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0 Subject: Keepers League [ROUND 1]

Posted by: Blooki
- [6838118] Mon, Sep 09, 2002, 12:47

Roto-style Weekly Head-to-Head Keepers League

3 Keepers

Draft Order (snake style)
1. LAZIO
2. Memphis Fan
3. Doug
4. Kiwi2
5. Mr. Nice Guy
6. Talonted
7. YOUNGBUCK
8. beebop
9. Blooki
10. beetski

Categories
PT / TRB / AST / STL / BLK / 3PT / FT% / FG% / TO

Roster
PG/SG/G/G
SF/PF/F/F
C/C
B/B/B
IL/IL

Feel free to post about anything I may've gotten wrong.

Let's get started... LAZIO, you're up!
1YOUNGBUCK
      ID: 3080910
      Mon, Sep 09, 2002, 12:52
lets get ready to RUUUUUUUUMMMMMMMMMMMBBBBBBBBLLLLLE!!!!!
2Doug
      Sustainer
      ID: 3411223
      Mon, Sep 09, 2002, 13:17
Before we start, I need 2 draft ground rules cleared up and 1 league rule determined:
(1) Keepers - how many? This may affect who I will draft in the middle rounds.
(2) Are you allowed to publically discuss on the message board (either by naming, insinuating, etc.) players who haven't been drafted yet? This affects how willing I am to try and let someone I like slip to my next pick. In football, you could not name or even insinuate anything about players who were still available. I prefer this approach, but it needs to be agreed upon. Otherwise I'll assume it's fine to discuss undrafted players openly, make suggestions, etc.
(3) Smack... personally I like to dish out the sarcastic smack and receive it in retrun, it makes it more fun. But it depends how thin/ thick-skinned people are... I don't want to hurt or offend anyone (see prior thread)... but on the other hand I'd like to have fun. I don't know you guys yet (except a couple of you), so that's why I'm asking what this crowd is like. I was a little suprised by the reaction to my Heart of Darkness reference... it seemed appropriate since Memphis Fan wanted me to "convince some people of my master plan". =-)
3YOUNGBUCK
      ID: 3080910
      Mon, Sep 09, 2002, 13:26
doug,

were not playing for money!
4IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
      ID: 221441621
      Mon, Sep 09, 2002, 13:34
i would prefer to not mention undrafted players.
i think that we must have a serious draft based on self knowledge, and not on poker face or suggestion by other members.
i hope everyone will agree to not mention.
Anyway, 1.1 Tim Duncan
6Doug
      Sustainer
      ID: 3411223
      Mon, Sep 09, 2002, 13:36
lol... hopefully that answers question 3... my default assumption will be that people don't mind some trash talkin'... but if anyone seems bothered by it then I'll lay off of that person. On the other hand, I already have noted that youngbuck is a punk... ;-)

Still need issues (1) and (2) addressed though
7Doug
      Sustainer
      ID: 3411223
      Mon, Sep 09, 2002, 13:38
Oh, and I have 1 offer for the #3 pick so far... if anyone else is interested let me know soon...
9YOUNGBUCK
      ID: 3080910
      Mon, Sep 09, 2002, 13:46
how iam I a punk? are you mad cause I made a comment? do you have self-esteem issues?
10YOUNGBUCK
      ID: 3080910
      Mon, Sep 09, 2002, 13:47
doug,

SHUT THE FU$CK UP AND PLAY
11talonted
      ID: 317202817
      Mon, Sep 09, 2002, 13:47
DOUG,

Re:(1)It says 3 keepers at the top of the MAIN POST. i guess we will stick with 3. Sooner or later we will all need to agree on a 'keeper method/system', but for now, i think everyone just wants to start drafting and get on with the fun.

Re:(2)i think the message board is officially NO HOLDS BARRED. It will be hard to enforce a gag order on discussion, let alone silence 10 guys on draft prospects. I think it is "let the buyer beware" territory now. If anyone wants to play HEAD-GAMES and start "hyping up" undrafted players, let it be and it may backfire...

Re:(3) "SMACK"... its all good hearted fun. Keep in mind that whoever you talk SMACK to, may be a person you ultimately need to make a deal with during the season. What goes around comes around.... But personally, as long as everything is in good taste and is within the realm of 'basketball', if it gets into personal life, sexual fetishes, mom's or sister's.... THEN there could be repercussions (see ending credits of J&SBSB "f_cking clown shoes" hhahahhahahahh)

lets draft and have some fun!!!!
12talonted
      ID: 317202817
      Mon, Sep 09, 2002, 13:51
WOW, not even the second pick yet and we got vulgarities and lopsided trades thrown about....oh my
13Doug
      Sustainer
      ID: 3411223
      Mon, Sep 09, 2002, 13:54
ted... my question regarding keepers arose because at the end of the last thread, it seemed like 3 keepers plus 1 franchise was the agreed upon idea, but here it only says 3 keepers...
14YOUNGBUCK
      ID: 3080910
      Mon, Sep 09, 2002, 14:17
your not provoking me. it's fun making fun of you!
15Doug
      Sustainer
      ID: 3411223
      Mon, Sep 09, 2002, 14:19
YB, I tried emailing you re: your offer, but your account is over quota so it didn't go through. And who ever said they were provoking you?
16Doug
      Sustainer
      ID: 3411223
      Mon, Sep 09, 2002, 14:22
Oh, it was Rubalamp, in a different thread. Nevermind.
17YOUNGBUCK
      ID: 3080910
      Mon, Sep 09, 2002, 14:34
doug,

what offer? what was the email adress you tried sending it to? cause my account is over quota.
18Doug
      Sustainer
      ID: 3411223
      Mon, Sep 09, 2002, 14:40
Sorry, didn't look at the IDs... thought you were just being goofy posting as "punkbuck" (but that you were interested in the pick). I guess it wasn't you. I got your email addy from the other thread... youngbuck206@yahoo.com
19Memphis Fan
      ID: 30632614
      Mon, Sep 09, 2002, 17:33
1.2 Kevin Garnett

I dont think it really matters. Sleepers have been suggested alot in the other drafts. Doesn't mean they're right, and im all for trash talk; ive been known to dish out a bit as well.
20Doug
      Sustainer
      ID: 3411223
      Mon, Sep 09, 2002, 17:35
1.3 J. Kidd
21Memphis Fan
      ID: 30632614
      Mon, Sep 09, 2002, 17:37
One issue I would like addressed is veto. I think that majority (6 managers) against any trade should invoke a veto. This includes draft trades and regular season. Are well all in favor of this? I think its a needed percaution so someone whos 'less involved' doesn't throw the game.
22beebop
      ID: 3984877
      Mon, Sep 09, 2002, 17:38
kiwi2 takes
T. McGrady
23Memphis Fan
      ID: 30632614
      Mon, Sep 09, 2002, 17:38
Okay, trash talking has begun! KIDD! What are you thinking! He's a horrible shooter! And look whos left on the board! :))
24Memphis Fan
      ID: 30632614
      Mon, Sep 09, 2002, 17:40
Its offical now, Doug IS from the dark side!
25MNG@college
      ID: 117422015
      Mon, Sep 09, 2002, 17:42
MF, I agree but I think if 2 managers think it is unfair it should be vetoed.

1.5 Paul Pierce WOOHOO!
26Memphis Fan
      ID: 30632614
      Mon, Sep 09, 2002, 17:43
Mr Nice Guy with the steal. I know the guy that SHOULD be taken next. :)
27beebop
      ID: 3984877
      Mon, Sep 09, 2002, 17:47
Yay, the draft is underway.....this is gonna be fun...
28Memphis Fan
      ID: 30632614
      Mon, Sep 09, 2002, 17:48
Webber indicted on charge of lying to grand jury.

DETROIT (AP) -- Sacramento Kings star Chris Webber was indicted Monday on charges he lied to a grand jury about his dealings with a University of Michigan basketball booster more than a decade ago.

Webber
29Blooki@lab
      ID: 3683918
      Mon, Sep 09, 2002, 18:09
Think the two managers involved in the trade shouldn't count towards voting. So I think 5 managers to veto would be a majority of the remaining managers and be pretty fair. I don't like the 2 managers to veto idea since and two managers could buddy up and prevent all trading in the league. Granted, I figure we're all in this for a nice fair competitive playing field, but 2 just seems like each individual holds too much power. I'm fine w/ 4 or 5 needed to veto.

And, I thought we had enough votes for 3 keepers.

And, I have no problem with public discussions. Just remember, there can only be one winner. :) Everybody's looking out for only one guy in this draft.
30Doug
      Sustainer
      ID: 3411223
      Mon, Sep 09, 2002, 18:24
At the end of the last thread, beebop posted "Kiwi2 also likes the 3 keepers and a franchise player. So thats at least 4 ppl for that."

I'm not sure if I counted as one of those 4, but I vote for 4 keepers, either 3 and a franchise (as beebop wrote), or some other system using 4 keepers.

I would also vote that 4 should be enough to veto a trade... that's half the managers not involved in a 2-team trade, and a majority if there are any 3-way deals.
31beetski
      ID: 206282522
      Mon, Sep 09, 2002, 18:29
yo MNG thats not cool. u know hes my boy. I got him in both other leagues and now I can have him for 3 more yrs. not cool bro. And doug, J KIDD SUCKS
32Doug
      Sustainer
      ID: 3411223
      Mon, Sep 09, 2002, 18:51
Really beetski? He does? Fantasy, real-life, or... gulp... both? Oh no... maybe I made a big mistake by drafting him... someone said that he was All-NBA first team and 2nd in the league in assists, and WAY ahead of all other PGs in RBs... they must have lied... shoot, I wish you would have told me earlier. I didn't realize he sucked.
33beebop
      ID: 3984877
      Mon, Sep 09, 2002, 19:19
Okay, we have finished half a round, Talonted is up, followed by youngbuck, and then me.
Memphis Fan and Doug have a que in case im at school and its my pick.
34talonted
      ID: 317202817
      Mon, Sep 09, 2002, 19:21
1.6 SHAQ DADDY broken toes and all
35talonted
      ID: 317202817
      Mon, Sep 09, 2002, 19:21
how do you guys BOLD your text???
36beebop
      ID: 3984877
      Mon, Sep 09, 2002, 19:23
[b]1.6 S. O' Neal[b/]

But instead of [ and ], use < and >
37beebop
      ID: 3984877
      Mon, Sep 09, 2002, 19:29
Okay, now its Youngbuck up. This draft is moving pretty fast.....lets keep it up.
38beetski
      ID: 206282522
      Mon, Sep 09, 2002, 19:33
Doug at least u know he sucks. Hes miserbale all that MVP talk HA. watta joke.
39Memphis Fan
      ID: 30632614
      Mon, Sep 09, 2002, 20:28
Only thing decent about Kidd is his wife. Am Im taking her next round. =)
40beetski
      ID: 206282522
      Mon, Sep 09, 2002, 21:06
hellz yes
41IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
      ID: 221441621
      Mon, Sep 09, 2002, 21:24
suckbuck is late again.......mmmmmhhhh, maybe an unauthorized drink has slowed him up.....;-)
42Doug
      Sustainer
      ID: 3411223
      Mon, Sep 09, 2002, 21:59
I just had a thought... suppose it is my turn to pick, and I pick a player that has already been selected (say I had picked Tim Duncan at #3). Can the person after me go ahead and make their pick? They aren't responsible for double-checking me, that's my responsibility in the first place. I think the draft should be allowed to continue, and it's up to me to correct my bad pick. If other players are taken before I correct my pick, too bad for me, I can't "take them back" from the person who picked after me. I know Lazio agrees with me on this... anyone else?
43Blooki
      ID: 6838118
      Mon, Sep 09, 2002, 22:08
Out of common courtesy, if you know the guy before you picked somebody who's been picked, then you should let him know. If it so happens that you honestly didn't know and you've revealed your pick already, then I think you should be able to keep your pick.

Let's have a competitive league, but keep it friendly and fair.
44Doug
      Sustainer
      ID: 3411223
      Mon, Sep 09, 2002, 23:03
Sounds good to me blooki.
45kiwi2
      ID: 24451189
      Mon, Sep 09, 2002, 23:37
damn....i get home from school and NO PICKS.....what is going on????/
46IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
      ID: 221441621
      Mon, Sep 09, 2002, 23:42
suckbuck....you've to have patience with him kiwi, he uses to drink a lot, and when he's drunk he steals basketballs and misses picks......
47kiwi2
      ID: 24451189
      Mon, Sep 09, 2002, 23:48
hahaha...drunken bum....what are peoples thoughts on making a time limit for a pick to be made??
48Doug
      Sustainer
      ID: 3411223
      Tue, Sep 10, 2002, 00:10
Kiwi - A clock is hard because we are international, for example, I don't expect I should have to make picks between midnight and 9am local time, because I am sleeping. With at least 2 in Australia and 1 in Italy, there is no time of day when we're all online simultaneously. I think the best we could do might be a 12-hour clock, just to be sure nobody takes off for an extended period without leaving a queue. You know if your pick is coming up soon or not, I really don't think this should be a big problem. With 12 hours, at most you would need to check when you go to bed, when you get up, and once during the day.
49MNG@college
      ID: 117422015
      Tue, Sep 10, 2002, 00:13
post 46; classic. that one had me laughing for at least 5 mins! :0)
50beebop@kiwi2 house
      ID: 24451189
      Tue, Sep 10, 2002, 00:16
Dammit... everytime i see a new post, i expect (really?)it to be youngbuck's pick....
51YOUNGBUCK
      ID: 331381323
      Tue, Sep 10, 2002, 01:29
fu#k you guys! I can't be on these boards all day you faggots!

you guys bitch and moan every time iam late on a pick but when it is someone else you guys don't say sh!t.


1.7 Dirk Nowitzki


fuc#ken bitches. fuc#k all you guys
52Doug
      Sustainer
      ID: 3411223
      Tue, Sep 10, 2002, 01:31
nice pick YOUNGFU$CK
53YOUNGBUCK
      ID: 331381323
      Tue, Sep 10, 2002, 01:32
fu#k you bitch. you guys are all haters! eat a dick! punk bitches!
54Doug
      Sustainer
      ID: 3411223
      Tue, Sep 10, 2002, 01:34
beebop wanted me to make his pick for him
1.8 Baron Davis
55YOUNGBUCK
      ID: 331381323
      Tue, Sep 10, 2002, 01:35
don't fuc#k up his team you faggot.
56Doug
      Sustainer
      ID: 3411223
      Tue, Sep 10, 2002, 01:36
I'll try to keep this page relatively up-to-date throughout the draft, so no excuses for not knowing who's been taken.
57YOUNGBUCK
      ID: 331381323
      Tue, Sep 10, 2002, 01:39
fu#k that sh!t correct my name!
58YOUNGBUCK
      ID: 331381323
      Tue, Sep 10, 2002, 01:41
ok! I can play this game too.

we will see the next time I pick.

59YOUNGBUCK
      ID: 331381323
      Tue, Sep 10, 2002, 01:43
and kiwi your a faggot!
60YOUNGBUCK
      ID: 331381323
      Tue, Sep 10, 2002, 01:44
I won't make my next pick doug unless you change my name.
61beebop
      ID: 3984877
      Tue, Sep 10, 2002, 01:56
Thanx Doug for making my pick. I am making something similar in excel spreadsheet. Is that how you did that???
Youngbuck, if you dont make your next pick, ill find someone else. It isnt like everything you say came straight from the mouth of an angel.
62YOUNGBUCK
      ID: 331381323
      Tue, Sep 10, 2002, 02:00
so? I dont disrespect his name. he needs to change that.
63beebop
      ID: 3984877
      Tue, Sep 10, 2002, 02:02
So....start respecting other managers, everytime someone else takes forever to make a pick, you start getting all unesacary. Start respecting others too....
64beebop
      ID: 3984877
      Tue, Sep 10, 2002, 03:01
Just for future reference....When are ppl mostly available....
Im usually online between 4-6:30pm and 1-9am EST US time.
65kiwi2
      ID: 24451189
      Tue, Sep 10, 2002, 03:37
well i guess the rumours are true about u youngbuck, u truly are one fuk head, pleased to meet u on such great terms...can u please keep ur sexual preferences to urself also, it is plainly obvious that u wish we are all fags but im sorry to say i cannot help u out there...neway lets get back to drafting, good luck everyone, with exception to youngbuck until he learns to control his temper
66IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
      ID: 221441621
      Tue, Sep 10, 2002, 09:19
youngbuck, i think you can't f#ck in real life, so you fill this board with all your frustration about a poor sexual life......but c'mon man, you can always invest 25 bucks instead of writing 100 times the word f#ck here.....;-)
67YOUNGBUCK
      ID: 3080910
      Tue, Sep 10, 2002, 09:53
you guys are a bunch of ass.holes

espiecially you kiwi. you don't even know me but you jumped on the hater bandwagon.

post #47? what do you have to say for that? I didnt even say anything to you the whole time.
68Blooki
      ID: 6838118
      Tue, Sep 10, 2002, 10:04
1.9 Chris Webber
69Doug
      Sustainer
      ID: 3411223
      Tue, Sep 10, 2002, 11:36
YB - Post #9 was fine, #10 was borderline but whatever, however in #51 you attacked every single one of us (regardless if we said anything to you). Even for those who made jokes, your response was out of line. You had it coming... you cursed me out for wanting to take time to lay out ground rules (post #10), and then take over 6 hours to pick. Come on, dude, such hypocrisy is bound to be ridiculed.

But your response was to attempt to insult every single one of us multiple times with a heavy reliance on fhe F-Bomb, so I respond by tweaking a single letter in your name (which seemed appropriate given your demonstrated vocabulary), and once again you go off on everybody (not just me) in post #53 with a bunch of immature references (a theme that is continued in #59). That's not smack, that's just schoolyard. And apparently the irony of posts 53, 55, and 57 is lost on you... that's where the name came from in the first place! All you're doing is making it stick.

So let's start over - I'll switch it back to YB on the site if you'll clean up your act in here, but my patience with your language and behavior is paper-thin (and I don't think I'm the only one).
70YOUNGBUCK
      ID: 3080910
      Tue, Sep 10, 2002, 12:03
you called me a punk in post #6, thats why in post #10 I said what I said.


I said what I said in post #51 cause you guys jumped me.


responding the last paragraph.

ohhh iam scared
72 Doug
      Sustainer
      ID: 3411223
      Tue, Sep 10, 2002, 13:00
And before anyone jumps on him, beetski has made it known that he's at school and then football practice. I think he gets back around 5-6pm EST.

I would request that if your pick is coming up soon (in the next 3 picks or so) and you're going to be away for a while (more than 2-3 hours) or going to sleep or whatever, that you please leave a queue with someone. If you aren't sure who to send your queue to, I work from home so I'm usually online from about 11am-3am EST, and beebop said he's online from 1am-9am EST, so between the two of us we pretty much have the whole day covered. Otherwise, leave it with someone else that you know will be online.
73YOUNGBUCK
      ID: 3080910
      Tue, Sep 10, 2002, 14:50
cant he use a computer at school???
74beebop
      ID: 3984877
      Tue, Sep 10, 2002, 15:45
For me, i cant access this site at school. It is blocked because of gambling references...
75beebop
      ID: 3984877
      Tue, Sep 10, 2002, 15:55
Youngbuck, in reference to post 6... it has s iley face at the end, is it me, or does that mean its a joke??? You claim that you love it when people gang up on you, then stop your whining.
Kiwi's post was more in response to Lazio's, drunken bum really wasnt anything to get offended by, it wasnt anything serious....
76YOUNGBUCK
      ID: 3080910
      Tue, Sep 10, 2002, 16:10
beebop,

the point is that kiwi tried to jump in were he wasnt invited. basically he tried to be cool and call me a "fuk head". when he is really the fuk head.

see my point beebop.
77beebop
      ID: 3984877
      Tue, Sep 10, 2002, 16:16
He called you a fuk head after you retaliated....
Lets just all keep it clean....
78YOUNGBUCK
      ID: 3080910
      Tue, Sep 10, 2002, 16:21
"He called you a fuk head after you retaliated"


so what does that tell you beebop? that means he had to have said something to me first. I wouldent call him out for no reason.

the bottom line is that he is at fault.
79beebop
      ID: 3984877
      Tue, Sep 10, 2002, 16:22
What my original post said, was that it was that he wasnt speaking to you directly. You retaliated from soemthing he said to lazio. His comments were just going by things he had heard from others.
80Blooki
      ID: 6838118
      Tue, Sep 10, 2002, 16:26
beetski please save us from this...
81beebop
      ID: 3984877
      Tue, Sep 10, 2002, 16:27
Lol, blooki....i think its still another hour or so....
82YOUNGBUCK
      ID: 3080910
      Tue, Sep 10, 2002, 16:36
he doesnt have to be speaking directly to me to be talking about me! I hope this makes sense to you.

so if I told Blooki that beebop was a queer that would be perfectly fine, no harm done right? WRONG!
83beebop
      ID: 3984877
      Tue, Sep 10, 2002, 16:38
Nah, i wouldnt care....its just words on a screen.
What could i possibly do from here to stop you anyway???
84YOUNGBUCK
      ID: 3080910
      Tue, Sep 10, 2002, 16:41
thats not the point iam trying to make.

85beebop
      ID: 3984877
      Tue, Sep 10, 2002, 16:42
My point is just shut up and stop taking everything so seriously....
86YOUNGBUCK
      ID: 3080910
      Tue, Sep 10, 2002, 16:43
here we go again.
87YOUNGBUCK
      ID: 3080910
      Tue, Sep 10, 2002, 16:58
if I told you to shut-up you would get all defensive, I think thats called being a hipocrate.
88beebop
      ID: 3984877
      Tue, Sep 10, 2002, 17:15
No, i would just ignore you (which i should be doing now)
If you like something, why bitch about it YB???
89beebop
      ID: 3984877
      Tue, Sep 10, 2002, 17:27
Okay, it looks like Doug (if thats alright) may be making my pick again, unless the next 3 picks are done in the next hour.
Ill be home from school a bit later than usual because i have basketball training afterwards.
90beetski
      ID: 206282522
      Tue, Sep 10, 2002, 18:22
ok 6:20 just got home
91beebop
      ID: 3984877
      Tue, Sep 10, 2002, 18:23
Cool......im off to school now....Doug has my next pick.
94beetski
      ID: 206282522
      Tue, Sep 10, 2002, 18:30
1.10 Kobe 2.1 Iverson

Wished I didnt have to wait 20 picks cause my guy def. wontt be there and too early to pick him
95Doug
      Sustainer
      ID: 3411223
      Tue, Sep 10, 2002, 18:45
You're in luck! You don't have to wait 20 picks!      (But unfortunately, you do have to wait 19...)
96kiwi2
      ID: 24451189
      Tue, Sep 10, 2002, 18:56
look apology to youngbuck for the drunken bum comment if he took it the wrong way (which he obviously did), the line was spoken in good humour, nothing meant to be offensive to u bro....hope to start fresh with, u no grudges held...neway im off to skool
97Blooki@CarpenterLab
      ID: 368461018
      Tue, Sep 10, 2002, 19:07
2.2 Ray Allen
98Doug
      Sustainer
      ID: 3411223
      Tue, Sep 10, 2002, 19:28
2.3 S Marion (pick for beebop)
101Doug
      Sustainer
      ID: 3411223
      Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 00:22
Hey Talonted, if you're around, please leave a queue if you're gonna go to bed before your pick comes up, there are a few of us up and ready to go as soon as Youngbuck picks (hopefully in another hour or so). Picks 2.6 through 3.5 should go quickly tonight if we can get to them.
102beebop
      ID: 3984877
      Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 00:46
And im back from school. And no, as blooki said, you cant retake your pick. Even if the next person hasnt picked yet, it is not possible to do this.
Thanx again doug.
104beebop
      ID: 3984877
      Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 01:23
Okay, talking to a majority of other managers and through previous actions.....Hangtime will take over from youngbuck.
105Hang Time
      ID: 16730823
      Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 01:24
2.4 Andre Miller

By the way, thanks for asking me to join.
106Doug
      Sustainer
      ID: 3411223
      Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 01:29
Welcome Hangtime... Talonted is up
107MNG@college
      ID: 117422015
      Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 01:32
Doug, I am going to send you a queue. I am not planned up to the 3.5 mark so I'll just send you a gueue of 2 pks.
108MNG@college
      ID: 117422015
      Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 01:38
One more q, are we doing 3 keepers or 2? I am still unclear on the keeper concept.
109beebop
      ID: 3984877
      Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 01:39
3 with the franchise player. We will discuss how long for a maximum or go with Doug's points system.
110Doug
      Sustainer
      ID: 3411223
      Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 01:43
Just to be clear, that's 3 regular keepers PLUS a franchise player, for a total of 4 players kept. We are still working out the details of the system. The idea with the franchise player is you can keep him longer than you can keep the others. But for drafting purposes, the main thing to keep in mind is that you can keep up to 4 players.
111 talonted
      ID: 4088103
      Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 01:54
2.5 Elton Brand
112beebop
      ID: 3984877
      Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 01:56
MNG's pick:
2.6 B. Wallace
113Memphis Fan
      ID: 30632614
      Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 02:13
For reference to validate picks.

Lazio 221441621
Memphis 30632614 (wyoung80@bellsouth.net)
Doug 3411223 (dijital@pacbell.net)
Kiwi2 24451189 (smackie2@hotmail.com)
MNG 117422015 (rollyrollins@yahoo.com)
Talonted 317202817 (isugp@hotmail.com)
Hang Time 16730823
Beebop 3984877 (najbc@hotmail.com)
Blooki 6838118
Beetski 206282522

I realize some people use mutiple computers, so email's can be used to varify. Missing a few people's emails, if they could post them. I know Rubulamp ran into some spoofing problems last draft.

114kiwi2
      ID: 24451189
      Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 02:22
damn it tough...damn u taking elton brand neway ill take

2.7 Jemaine O'Neal
115Doug
      Sustainer
      ID: 3411223
      Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 02:25
"Employee #8" is my team's employee #2
2.8 Antoine Walker
He makes baskets. (granted, not a high percentage of them, but everyone has a weak point...)
116Memphis Fan
      ID: 30632614
      Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 02:28
2.9 Gary Payton
117Doug
      Sustainer
      ID: 3411223
      Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 03:50
oh laaaaaazzzzioooooooooo (lazy o?)
enough with the studying... it's time for hoops... get your priorities straight!!! ;-)
118beebop
      ID: 3984877
      Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 04:25
Well....i am going to basketball for a couple hours soon....kiwi has doug's que, and when i get home, ill have both of their ques.
119clach
      ID: 196491615
      Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 06:27
Doug, lazy o is a great nickname for lazio!!!
lazy o, what a shame for you, you always jumo on everybody when have to make a pick..and when it's your turn..you disappear
you're worst then Youngcuck
120Hang Time
      ID: 16730823
      Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 08:21
shf3@po.cwru.edu
121IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
      ID: 221441621
      Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 09:37
2.10 steve francis
3.1 vince carter
122YOUNGBUCK
      ID: 587512314
      Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 09:38
HEY WHAT THE HELL!!! IAM STILL PLAYING!
123YOUNGBUCK
      ID: 587512314
      Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 09:40
thats not fair. iam being treated unfairly on the boards. iam gonna have a talk with the Guru about this.

you just cant have someone take my spot because your guys dont like me. I never said I was gonna quit.
124beebop
      ID: 3984877
      Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 09:52
I just felt that this league was not going to work with all the insults flying around. So, instead of finding 8 other people, it was easier to replace just one. Ill explain more later....im going to bed now....should be back in 6 hours.
I have Doug's que and kiwi's que, but there may be a trade for picks, so i wont leave the que with someone else right now.
See you all later.
125YOUNGBUCK
      ID: 3080910
      Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 09:54
that is not fair at all beebop.
126beebop
      ID: 3984877
      Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 09:56
I had some complaints....and i dealt with them.
127IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
      ID: 221441621
      Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 09:56
youngbuck, if the majority of us think that it would be better, i think we can do it. There aren't rules about how to handle a private league, and even if we jumped on you, just for kiddin', you covered the forum with thrash talking and dirty words.....don't think the guru would blame us......
128YOUNGBUCK
      ID: 3080910
      Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 09:57
what? if we all jumped on you irri you would have reacted the same way! that is BS and you know it.
129IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
      ID: 221441621
      Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 09:58
youngbuck, if the majority of us think that it would be better, i think we can do it. There aren't rules about how to handle a private league, and even if we jumped on you, just for kiddin', you covered the forum with thrash talking and dirty words.....don't think the guru would blame us......
130YOUNGBUCK
      ID: 3080910
      Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 09:59
complaints beebops? what!

I have a complaint too! but you wont honor them. just follow the crowd beebop.
131beebop
      ID: 3984877
      Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 09:59
Lazio will pick for Doug. He has his que.
132YOUNGBUCK
      ID: 3080910
      Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 10:01
and it was all started by you irri in post #41.
133YOUNGBUCK
      ID: 3080910
      Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 10:01
F-that! iam still playing.
134beebop
      ID: 3984877
      Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 10:05
Thats nice youngbuck.....you can play with youself.....

BTW, I have started a new thread for round 3, unsurprisingly titled Round 3
135YOUNGBUCK
      ID: 3080910
      Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 10:06
that is fuking bull sh!t beebop.
136beebop
      ID: 3984877
      Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 10:07
Look.....i dont care YB.....im going to bed now...
137beebop
      ID: 3984877
      Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 10:08
Just build a bridge.....
138IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
      ID: 221441621
      Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 10:11
ops, sorry.......youngbuck, i wouldn't have react ad you did. Maybe i would have tried to joke them around, but i would never ever had used that sort of language and insults.....c'mon man, it was a joke and you turned it into a thrash rumble..... nothing personal, i would have thought the same about any other of us who would have done it.....
139YOUNGBUCK
      ID: 3080910
      Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 10:11
dont worry beebop iam not done......
140wiggs@work
      ID: 447432423
      Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 10:11
beebop, whats happening? I just wanted to ask you if you know of any other drafts going on, if so will you let me know. I would like to join one. thanks bro.
141Micheal
      ID: 28850112
      Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 10:15
This is the most immature thread I have seen. Ever. "He started it". What a bunch of sissies.
142YOUNGBUCK
      ID: 3080910
      Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 10:16
and beebop did the most sissie thing you can do, drop someone.
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