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Subject: NBA Keeper League Rd. 3
Posted by: beebop
- [3984877] Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 10:03
Order:
Lazio: Francis/Carter/Duncan
Memphis Fan: Payton/Garnett
Doug: Kidd/A. Walker
Kiwi2: T-Mac/Jermo
MNG: Pierce/Big Ben
Talonted: Brand/Shaq
Hangtime: Dirk/Dre
beebop: Marion/Baron
blooki: Allen/Webber
beetski: Bryant/AI
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| 2 | Doug
Sustainer
ID: 3411223
Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 11:22
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I'll pick in a sec...
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| 3 | Doug
Sustainer
ID: 3411223
Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 11:30
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Here's hoping he doesn't go and do something stupid and get suspended for the season...
3.3 Rasheed Wallace
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| 4 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
ID: 221441621
Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 11:49
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mamphis, where's your pick?
why did you delete it?
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| 6 | Doug
Sustainer
ID: 3411223
Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 13:37
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Each time we start a new thread, just so it's handy we should probably include:
roster grid link
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| 7 | Memphis Fan
ID: 30632614
Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 14:52
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I never picked. =( You skipped me.
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| 8 | Doug
Sustainer
ID: 3411223
Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 14:56
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Then somebody posted as if they were Memphis Fan (post #2) and then deleted it later.... sorry, I didn't check the IDs.
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| 9 | Memphis Fan
ID: 30632614
Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 15:00
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As much as I hate having two players from the same team. It looks like the only viable option at this point is..
3.2 Brent Barry
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| 10 | Memphis Fan
ID: 30632614
Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 15:07
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Just as a reminder, please check the person before you to make sure his id matches the list.
Lazio 221441621
Memphis 30632614 (wyoung80@bellsouth.net)
Doug 3411223 (dijital@pacbell.net)
Kiwi2 24451189 (smackie2@hotmail.com)
MNG 117422015 (rollyrollins@yahoo.com)
Talonted 317202817 (isugp@hotmail.com)
Hang Time 16730823 (shf3@po.cwru.edu)
Beebop 3984877 (najbc@hotmail.com)
Blooki 6838118
Beetski 206282522
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| 11 | YOUNGBUCK
ID: 3080910
Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 15:08
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ha ha ha ha ha
YOUNGBUCK strikes again!!!
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| 12 | Doug
Sustainer
ID: 3411223
Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 15:27
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Pick 3.3 remains the same... Kiwi is up
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| 13 | YOUNGBUCK
ID: 3080910
Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 15:40
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what happened to pau gasol? I thought you picked him memphis? i thought you like the grizzlies?
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| 15 | YOUNGBUCK
ID: 3080910
Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 15:48
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what are you gonna do?
NOT A DAMN THING!!!
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| 16 | Blooki
ID: 6838118
Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 16:07
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Save us Kiwi...
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| 17 | beebop
ID: 3984877
Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 16:14
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He may be trading a pick with lazio....sim im gonna wake him up at about 5:30-6am US ET.
I have his que, but just in case he says yes to lazio's proposal, i havent made it yet.
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| 18 | kiwi2
ID: 24451189
Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 18:08
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3.4 Shareef Abdur-Rahim
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| 19 | MNG@college
ID: 117422015
Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 18:40
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give me a couple mins.
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| 21 | MNG@college
ID: 117422015
Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 18:51
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3.5 Raef Lafrentz
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| 22 | beetski
ID: 206282522
Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 19:29
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seems like this is gonna be the "guys I hate" but are on my team league. Walker and Pierce takin. Francis taken, what am i gonna do
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| 23 | Hang Time
ID: 16730823
Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 20:44
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Next up:
Talonted
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| 24 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
ID: 221441621
Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 20:57
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Talonted would you trade your next pick and your 6th rounder for my next 2 picks and a switch of picks in the 7th (it's another half round gained by you......)?
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| 25 | talonted
ID: 317202817
Thu, Sep 12, 2002, 01:50
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sorry Lazio.. gonna turn down your trade offer...
3.6 Pau Gasol
no sophmore jinx... knock on wood....
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| 26 | Doug
Sustainer
ID: 3411223
Thu, Sep 12, 2002, 02:11
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I'm not trying to nag, but at a rate of 7 hrs. per pick we would only get through 1 round every 3 days. With 2.5 rounds down and 10.5 to go, that means the draft would end arond October 13. Personally I'm hoping we can get through a round a day minimum. So please, if you won't be around for several hours and your pick is coming up, try and leave a queue with someone. I realize sometime there are unexpected circumstances and some have more/less frequent access than others... but just as a general rule. And I'm not directing this at talonted necessarily either, he was quick with his first 2 picks... it's all good. Just a global request.
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| 27 | Hang Time
ID: 16730823
Thu, Sep 12, 2002, 02:25
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3.7 Jerry Stackhouse
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| 28 | Memphis Fan
ID: 30632614
Thu, Sep 12, 2002, 02:26
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3.8 Kenyon Martin
for Beebop
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| 29 | Blooki
ID: 6838118
Thu, Sep 12, 2002, 03:15
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3.9 Karl Malone
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| 30 | beebop
ID: 3984877
Thu, Sep 12, 2002, 03:25
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Cool...4 picks in just over an hour....this is some good speed...
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| 31 | kiwi2 from masoud
ID: 24451189
Thu, Sep 12, 2002, 04:42
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masoud says ur a poof dale ;)
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| 32 | beebop
ID: 3984877
Thu, Sep 12, 2002, 05:35
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If anyone wants to leave a que, my email is najbc@hotmail.com
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| 33 | wiggs@work
ID: 447432423
Thu, Sep 12, 2002, 08:58
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beebop, whats happening? I just wanted to ask you if you know of any other drafts going on, if so will you let me know. I would like to join one. thanks bro.
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| 34 | Hang Time
ID: 16730823
Thu, Sep 12, 2002, 13:29
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This gets slow during the day. :(
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| 35 | Doug
Sustainer
ID: 3411223
Thu, Sep 12, 2002, 15:27
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Yeah, I guess beetski didn't have a chance to get online this morning before school. I believe it will still be another 2-3 hours until he returns from football practice.
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| 36 | beebop
ID: 3984877
Thu, Sep 12, 2002, 16:00
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Nah, sorry wiggs.....i havent heard about any other drafts. Ill let you know when i find one.
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| 37 | Doug
Sustainer
ID: 3411223
Thu, Sep 12, 2002, 19:24
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19 hours and counting... =-( Maybe we should install that 12 hour rule after all? What happened beetski?
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| 38 | beetski
ID: 206282522
Thu, Sep 12, 2002, 19:31
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im rite here 7:30
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| 39 | beetski
ID: 206282522
Thu, Sep 12, 2002, 19:44
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4.0 Andre Miller
4.1 Stephon Marbury
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| 41 | Doug
Sustainer
ID: 3411223
Thu, Sep 12, 2002, 19:48
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Dre was taken by Hang Time in the 2nd round
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| 42 | Doug
Sustainer
ID: 3411223
Thu, Sep 12, 2002, 19:53
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I'm guessing he did a search on "Miller", but it's listed as "Dre". You can't assume a last-name search will work. Shaq, K-Mart, Toine, AI, etc.... there are a lot of guys with nicknames or abbreviated names. However, he IS listed as Miller on the roster grid page. which also has the advantage of allowing you to do your check by position.
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| 43 | beetski
ID: 206282522
Thu, Sep 12, 2002, 19:55
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I dunno what this roster grid page is, It kind of affects my Marbury Pick, but w/e Ill take Nash instead
3.10 Steve Nash
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| 44 | Blooki
ID: 6838118
Thu, Sep 12, 2002, 20:03
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Did you want to switch the Marbury pick?
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| 45 | Blooki
ID: 6838118
Thu, Sep 12, 2002, 20:03
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If not, I'm gonna pick.
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| 46 | Doug
Sustainer
ID: 3411223
Thu, Sep 12, 2002, 20:06
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Roster grid link is in post 6... in the future, if at all possible please either check the site in the morning or leave a queue with someone before you go to bed.
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| 47 | Doug
Sustainer
ID: 3411223
Thu, Sep 12, 2002, 20:07
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This has been discussed Blooki, you can't take back a valid pick. I've never been in a draft where you could.
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| 48 | beetski
ID: 206282522
Thu, Sep 12, 2002, 20:18
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its fine, im keepin him anyway
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| 49 | Blooki
ID: 6838118
Thu, Sep 12, 2002, 20:28
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Fine, be that way beetski. You hoard the guards and I'll hoard the power forwards. :)
4.2 Antonio McDyess
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| 50 | Doug
Sustainer
ID: 3411223
Thu, Sep 12, 2002, 20:35
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beebop selects:
4.3 Jalen Rose
Hangtime is up...
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| 51 | beetski
ID: 206282522
Thu, Sep 12, 2002, 21:04
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jeez, I thought jalen mite slip maybe to pick 5.3-4-5
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| 52 | Hang Time
ID: 16730823
Thu, Sep 12, 2002, 23:37
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4.4 Jamal Mashburn - Done and done.
Yahoo! lists him as G-F for now too. So, that's always good.
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| 53 | talonted
ID: 508381223
Thu, Sep 12, 2002, 23:46
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4.5 Peja Stojakovic
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| 54 | MNG@college
ID: 33730190
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 00:48
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4.6 Jason Terry
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| 55 | kiwi2
ID: 24451189
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 02:19
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ill just be a couple of mins
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| 56 | kiwi2
ID: 24451189
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 02:23
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damn it jalen ad mashburn gone SUCK :(
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| 57 | kiwi2
ID: 24451189
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 02:31
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alright its a tough decision but ill take...
4.7 Mike Bibby
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| 58 | Doug
Sustainer
ID: 3411223
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 02:35
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4.8 Eddie Jones
All you MF
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| 59 | Memphis Fan
ID: 30632614
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 02:42
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4.9 Wally Szczerbiak
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| 60 | Doug
Sustainer
ID: 3411223
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 05:17
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I just sent a couple emails to toss around trade ideas... just posting here to remind folks to check their email!
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| 61 | beetski
ID: 206282522
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 06:56
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buttermilkfm@hotmail.com
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| 62 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
ID: 221441621
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 10:05
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4.10: Jamaal Tinsley
5.1: Antawn Jamison
i needed the last good assistman with stockton, and a F......dunno if AJ is the right F, but he has quietly the best numbers or near.......
What do you think about these picks?
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| 63 | Memphis Fan
ID: 30632614
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 10:16
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Needed a good assist man with Stockton, yet you took Tinsley? Not to fond of AJ, maybe he'll suprise this year.
5.2 Dekembe Mutombo
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| 64 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
ID: 221441621
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 10:26
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i meant he was the only one good still there with stockton, but having to choose i picked him because he's younger.....in a normal league i would have taken stockton, but being this a keeper.......now that you picked mutombo doug will probably kill me......;-)
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| 65 | Blooki
ID: 6838118
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 12:00
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Memphis Fan... you mentioned not liking two guys on the same team w/ Barry and Payton, but then you go out and pick Szczerbiak to accompany Garnett? So what am I missing? :) Wonder why everyone's so high on Szczerbiak. He went higher than I thought he would in the other league too.
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| 66 | Doug
Sustainer
ID: 3411223
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 12:19
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Yes, I'm confused lazio, if you needed Stockton then why didn't you take him?
I'm not 100% sure about my own pick here... a bit of a gamble, but...
5.3 Rashard Lewis
Also, I have kiwi's queue and I don't see him online...
5.4 Marcus Camby
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| 67 | Blooki
ID: 6838118
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 12:58
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MNG, you interested in any of my players?
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| 68 | MNG@school
ID: 478551313
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 13:58
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5.5 John Stockton
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| 69 | Memphis Fan
ID: 30632614
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 14:22
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Blooki:
LOL! Funny thing is, I almost took Lewis. Reason Szczerbiak is taken so high is because of his %'s, he's a deadly shot, and not much of anything has changed as far as the starting lineup in MIN. He's also a SG (according to Yahoo) which is a hard possition to fill in late rounds. Id expect near identical numbers, not to mention his contract is up soon I believe, so maybe he'll have some added motivation. Most people are gaging their picks based on ESPN's rankings. Which is pretty helpful, but not always the last word on my decision.. but it made me consider him when otherwise I wouldn't.
ESPN Ranks (as they finished last year)
Hopefully I'll be able to trade away one of my pairs either before or after the season has started.
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| 70 | Doug
Sustainer
ID: 3411223
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 15:02
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I doesn't seem people are drafting by the ESPN ratings, for example, Payton and Barry rated 5 and 7 (ha!) went 19 and 21 (reasonable). I mean, of course the draft is going to resemble it somewhat, we all know who the top players are, but it seems people are making their own evaluations. I know I'm not, and wouldn't recommend it... Webber @ 36? Shaq @ 41!?!? And in a keeper league, people obviously passed on guys like Malone and Stockton in the earlier rounds. I think people are mostly using their own player evaluations (and rightly so).
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| 71 | Memphis Fan
ID: 30632614
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 15:41
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Shaq is at 41 because he's not a good roto player. Webber is so low because he missed half the year last season. Older guys however need to be taken into consideration, as they're not factored into the equation. Payton and Barry are both stud roto guys. :)) Reason why I could let either pass.
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| 72 | Memphis Fan
ID: 30632614
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 15:56
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Nice thing about ESPN, is it's all based on numbers as they were last year. Bad part is, it's numbers they had LAST year. So, its only good if they play like they did, or close. But at least its not some random basketball guru guessing who he thinks is better. And you'll always have sleepers emerge from the lower ranks. I figured most people were using it, because the draft seems to follow it pretty liberaly, and it has been posted in previous drafts.
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| 73 | Doug
Sustainer
ID: 3411223
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 16:01
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Shaq is most definitely a good roto player. Being weak in one area (FTs) is MUCH more than compensated for by his strengths in so many other areas. Health issues aside, last year he averaged a couple more points, .6 less TOs and a much better FG% than Tim Duncan... a couple less boards, .7 less assist, .5 less block and much worse FT%. I'm not saying he's better than Duncan, but their stats are close, and I would definitely take him top 10 (not top 5)... even with the health issues! Having stats that are comparable to the consensus #1 fantasy player does not translate to "not a good roto player". He's only weak in FTs, a price most are more than willing to pay to get those high stats in other categories.
As for Webber... last 5 seasons... 71, 42, 75, 70, and 54 games. I can deal with anything in the 70s... he only had 2 years where he missed a significant portion of the season. Barry had decent numbers last year, but what about the year before? He's had as many health issues as Webber in past seasons, with less than 70 games 4 of his 7 years in the league.
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| 76 | Blooki
ID: 6838118
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 16:20
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Go Webber! :)
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| 77 | Doug
Sustainer
ID: 3411223
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 16:34
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Well, personally, while I DO think you are being genuine in that you find the ratings helpful, you also seem to be hyping Barry so that someone else will overpay to trade for him, thinking he's a lock to be a top-20 player when if you really look at his career (or even first 2 seasons with Seattle) he becomes a lot less attractive.
FWIW, you claim that he wasn't a starter before (as if that's the difference in his stats), but that claim is false. 3 seasons ago in 99-00 he started 74 games, and his pts/bds/asts were lower (and 34 mins vs. 37 mins last year, so it's not because he didn't have playing time).
Then, 2 seasons ago (00-01), he was slated as the starter but he couldn't stay healthy enough. They did start him in 20 games, but he missed 15 because of injury. The other 47 games he came off the bench because he wasn't in good enough shape to start.
Oh, and by the way, 4 years ago in Chicago he was also slated as a starter, and started 30 of the 37 games that he was healthy enough to play in. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he sucks, but he HAS been a starter and his numbers were not as good as his career year last year, he has had more than his share of injury problems, and thus he is nowhere near the #7 rating ESPN gives him. Just my .02.
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| 78 | Blooki
ID: 6838118
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 16:38
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I like Barry. :)
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| 79 | Doug
Sustainer
ID: 3411223
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 16:50
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LOL... like I said, me too... I just don't #7 (or even necessarily #20) like him... that's all I'm saying, it's all relative...
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| 81 | Memphis Fan
ID: 30632614
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 17:11
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Your wrong Doug.
99-00 80 games played, 74 games started
00-01 67 games played, only 20 started
01-02 his obviously good year, was only 3 PPG and less than 1 REB better than 99-00. not much of a difference IMO.
Other years, your correct, he was with Bulls. Among other teams. Im not trying to bolster his value, I dont plan on trading him. :)
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| 84 | Doug
Sustainer
ID: 3411223
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 17:37
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Memphis Fan... I'm confused... you say I'm wrong, then restate exactly what I said??? He was a starter 3 years ago (healthy... started 74 games), was "slated" as the starter 2 years ago (but was only able to start 20, missed games 15 completely due to injury, and was limited to coming off bench most of season), and was a starter last year. That's exactly what I said... so how am I wrong? Even the year before, Chicago, he started in 30 of 37 games... so yes, he was a starter then too. He missed most of the season due to injury, but his averages are only for games played, over 3/4 of which he started in. Otherwise, it's like saying that Webber wasn't Sacramento's starter last year. The point is, when he's healthy enough to play, he starts. So if we have the same numbers, the only thing I don't understand why you say (a) I'm wrong, and (b) "Previous years, Barry wasn't a starter". The only year of the last 4 that he wasn't a starter was 00-01, when he was supposed to be the starter but was limited to coming off the bench most of the year. The other 3 years he _was_ the starter (when healthy enough to play at all).
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| 86 | Doug
Sustainer
ID: 3411223
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 17:45
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It's not just the points and boards that were high last year (comparing last year to 99-00 when he also started for Seattle)... assists jumped from 3.6 to 5.3, steals from 1.3 to 1.8, FT % from 81 to 85, FG% from 46 to 51%... if he repeats last year, great. But I won't be at all suprised to see his numbers start to taper off a bit this year. The one caveat is that if Seattle blows chunks this year, he might see more time against opps reserves, in which case I guess he could post similar numbers.
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| 88 | Memphis Fan
ID: 30632614
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 17:49
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I'll take his upward trend! MVP this year! LOL
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| 91 | Doug
Sustainer
ID: 3411223
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 17:52
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My other concern with Barry is exactly what you mentoined... Mason... Seattle is rebuilding (shipping Baker, shopping Payton to Indiana, etc.), which is also why they want to get Lewis under a reasonable contract, so that they still have cap room to get another young star. They'll develop Mason, Lewis, (Tinsley if they can work the Indiana trade) and other young guys into their team of their future. Barry is turns 32 in December, and is not part of their long-term plans (IMHO), he's just filling the gap for now, until Mason is ready to step up.
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| 92 | Memphis Fan
ID: 30632614
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 17:54
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Nah. Mason is a forward. He cant play SG. Youve lost your mind or havent watched many Seattle games.
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| 93 | beebop
ID: 3984877
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 17:58
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This is turning out to be a very interesting debate.....
I was thinking (i know its hard to believe), but, how about next time we need to start a new thread, we have one for discussion and one for the picks???
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| 94 | Memphis Fan
ID: 30632614
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 17:58
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IF there were trying to phase in D. Mase instead of Barry he would have backed Barry up last year. Instead, he was behind Lewis at SF. FWIW.
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| 95 | Doug
Sustainer
ID: 3411223
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 18:01
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Post 85 - "he didn't start because of DMason"
If they played different positions, why would this be relevant? You seem to trust ESPN... their updated depth chart lists Mason as the backup SG and Lewis as the SF.
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| 96 | Memphis Fan
ID: 30632614
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 18:04
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This was two years ago.
BTW. ESPN - i only trust ESPN for old stats. And im fortunate enough to have season pass. So I catch Seattle games.
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| 97 | Memphis Fan
ID: 30632614
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 18:05
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Two years ago was the failed experiment with DMase @ SG. BTW. Dont know why i keep multi-posting, gonna have to self-edit these babies.
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| 98 | Memphis Fan
ID: 30632614
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 18:08
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If you want the real Seattle depth chart its:
PG: GP/Anderson
SG: Barry/Forte
SF: Lewis/Mason
PF: Rad-Bitch/Drob
C: Booth/James
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| 99 | Doug
Sustainer
ID: 3411223
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 18:10
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If you want the real Seattle depth chart its:
PG: GP/Anderson
SG: Barry/Mason/Forte
SF: Lewis/Sesay
PF: Rad-Bitch/Drob/Long
C: James/Booth/Potepenko
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| 100 | Blooki
ID: 6838118
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 18:14
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Look we can play FANTASY Fantasy Basketball all we want, but it's still all speculation. Why don't we just wait for the season to start and see how Barry does? Then discuss if in retrospect...
Anybody know where talonted is?
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| 101 | Memphis Fan
ID: 30632614
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 18:15
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LOL, Doug, youve lost your mind. First thinking Barry isnt good. Trying to discredit the ESPN rankings, even tho you love their depth chart. And now saying Mason is going to debunk Barry. I wont argue when you've obviously never seen a Seattle game and have some vengance against Barry who's one of the best Roto players. Guess your either pissed you passed him or hate white men that can jump! :)
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| 102 | Memphis Fan
ID: 30632614
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 18:20
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BTW, Half of ESPN has him as SF, then the half your looking at obviously has him listed as a Guard. I wouldnt trust a site who isnt consistant on possitions.
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| 103 | Memphis Fan
ID: 30632614
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 18:22
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Im off -- should be back on Sunday. Hopefully talonted will have picked by then. :)
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| 104 | Doug
Sustainer
ID: 3411223
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 18:34
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"First thinking Barry isnt good." - I've already stated otherwise twice... do I really need to do so again? All I ever said was that following the ESPN ratings and picking Barry at #7 was a joke. Doesn't mean I don't like him, but I really shouldn't need to explain that a third time, should I? We've already IMed about your counting issue... ;-)
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| 105 | Doug
Sustainer
ID: 3411223
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 18:35
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Re: post 102... hey, I wouldn't trust that site (ESPN) either!!! We agree!!!
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| 106 | talonted
ID: 317202817
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 19:00
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5.6 Elden Campbell
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| 107 | Memphis Fan
ID: 30632614
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 19:03
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Has Youngbuck taken over your computer Doug?
Your talking like a madman! As I said, ESPN is out of date. Hence why you shouldnt trust their depth charts. However, even being out of date, their last years stats are still applicable.
I dont see how you can argue Barry @ #7 when its all based on an equation to determine stats. But hey, argue the numbers all you want. He's still going to be #7. :)
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| 108 | Blooki
ID: 6838118
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 19:13
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If you go by averages on the ESPN list, which I find more useful, Barry drops to #13 which probably appeases you more Doug. Also, if you'll note, under this system, Barry stands to gain from his FG% and FT%. The problem is, while his individual percentages are good, he doesn't take as many shots or FTs as some of the other players you might have on your fantasy team, thus the benefits of those categories should be weighted less. This'll probably put him around #15 or #16. Move up Ben Wallace and Shaquille O'neal because C's the hardest position to fill and voila... you have Brent Barry around the 17th or 18th pick and lo and behold, that's about where he went. See the ESPN list is helpful and see Brent Barry is a deceptively good Roto player despite his lack of star status. Now can't we all just get along?
Hang Time! :)
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| 109 | MNG@college
ID: 117422015
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 19:15
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I'm likin so far.
PG Stockton
SG Terry
G
SF Pierce
PF
F
C Wallace
C Lafrentz
U
U
B
B
B
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| 110 | Blooki
ID: 6838118
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 19:15
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Oh wait, he went 22. Payton went 19. How'd that happen?!?!? Anyways... nonetheless, I agree w/ MF and that they were both steals.
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| 111 | Blooki
ID: 6838118
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 19:17
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I like that team too MNG. LaFrentz would probably be the only pick I would disagree w/. BTW, we don't have Utility slots in this league. Just 4th Gs and Fs slots.
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| 112 | Memphis Fan
ID: 30632614
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 19:19
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http://www.siriusadventures.com/nba.html
doug's creation, quite handy.
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| 113 | MNG@college
ID: 117422015
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 19:22
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had no idea, so its
pg, sg, g, g, sf, pf, f, f, c, c, b, b, b?
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| 114 | Blooki
ID: 6838118
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 19:22
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Yup MNG.
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| 115 | beetski
ID: 138221319
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 19:23
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ahh comp isnt working
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| 116 | Memphis Fan
ID: 30632614
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 22:11
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Anyone interested in trades..
Im looking to break up my pairs. GP+Wally for someone+someone ;)
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| 117 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
ID: 221441621
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 22:17
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tinsley and jamison?;-)
or tinsley and my next pick.......;-)
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| 118 | Blooki
ID: 6838118
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 22:44
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Any offers for Webber? :)
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| 119 | kiwi2
ID: 24451189
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 22:49
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rahim ;)
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| 120 | Blooki
ID: 6838118
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 23:23
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There's been a trade.
Kiwi and I have agreed to trade...
Chris Webber for Jermaine O'neal and Kiwi's 6th round pick (Pick 6.7)
Doug can you please make a note of this?
Kiwi can you confirm this?
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| 121 | kiwi2
ID: 24451189
Fri, Sep 13, 2002, 23:23
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trade between blooki and myself
webber for jemaine oneal+ 6th round pick
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| 122 | Hang Time
ID: 16730823
Sat, Sep 14, 2002, 02:16
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I'm too drunk droto too dpick prighjt rnow. SO juts liset my up my when done. Just tell me wtomorrow thewn
when oi pick.
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| 123 | MNG@college
ID: 117422015
Sat, Sep 14, 2002, 02:38
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LOL!
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| 124 | Hang Time
ID: 16730823
Sat, Sep 14, 2002, 14:11
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Olowokandi, Michael - A center, a rebounder, and blocker. I guess that's what I need.
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| 125 | beetski
ID: 206282522
Sat, Sep 14, 2002, 14:47
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so that was 5.7
i have two guys ready hoping they dont go. guess whichposition they're not gonna play
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| 126 | beebop
ID: 3984877
Sat, Sep 14, 2002, 15:33
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Wheres the fun if u dont take a risk????
5.8 G. Hill
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| 127 | Doug
Sustainer
ID: 3411223
Sat, Sep 14, 2002, 15:51
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Just one last comment regarding ESPN... you said their depth charts are out of date. Just FYI, for every sigificant signing or trade in the last few weeks (as long as I've been following them), they have updated those depth charts within a few hours (Zo being the most recent example). There have also been a few moves (for 2nd-3rd stringers) that haven't had any accompanying news item... I'm guessing their research department just learned something about a change in the team's plans for the upcoming season, maybe based on summer league, etc. Not newsworthy stuff, but obviously someone is staying on top of it on a very regular basis. Again, just FYI.
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| 128 | Memphis Fan
ID: 30632614
Sat, Sep 14, 2002, 16:36
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Uhm, They're depth charts arent even consistant. The insider has a different one than the rest of their site. But yeah, they moved Zo. www.realgm.com -- best depth charts.
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| 129 | Memphis Fan
ID: 30632614
Sat, Sep 14, 2002, 16:42
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http://games.espn.go.com/cgi/fba/Request.dll?DEPTH&Param0=2
Nazr starting over Theo, RIIIGHT
Murry over Ricky Davis, SUUREE, heck, that lowly draft pick Dajaun Wagner isnt even 2nd string.
Oh, and where's Ming? Taylor AND Cato over him. Yeah.. okay. No need to pick more holes.
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| 130 | Doug
Sustainer
ID: 3411223
Sat, Sep 14, 2002, 16:43
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Of course I'm talking about Insider... pay no attention to the public ones. If THAT is what you were talking about, them yeah, they're out of date.
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| 131 | Doug
Sustainer
ID: 3411223
Sat, Sep 14, 2002, 16:45
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Wrong set of depth charts bro. Like I said, Insider.
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| 132 | Doug
Sustainer
ID: 3411223
Sat, Sep 14, 2002, 16:50
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Well, went to realgm and looked at the very first depth chart that came up... Boston. Everything that I've read (other than this site) said that Boston brought in Baker to play C, not to to sit on the Bench and spell Walker. Of course, mabye they're right... maybe they know something the rest of the world doesn't.
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| 133 | Doug
Sustainer
ID: 3411223
Sat, Sep 14, 2002, 16:52
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Actually, I take that back... the one other theory I heard was move Pierce from SF to SG, Walker from PF to SF, and Baker at PF. But not come in off the bench.
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| 134 | Blooki
ID: 6838118
Sun, Sep 15, 2002, 00:24
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5.9 Glenn Robinson
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| 135 | beebop
ID: 3984877
Sun, Sep 15, 2002, 04:42
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I guess weekends are going to be slow......
So ill take the time to create a new Thread
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