NOTE FOR 11/22/02" And please double-check your notices. I don't think the "prize update" was "postponned."
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| 12 | Memphis Fan
ID: 36851518
Tue, Nov 26, 2002, 17:06
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BUTT
I sure would like, Juaquin Hawkins he's getting 35+ minutes and starting in Houston.
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| 13 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Tue, Nov 26, 2002, 18:33
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Reggie Evans is my next-door neighbor. Please IPO him so I can have him on my team.
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| 14 | PGunn
ID: 251028715
Tue, Nov 26, 2002, 18:37
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Reggie Evans must be slummin!!
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| 15 | YOUNGBUCK
ID: 481072620
Tue, Nov 26, 2002, 22:14
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dont lie blue chicken, evans isnt your next door neighboor!
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| 16 | smartone
Donor
ID: 29135714
Tue, Nov 26, 2002, 23:23
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Wow Ming & Francis combo with a great 5 TSNPs 4 mins into the 3rd Q...
not to mention the great performance of Rashard and Radmanovic... seems that GP was eventually my best pick of the last few trades
by the way, i canNOT believe that DEN lead SAS... geeeh... 3rd win in a row for the high-schoolers???
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| 17 | smartone
Donor
ID: 29135714
Tue, Nov 26, 2002, 23:24
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sorry... last post is in the wrong thread... hehe...
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| 18 | The Collenium
Sustainer
ID: 38922223
Tue, Nov 26, 2002, 23:27
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Hawkins is gonna get over 20 TSNP tonight.
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| 19 | asd
ID: 3410422622
Tue, Nov 26, 2002, 23:44
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d
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| 20 | John D
ID: 5210581314
Wed, Nov 27, 2002, 08:09
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The IPO's should be on a regular basis,is not this the Ultimate game. I wonder if once the game gets started and the money is in it becomes low maintenance saving labor costs.
Really Joe Smith is still out with injury. Doesn't seem anyone is doing daily interaction with the game other than absolutely necessary.
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| 21 | havenbros
Donor
ID: 491051277
Wed, Nov 27, 2002, 08:52
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Erik and Bernie have always gotten high marks on these boards because they have consistently provided reasonably prompt feedback to issues like this, even if they couldn't fix the problem right away. Can't say that this time. Other than a long-in-coming post saying Pat Burke would be IPO'd a while back, the TSN boys have been completely unresponsive on this issue - even worse than their non-committal response to the multi-position issue we'd been harping on for a while.
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| 22 | KrazyKoalaBears
Donor
ID: 266182910
Wed, Nov 27, 2002, 16:08
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Well, the "IMPORTANT NOTE FOR 11/22/02" was taken off the Hockey games, so it's likely that someone at TSN is reading this. Not sure why there wouldn't be a response.
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| 23 | philflyboy
Leader
ID: 407561421
Wed, Nov 27, 2002, 17:48
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IIRC they are moving there offices, not sure that is a good excuse but the one being used right now.
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| 24 | Erik B.
ID: 4710212717
Wed, Nov 27, 2002, 18:24
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Guys,
I'll ask the other guys to take a look at this thread and make the appropriate IPOs.
-ESB
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| 25 | Tree
ID: 1910511219
Wed, Nov 27, 2002, 18:34
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cool!
but Erik - wait! what about the other point being made here? a standardization of when IPOs will be added.
seems to me that waiting until people are clamoring for it is too late. there should not be the clamor.
thanks,
peace,
Tree
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| 26 | Memphis Fan
ID: 36851518
Thu, Nov 28, 2002, 22:41
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Marko Jaric now the starting SF for the Clipp.
If anyone from TSN is out there! Please keep an eye on him! He should get F status within the next couple games I believe. :)
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| 27 | Bernie H.
ID: 2610182813
Fri, Nov 29, 2002, 15:56
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Hey fellas,
You wants 'em? You gots 'em. Enjoy your IPOs.
Going forward, the official weekly IPO and new position eligibility day will be Mondays.
Hope you all had a very happy Thanksgiving.
Bernie, TSN
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| 28 | Ender
ID: 13443221
Fri, Nov 29, 2002, 16:05
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Thanks, Bernie!
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| 29 | KrazyKoalaBears
Donor
ID: 266182910
Fri, Nov 29, 2002, 17:05
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Bernie, it sure would be nice if hockey got a little lovin' every now and again. Here's an update of post #11: Evgeny Konstantinov : -11
Cameron Mann : -10
Pavel Rosa : 6
Mike Cammalleri : 114
Brantt Myhres : 93
Ramzi Abid : 2
Frank Banham : 12
Mark Greig : 45
Darren Haydar : 0
Shaone Morrisonn : 24
Ryan Miller : 6
Lee Goren : 45
Ryan Kraft : 45
Kyle Wanvig : 0
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| 30 | KrazyKoalaBears
Donor
ID: 266182910
Fri, Nov 29, 2002, 17:09
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Bernie, also, is there any word on when we can expect our Baseball Prizes that required us to get our forms in so quickly and have now been waiting on for almost 2 months?
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| 31 | deepsnapper
Sustainer
ID: 5210561414
Sat, Nov 30, 2002, 00:05
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This was recently posted on the hoome page:
IPOs
The following players have been made available for purchase:
Juaquin Hawkins, F, $1.5M
Mike Batiste, F, $1.2M
Smush Parker, G, $1.1M
Lorinza Harrington, G, $900K
Reggie Evans, F, $700K
Predrag Savovic, G, $600K
J.R. Bremer, G, $500K
Devin Brown, G, $500K
Anthony Goldwire, G, $500K
Adam Harrington, G, $500K
Ken Johnson, C, $500K
Jannero Pargo, G, $500K
Igor Rakocevic, G, $500K
Efthimios Rentzias, C, $500K
Guy Rucker, F, $500K
Cezary Trybanski, C, $500K
Ruben Wolkowyski, F, $500K
Didn't think we needed a seperate thread, but we'll see how long that lasts. ;-)
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| 32 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Nov 30, 2002, 10:48
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Shawn Lampley was just activated by the Heat for the first time after playing last year in the CBA. Looks like Johnson was put on DL.
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| 33 | Tree
ID: 5210292914
Sat, Nov 30, 2002, 16:17
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Bernie - thanks for listening, and responding, to our pleas!
peace,
Tree
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