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Subject: AAA#2 discussion allstar and on
Posted by: WonderB
- Sustainer [241053812] Sun, Feb 10, 2008, 01:06
i'll just sit back and watch my team cruise to the top now. |
| 1 | Pacers Rule
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Sun, Feb 10, 2008, 18:22
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What's the in-flight movie? I assume you'll be taking a plane to cover that kind of distance. duhdunt-chhh
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| 2 | WonderB
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Sun, Feb 10, 2008, 19:53
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camoflage and stealth.
you won't even notice till it's too late.
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| 3 | Slowhand
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Fri, Feb 15, 2008, 00:30
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PR sent you a trade offer for Arenas....not sure what you're looking for so make a counter offer if mine doesn't suit you. I'd take a chance as I'm mired in the middle of the pack.
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| 4 | Pacers Rule
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Fri, Feb 15, 2008, 12:50
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Counter sent. Gave you some options. Not sure what kind of value people are putting on Arenas at this point. I guess time will tell.
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| 5 | Slowhand
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Fri, Feb 15, 2008, 19:51
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PR- Counter sent back at you ;)
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| 6 | Pacers Rule
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Fri, Feb 15, 2008, 22:41
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Hey, we might get this right yet....back at ya
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| 7 | Slowhand
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Sun, Feb 17, 2008, 14:01
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Hey PR trade offer sent...it's one you suggested in your email; I think it has the best for both of us.
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| 8 | Pacers Rule
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Sun, Feb 17, 2008, 19:29
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Sorry, I rethought that one. I have hopes that Odom is going to keep up his boost in stats since Gasol joined the Lakers. He's had a triple double for the first time this season and is averaging PG-like assists, I think 7 on the week.
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| 9 | Pacers Rule
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Sun, Feb 17, 2008, 19:30
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But sent you another possibility. If Arenas comes back strong, I lose. If he doesn't, you lose.
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| 10 | Slowhand
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Mon, Feb 18, 2008, 00:11
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Counter offer back at you... still hoping to get something done but it might not work.
Pretty soon we can start re-offering previous deals... LOL.
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| 11 | Pacers Rule
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Mon, Feb 18, 2008, 22:25
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Ha! This may rank as my longest trade negotiation ever. See what you think about this one. I think other than one or two obscure permutations, I may have exhausted most statistical combinations! Hope everyone is enjoying the semi-play-by-play, LOL.
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| 12 | Weykool
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Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 06:13
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Hope everyone is enjoying the semi-play-by-play, LOL.
Riveting.
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| 13 | Slowhand
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Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 21:17
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It's definately my longest and most complicated,and while Weykool's comment MAY have been tongue-in-cheek it has been pretty fun even if it doesn't work out. I know PR's players and thier stats almost as well as my own...
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| 14 | Pacers Rule
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Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 23:26
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Yeah, I'll second that. Anyone want to know how many FT's Josh Smith and Tim Duncan take per game?
Can you say "blockbuster"? I'll take door #11. Or something like that. I've lost count.
May no one allege this trade was entered into lightly....LOL.
Best wishes with Gilbert. May he average 2.5 steals and 2.7 threes.
I'll be unavailable for a few days. Team Indy Dream will be having a block party.
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| 15 | WonderB
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Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 07:42
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have to think this was weel thought out by both sides.
approved.
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| 16 | WonderB
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Sun, Feb 24, 2008, 18:47
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the gilbert saga continues.
returning on March 2nd is unrealistic, but was unable to pinpoint another potential return date.
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| 17 | Aggy's Miracles
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Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 10:09
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I just wanted to point out I am now in 6th place, not a bad move in the last 2-3 weeks, huh....
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| 18 | Pacers Rule
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Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 18:51
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That's pretty amazing, actually. Kudos!
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| 19 | Pacers Rule
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Tue, Feb 26, 2008, 18:34
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XPD - What a total Buzzkill about Yao. You have been putting together a very nice season.
Yao and his brittle bones
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| 20 | Pacers Rule
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Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 22:19
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XPD - nice pickup. I had him to take on waivers myself. I'm curious what waiver rank you were before you went to the bottom of the list. Do you remember?
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| 22 | xpdurmind
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Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 22:31
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9th...I was surprised with all the vultures in the league :) On the other hand, maybe thy know something I don't.
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| 23 | Pacers Rule
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Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 22:43
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Interesting. I was I think 6th when I decided to spend my waiver rank on Wally World after the trade to Cleveland. Had I not pulled the trigger on that one, I would have been in position to snag Diaw.
I think he's a stellar player to stash on your bench if you don't need stats right now because of his potential to get very hot for a streak. I can see why Aggy had to get a player to contribute now, but I certainly had absolutely nothing to lose taking him with my current waiver rank of 12, esp. for one of the guys taking a bench slot now on my team. Diener finally showed signs of life and I'll play him next game, but he'll probably go back to 7 points on 2 of 8 shooting with 4 assists and no defense. However, Fred Jones seems destined to waste away on my pine.
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| 24 | Slowhand
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Sun, Mar 02, 2008, 11:57
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Sounds like Arenas may not be back next week. Since I haven't slipped in the rankings I guess I can't say the trade was a total failure, but if Arenas doesn't get back soon there may not be enough time to benefit me much.
I still hope he can get back in time to boost my seedings for the play-offs,and just maybe be in shape enough by the time the play-offs start to help my team make a post season run.
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| 25 | Weykool
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Sun, Mar 02, 2008, 20:38
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What Playoffs?
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| 26 | WonderB
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Sun, Mar 02, 2008, 22:47
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you must be thinking of one of your other head to head leagues. although i would welcome the chance to pull out a victory if the last weeks were worth something extra.
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| 27 | Slowhand
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Sun, Mar 02, 2008, 23:22
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My bad...okay I mean I'll make a run at #1 in the last few weeks.
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| 28 | Pacers Rule
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Mon, Mar 03, 2008, 01:23
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Yeah, I was worried he was mostly talk and wanted to reduce risk, so I got out of him. Duncan has been very studly recently. Josh Smith is hot and cold. At least Odom and Jamison have continued to shine for you, especially Odom.
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| 29 | WonderB
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Mon, Mar 03, 2008, 16:18
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hey pacer
are you going to catch me in blocks. have you done that projection.
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| 30 | weykool
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Mon, Mar 03, 2008, 17:13
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Just a heads up.
I had trades out to a couple of teams and waited for over a week with no reply.
It seems the problem is Slam-a and Stomo have not logged in since the ASB.
We should not allow any trades with dead teams and Guru should be alerted to make sure they are not able to sign up in the future.
One of the things I like about Guru leagues is the participation requirement.
Very frustrating when managers abandon their teams.
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| 31 | Pacers Rule
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Wed, Mar 05, 2008, 01:11
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Wonderboy....I have not done any formal projections. I had hoped to move up to 11 points in blocks and possibly 12 points after the trade by the end of the season, but that was predicated on Bynum coming back to near pre-injury levels for maybe 10-15 games at the end of the season.
However, at this point, with Bynum being a little delayed in his return, and the Lakers likely easing him in, there's a good chance I will merely be treading water for the most part in blocks and maybe moving up one spot to 10- just in front of XPD - at least if at all possible :-)
Of course, it will help if I don't leave Josh Smith on the bench like I did tonight.
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| 32 | Pacers Rule
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Wed, Mar 05, 2008, 01:11
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Still desperately seeking to trade Rebounds for FT%
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| 33 | Pacers Rule
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Wed, Mar 05, 2008, 01:30
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Weykool, I had some talks earlier with Doug, but given his season's fortune it does seem he may have thrown in the towel and is perhaps just checking in out of curiosity at this point. Stomo has been well behind in games played all season and both are pretty far behind at this point. I don't think either have checked in much on the boards at all recently, even in the midst of some hotly contested trades. I would agree, neither manager has participated at the level of RIHC expectations this season. Seems Doug has been a good contributor in the past. I can't say I have as much history with Stomo. Seems he played AAA last year as well and was more active then.
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| 34 | Pacers Rule
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Wed, Mar 05, 2008, 06:04
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Curses. lost out on another waiver request.
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| 35 | deejay
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Wed, Mar 05, 2008, 11:49
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also posted this on yahoo...
After I activated Miller and dropped Boobie Gibson, I realized I had to drop another player.
Since Boobie was on my IS and I forgot about that...
So I also dropped Tyrus Thomas.
Now Im legal.
I can be a dumbass sometimes :)
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| 37 | WonderB
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Wed, Mar 05, 2008, 19:54
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i missed that one dj.
that trade just got posted right? i'll approve it tomorrow assuming....
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| 38 | Pacers Rule
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Wed, Mar 05, 2008, 20:30
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Tequila, this seems like a no-brainer for you. I'm not sure how this makes sense for you, Weykool.
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| 39 | xpdurmind
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Wed, Mar 05, 2008, 22:33
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PR, U have 1st place wrapped up, but I'm willing to take Duncan off your hands. What is ur asking price?
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| 40 | Pacers Rule
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Wed, Mar 05, 2008, 23:18
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I'll look.
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| 41 | WonderB
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Thu, Mar 06, 2008, 11:22
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sorry for the late reminder as it just occured to me to look but
TODAY IS THE TRADE DEADLINE>
i'm sure most of you know with the small frenzy of trade activity happening.
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| 42 | WonderB
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Thu, Mar 06, 2008, 11:24
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my camoflage and stealth must be working (top message). you guys still can't see me up there can you.
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| 43 | xpd
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Thu, Mar 06, 2008, 12:43
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PR, just saw ur offer in my email. Can't look at it closely from work . I`ll check it out from home later.
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| 44 | Pacers Rule
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Thu, Mar 06, 2008, 18:04
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#42 LOL
Tree- I'm glad you want to 'get in on the action' he he.
I am going out to dinner with my wife but I'll certainly entertain offers for Duncan.
Mostly I have been looking for 3's and FT% but points and 3's sound good as well. I don't want to really lose in blocks but of course I have rebounds and assists galore for the taking. Duncan is tops in boards or nearly so - so he's good for me to trade there. Plus, he's been on fire the past month or so....
Ok, my wife is HUNGRY so I'll check back later.
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| 45 | Pacers Rule
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Thu, Mar 06, 2008, 21:11
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XPD, Weykool, Tree....you guys all going to be checking in on offers through the evening?
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| 46 | Tree
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Thu, Mar 06, 2008, 21:17
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yes, i will be.
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| 47 | Pacers Rule
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Thu, Mar 06, 2008, 21:25
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If Z wasn't injured or was more definite on his timetable, I'd pull the trigger on that, Tree.
As opposed to being in a position to take a risk, I would see myself in more of a position to play it safe.
Probably my ideal trade gives up boards and assists for blocks and 3's. Looking things over.
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| 48 | Pacers Rule
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Thu, Mar 06, 2008, 23:34
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With 30 minutes to spare....
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| 49 | Pacers Rule
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Fri, Mar 07, 2008, 00:10
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Aggy & Urmas, check email/team page
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| 50 | xpdurmind
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Fri, Mar 07, 2008, 00:45
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Sorry PR, just got in...Your offer was interesting I was thinking along those lines with Calderon. I didn't see that one.
Your pending trade with Tree looks good for both.
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| 51 | Pacers Rule
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Fri, Mar 07, 2008, 01:29
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Just sent you one. Was that what I sent before?
I think we actually have until Midnight Pacific Time.
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| 52 | Tequila
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Fri, Mar 07, 2008, 06:26
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#38 Yes it's seems like a no brainer, except that weykool did know that artest was going to get injured :)
I'm not speaking for weykool but at this point of the season we are also making some guess about how much time the top players are spending in the last weeks of the season. I had some concern on artest too, it's a pity for me that he was not traded and i had to hold salmons for long. And for now i hope he won't be left out of the lineup from his coach.
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| 53 | xpdurmind
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Fri, Mar 07, 2008, 10:17
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51 PR, I should stick around during the trade deadline. you had emailed a feeler, but I didn't see it until after you traded Duncan.
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| 54 | Pacers Rule
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Fri, Mar 07, 2008, 11:38
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Yeah, that one would have probably been good for both of us as well. I did enjoy the little trading deadline rush, I have to admit.
I should have shopped Calderon around earlier looking for points and 3's.
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| 55 | Pacers Rule
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Fri, Mar 07, 2008, 11:40
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It's hard to know...esp. in the West...how much the studs will get to rest this year, given the likely last minute knock down drag out for home court advantage.
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| 56 | Aggy's Miracles
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Mon, Mar 10, 2008, 14:51
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Just wanted to include Pacers Rule note on the other board. I appreciate the note from him, I did take a risk and it paid off, in fact, I am pretty much guaranteed a return to AAA based on my current 5th place standing.
Pacers Rule
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Fri, Mar 07, 2008, 23:28 Aggy, It appears that it was I who apparently failed to really think the Hughes - Fisher trade through. Since our trade, Hughes has presumably been all you hoped he would be, with averages ranking him 75th over the past month. I think Fisher has hit his wall or something, and is not even in the top 150 for averages the past month. In fact, I'm not even playing him anymore. I would suspect that this trade is one reason you have climbed up the rankings.
While I leave myself open to Tree's "beating the dead horse" charge by pointing this out - I do think it is worth that risk just to further illustrate how misguided it was to attempt to block this trade in the first place - on the grounds that it was a one-sided rip-off in my favor, as well as a trade between the first place team and an owner in last - who was being questioned as to whether he had thrown in the towel on the season as a motivation for this one-sided trade. You have acquitted yourself well on both counts, Aggy.
For the past month, Hughes is averaging 18 points, 1.5 threes, 4 boards, 3 assists, and a steal. %'s aren't stellar, but they're respectable (43% and 73%). This is exactly the kind of upside I'm sure you traded for, and while Fisher seemed like the safe play at the time - he's been fading into oblivion. Kudos.
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| 57 | Tree
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Tue, Mar 11, 2008, 08:49
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I do think it is worth that risk just to further illustrate how misguided it was to attempt to block this trade in the first place
and if the trade had gone the other way, would i have said "SEE!! it should have been blocked!!"?
no, i wouldn't have.
I believed the way i did at the time, and i stand by that belief, but the trade. Just because something "works out", doesn't mean that it was the right thing at the time.
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| 58 | weykool
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Tue, Mar 11, 2008, 11:48
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The horse already died....decomposed....and is now fertilizer.
This isnt beating a dead horse more like digging in and slinging dirt.
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| 59 | xpdurmind
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Wed, Mar 12, 2008, 11:06
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Ok boys, I'm flying to Montreal tomorrow( any suggestions as "a must go" are welcome). I will try to keep an eye on things and make sure we're digging the right hole :)
WB, In case Butler comes back and I'm unable to have access ( or decided not to pay for it), can you please drop Dudley and set my line up with Butler in it if you do?
Thanks
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| 60 | WonderB
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Wed, Mar 12, 2008, 20:56
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can do
i'm watching butler as i have him on another team so i won't charge you extra this time.
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| 61 | WonderB
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Wed, Mar 12, 2008, 20:59
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just be advised that anything i set with your roster can only affect the next day. i can't make instantaneous changes like you can with your oun team.
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| 62 | xpdurmind
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Wed, Mar 12, 2008, 21:51
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Thanks again WB.
I'm thinking that Mo Will has missed over 10 days and 4 games already. He'll take Butlers IS in case Butler decides to play.
No need to drop anyone for now.
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| 63 | WonderB
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Fri, Mar 14, 2008, 16:23
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hmmm.
xpd has mo williams in play when he wanted him on the DL. he should stay on the bench. are you on line xpd.
if mo acctually plays i'll dump dudly for him.
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| 64 | weykool
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Fri, Mar 14, 2008, 17:10
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I dont think he can put him in the lineup unless he drops someone.
This is supposed to work like the IR does in baseball.
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| 65 | Pacers Rule
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Fri, Mar 14, 2008, 20:20
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Yeah, I'd say move him to IS.
That was what XPD said he was doing.
He must have just forgotten.
If he plays, you would need to void his stats I would think. If he's truly day to day then he shouldn't qualify for IS anyway.
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| 66 | WonderB
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Fri, Mar 14, 2008, 20:29
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reports say mo is likely to play tomorrow. i think dropping dudly is what xpd would want done.
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| 67 | Pacers Rule
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Fri, Mar 14, 2008, 22:01
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That's why you get paid the big bucks.
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| 68 | WonderB
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Sat, Mar 15, 2008, 08:19
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i dropped dudley for xpd so that mo could play today, which it sounds like he will. my effects are a day late but dudley doesn't play today so there is no problems with stats editing.
xpd didn't mention when he was coming back did he? was it just a weekend trip? i'm looking at monday with butler on his bench.
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| 69 | Pacers Rule
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Mon, Mar 17, 2008, 00:21
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Big Z made it back, Tree. Judging from his line tonight, you'll want to get him into your lineup ASAP. Not sure if you have another IL eligible player or not.
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| 70 | Tree
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Mon, Mar 17, 2008, 07:19
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thanks - i've been out of town all weekend.
any updates on Krstic, Landry, or Thornton, or are none of them IL-eligible at the moment?
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| 71 | xpdurmind
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Wed, Mar 19, 2008, 09:17
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Got back in late yesterday to see that I wasn't able to put Mo Will in my line up. He had a nice stat line.
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| 72 | Pacers Rule
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Wed, Mar 19, 2008, 22:35
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I had Radmonovic and Williams on my bench yesterday and they went off for 21 points each and combined 9 threes. I put Fisher in instead and he went off for 8 points and 0 threes.
Seems to be the way it goes.
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| 73 | xpdurmind
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Wed, Mar 19, 2008, 23:36
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PR, I had my line up set until today. dropping dudley seems to have disrupted the set.
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| 74 | TB
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Thu, Mar 20, 2008, 05:50
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butt
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| 75 | Pacers Rule
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Thu, Mar 20, 2008, 22:24
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XPD- You mean you thought you had preset your line-up through Tuesday, but when Dudley was dropped from your team by the commish....you think that 'reset' your lineups after that?
Weird...and seems unlikely. My experience has been, like when a trade goes through, for example, that only the player that is no longer on your team is affected - he's just a 'hole' in your roster and there is no player slotted in where he was.
The new player on your team is on the bench. I know it's possible with a commish initiated change that things are differently affected.
I guess in this particular situation, it might be consolation that if you had been considering Mo Will as an IS eligible player, then he was not allowed to be in a starting spot, period. So that was a rule violation that kind of forced WonderB's hand. I thought he should fix your situation by putting Mo Will on the bench where he belonged, but he obviously felt it was less injurious to your team to drop the big Dud than to put Mo Will back on the bench.
Not that it will affect the outcome much at this point, but when did we decide as a league that missing X number of games while officially day to day made a player eligible for IS? I must have missed a memo. Folks seem to be citing the # of games missed as rationale for IS eligibility without posting links to document that the player is out beyond day to day status.
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| 76 | deejay
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Fri, Mar 21, 2008, 17:19
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Does Wilcox qualify for IL?
Chris Wilcox's right pinkie injury, which originally occurred in January, will keep him in street clothes on Friday and could cause him to shut it down for the rest of the season.
He missed four games in January when he initially suffered the injury and is expected to talk with his agent before receiving a second medical opinion. It makes little sense for him to risk further damage to the digit, and we're guessing we've probably seen the last of him this season. If that's the case, Johan Petro and Nick Collison will see a boost in value.
Source: Seattle Times
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| 77 | weykool
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Fri, Mar 21, 2008, 17:42
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With all the If's and could....he sounds day to day to me.
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| 78 | Pacers Rule
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Fri, Mar 21, 2008, 17:54
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definitely not yet, unless you've got something else more definitive.
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| 79 | deejay
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Fri, Mar 21, 2008, 21:50
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ok
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| 80 | WonderB
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Sun, Mar 23, 2008, 14:51
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i have wilcox on anouther team and while overall he was a success for a last round pick (8 teams) he has been very frustrating lately. it always sounds like he might play. reports are a bit more faverable today.
since you can't put him in your line up "in the hopes" while you have him on the IS i'm not sure you really want him there anyway.
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| 81 | deejay
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Sun, Mar 23, 2008, 15:54
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oh Dirk :(
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| 82 | WonderB
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Mon, Mar 24, 2008, 16:28
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oops spoke too soon on wilcox
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| 83 | deejay
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Mon, Mar 24, 2008, 16:53
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Ill wait another few days and then I think he will go to the IS, doesnt sound too good right now.
Dirk is already there.
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| 84 | deejay
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Tue, Mar 25, 2008, 09:36
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If Wilcox sits the next, then he goes to IL.
I really think that is okay.
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| 85 | Pacers Rule
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Tue, Mar 25, 2008, 23:31
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IS comment/question:
Chris Kaman has now missed 9 straight games but is still considered day to day. My understanding is he is therefore not IS eligible under our initial agreed upon criteria.
I thought we then had a revision to that and managers were to post on the official RIHC IS eligibility thread players they were claiming to be eligible for IS, along with their links to documentation. As I understood it, as Guru laid it out, if managers disagreed, they were to post on there that they did, and then the commissioners would confer and render a binding decision.
Lately it is feeling more like a free for all on IS eligibility, with "so and so has missed x number of games" being the justification provided, when being out for a definite minimum period - and more than day to day - was the criteria.
Just an observation. It doesn't really affect me - but I would think managers in dogfights in the extremely close races we are having for several spots would be interested in knowing that no one was gaining an unfair advantage by stretching the rules on that.
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| 86 | deejay
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Wed, Mar 26, 2008, 13:33
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I would have no problem with Kaman's owner putting him on IS. 9 games is not day to day for me, though he officialy is listed as day to day as PR states.
Maybe we should have a day to day rule...
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| 87 | weykool
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Wed, Mar 26, 2008, 13:43
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Personally this is almost a non-issue.
Who is on the waiver wire that will make the difference?
I have players who are not injured that I am unable to play because they are using games that I want to save for my decent players.
I could drop my scrubs for an uber-scrub but why?
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| 88 | deejay
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Wed, Mar 26, 2008, 15:27
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Well for me it does matter, I have my 2PF's sitting, every team is different.
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| 89 | Pacers Rule
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Wed, Mar 26, 2008, 23:52
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Weykool- most of the FA's I have picked up have contributed. There are players going down all the time which suddenly makes a previously irrelevant player playable. You're right, if you're well ahead on games played at this point in the season, the wire becomes less significant (for you). If you are hurting for some games or particular stats, however, having an extra player on your bench to potentially contribute if situations play out as you hope they will can be a decided advantage, imo.
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| 90 | Weykool
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Thu, Mar 27, 2008, 02:19
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The point is DJ has Beno on the bench.
If he really needs a PF he can always drop him.
Like I said.....almost irrelevant.
Those guys you are picking up will perform one night and then burn a game with little or no stats the next game.
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| 91 | deejay
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Thu, Mar 27, 2008, 07:29
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Beno has been in my line up all the time, but hes injured too now.
He has been good for me, so I have no intention of dropping him.
He has nothing do with it.
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| 92 | deejay
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Thu, Mar 27, 2008, 07:30
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to do, that should say.
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| 93 | WonderB
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Thu, Mar 27, 2008, 19:42
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just checking everyones roster everyone is in complyance with the rules. all IS's are quite obvious just glancing at the teams. good.
most of the 'not sure of' day to day' type IS moves have been after the manager has been quite patient and waited more than a week or 7-8-9 games. i have not noticed any real infractions (if it is only a little infringing) beyond that-- that have not been corrected.
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| 94 | WonderB
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Thu, Mar 27, 2008, 21:55
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there is definite news now. worth dumping outright aparently.
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| 95 | deejay
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Fri, Mar 28, 2008, 08:04
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Indeed.
Got me Nene instead.
You never know. :)
I know he cant hit a FT...
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| 96 | Pacers Rule
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Fri, Mar 28, 2008, 21:04
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Hey, they said Bynum would not come back before the playoffs, and two days later they said he'd play in 2 weeks. Of course, I'm still waiting....
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| 97 | Tree
ID: 2033024
Wed, Apr 02, 2008, 06:31
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man...
definitely exciting stuff as we all jockey for positions 2 through 7 in this league. i don't recollect seeing anything like this, with so many teams packed so tight at this late point in the season...
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| 98 | Pacers Rule
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Wed, Apr 02, 2008, 21:54
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Seems we've had a three way tie for 2nd for like 3 days in a row.
Arenas finally played.
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| 99 | xpdurmind
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Wed, Apr 02, 2008, 23:02
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If there is a 3 way tie for 2nd, what would the tie breaker be?
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| 100 | Pacers Rule
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Thu, Apr 03, 2008, 00:45
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I think everyone splits the prize money equally ;-)
Plus, you know you're going to win it outright.
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| 101 | WonderB
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Thu, Apr 03, 2008, 20:27
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beats me.
? if it acctually happened we would have to ask.
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| 102 | xpdurmind
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Thu, Apr 03, 2008, 21:59
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We might have to ask Guru, because a tie for 2nd is a possibility. Who would move up to the bigs?
PR, I want you to have my cut of the prize money. You're whipping us pretty good.
I humbly bow upon your greatness
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| 103 | WonderB
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Thu, Apr 03, 2008, 22:18
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oh brother.
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| 104 | Pacers Rule
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Fri, Apr 04, 2008, 15:06
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XP, This is the best I've done against such quality competition. 3 years ago I won an AA QL with like an 82, but that was AA.
As much as I have tried, I can't seem to make the gains in FT% that would net several points in a hurry. Unfortunately, with Kaman and Bynum both out, it looks like I won't make any more ground in blocks either. I'm probably about maxed out in terms of 3's as well, so I'm pretty well capped out.
I say you'll be the clear #2 b/c you are like there now and you still have 20 more games to play than Tequila and Tree. I bet you can inch ahead with 20 games, don't you think?
WonderB, you have got to beat Doug.
Can anyone imagine the season that Stomo might have had with his draft, had he actually followed his team?
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| 105 | xpdurmind
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Fri, Apr 04, 2008, 22:19
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PR, Congrats on a great well played season. As far as 2nd, it is not over until the season is over. Too close right now.
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| 106 | Pacers Rule
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Sat, Apr 05, 2008, 02:36
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#90, surprisingly, I beg to differ. Chris Quinn, Ryan Gomes, even Larry "he'll never amount to anything" Hughes have played quite well for me from the FA pool. In fact, I'm pretty sure I took Anthony Carter as well as Jordan Farmar from the FA pool as well. Carter turned into Battier and Farmar turned into Arenas who allowed me to turn Jamison and Odom into Duncan and Josh Smith, with Duncan eventually turning into Stoudamire. All from a FA pickup.
Your argument that the hot pickups usually only play a few games for you that way and then fizzle out also shows a lack of understanding. You can benefit from those few games. You read the tea leaves and don't play them when their fire has burned out. Instead, you thank them for their services, and get the next former scrub turned stud from the FA pool and then you ride that wave as long as you can. Working the wire is how fantasy seasons are won and lost, if your draft was not particularly prophetic or disastrous. Of course, timing trades plays a role if you are active there. Many times when you pick up a FA, you don't know if it will pan out. If by fudging on the IS rules you can roll the dice on two FA's instead of one, that is a clear advantage in this game. If you don't understand that, well, there's probably nothing I can do to explain it to you.
For me the bottom line is less about how much someone is benefiting from violating the agreements we've made, but more about the principal of it. Again, it does not affect my standing at this point in the season, but the fact that it could affect who advances to RIHC and who stays here, given how close teams are 2-7, it seems to dictate that the rules would be followed.
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| 107 | Pacers Rule
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Fri, Apr 11, 2008, 23:45
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Have teams 1-3 advanced to the main league in past years? XPD and Tequila, can you hold on? As of last night, DJ is sitting at #4 and primed for a run with 10 more games left to play than XP and 22 more to play than Tequila. Tree, at #5, with the most games played of anyone (+3 on Tequila) and a majority of your positions already at max games played, your rank may be maxed as well. Weykool at #6, you may still have a shot to crack the top 3 with the most games left to play of anyone in the top half of the league. I'm going to guess XPD finishes #2 and DJ finishes #3, with Weykool in the four spot.
Live update:
Weykool has already sneaked into the 5 spot with Tree dropping in Assists, Points, and FT% tonight. Rough night! XPD has actually moved up by passing Tree in Points to solidify his hold on second. DJ lost a point on Tequila who is holding steady at #3 for the moment.
Coming down to the wire.....
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| 108 | deejay
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Sat, Apr 12, 2008, 07:25
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Mike Miller's surprise DNP didnt help :(
To the bench with him. :)
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| 109 | xpd
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Sun, Apr 13, 2008, 03:09
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It's coming down to the wire and I'm currently in Chicago till Wed. I'm unable to have access to a lot of functionability of the site with my smart phone. Hopefully my line up holds.
GL to all
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| 110 | Tree
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Sun, Apr 13, 2008, 15:14
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i just want to say that the first half of the season seemed to plod along to me. i wasn't having much fun, and i felt like i was going through the motions.
i hate when people abandon their teams, even if they're clearly going to finish in last place, so i refused to do that, but really, was just plugging in players every day, and not paying as much attention as i should have.
them somehow, after the all-star break, this league got exciting. trades, team movement, and things really started going. i knew that my lack of games remaining (a result of my "going through the motions") would come back to haunt me, but it was fun riding in second or third place for awhile.
i wish i had cared early on, but alas, i did not. still, this is a lesson learned that those games played are SO important.
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| 111 | Pacers Rule
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Sun, Apr 13, 2008, 22:36
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On the plus side, going through the motions as you put it to put players into your lineup with the result being too many games played was a far better approach than that taken by Stomo & Doug who instead wound up with far too few games played so that even if they did find they had more time available later in the season or had more interest - the damage was done and their teams were so far gone that there was no way to make up the games played.
Still, I find it remarkable that Stomo's dormant team will beat so many 'active' teams on the apparent strength of his draft alone. Again, if only he had invested in his team throughout the year - he would most likely be challenging for the lead if not outright owning it come season's end.
Has anyone spoken with Stomo? Seems he was pretty active around draft time but I don't remember his last board entry.
Seems Doug had this same problem last year. Not so much with abandoning his team, but with only playing his strongest players early, and then getting behind in games played. You'd think a fellow would learn from that, but apparently Doug had more pressing matters to attend to.
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| 112 | Pacers Rule
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Sun, Apr 13, 2008, 22:42
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BTW- XP is continuing to hold second and DJ has now just overtaken Tequila - who has also dipped just below Weykool who has clawed his way into fourth. It is remarkable - the 1/2 point differences in scores with a few days left to play in the season. I think positions 2 through 5 are within 2 points of each other as of tonight.
One good thing about this season is that the West is so competitive that studs are not resting these last couple of weeks, because every game is counting.
I wonder if it would make some sense to have our fantasy season end 2 weeks before the real season ends and reduce the games played per position accordingly. That would reduce the number of late hot FA's and strong teams hurt by their stars being rested the last couple weeks. Obviously that would be up to Guru.
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| 113 | Pacers Rule
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Sun, Apr 13, 2008, 23:12
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Wow - in the short time since I last checked live action- DJ has now shot up to second, with XP dropping to #3, Tequila climbing back to #4, and Weykool slipping back to #5.
I'm assuming not everyone purchased stat-tracker and might have some interest in the live standings before they update in the morning.
Wow, within minutes, now XP and DJ are tied for #2 at 60 points and Tequila and Weykool are tied for #4 at 58 points.
Very intense. XP and Weykool are tied for the top FT%, and there are several other cats where the top managers are head to head down the stretch.
It's a good payoff for a lot of time invested. Hopefully its been fun and worth it.
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| 114 | WonderB
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Wed, Apr 16, 2008, 23:08
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well i sure didn't need all those blocks to stay hi in that cat. i thought i gave most of them away with dalembert. i guess the dynamic of the league changed as the teams immediatly below me traded away a block or two as well meaning i didn't need as much. not that i could have pulled much out of this mess but i could have picked up some more asst and steals in another trade.
the day after the draft i felt ok, the next day 7th rnd foye went down, 8 games later 1st rnd gilbert's out and it's thanks for coming out.
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| 115 | Pacers Rule
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Thu, Apr 17, 2008, 01:20
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You probably didn't see Kaman and Bynum both going down for extended periods. I didn't 'try' to peter out in blocks. When I got Josh Smith and Duncan, I thought I was taking the express train to the top in blocks. It turned out I mostly stayed where I was after losing two centers.
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| 116 | deejay
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Thu, Apr 17, 2008, 07:29
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Thanks for the great season guys.
Tied #3 it is.
Thanks to Urmas, who passed me with one lousy 3pter on the last day. Or it wouldnt have been a tie.
Anyways cant say Im not cool with my ranking.
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| 117 | Pacers Rule
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Thu, Apr 17, 2008, 17:24
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Nice strong finish, DJ.
It was amazing how tight things were and cats were decided by a few tallies in several instances.
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| 118 | xpdurmind
ID: 2410323020
Thu, Apr 17, 2008, 20:53
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DJ & weykool , Great job down the stretch. Very close at the end from what I can tell from PR's posts. Since last friday, I trusted my team to my 18 year old nephew who did a decent job even though I ended up a few games played short. Can't really complain on finishing 2nd with all the injuries.
PR, Congrats again on a great season. I will not give u a head start next year :)
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| 119 | Pacers Rule
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Thu, Apr 17, 2008, 23:24
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Thanks, XP. Congrats to you as well on a well-played and sportsman-like season. We didn't always agree on every ruling/situation, but there was enough mutual respect there to work through any differences and in some cases agree to disagree, while keeping the tone positive overall.
You were the clear #2 and it showed in the final standings with you opening up some space between yourself and DJ and Weykool. I think your nephew did alright for you, as you had a few surprise DNP's if I remember right which is probably why you ended up a few games short of max. Looks like only our fearless leader and I were able to squeeze every drop out of the fantasy turnip for GP.
In retrospect, I think I learned a little bit about GP this year. I decided at season's start to always play every player I could expect reasonable production from - unless they were killing me in like FT% or FG% - throughout the season. That resulted in me getting up to maybe 20 or 30 games (total) over the projected max during the season. I was starting to get a little nervous about having to throw away games played by my best players toward the end of the season, esp. with me really pushing the GP at the C position, since I was only 3 deep there at most, most of the way. What I found out was that as long as the GP were quality GP, those extra GP (coming from active waiver wire work mostly) were insurance against injury. I was REALLY glad to be ahead in GP at C when both Kaman and Bynum were out and I didn't have to go fully into fire sale mode to find another center via trade. I was able to measure the relative quality of my GP with the per game standings I generated and you posted for all along the way, which let me know I wasn't overdoing it with GP as some may have done. It was easy to differentiate those ranked atop the leaderboard but way up in GP who then were mid-pack to low-pack on a per game basis. Since the opposite pattern was true for me, I felt good about my balance of pushing GP without sacrificing quality too much.
Down the stretch then, it was much easier to absorb lost games due to injury, esp. with multi-position eligible players to switch around to cover the voids left at certain positions, and also to be more selective on who was playing games - allowing me for example to bench Fisher and Calderon when their production dipped late in the season, and still stay above water so to speak with GP. In the final week, I still needed to pull a couple players off the FA list to play to get my full my GP (Maxiell, for example), but I think I probably lost more games late to injury than I anticipated.
For me, running a good 20 to 30 games over projected maxes while keeping an eye on per game stats was a good balance I will probably try to strive for in the future.
I'm curious if others had similar experiences or agree or disagree with the above approach as it applied to their season/team this year.
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| 120 | Pacers Rule
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Thu, Apr 17, 2008, 23:52
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WonderB, thanks especially to you as well who handled a more difficult than usual (in my limited experience) commish job with tact and grace. Despite some early bickering and some hotly debated differing philosophies of the game and trades within the game, overall I think it was a good year and good experience in large part due to your guidance. In addition to putting up with the rest of us, despite the struggles of your team, you stuck with it to the end and gave us all the framework for a great competitive season. It really did come down to the wire for several teams who swapped positions in the final days, and I hope others enjoyed the challenge and banter as much or more than I did.
Looking back, I probably won the biggest windbag award for longest board postings. That is probably because I find the exchange between collegial managers to be one of the most satisfying aspects of the game. Crunching numbers and projecting trends has its own level of intrigue - but putting something out there and getting feedback on it from skilled, thoughtful managers is an end in itself.
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| 121 | deejay
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Fri, Apr 18, 2008, 08:23
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Thanks PR.
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