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0 Subject: How do TSN Price Changes work?

Posted by: Pimpski
- [130122314] Thu, Jan 23, 2003, 15:12

I assume daily price changes are not merely
volume based, since I have never seen
anybody fluctuate much more then the normal
140k. Especially since fluctuations on
Wednesday (when people can first use their
free trades) are no greater then any other day.
I wonder if they're based on the percentage of
daily trades? If anybody knows, could they
help this newbie out? Thanks. PS - What
does the T in TSN stand for? I assume SN is
Sporting News.
1Addicted@work
      ID: 34256417
      Thu, Jan 23, 2003, 15:19
TSN = The Sporting News
2Myboyjack
      Leader
      ID: 108231015
      Thu, Jan 23, 2003, 15:21
Actually, every day someone at TSN (THE Sporting News) takes special, laminated cards, each of which has the name and picture of a different TSN listed player to the top of a very tall staircase. Each step in the staircase has been given a preordained value. For example, the second step from the bottom is usually worth +40,000 TSN dollars. The cards are then simultaneously flung from the top of the stairs, down the stair well. The cards are collected, with notations made regarding upon which step each card landed. The TSN players are then assigned a price change for that day corresponding with the value for the step upon which their card landed. I think that's right.
3Pimpski
      ID: 370282314
      Thu, Jan 23, 2003, 15:28
lol! Thanks for your help! I had a suspicion
that it worked like that.
4 Hammer
      ID: 590737
      Thu, Jan 23, 2003, 15:41
Since you guys are feeling charitable toward rookies today, I also have a question. Can you tell if someone else in your free division is buying trades? Another team and mine are just about tied for the lead going into these last few weeks. I don't want to resort to buying trades unless my competitor is. I think cheapens the competition. But Howard's going to a funeral tomorrow! I also joined the free trade only league in season 2. It would seem that a league that evolved from this site would not need to be monitored, I was just wondering if it was possible. Thanks
5Pimpski
      ID: 460582314
      Thu, Jan 23, 2003, 15:58
Hammer I feel your pain. A week ago I
overtook the guy who had been in first place
for two months, and he bought two trades on
each of the next 3 days to stop my comeback.
It's really frusterating, but I guess there's
nothing I can do about it. I emailed the rest of
the division, but all anyone can do is call him
names, and watch him win. If anybody from
TSN reads this, I'll pay you $10 to put a
negative sign in front of his score.
6Hammer
      ID: 590737
      Thu, Jan 23, 2003, 16:07
How could you tell he was buying trades? Were you monitoring the roster or is there a magic button :)
7MNG@computercorner
      ID: 40511614
      Thu, Jan 23, 2003, 16:08
So as to not start a useless thread (and then get ridiculed for it) where is the page where you can join the season two basic NET free game?
8Ender
      ID: 52438315
      Thu, Jan 23, 2003, 16:12
Why don't you use the $10 to buy some trades? ;)

As far as the price changes go, you're right they are based on percentage of trade volume. If 100 people buy Player A today and there are 1000 total trades the change would be different than 100 people buying him tomorrow with 2000 total trades. The reason they are rarely over 140K is there is a ceiling. We suspect it is based on a logorithmic scale, but no one has reverse engineered the formula completely as far as I know. In the olden days changes would be much more extreme and owners would often have ~$75 mill at the ASB (or more). The ceiling has made the game much more competitve and interesting over the course of the whole season because you are forced to manage your whole roster from start to finish. You never reach a point where you can just lock a 10 stud lineup and forget about it.
9Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Jan 23, 2003, 16:21
Here is a thread that provides more background on the repricing formula:

Inquiry on repricing formula
10Pimpski
      ID: 490232315
      Thu, Jan 23, 2003, 16:23
Hammer, I monitered his roster; I don't think
there is any other way to find out. And I don't
want to get in a spending war trying to beat
him... I was hoping for a game that would be
based somewhat on skill. Ender, thanks for
the info.
11RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 211013916
      Thu, Jan 23, 2003, 17:28
Actually, in the basic game, couldn't you create a new User-Created division and have all the people who want to play NET style into it? I didn't think the basic game froze divisions.
12Pimpski
      ID: 200382316
      Thu, Jan 23, 2003, 17:38
I suppose I could create a new division, but
this division was already supposed to be NET.
13RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 42121814
      Thu, Jan 23, 2003, 18:05
Ahhhh. Gotcha. Thats not cool then.
14SmackDown
      Donor
      ID: 41127418
      Thu, Jan 23, 2003, 18:13
The free game is just not FUN anymore. I am not playing it anymore. Not worth the time. Best bet is to pay for a Ultimate team and be on a level playing field.

Leave the free game alone and if 500,000 of us do that then maybe they will change it back to the way it was last year...FUN! But people have to make a stand together in order to get them to do this.
15Pimpski
      ID: 400472317
      Thu, Jan 23, 2003, 18:47
Yeah, it seems like in order to have a chance
in the free game, you actually have to spend
more then the ultimate game. Pretty lame.
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