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Subject: recruit and draft AAA#2 2008-9

Posted by: WonderB - Sustainer [241053812] Sat, Sep 27, 2008, 12:13

all AAA players have the opportunity to pick between AAA#1 under diligad/mike v or AAA#2 under myself.
sign your name here for AAA#2.
i will make the order you sign up in be the initial order before randomization. if i pick up the last few teams left i will set their order at the end with their qualifying leagues sign in date.

stomodotcom
Sustainer
ID: 241053812
Sat, Sep 27, 2008, 16:55

WonderB on behalf of stomodotcom

Aggy
ID: 50892722
Sat, Sep 27, 2008, 23:13

Thanks, I'd like to be in AAA #2.

wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Sun, Sep 28, 2008, 00:13

I am in.

Goldcoach
ID: 439131016
Sun, Sep 28, 2008, 09:35

Thanks for Commissing WonderB;
Count me in.

wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Sun, Sep 28, 2008, 10:49

Email <----- sorry

youngroman
Donor
ID: 02934823
Sun, Sep 28, 2008, 11:37

I'm in.

Jason
ID: 28182214
Sun, Sep 28, 2008, 15:49

Hi, I'd like to be in AAA #2.

Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Sun, Sep 28, 2008, 16:50

I'm in

WonderB
Sustainer
ID: 241053812
Sun, Sep 28, 2008, 22:05

AAA#2
WonderB (commish)
Stomodotcom
Aggy
wiggs
Goldcoach
youngroman
Jason
Da Bomb

if you choose AAA#2 sign in here.
Please Post Email Again Here just to make life a little easyer for me.

WonderB
ID: 3289227
Mon, Sep 29, 2008, 10:10

i'll take the rest of the teams left.
i'll post the pre randonization order.
i'll post the randomization process and ask for two sets of random numbers.
i'll send an email out to everyone tonight after work.
pretty much in that order.
it sounds like the main RIHC draft will start around the 15th october. we will shoot for 13th-14th. we will get a draft order set soon which should leave you all a solid week to aganize over your first picks. ;}

WonderB
Sustainer
ID: 241053812
Mon, Sep 29, 2008, 13:14

AAA#2
WonderB (commish)
Stomodotcom
Aggy
wiggs
Goldcoach
youngroman
Jason
Da Bomb
Ref
Mark L
Threespleens
Philsphan

your league order before random #s applied.

WonderB
Sustainer
ID: 241053812
Mon, Sep 29, 2008, 13:25

2 random sets of #s will be applied as such:
set 1: 2 4 1 3
set 2: 4 2 3 1
teams a b c d
a 2
b 4
c 1
d 3
second order applied
c 4
a 2
d 3
b 1
final draft choice position
b
a
d
c

i'll take the first two random sequences from 1 to 12 emailed to the linked address. you can get the sequences made here

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Sep 29, 2008, 14:47

Ah, I was so busy with fotball and basebal this weekend that I missed these threads. Guess I'm in this league! ;)

WonderB
ID: 3289227
Mon, Sep 29, 2008, 16:44

set 1 emailed at 1:49pm 3 2 7 5 1 9 10 12 4 6 11 8
set 2 emailed at 4:00pm 12 8 10 9 6 11 2 5 4 7 1 3
no others were emailed.
working some excel magic we get this as your draft choice order. i worked it twice so i'm pretty sure it's right but feel free to check my work goldcoach. threespleens you can choose your spot now.

Threespleens
Aggy
Da Bomb
youngroman
Philsphan
wiggs
Jason
Stomodotcom
Ref
WonderB
Mark L
Goldcoach

WonderB
ID: 3289227
Mon, Sep 29, 2008, 17:10

email sent to everyone.
threeslpeens and ref
i had to find you email addresses in the registry. let me know if you didn't get them.

i will get kefenatid and yahoo up maybe later tonight and when kefenatid is paid for and ready i will send all login info.

Goldcoach
ID: 439131016
Mon, Sep 29, 2008, 18:19

Double-checked and Confirmed!

I get to pick whatever position is left. Takes the strategy out of if for me again this year.

threespleens
ID: 15822257
Mon, Sep 29, 2008, 20:05

1. Threespleens

Aggy
Da Bomb
youngroman
Philsphan
wiggs
Jason
Stomodotcom
Ref
WonderB
Mark L
Goldcoach

Aggy
ID: 50892722
Mon, Sep 29, 2008, 23:16

I'll take the 2nd pick. Thanks.

Philsphan
Donor
ID: 301442416
Mon, Sep 29, 2008, 23:48

I'm in. I should be ready by the 15th.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Sep 30, 2008, 01:20

I didn't get it.

Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Tue, Sep 30, 2008, 14:16

1. Threespleens
2. Aggy
3. Da Bomb
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.

youngroman
Philsphan
wiggs
Jason
Stomodotcom
Ref
WonderB
Mark L
Goldcoach

youngroman
Donor
ID: 02934823
Tue, Sep 30, 2008, 15:16

1. Threespleens
2. Aggy
3. Da Bomb
4.
5.
6. youngroman
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.

Philsphan
wiggs
Jason
Stomodotcom
Ref
WonderB
Mark L
Goldcoach

WonderB
Sustainer
ID: 241053812
Tue, Sep 30, 2008, 17:56

1. Threespleens
2. Aggy
3. Da Bomb
4.
5.
6. youngroman
7. Philsphan
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.

wiggs
Jason
Stomodotcom
Ref
WonderB
Mark L
Goldcoach

picked for philsphan based on a short list given.

wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Tue, Sep 30, 2008, 23:31

1. Threespleens
2. Aggy
3. Da Bomb
4. Wiggs
5.
6. youngroman
7. Philsphan
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.

Jason
Stomodotcom
Ref
WonderB
Mark L
Goldcoach

Jason
ID: 58746253
Wed, Oct 01, 2008, 04:00

1. Threespleens
2. Aggy
3. Da Bomb
4. Wiggs
5. Jason
6. youngroman
7. Philsphan
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.

Stomodotcom
Ref
WonderB
Mark L
Goldcoach

WonderB
ID: 3289227
Wed, Oct 01, 2008, 08:04

1. Threespleens
2. Aggy
3. Da Bomb
4. Wiggs
5. Jason
6. youngroman
7. Philsphan
8. Stomodotcom
9.
10.
11.
12.

Ref
WonderB
Mark L
Goldcoach

stomo emailed

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Oct 01, 2008, 11:40

1. Threespleens
2. Aggy
3. Da Bomb
4. Wiggs
5. Jason
6. youngroman
7. Philsphan
8. Stomodotcom
9. Ref
10.
11.
12.

WonderB
ID: 3289227
Wed, Oct 01, 2008, 11:43

kafenatid.net on the clock details emailed out. please log in there before the evening (eastern standard time) of the 13th when the "go" button will be pressed. i'll wait for a check in from everyone and then the 8 hour clock will start.

WonderB
ID: 3289227
Wed, Oct 01, 2008, 12:31

1. Threespleens
2. Aggy
3. Da Bomb
4. Wiggs
5. Jason
6. youngroman
7. Philsphan
8. Stomodotcom
9. Ref
10.
11.
12. WonderB

Mark L
Goldcoach

yahoo info emailed.
let me know if you didn't get something.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Oct 01, 2008, 13:06

It has aa1 as league name.

WonderB
ID: 3289227
Wed, Oct 01, 2008, 13:24

oh crap right
i made that league when i thought i was commishing aa.
making a new one now.

WonderB
ID: 3289227
Wed, Oct 01, 2008, 13:29

new invite sent out.

Mark L
ID: 25155512
Wed, Oct 01, 2008, 14:23

1. Threespleens
2. Aggy
3. Da Bomb
4. Wiggs
5. Jason
6. youngroman
7. Philsphan
8. Stomodotcom
9. Ref
10.
11. Mark L
12. WonderB

WonderB
ID: 3289227
Wed, Oct 01, 2008, 14:40

draft order.
1. Threespleens
2. Aggy
3. Da Bomb
4. Wiggs
5. Jason
6. youngroman
7. Philsphan
8. Stomodotcom
9. Ref
10. Goldcoach
11. Mark L
12. WonderB

i took the liberty of picking for goldcoach without consulting him. pretty sure he'd want it this way though.

WonderB
ID: 3289227
Wed, Oct 01, 2008, 14:43

nothing to do for a week but talk smack now.

smack
smack
smack

Goldcoach
ID: 893426
Wed, Oct 01, 2008, 14:51

You must of been reading my mind WonderB

WonderB
Sustainer
ID: 241053812
Mon, Oct 06, 2008, 13:26

is everyone making their list and checking it twice.
there is still two who haven't signed in to kafenatid. you know who you are.

my plan is to open the draft on the morning of the 13th, monday EST. i will email a request to check-in. once i hear from everyone or they put a draft pick in i will start the clock hopefully that night. so it should get serious the morning of the 14th. for those of you that do the sleeping thing or just don't have young kids, the clock stops to sleep, i set it for 11pm to 7am, an 8 hour break. again EST. this works well for american time zones.
Do we have any european or asian contestants. in the past they were willing to work around it and the queue system works well. we can talk if there are problems.

in the past we have tried to start our minor league drafts ahead of the main event RIHC for fear of them influencing our picks. the thought being that they are soooo much better than us that we will copy them. ;} whether the statment or sentiment is true i'd argue but if there are no serious objections i'll continue the policy.
that and i just wanna get draftin. tee hee, like a kid waitin for christmas.

youngroman
Donor
ID: 02934823
Mon, Oct 06, 2008, 15:03

I am from Austria (ET+6). this was no real problem in the past.
since the ALCS, NLCS and WS are taking place during our draft I guess I will be up during some of these nights and if not I will leave a queue. you just need to make sure to not pick any of the players in my queue.

WonderB
Sustainer
ID: 241053812
Mon, Oct 06, 2008, 18:25

????

oh i see.
i can't see your queue's untill it is your turn to actually pick. you can set your queue to only show your top player, no one else. i believe this is default. there is an option to let your designated picker see your whole list if you want him to free pick for you based on some instructions but this is not how i will leave my queue for others nor do i expect you will either. it's all the same viewing rules for me, the commishener, i don't get any inside dope on what anyone is doing.
is this what your last statment was about youngroman?

during the draft leaving a queue will be encouraged. remember to make your queue available to your designated pickers as well.

is there anyone who has not used kafenatid's on the clock. there shouldn't be right. i don't need to go over all the details of how it works.? queueing and picking.
i will say to double check your picks are correct and on the right team, there are a lot of "x. williams" out there.

WonderB
Sustainer
ID: 241053812
Mon, Oct 06, 2008, 18:29

or was 43 a joke. now i read it again maybe. you know i'm going to be all over that Q right. ha ha......ha.....ha....

Jason
ID: 58746253
Tue, Oct 07, 2008, 09:54

Hi!

I am from Hungary. I am fifth in the pick order, that is a fortunate case, because it is directly before youngroman, so we will not stop the drafting process for a long time.

I don't like leaving a queue, because sometimes it is necessary to change the draft strategy (eg: when start the season of center hunting:).

The drafting time in Hungary is between 2pm and 6am. It is not absolutely good for me, tipically I go to bed at midnight here(at 5pm EST). I would like to ask all managers to help me having a possibility of choosing before 5pm EST. In this case the process can continue until 11pm (during the night here). If I am in queue after 5pm, we will loose six hours..

threespleens
Leader
ID: 00795541
Tue, Oct 07, 2008, 10:10

i'm in taiwan but have used kafenatid in the past without holding up drafts. either i stay up a bit late to pick or pack in the night with queue made. it helps i make 2 picks together because then it's a long break and i can anticipate when it'll be my turn.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Oct 07, 2008, 22:38

I'd prefer to start the draft as late as possible. So much stuff happens in preseason that can really screw up your draft. Injuries. Guys getting cut or demoted, etc. Much better than having to wait at the end. And if by some odd reason our draft gets bogged down, it's much ebtter to speed it up at the end where those guys are typically the first to be thrown back anyhow.

WonderB
Sustainer
ID: 241053812
Wed, Oct 08, 2008, 18:42

last year this draft took just short of ten days. the clock won't start untill the 14th given that we should finish by the 24th. the league starts on the 28th and i want to have the draft results in at least a day ahead of time to give you all a chance to set your rosters. 3 days grace is a comfortable buffer for me and if i get the results in promptly you have ampl time to set rosters. 3 days is not going to change the top picks in my opinion. injuries are an equal risk to everyone. by the time we get to the bottom picks most of the preseason is already over.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Oct 09, 2008, 16:33

10 days!!!! My God I hope not. It should be easily accomplished in no longer than 7 days IMM. The end caps have two picks in a row. I realize we have some Europeans, etc. who are on a huge time zone difference, but still it shouldn't take 10 days.

Injuries are a risk to everyone, indeed. But the person or two who would pick a guy in the first round the day he goes down would have really appreciated waiting? I mean you gotta start sometime, but I'd rather start as late as possible then zip through things. Others may not share my feelings though and that's fine. I'll do whatever the league wants. Just wanted to put in my two cents in case others felt the same.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Oct 09, 2008, 16:42

We have 15 players or so to draft right? Man we could even get it done in 5 days. With just 12 players...10 days...ugh that would be gut-wrenching to wait on. For example, G20 has 20 managers. 6 rounds 120 picks. But all 20 diff managers and none in a row. If you count the end caps as one then you have 10 managers to go 15 rounds. I sitll think 7 days max, but it is what it is. Again, it's no biggie, jsu tike to keep the draft moving with as much info as possible.

WonderB
ID: 3289227
Thu, Oct 09, 2008, 17:20

all true in a perfect world. but..
the RIHC took 8 days last year and expects 8 days this year.
my AAA took 9 3/4 days last year.
i'd rather everyone gets a good chance to make their pick hence the 8 hour clock, which is standard across the RIHC. i work out of a company truck that is online but i imagine others are not so lucky. construction sites rarely have internet access, just an example. even though i have mobile access one of my jobs can easily take me 4 hours in which i don't have a chance to check things. so shortening the clock, while it may become nessacary, isn't a preferable option IMO.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Oct 09, 2008, 21:22

8 hours? Wow! OK, whatever. I hope people can use queues though.

WonderB
Sustainer
ID: 241053812
Sun, Oct 12, 2008, 12:11

check-in now for the clock start tuesday 14th am.

threespleens
Leader
ID: 00795541
Sun, Oct 12, 2008, 20:16

ready to go. will pick before clock starts if it's open.

Goldcoach
ID: 439131016
Sun, Oct 12, 2008, 21:22

I'm here.

Philsphan
ID: 309828
Sun, Oct 12, 2008, 23:04

I'm here. I can be a DP if anyone needs one. I should be near a PC most of the next couple of weeks.

threespleens
Leader
ID: 00795541
Mon, Oct 13, 2008, 10:19

and we're off...

Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Mon, Oct 13, 2008, 16:51

Been away for the past couple days. Ready to roll now.

WonderB
Sustainer
ID: 241053812
Mon, Oct 13, 2008, 23:18

everyone is checked in and the clock will start tomorrow with the end of the sleep break.

good luck everyone.

WonderB
ID: 3289227
Tue, Oct 14x, 2008, 09:23

got the clock started but a little late. sorry life happened. i can't make changes between 11pm and 7am or i would have started it last night. anyway we are running.

WonderB
ID: 3289227
Tue, Oct 14x, 2008, 11:22

you killed me taking nash in front of me. i had to think a long time on that pick.

Goldcoach
ID: 893426
Wed, Oct 15, 2008, 12:33

WOW! Two rounds in two days...At this rate we'll finish late on the 29th.

Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Wed, Oct 15, 2008, 13:13

Why are we at an 8 hour clock? RIHC is 6 hours.

WonderB
Sustainer
ID: 241053812
Wed, Oct 15, 2008, 13:21

hmm
i thought they would be 8 and i think that is what they were last year.
it's definatly 8 last year in the one i ran which was finished in 10 days.
6 may be coming if the pace continues. i'll see how it goes by the end of the week.

wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Wed, Oct 15, 2008, 13:41

i guess it is good we started so early. I do think we need to lower the clock sooner then later.

WonderB
Sustainer
ID: 241053812
Wed, Oct 15, 2008, 14:28

did anyone (threespleens) notice if aggy left a queue and threespleens gobbled up one or both of his queue picks. is that possible.

wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Wed, Oct 15, 2008, 14:33

he picked, we are moving again

wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Wed, Oct 15, 2008, 14:34

I was seeing it as no queue was left- it said current pick, not queue empty or unavailable.

wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Wed, Oct 15, 2008, 14:36

heading home for the day, my queue is set for my next pick, feel free to use it immediately.

wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Wed, Oct 15, 2008, 15:33

Dam, I had already written boozer on my team, i was hoping he would slide 1 more spot.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Oct 15, 2008, 18:29

My guess is that even 6 won't do at this point. It looks like most are making timely picks. The longer the clock, the more it hurts the managers doing what they are supposed to do. We all may have a pick where we just can't make it in a timley fashion. But 8 hours i akin to not having a clock at all. I think we have to be sensitive ot the Euro managers, but 8 is just overkill. As an aside, G20 gets 8 hours max for their whole draft--max of 3 hrs per pick. It works out really well. Not saying we need to do that for this league--simply a comparison.

WonderB
Sustainer
ID: 241053812
Wed, Oct 15, 2008, 18:48

i got sports tonight. out about the next 4 hours.
i tried to figure a queue but its too far away and two picks. sorry.

StomoDotCom
ID: 349531517
Wed, Oct 15, 2008, 18:53

Sorry about that, I had to tend to something and was too far for queue.
I'll be picking shortly

StomoDotCom
ID: 349531517
Wed, Oct 15, 2008, 19:54

And I think Guru's point in the email is well taken. The longer the clock, the more time people will take between picks. Any thoughts on changing it to maybe 6?

threespleens
Leader
ID: 00795541
Wed, Oct 15, 2008, 20:08

aggy left me a queue for round 1. not since.

WonderB
Sustainer
ID: 241053812
Wed, Oct 15, 2008, 22:21

here and picking in a minute.

WonderB
Sustainer
ID: 241053812
Wed, Oct 15, 2008, 23:04

we are at 1:38 per pick, projecting to finish on the 25th.
not to say i won't change it to 6 hours, i'm thinking if things still look slow 20 hrs from now i will change it around 5-6:00pm before the sleep break at 11:00pm. that gives everyone 14 hours from the time of the Clock Change Notice Email to realize the implications, plus this notice.

Philsphan
ID: 309828
Thu, Oct 16, 2008, 09:30

I just got to my office. I'll pick in a couple of minutes...

threespleens
Leader
ID: 00795541
Thu, Oct 16, 2008, 12:27

wish it got to me, but heading to sleep. leaving a queue.

WonderB
ID: 3289227
Thu, Oct 16, 2008, 12:53

good for both?

WonderB
ID: 3289227
Thu, Oct 16, 2008, 13:14

assume it is

WonderB
ID: 3289227
Thu, Oct 16, 2008, 13:56

no instructions for second pick off queue for threespleens or aggy.

wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Thu, Oct 16, 2008, 14:13

nice run there. Lets keep it up

StomoDotCom
ID: 349531517
Thu, Oct 16, 2008, 14:22

Hey if it doesn't get to me in the next hour or so, anyone picking up queues?

StomoDotCom
ID: 349531517
Thu, Oct 16, 2008, 15:47

Left queue (for round 5 only) and designated ref and wonderB as pickers. Don't want to slow the draft down.

Thanks

WonderB
ID: 3289227
Thu, Oct 16, 2008, 16:27

good

WonderB
ID: 3289227
Thu, Oct 16, 2008, 16:42

stomo
your Q is 'unavailable'.

StomoDotCom OnRoad
ID: 509391616
Thu, Oct 16, 2008, 17:41

I don't know what happened but thanks for the heads up. Just made my pick.

WonderB
ID: 3289227
Thu, Oct 16, 2008, 18:30

i'm assuming it will get back down to me tonight before i go to bed.
that will be 2 rounds today. good stuff.

Goldcoach
ID: 439131016
Thu, Oct 16, 2008, 18:30

I'll be gone for about 4 hours. I've left a queue for round 5 only please. I'd like to get back to adjust my pick/queue in round six.

Goldcoach
ID: 439131016
Thu, Oct 16, 2008, 18:36

Since I got my pick in as I was leaving; I've readjusted my queue. Go ahead and pick for round six if it gets back to me.

WonderB
ID: 3289227
Thu, Oct 16, 2008, 19:01

im home alone with my 18 month old and she is all over the key board. doing my best.

wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Thu, Oct 16, 2008, 19:02

good luck with that lol

WonderB
ID: 3289227
Thu, Oct 16, 2008, 20:13

done
what a battle. there was whineing and crying,,, and my daughter was all over me too.

o'neil, a bit of a hommer pick but should have value here for a C.

Goldcoach
ID: 439131016
Thu, Oct 16, 2008, 22:39

Re 95:
Not just a homer pick; a good pick. he was in my queue in front of B Miller. I think he'll have a good year.

WonderB
Sustainer
ID: 241053812
Thu, Oct 16, 2008, 23:07

2 rounds today. nice.

Philsphan
ID: 309828
Thu, Oct 16, 2008, 23:43

I've left a queue for round 6 only. Stomo and the commish are DP's.

threespleens
Leader
ID: 00795541
Fri, Oct 17, 2008, 00:02

there were two picks in front of me, so i left a queue of 4 players in order. no need for instructions.

100

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Oct 17, 2008, 15:24

grueling...

101

wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Fri, Oct 17, 2008, 16:30

you can say that again

102

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Oct 17, 2008, 16:47

We've wasted the entire day waiting on Aggy yet again. 8 hours. Then after he times out, there is the end cap and then he's up again. I propose that we move it to 6 hrs immediately. Then skip him again if he comes up and hasn't made his previous pick. Then on Monday drop it to 4 hrs max.

103

WonderB
ID: 3289227
Fri, Oct 17, 2008, 17:02

"Those picking at the endpoints do not get a double clock. In addition, if anyone is already in arrears for a pick when their next pick is due, they do not necessarily get a second clock period. This will be subject to Commissioner discretion."

from the RIHC rules guru has reposted over the years.
my discretion is he has had enough time to make all his picks.

104

wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Fri, Oct 17, 2008, 18:06

TIMED OUT

105

WonderB
Sustainer
ID: 241053812
Fri, Oct 17, 2008, 18:10

my dirty work is done.
i'm out for dinner. back in a couple hours so other pickers keep them going.

106

Philsphan
ID: 309828
Fri, Oct 17, 2008, 18:11

Does that mean that after threespleens makes his picks you are going to skip over Aggy in R #7? I am in favor of that.

If Aggy had offered an explanation after his first timeout I don't think there would be a problem, but he hasn't said anything. That's not right.

107

Goldcoach
ID: 439131016
Fri, Oct 17, 2008, 18:26

As I understand whenever anyone misses a pick he can make it up whenever he wants to picks without having to wait. Am I correct?

108

Goldcoach
ID: 439131016
Fri, Oct 17, 2008, 18:29

Rats! I was hoping Jamal would make it back down to me.

109

Philsphan
Donor
ID: 301442416
Fri, Oct 17, 2008, 18:46

107

Correct.

110

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Oct 17, 2008, 23:49

It' amazing how fast the draft goes when there is a shorter time limit. Not that I like for people to time out, but you'll notice picks flying off as they race to pick befor that perosn does and that person tends to also pick quickly if not that time then from then on. Also Qs start getting left. Please knock this clock down from 8 hours. I didn't even get to pick today. We should be picking a minimum of twice per day. Wiggs we had our draft flying last year didn't we!!! Last to start. First to finish. Don't even remember people even getting skipped.

111

wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Sat, Oct 18, 2008, 11:15

no, you are totally right, we were getting 3 and 4 picks in a day. People using the queue. I have used a queue for every pick, i think i should have been on the clock less then a minute total this draft. I dont think i have picked 1 time for myself, yet I sit at a computer 12 hours a day and I have also never picked for anyone else using their queue.

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wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Sat, Oct 18, 2008, 11:16

I think the worst part is the guy who has slowed us down hasnt even come in to say "sorry guys, lifes tough" or anything.

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WonderB
ID: 3289227
Sat, Oct 18, 2008, 11:38

i know it's frustrating waiting but we are on schedule. 1:22 per pick projected to finish late friday the 23rd as i write.
while i personally could probably handle a 4 hr clock i don't see a reason to go there in terms of just finishing the draft in time, which as commish is really my only goal and at this point i am confident of acomplishing.
i have not heard anyone speak out against a 6 hour clock so i can change it to speed things a little.
anyone else?

114

Goldcoach
ID: 439131016
Sat, Oct 18, 2008, 12:49

6 hours works for me. If I can't be close by I can always set up a queue. that's what is so frustrating...very little use of queues apparently.

115

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Oct 18, 2008, 14:35

113: 6 hrs is fine by me if the same person/people aren't slowing us up and in general picks are being mad ein a timely manner. But for me, it' smore than jsut getting done in time, but not having to sit around wiaitng for people to pick. I usually don't start filling in Qs until it's jsut a few picks before me.

Anyone think I reached big time on Mayo? I was trying to get a gut feeling on what he'd produce. Some places I looked didn't even have him ranked. Another looked to be right there while others looked to be more of a reach. In the end I felt that it was a good fit for me...for now. Had no intentions of getting him, but my planned players are being snatched right in front of me and my q was destroyed.

116

Goldcoach
ID: 439131016
Sat, Oct 18, 2008, 16:12

I thought it was ther first real "reach" of the draft. Some of his preseason action has been great!; though some nights he has struggled. If he gets consistant it'll be a great pick. He was on my list for a look next time around.

117

StomoDotCom
ID: 349531517
Sat, Oct 18, 2008, 17:52

Sorry for that. Internet was down and nothing I could do except wait for the company to get it back up.

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WonderB
ID: 3289227
Sat, Oct 18, 2008, 18:40

ok 6 hours it is.

119

StomoDotCom
ID: 349531517
Sat, Oct 18, 2008, 19:01

Philsphans queue is empty. Just a heads up.

120

Jason
ID: 28182214
Sat, Oct 18, 2008, 19:47

It' too slow.. and I am sleepy, it is almost 2am here..

I've left a queue for round 8. Youngroman and the commish are DP's. (This is my first queue, I hope I managed it well..)

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WonderB
ID: 3289227
Sat, Oct 18, 2008, 19:50

mayo was on my short list.

122

Philsphan
ID: 309828
Sat, Oct 18, 2008, 22:27

Sorry everyone. I was unexpedledly taken away all day. I'll pick shortly.

123

wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Mon, Oct 20, 2008, 13:34

I had arenas in 2 times and kept thinking i could wait.

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WonderB
ID: 3289227
Mon, Oct 20, 2008, 14:58

i started looking at him here. not sure what i would have done if he had made it to me though.

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Goldcoach
ID: 893426
Mon, Oct 20, 2008, 16:52

He was my pick if he had gotten that far. I think its a steal in round 11.

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WonderB
ID: 3289227
Mon, Oct 20, 2008, 18:29

left 2 man q. if mark takes one sorry. i'll have to do more research when i get back in an hour and 1/2.

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WonderB
ID: 3289227
Mon, Oct 20, 2008, 20:14

guess there was no need for that.

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Mark L
Leader
ID: 03601149
Mon, Oct 20, 2008, 20:19

Sorry about the holdup today -- I am in a trial and did not have
access or time to make a queue. Hope to have my s$#t together
tomorrow.

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WonderB
ID: 3289227
Mon, Oct 20, 2008, 20:23

baron and deron owners are dodging bullets.

130

WonderB
ID: 3289227
Mon, Oct 20, 2008, 20:56

bargnani, another homer pick, maybe not so much. good preseason but really handcuffed to o'niel.
did i need to worry i wouldn't get him here. i had that as a plan since my last pick but mark has screwed me more than once now.

131

Jason
ID: 58746253
Tue, Oct 21, 2008, 11:24

Hi!

Unfortunatelly I don't remember the rules of IS. I have Arenas, he is out until January. Can I pick up after the draft immediately a player?

132

WonderB
ID: 3289227
Tue, Oct 21, 2008, 12:31

yes.

133

WonderB
ID: 3289227
Tue, Oct 21, 2008, 12:45

that starts anouther topic.
i'll be setting the waiver period to last 3 days into the regular season. the intent for this is standard but commishes need to know what they are doing to set it up right, i hope i have learned enough from my mistakes. you will see a longer waiver period set in the first few days but after the initial period is over it will be set back to the standard 3 days.

134

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Oct 21, 2008, 13:47

Waiver period standard should be TWO days.

135

WonderB
ID: 3289227
Tue, Oct 21, 2008, 13:56

is it,ok. current settings are copied from last year and will return to such after initial period as stated. just writing off of memory. i'm in too many leagues to keep it all straight.

136

Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Oct 21, 2008, 14:17

[133] In the RIHC, all undrafted players will be put on waivers for 2 days immediately after the draft results are entered and finalized. There will be no extended waiver period at the beginning of the season.

Not sure what is meant by "the intent for this is standard"

137

WonderB
ID: 3289227
Tue, Oct 21, 2008, 14:29

i thought it was supposed to go into the regular season. its what i have tried to do in the past.
anyway ok as per guru.

138

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Oct 21, 2008, 14:33

I've never heard of that for any league before.

139

WonderB
ID: 3289227
Tue, Oct 21, 2008, 14:45

i think it was done like that the first year i played in a AA. then the next years when i commished assumed and tried to do the same thing but messed it up, like i said its tricky.
and i know we do it in a private points league so i could be mixing up league settings again.

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WonderB
Sustainer
ID: 241053812
Tue, Oct 21, 2008, 17:34

Q good for both picks.

141

StomoDotCom
ID: 349531517
Wed, Oct 22, 2008, 21:47

Shaun Livinston's on the Heat, No?

142

WonderB
Sustainer
ID: 241053812
Wed, Oct 22, 2008, 22:27

good draft guys.
i'll make a pick and get things set. it's late here so you will probably see it up tommorow. i'll start a new thread too.

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