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Game sites:     TSN Hoops     NBASE (RotoHog)     Draft Bug (daily contests)     Progressive Sports Challenge     Sandbox     Yahoo! Basketball 0 Subject: RIHC AAA#1 2011-12 Posted by: CJ - Leader [499271021] Tue, Dec 06, 2011, 22:22 I have sent out an invite to join the league on Yahoo for everyone involved. Once we are all in we will get a draft date to start and get our sequence figured out. If you have any issues getting into the league then please let me know soon. 1 gurudan       ID: 110122820       Wed, Dec 07, 2011, 19:41 did you offer me a place in a yahoo custom league cj ? cleanerman_ blue_bull 2 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Wed, Dec 07, 2011, 22:00 What do you mean? Yes I offered....the rihc AAA#1 right I will resend to you 3 Goldcoach       ID: 331042822       Wed, Dec 07, 2011, 22:01 I did not get an invite to yahoo;however I did get one to Draftime. 4 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Wed, Dec 07, 2011, 22:09 gurudan Yes this is me and the league you need to join Is this the rotoguru cj ? 5 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Wed, Dec 07, 2011, 22:10 #1 and #3 I have resent a second request to both of you. Checked the e-mails in here and they match the ones I sent to already. Please let me know if you are still having problems. We will try another way. 6 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Wed, Dec 07, 2011, 22:26 The Proposed Drat time is for 12-13-2011 starting at 9 am Eastern with 4 hour increments for making your pick. This time is only something i entered and will never execute on its own. Must be made into play manually and we can do that once we are all in agreement when to start it. 7 twolves       ID: 581120812       Thu, Dec 08, 2011, 13:21 It looks like most are in the yahoo league. My old kafenitid ID and password, I think got me into drafttime. After being signed in, I hit draftime from the email and the password popped up automatically. If I am not registered or signed in on draftime let me know. 8 BB the Ball       ID: 3710173019       Thu, Dec 08, 2011, 20:21 I'm good with the draft start time-- don't think we could push it much further... 9 gurudan       ID: 110122820       Thu, Dec 08, 2011, 20:32 cj i'm in at drafttime, but yahoo says the league is full, and won't accept me. let me know what to do. 10 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Thu, Dec 08, 2011, 23:26 Okay I will take a look I am on it and we will get you in ! 11 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Thu, Dec 08, 2011, 23:37 Okay not sure why...but you were one of the original invites so maybe it was reserving that spot? So I deleted your original invite and then sent out another invite to you. Also increased the league by one spot. Want to see you get in tomorrow and I hope this works. 12 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Thu, Dec 08, 2011, 23:40 We are all in Draft time....so now we need to watch and see where the hec all of these NBA players are going to end up playing? One to get into Yahoo and we are all set 13 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Fri, Dec 09, 2011, 11:18 gurudan I am headed out for the day....let me know if you still can not get into the league. I sure hope you can 14 gurudan       ID: 110122820       Fri, Dec 09, 2011, 20:53 i registered as last year's AA team reewal and got in. i'm registered as fear the monkey 15 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Sat, Dec 10, 2011, 10:05 good to see we have everybody in both Draft time and Yahoo. Next we will have to work on getting a sequence done so we know our drat order. Might need a volunteer to do this with me so it we keep it on the up and up. let me know who want to be a verification person on the sequence process. 16 Goldcoach       ID: 331042822       Sat, Dec 10, 2011, 16:05 I'll verify 17 bean       ID: 010343019       Mon, Dec 12, 2011, 13:34 draft is tomorrow? whats the order? 18 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Mon, Dec 12, 2011, 15:40 working on it 19 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Mon, Dec 12, 2011, 15:53 Okay........... Here is our list: twolves kooky mcshuffles Bean's Boys HoopTown Addicts fear the monkey GoldDribblers Jasonprof Tosh BB the Ball Weykool Coldwater coyotes CJ-2010-1 Now we need to get a sequence e-mailed to me. i need a random sequences of numbers 1 to 12. you can go to http://www.random.org/sequences/ or random.org and hit the tab 'Numbers' then 'Sequences' from the drop down. All I think we need is for One person to run this (Goldcoach) and then E-mail it to me and Post it in here. Then we know our order. I will be back in here tonight as I have to run right now busy day. Also we need to see who thinks we should hold off for a few more days to try and see where all of these FA are going to end up or NOT? 20 BB the Ball       ID: 3710173019       Mon, Dec 12, 2011, 19:22 Is this draft order or the order in which we pick our draft slot? 21 Goldcoach       ID: 331042822       Mon, Dec 12, 2011, 20:15 We need two members to give us the numbers 1 - 12 in random order. 22 Goldcoach       ID: 331042822       Mon, Dec 12, 2011, 20:16 We will use these to generate the draft order. 23 Goldcoach       ID: 331042822       Mon, Dec 12, 2011, 20:24 Sounds like cj wants me to do this so i will take the first two sets of #s sent to me re-arange the draft order twice and then e-mail everything to CJ for his verification and official stamp of approval. 24 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Mon, Dec 12, 2011, 22:38 I am back Home Where we at? No e-mail yet....And what are the thoughts on when to start the draft? I was just going to try one sequence and line it up to the order above and that is the draft order. 25 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Mon, Dec 12, 2011, 22:45 I ran a sequence: Here is your sequence: 4 7 12 3 10 11 1 6 2 5 9 8 Timestamp: 2011-12-13 03:41:47 UTC now we line up the list from above: So it would look like this: 4 twolves 7 kooky mcshuffles 12 Bean's Boys 3 HoopTown Addicts 10 fear the monkey 11 GoldDribblers 1 Jasonprof 6 Tosh 2 BB the Ball 5 Weykool 9 Coldwater coyotes 8 CJ-2010-1 If all is good with this I am game lets go forward? 26 twolves       Dude       ID: 811161317       Mon, Dec 12, 2011, 23:00 I am confused. Is that the list for the draft order set or do we now get to choose where we want to draft--ie #1 Jasonproof gets first choice on draft position(which could be 1-12) and we go down the list to set the draft order or is this the draft order and we are starting--Ie I am drafting fourth? 27 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Mon, Dec 12, 2011, 23:06 twolves No confusion I just listed everyone in whatever order from the league...then ran a sequence and matched it up to the list. Thus making the draft order this: 1 Jasonprof 2 BB the Ball 3 Addicted 4 pmtwolves 5 Rob Thayer 6 ToshRandy Turner 7 mc5huffl35 8 CJ 9 coldwater coyotes 10 gurudan 11 Goldcoach 12 beancline Now twolves makes a good point......I could allow each to post in here in the order and choose where they want to draft. We can still do that but it probably will not change the order I have posted much? Just let me know I can do this however you want it....but I wanted to get this done and look into getting the drafting process started. 28 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Mon, Dec 12, 2011, 23:33 I am off to bed folks....Up early and a long morning drive to Detroit. The draft does not start till I manually start it so I would like to hear some chatter from the group on when you might want to start? 29 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Tue, Dec 13, 2011, 07:57 Well I am thinking we need to have a roll call, possibly give the opportunity to pick the order in the sequence, and discuss how long we wait till we start the draft. I feel we have plenty of time before the first game that is for sure. I am on the road today and will not be back in here till this evening. I hope we can have some discussion on some of these topics. CJ 30 BB the Ball       ID: 3710173019       Tue, Dec 13, 2011, 08:10 I think the option to select draft order is best. If that is the route we take I will take the highest available slot when I'm up. With the first game in less than 2 weeks and a lot of drafting to do it might be better to start ASAP. I'm remembering 2 weeks as being a fairly quick draft last year... 31 twolves       Dude       ID: 811161317       Tue, Dec 13, 2011, 08:15 Picking draft order is fine with me as that seems to be the usual pattern and probably preferred for me. I think we have some time before we need to start. The draft should go fairly quickly after the first few rounds. Since we will be starting late may have advantage to "peek" at a few earlier drafts to help get idea if in doubt. 32 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Tue, Dec 13, 2011, 08:43 Okay sounds great to me I will get it started then: Here is the order you get to choose: Jasonprof BB the Ball Addicted pmtwolves Rob Thayer ToshRandy Turner mc5huffl35 CJ coldwater coyotes gurudan Goldcoach beancline 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 Just Copy and paste after you make your selection so the next person can go. Maybe tonight or tomorrow morning we can start the draft. Would nice to be able to hear from everyone in here before we start as it will only stall out immediately if we do not have all eyes on the ball. 33 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Tue, Dec 13, 2011, 09:28 1 Jasonprof 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 I am going to assume he will take the #1 spot I am out and on the road after this so I will check back late evening. Hope this process does not linger too long. I fear it might? 34 Tosh       Leader       ID: 057721710       Tue, Dec 13, 2011, 10:00 I'll go highest available when I am up. 35 bean       ID: 010343019       Tue, Dec 13, 2011, 11:02 I'll take whatever's left, hehe 36 Jason       ID: 511381310       Tue, Dec 13, 2011, 11:38 I confirm it, thank's. Jason 37 BB the Ball       ID: 3710173019       Tue, Dec 13, 2011, 19:13 1 Jasonprof 2 BB the Ball 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 38 Addicted       ID: 5911161320       Tue, Dec 13, 2011, 21:17 1 Jasonprof 2 BB the Ball 3 Addicted 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 39 twolves       Dude       ID: 811161317       Tue, Dec 13, 2011, 21:42 1 Jasonprof 2 BB the Ball 3 Addicted 4 5 twolves 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 40 weykool       ID: 71141119       Tue, Dec 13, 2011, 22:02 1 Jasonprof 2 BB the Ball 3 Addicted 4 5 twolves 6 Weykool 7 8 9 10 11 12 Tosh is up. 41 BB the Ball       ID: 3710173019       Tue, Dec 13, 2011, 22:42 Tosh posted he wanted highest available at Post #34... We should be OK for mc5huffl35.... 1 Jasonprof 2 BB the Ball 3 Addicted 4 Tosh 5 twolves 6 Weykool 7 8 9 10 11 12 42 gurudan       ID: 110122820       Tue, Dec 13, 2011, 23:11 at my turn give me the most bottom pick. thanx cj 43 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Tue, Dec 13, 2011, 23:30 Okay we are waiting to hear from mc5huffl35 I will send him an e-mail. 44 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Wed, Dec 14, 2011, 00:02 I have not seen threespleens (kooky mcshuffles) in here once since the thread was created. Hope he is in here soon. Anyone have personal knowledge of how to get a hold of him. 45 Goldcoach       ID: 331042822       Wed, Dec 14, 2011, 07:30 Since I don't have access to the boards at work, when Coldwater picks, then gives Gurudan the bottmmost pick, I will then take the uppermost pick. That leaves one spot for Beancline so we'll be done. 47 mc5huffl35       Leader       ID: 00795541       Wed, Dec 14, 2011, 10:41 1 Jasonprof 2 BB the Ball 3 Addicted 4 Tosh 5 twolves 6 Weykool 7 8 9 10 11 12 mc5huffl35 48 Coldwater coyotes       ID: 55229323       Wed, Dec 14, 2011, 11:44 If CJ takes #7 give me #8. Otherwise give me #7. 49 gurudan       ID: 110122820       Wed, Dec 14, 2011, 16:05 give me # 11 51 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Wed, Dec 14, 2011, 18:55 1 Jasonprof 2 BB the Ball 3 Addicted 4 Tosh 5 twolves 6 Weykool 7 CJ 8 Coldwater coyotes 9 10 11 gurudan 12 mc5huffl35 52 Coldwater coyotes       ID: 55229323       Wed, Dec 14, 2011, 20:26 See 45 for next pick 53 Goldcoach       ID: 331042822       Wed, Dec 14, 2011, 21:02 1. Jasonprof 2. BB the Ball 3. Addicted 4. Tosh 5. Twolves 6. Weykool 7. CJ 8. Coldwater Coyotes 9. Goldcoach 10. Beancline 11. Gurudan 12. McShuffl35 We're Done! 54 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 01:25 Sweet....BUT....do we have everyone's attention? Roll Call? Can we start the draft in the morning? Thoughts? 55 Tosh       Leader       ID: 057721710       Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 03:16 The sooner you open up Drafttime, the sooner I can start making my queue. 56 Goldcoach       ID: 331042822       Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 06:41 I'm ready 57 twolves       Dude       ID: 811161317       Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 07:11 I think Friday morning may be better as it might be good to have a brief discussion about draft rules, time limits although they have never really been enforced strictly in prior drafts but is a good framework to work by. I assume time limit longer for early rounds and clock off for a certain period--11:00pm to 7:00am CST to sleep. We may need to familiarize with new draft site but I assume not very different than last year but have not been at the site yet due to time constraints of work. I will be out most of today due to work and evening engagemnet. 58 Goldcoach       ID: 331042822       Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 07:22 First games are 10 days away. If we start Friday thats 16 rounds in 9 days, certainly do-able but everyone will need to be on their toes and use queues. I suggest we open up the draft asap and start a 4 hour clock Monday am. With the new site queues can be set up by round so there's no need to worry about timing out unless you refuse to use a queue. 59 BB the Ball       ID: 3710173019       Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 08:05 I'm ready-- maybe open with no time limit ASAP and add a clock when everyone checks in? 60 twolves       Dude       ID: 811161317       Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 08:08 Round queues are nic but I have never been able to do more than one round at a time especially in the early rounds. I assume the next player on the clock will be notified. I think a 4 hour clook for the early rounds is good guideline with the clock off for period at night. If someone is out for period of time due to work or other may need to communicate ideas of choices with someone to speed up the draft. The later rounds if pressed for time can easily shorten clock as those choices often not as difficult usually. Can you send out a list of emails for comuunication purposes to everyone? Sometime that may be better than communicating on the board. 61 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 08:34 BB BAll I am going to start the draft as you suggested with no time limit to start...this way we are rolling and we will see where to go from there. Thanks all ! 62 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 08:43 Draft is Started with No Time Limit for now. Once we get everyone with at least a pick or two in we will have to lock down the time and start rolling. I am not sure but I will assume you get an e-mail when it is your pick. Jason you are up and the rest can stat filling up the que. 63 Guru       ID: 330592710       Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 10:54 CJ - please mark your draft as a public draft, so that others can follow it. You can do this on the admin page for your draft. 64 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 11:48 will do 65 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 20:45 weykool you out there? Your pick is next 66 BB the Ball       ID: 3710173019       Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 20:54 The queue was pretty simple-- especially with only 2 guys to list.. it should speed things up when we get going full speed-- thanks for doing all the tough work CJ! 67 twolves       Dude       ID: 811161317       Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 22:22 I did not get notified that I was up for to draft. I just happen to look between work and evening engagement. In the past have gotten email notification. Can that be part of the new system or does someone have to do it. Notification certainly would help speed things up. 68 Tosh       Leader       ID: 057721710       Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 23:01 Way up at the top, there is a link that says 'edit account'. You can manage your email notifications from there. 69 gurudan       ID: 110122820       Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 23:11 good nite. i'm gone til 400 pm est fri. no q for my 1st 2 rounds. sorry, but i didn't get to pick all day thur., and don't wanna screw up my 1st 2 round picks. i'm for any clock after that. fifteen minutes is good for me 70 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Fri, Dec 16, 2011, 03:05 twolves....Yes I did and have been getting e-mail notifications. gurudan that is okay we will get this going and after we have all in here more permanent...maybe the weekend allows us to go faster? By Monday we will have to get the clock going for sure because we will have to make up for lost time. 71 twolves       Dude       ID: 811161317       Fri, Dec 16, 2011, 10:03 I think I got it fixed as Tosh indicated. I did not realize I had to do that with the new system. Thanks. Looks like a quiet day since next pick in our draft not until late today. I will be out this evening. 72 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Fri, Dec 16, 2011, 18:57 I was not planning on taking the player I did on my last pick but really could not pass it up with the 18th pick. So what are the thoughts of starting the clock soon? I think we should all try and be near the PC for a few hours and we may be able to go through 3-5 rounds. As if it was a live draft scheduled on Yahoo. We would all have to commit to a time frame that works for all of us...and the small amount that can not maybe can set up a que? 73 BB the Ball       ID: 3710173019       Fri, Dec 16, 2011, 19:20 I'll be around on and off for most of the evening-- 74 weykool       ID: 71141119       Fri, Dec 16, 2011, 20:45 CJ: Still too early to panic. We did the same thing last season. The pace will pick up. From last season: Picks by day: Monday 21 Tuesday 24 Wednesday 42 Thursday 41 Friday 15 Remaining picks 49 We should set the clock to 4 hours once we finish the 2nd round and we will be fine. 75 Goldcoach       ID: 331042822       Fri, Dec 16, 2011, 21:52 CJ, I know the feeling...I was surprised to see him there when I took Griffin. I just thought the addition of CP3 would give Blake a boost over Amare'. I am worried about ft% though. I will be gone most of Sat am, but will have queues set up. If you guys pick my queue clean its obviously not my fault! 76 Tosh       Leader       ID: 057721710       Sat, Dec 17, 2011, 12:52 I really wish this thing could go faster. Come Thursday morning, I'm just making a list and turning it on. Come on guys. Make some picks! 77 twolves       Dude       ID: 811161317       Sat, Dec 17, 2011, 15:19 Has anyone tried to contact McShuffle? It is tough to lose a weekend day without picking at least once or twice. I will be out for the evening again. 78 BB the Ball       ID: 3710173019       Sat, Dec 17, 2011, 16:20 Can we do a 2-3 person queue? I know setting up a 20 person queue is difficult but 2-3 may speed things up if you're close to being on the clock.... 79 twolves       Dude       ID: 811161317       Sat, Dec 17, 2011, 18:18 Sorry McShuffle. It was Jasonprof who was up earlier. I think things will pick up and go faster today and tomorrow. Just concerned with work on Monday for some of us which makes getting to computer and making picks more difficult. 80 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Sat, Dec 17, 2011, 18:24 I am here making pick...just got home 81 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Sat, Dec 17, 2011, 18:30 OKay I am done Coldwater is up ! I am not picking who I want but keep picking best for the pick....not sure if that is good in the end. 82 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Sat, Dec 17, 2011, 18:39 Goldcoach is up 83 Tosh       Leader       ID: 057721710       Sat, Dec 17, 2011, 18:39 Draftime is very functional on the iphone this year. Kudos to the webmaster for the improvements! 84 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Sat, Dec 17, 2011, 18:47 ha ha ha I missed Granger and about 2 min after slecting Pierce I realized I messed up Good pick 85 Goldcoach       ID: 331042822       Sat, Dec 17, 2011, 18:53 Gracias 86 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Sat, Dec 17, 2011, 20:25 I have been playing around with the auto pick then setting the delay so if you are watching the drafts as they are made you have that delay to option out of your next selection....but if you are away for an unexpected time then it will kick in say after 10-20 Min (After your set Delay) and make your pick. I suggest this due to at some point we are all going to have rely on it in the later rounds. Mc5huffl35 is up to pick TWice 87 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Sat, Dec 17, 2011, 20:54 I will check back in a few hours as I am about to watch movie with kids... would be great to make next pick 88 mc5huffl35       Leader       ID: 00795541       Sat, Dec 17, 2011, 21:33 Just got home from work (no comp) and picked. When I left for work I was 12 picks away. Kind of tough to set a q. 89 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Sat, Dec 17, 2011, 23:11 I understand....but taking K Martin...that crossed the line....ha ha ha 90 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Sun, Dec 18, 2011, 00:20 I am off to bed...I am up after coldwater...so if he picks...I have two players ready to go. I have the "Manage Pick-Based Queue (2 Players)" set up and assume it will pick for me auto and if not please someone pick if you can? I am not sure what exactly this does and I hope no one can see it....LOL 91 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Sun, Dec 18, 2011, 08:52 Well It appears it worked ? 92 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Sun, Dec 18, 2011, 11:42 WOW Joe going that late...he was my last second choice after Noah great grab that deep in draft 93 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Sun, Dec 18, 2011, 12:07 I have to head out........so I have a 4 player que all set. 94 BB the Ball       ID: 3710173019       Sun, Dec 18, 2011, 13:19 Yea it worked out well for me this turn--- just hope I didn't jinx myself now... 95 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Sun, Dec 18, 2011, 16:38 I have two in my que....but doubt they are available when the time comes....will check in after a bit Should we start the clock in the morning? 96 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Sun, Dec 18, 2011, 17:05 3 guys make the next SIX picks Hope they find their way to Draft time soon. Then gold, Coldwater, and myself. 97 twolves       Dude       ID: 811161317       Sun, Dec 18, 2011, 18:24 I would have preferrred to use clock over weekend and not during week if possible as I may our for lengths of timne due to work but will let you know. I think mid round picks can be more difficult than early picks and difficult to leave much of a que for me much in advance due to who might or might not be available as picks before may affect how picks are made later. 98 Tosh       Leader       ID: 057721710       Sun, Dec 18, 2011, 18:50 CJ - I see two places where you need to edit the settings. At Yahoo - Change the bench slots from 4 to 5 (3 bench + 2 IR) At Draftime - Change the number of rounds from 16 to 15 99 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Sun, Dec 18, 2011, 19:47 Actually This is what we did last year...NO IR slots at all ( No policing to be done) and just have the extra bench spots. 100 Tosh       Leader       ID: 057721710       Sun, Dec 18, 2011, 20:11 I have not seen that before. Any other rules different from RIHC I should know about? 101 gurudan       ID: 110122820       Sun, Dec 18, 2011, 20:15 i just had a thought. i drafted a yahoo H2H team tonight,and forgot about it til rd. 15 of 17. we started 700 and finished at 724. can i use my team in this league? i only picked 3 rds. so 1-14 were auto picked. love, curry, melo, josh smith, dave lee, ibaka j wall, lowry, frye, garnett blatche, harden,jamieson, j jack, tony allen, hayes, and morrow. i should have a chance, i guess 102 twolves       Dude       ID: 811161317       Sun, Dec 18, 2011, 20:17 So we should have 15 rounds of drafting but roster will allow for 17. Players can be added which can be done after draft completed. I assume an initial waiver period with #12 having top priority on waiver eligible players. HOw long will the waiver period be intially and during the season. The IR eligibility may be a bit tenuous since season starting so fast and no one on IR probably until 1st game played or indications they officially on IR or that they will miss more than 3-5 games at start? 103 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Sun, Dec 18, 2011, 21:38 Weykool Help Me out here ! Do you remember what we did in eliminating the IR slots last year. I just duplicated the league in Yahoo from last year...but it appears as if this is going to come up as an issue. Apparently not everyone being aware of this as an option in RIHC. Going to have iron this out before we go any further....I personally am not in favor of going back to having IR slots and rather have the 4 bench slots. But I am drawing a blank on how many roster spots? 104 Coldwater coyotes       ID: 55229323       Sun, Dec 18, 2011, 21:49 I believe 3 bench spots plus an additional 2 IR spots 105 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Sun, Dec 18, 2011, 21:55 1 PG 1 SG 2 G 1 SF 1 PF 2 F 2 C 2 Utility 4 bench Total of 16 roster spots and no IR to deal with. I loved doing this last year as an option we went with. It was great for not having to constantly look after teams and when a player was on IR or not. Sending e-mails off to teams asking them to drop a player because the player they had on IR no longer on IR then a week later back on IR.... 106 twolves       Dude       ID: 811161317       Sun, Dec 18, 2011, 22:09 THe AAA league we played last year had 15 spots and 2 IR spots and notification was required before IR sot filled and honor to drop as soon as IR player played a game. There were 2 spots that were left open/technically availabe with the note on Yahoo at times that indicated open roster spot which could be confusing. So if we do the 16--are we drafting 16? I would prefer limiting roster to 15 potential players with 2 injury slots as before I think although it is a shorter season. HOwever, with the density of the schedule it may be nice to be able to have 15 able bodies for the 12 spots. 107 weykool       ID: 1611471811       Sun, Dec 18, 2011, 22:48 CJ: If we have 16 poster spots then we dont have the IR. If we need the two IR spots then we need another bench and only draft 15. Im with you.....16 roster spots makes it much more simpler and most teams usually have 1 injured player on average. I commish another leagues using the same format as RIHC and we use 16 with no IR. So if you are looking for a vote put me down for no IR. 108 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Sun, Dec 18, 2011, 22:54 Good to hear I did want to hear from you. I fell in love without the IR spot and just allowed to keep an extra bench spot. It is really the same thing just we do not have to police and drop and pick up each time a player is on or off again from IR. twolves and mc5huffl35 were in the league with us last year as well. Those who strongly object...then I guess we would have to bring it to a vote. Now back to the draft...Where is BeanCline? 109 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Sun, Dec 18, 2011, 22:57 100 Tosh The no IR spot was a suggestion provided from Dave last year after a discussion about what to do with the IR spots came to a front. I had never been in a draft without an IR before that. So it is allowed in the RIHC. 110 Tosh       Leader       ID: 057721710       Sun, Dec 18, 2011, 23:09 Rule #1 of fantasy sports is 'know the rules'. Imagine my surprise when after playing RIHC for the last six years using the same rules ... suddenly they are different this year. I don't really care either way. Just tell me what the rules are. At this pace, I only want about 10-man rosters. My draft is mostly over on Thursday when I leave on vacation. 111 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Sun, Dec 18, 2011, 23:38 Tosh are you going to be unable to draft after that? If so then we need to make a stronger effort to get the drafting going faster. I have to get the teams over to Yahoo and owners need to check over their teams and the FA wire...we need more days for any other bugs that could happen so Yes we need to get this going much faster. Also Tosh are you not going to have access over vacation to set your roster for x-mas day? I try and have a few guys in my Que when I know I am going to be away otherwise I check back in often......Like Today was horrible. Clock has to start soon...but thing is it always inconvenient's someone. What to do? 112 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Sun, Dec 18, 2011, 23:40 Tosh I would not call it changing the rules. we are just not going to call the slots IR and instead telling all to put your IR guys there or pick up another bench player. We will draft 16 rounds and that will leave each of us with 4 roster spots for a bench. 113 Tosh       Leader       ID: 057721710       Sun, Dec 18, 2011, 23:56 I have a 7-hour flight on Thursday 12/22. I will have access via phone on Friday 12/23, but since I'm in Hawaii touring Pearl Harbor and Honolulu, there is certainly zero interest in fantasy drafting. I get on a cruise ship on 12/24. There is no way I'm paying 75 cents per minute onboard for wi-fi ... so the only time I'm looking at fantasy is on my phone when I'm in dock. And again ... not much interest when I can snorkel or whale watch instead. So yeah ... if you (as Commish) don't get this draft moving, completed, and rosters entered in Yahoo by Friday night 12/23 ... it's possible I can't enter a lineup until 1/1. 114 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Mon, Dec 19, 2011, 00:37 I have added a 4 hour clock that only pauses from 1:00 am eastern time till 6:00 am. Some may find this overly aggressive but we have to get it going...we got slammed back today with only 16 picks all Sunday. 16 picks a day is not going to make it in time. I am thinking like 180 picks....we are at #59 leaving 120 to go. 16 a day means 7.5 more days....lol We need 40 picks over 3 days please. I will be gone tomorrow for about 6 hours but I assure you I will have my que set for the amount of players for picks away from my turn. 115 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Mon, Dec 19, 2011, 00:38 113 Tosh I will have this in Thursday night! 116 Tosh       Leader       ID: 057721710       Mon, Dec 19, 2011, 00:54 Thanks CJ. My queue is currently 49 players. I need a 149-man queue to get me through round 16. I'm not ready to list that many yet. I'm sure you know this ... but you can enter the draft results at Yahoo as the draft goes along. It saves you time at the end, and the draft also moves faster, since other managers have an accurate listing of available players. 117 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Mon, Dec 19, 2011, 01:14 I will do that. I have an action packed week with kids school programs and work to finish up before the holiday festivities begin. Thursday night is my finish line.....LOL If I can accomplish it all and make it to that in one piece I have lots of time for a few days. In my spare time throughout the week I will start to move it over, but it seems like last year I imported them. 118 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Mon, Dec 19, 2011, 01:42 Got all picks into Yahoo up to this point. Will continue to insert them as we pick. Lets get our Que's filled folks. 119 weykool       ID: 1611471811       Mon, Dec 19, 2011, 02:31 4 hours should be plenty. The first few rounds are more critical, but managers should be using the queue much more to keep the pace moving. Tosh: I dont believe that it has been 6 years since Yahoo stopped with their IR designations. RIHC adopted new rules when Yahoo made the change. Since then the option has always been there to add another roster spot instead of the two IR places. I dont see it as a significant change. If you have no injured players you have 1 more player to get in your games. If you have 1 injured player the you have the same 15 players to work with. If you have two injured players you have one less player to work with. Over the course of a season most managers average about 1 player on IR on a rotating basis. 120 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Mon, Dec 19, 2011, 02:38 Draft Time has us Projected for....................... Projected Finish Dec 26, 2011, 6:12 pm ha ha ha I hope to finish this up in three days. 3 picks a day is not asking for to much and now that everyone is familiar with the process...just get the Que's loaded for the amount you are between picks 121 Tosh       Leader       ID: 057721710       Mon, Dec 19, 2011, 03:27 weycool - you are correct. For all 6 years of RIHC I have played, there have been 15 slots, and 2 IR slots. Two years ago, the NBA changed their rules, and removed the IR. And Yahoo did too. So Guru adopted the current rules, where the Commish has to regulate it's usage. I have played by the traditional rules both years, and was not even aware that leagues had options on what to do. I just assumed everyone played with the same rules. 122 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Mon, Dec 19, 2011, 08:49 Everyone needs to have a que ready to go and especially if you know your pick is about 4-5 away. Unless you are babysitting your next pick you have to get a handful of players in a que so we can get rolling. Anyone know what happens if the clock runs out and you have not picked? 123 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Mon, Dec 19, 2011, 09:39 I see myself and Weykool have Instant Que's set up. Then I see BBall and GoldCouch have Que's set up with 10 Min and 30 Min delay. Then there is Jason and Gurudan with Que's available. Meanign someone can and has to select for them. And I beleive you can see the whole que? This is good....but the rest of you and especially then next few who are to pick after me and weykool.......Wolves, Tosh, and addicted do not have Que's. And that is actually fine if you know you are checking in and or going to be around to have access. I have enough for two picks with 14 players in my Que and turned on with Instant Pick. Granted not everyone will feel comfortable with this but I know who I need and who I would like to have. I also know who I do not want so for me it is kind of easy at this point in the draft. I just ask that we please do not have 4 hours stoppages during the day. No reason we can not get 3 picks a piece today. If someone is not going to have access and wants to phone me then lets set it up. I know I am sounding like Ebenezer Scrooge here but really we need more time and the only way to make that up is to get our picks lined up and get rolling. Need to work like a team because one person flat-lines on us then it is a killer. 124 Tosh       Leader       ID: 057721710       Mon, Dec 19, 2011, 10:02 You should really change that start time. A 4-hour clock that starts at 3am (West Coast) is just plain wrong. 125 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Mon, Dec 19, 2011, 10:24 I will stop draft then ...but note this......it has been a 4 hour clock...where are we when it is 10 am Monday morning? There is a draft going on ! One that has to get done because the current time frame places us AFTER the first set of games on x-mas day. Now I have to go to work and I am not going to have access. I have no idea how to fix a missed pick....I was not aware it did that or I would have stopped it prior. I will have to figure out how to fix this later. 126 Coldwater coyotes       ID: 55229323       Mon, Dec 19, 2011, 10:33 I just woke up. LA based. Give me Demarcus Cousins 127 Tosh       Leader       ID: 057721710       Mon, Dec 19, 2011, 10:34 A skipped pick gets taken care of the next time someone logs in. I've set a longer delay to give Coldwater time to log in and pick ... 128 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Mon, Dec 19, 2011, 10:36 okay I did that...very sorry for that I guess being on the west coast and me on the east there is a 3 hour beat there. Just so as long you got who you wanted. I have to fly I will not be back till 3 PM eastern 129 twolves       ID: 371121912       Mon, Dec 19, 2011, 13:02 I am really busy at work today and will be out of computer range from around 1:00pm to 7:00pm today but after that should be better. 130 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Mon, Dec 19, 2011, 15:20 Looks like we will hit a stop point in 3 picks as twolves is out of contact till 7PM Eastern I assume? With this in mind can I ask for myself, Weykool,Coldwater, Goldcoach, Beancline, gurudan, and Mc5huffl35 be available from 7:30 till 9 PM ? If so we could run it right back to twolves in an hour . If we can all be around our PC during those times then we can easily rebound this and sling it right back to T wolves in a few hours to get another pick for twolves. Question is from now till then who can attend? If not then can you set up a Que? 131 Goldcoach       ID: 331042822       Mon, Dec 19, 2011, 18:19 I'm here for the nite. Usually head to bed around 10:00 pm Eastern . Would love to get the next two picks in to set up queues for the next day. 132 gurudan       ID: 110122820       Mon, Dec 19, 2011, 18:22 i'll set my q i'm drafting at yahoo, and watching the stillers get some niner ass 133 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Mon, Dec 19, 2011, 20:28 Where is mc5huffl35 ? Two picks then all that just picked can go again as most should still be present......what causes it to stall it getting stuck...then all give up checking and leave. I have Que set up for INSTANT picks 134 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Mon, Dec 19, 2011, 21:42 I really wish we could start using the tools available or be present to make your next pick. One person is all it takes to stall out an evening of making many picks. I was only present for the first few picks but at this point I know what I want and can easily set up a Que for 10-14 players. 135 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 00:36 ha ha ha The announcers keep saying Meta World Peace....and I know it is his name....but sounds so STUPID! Other note I am off to bed. Did watch Clippers and WOW Jordan and Paul seem to like to play together....WOW! 136 weykool       ID: 1611471811       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 01:03 Does McShuffle get a 2nd clock? From the rules for RIHC: Those picking at the endpoints do not get a double clock. In addition, if anyone is already in arrears for a pick when their next pick is due, they do not necessarily get a second clock period. This will be subject to Commissioner discretion. TBH at this point in the draft I have very little sympathy for someone who misses a pick. Outside a real life emergency the is no excuse not to make a timely pick or have a queue set up. There are plenty of tools available to avoid a missed pick. I say we move on as a courtesy for those who are more prepared. 137 mc5huffl35       Leader       ID: 00795541       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 03:32 In Vancouver. Today, for the second day in a row, when I left for work, it was 11 picks away from me. I have no internet access at work and cell phones are banned. Depending who is chosen during those 11 picks, it drastically affects the pair of players I select, especially when I have to wait 22 picks until I pick again. Do you expect a 13 player queue? Do you expect an email of scenarios (please choose player A and player F if both available, but player C and player G if player A is gone, but if player G is gone, then I prefer players E and H... etc)? When I get home, I pick right away. I have off the next two days. I will make timely picks. Chill the **** out. It's a fantasy draft. And happy holidays. 138 twolves       ID: 161133202       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 03:33 I disagree with above and Mcshuffle should be allowed time for both picks as that relatively obscure rule not made clear at start of clock. I think the BEASLEY PICK SHOULD BE VOIDED until Mcshuffle second pick made. 139 mc5huffl35       Leader       ID: 00795541       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 03:57 It's too late to change now. Move along. 140 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 07:35 I saw the option to disallow the second pick of the snake another 4 hours but left it alone. That is my Bad. Lets move forward and hope we can finish this in a few days. We have to check in often and if you can not do that then Yes you need to make a deep Que....I am here almost all of the time but I keep a 14 man Que. If you know you are going to be Gone then Yes make a que ....there is a draft going and we all rely on one another to be ready. Now twolves......he was given both clocks? I saw the first expire and the second start before I went to bed eastern time zone. Plus the night stoppage and it appears he made the second pick BEFORE Gurudan. Gurudan had the Que set on Instant Pick so it appears as the same time. Next.....if Beasley was so sought after then the second of the snake pick was when he could have taken that player. Otherwise it falls back on the first snake pick where the time was fully expired. And you can see that pick was then taken 6 minutes later. I think we are okay and moving forward. 141 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 07:53 beancline is on the clock and after he picks...... There will be three INSTANT picks happening . What that means is weykool, twolves, tosh, and addicted should be available or getting a Que set up. 142 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 10:00 AGAIN...here we go another pick about to run the clock out. Am I being unfair....and if so then please tell me....but my take is we have a draft in process and under a very short time frame to do so. So make a Que and add enough players to go through your pick if you know you could possibly not be able to check back for awhile. If you are 1,2,3,4,5,6 and picks away you better have some players placed in a Que. If I am being unfair and we need to take the clock off then I will but I do not think you will have a league to play in or one that is legit to compare to any other. I want to make sure I am being fair to all of those wanting to participate. 143 Addicted       ID: 5410532812       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 10:21 CJ, I think you're being fair. Even if someone doesn't want to setup a queue, they could email you and at least let you know what's up. It's the checking back and seeing that nothings happening that's so frustrating. --Addicted-- 144 Tosh       Leader       ID: 057721710       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 11:09 CJ - You should make it a two hour clock. There's no way I will finish my draft before I leave on vacation, and the draft is going to finish after the season starts at this pace ... mc5huffl35 [139] - Nice apology for holding everyone up during prime time picking hours. It's refreshing to see your concern. [/sarcasm] 145 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 11:26 Tosh I am ALL IN for moving up the clock...If I can hear from a few more then I will do it. And I agree there will not be a league if we do not get it going and the time frame you mention is based on not near as many picks we are actually going to make at this point. So it is actually even worse. We have to do like 4 rounds a day ! ! ! 146 weykool       ID: 1611471811       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 12:02 I am all for moving the draft along but dont think a 2 hour clock is fair to those who have been making timely picks. The clock is a safety net should there be a run of picks. Everyone needs to make use of the tools available, set a queue, especially if you have no access for an extended period of time. 147 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 12:36 well it is currently on a two hour clock...if I change it back to a 4 hour then WOW as soon as it gets stuck and especially at the end of the snake we are talking 8 hours of stuck...NO WAY can we afford to allow this to happen. You are talking about not having the league at all ...because I for one want to start this on time. We are only halfway ! Plus think about those that do not set a Que and then allow the time to run out then miss the pick all together......only wasted more time. I will move it back to a 2 hour until I hear it is accepted by more. But come tomorrow if we have another night like last night.... essentially killing the process last night...no way can we afford to have a snake end take that long. 148 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 12:40 I am headed out for 3 hours NO ACCESS...but I am what. I am 5 picks away and I have a 14 Que going...think I will be alright? Addicted - Did you really need another Guard...you took my sleeper ! ! ! 149 Addicted       ID: 5410532812       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 12:58 Sorry CJ, Tosh keeps taking my picks!! --Addicted-- 150 bean       ID: 010343019       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 13:01 Well I made the mistake of no reading stuff here because the draft seemed to be moving along ok. I went to bed last night very late and Mcshuffle hadnt made his pick yet. I got up this morning only to find that I was skipped and many people had picked ahead of me. I dont mind a short clock, but it should be stopped in the middle of the night. Geezus, arent we allowed to sleep? 151 mc5huffl35       Leader       ID: 00795541       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 13:04 What is refreshing is someone taking a vacation in the middle of a draft. If you don't think you will be able to finish, why sign up? Tosh [144] - If you read my reasons for not picking in a reasonable amount of time, then we agree to disagree on something. I communicated that going forward, my picks will be done much quicker. And the whole [/sarcasm] thing is a little 2006ish isn't it? Having this a week before Christmas sucks. Between getting burned out a work due to the busyness, and the apparent "The world is going to end if we don't make picks in a 4 hour window" attitude around here is not making for an enjoyable fantasy bb season so far. I do want to see this get done on time and do have concern that it won't. I didn't complain about how the random lists were done incorrectly to start the draft. I didn't complain about not getting Beasley with my round eight pick. I didn't complain about a fellow west coaster missing a pick with a four hour clock put on at 3am pacific time. Now I have. Let's get the draft done. 152 weykool       ID: 1611471811       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 13:14 Geezus, arent we allowed to sleep? If you leave a 4 player queue you are allowed to sleep...otherwise you miss a pick. 153 Tosh       Leader       ID: 057721710       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 13:26 [151] If you don't think you will be able to finish, why sign up? We were assigned to the league on December 5. We are currently behind every other RIHC league in drafting. With the time we were allowed, we should have easily finished by 12/22 when I leave town. 154 bean       ID: 010343019       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 13:35 Well I wouldve take DeRozan if i was on. Had made a queue but didnt activate it. Guess I will just have to hope for an early season injury exit for DeRozan. If he has break out year, expect to hear me whining about it all season....hehehe 155 twolves       ID: 104481913       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 15:37 I do not think the clock should run at night but it may be important to beware of what time zones people are in. There are some of us working who actually haave to sleep and it would not be fair to miss a pick at night. Change it to midnight to 7:00 am CST to give everyone a fair chance depending on time zone and potentially during the day have the clock a bit faster as just happenened. I think 2 hours is fair at this point. If Someone is out for a length of time it would be nice to put on the board to let people know. That is why it would have been nice to have potential email addresses and someone else to review your que by logging in and pick for you with your instructions and ideas without giving away your longer term plans. That is what I had done in a previous league. It could be another player in another league, too. 156 weykool       ID: 1611471811       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 15:59 The length of the clock is not the problem. For some reason setting up a queue is a concept we cant get everyone to buy into. Bean was here 2 hours ago complaining about his missed pick, didnt set up a queue, and now has wasted another hour of prime picking time. 157 twolves       ID: 104481913       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 16:07 Speaking of draft clocks, since the timer was reset to 2 hours, has it been running?? I do not see the time anymore or am I missing something? As far as a Que setting--I am reluctant to put on auto as have been burned in the past regretting some of my choices especially if set a long way off. I do put players that I am considering though for fast analysis when my turn comes so they are ready to hand pick. HOwever, the choices I have really wanted has been gone each round so far whom I would have dared leave in the que in early rounds. 158 weykool       ID: 1611471811       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 16:10 You have not been a problem. You can also set your queue for a delay. Give yourself 20 or 30 mins to decide or in the cans you are gone will pick in a timely manner. 159 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 16:25 Bean you had till 10:00 am Eastern and still no pick. Are you on the west coast to? Are you all on the west coast....Then I guess that should be something to be know in drafts from now on so that the times can be adjusted accordingly. Either way you have to have a Que set with a few picks you would love to have....that will always prevent this from happening. I see that Mcshuffle picked at 2:14 AM and gurudan was on AUTO PICK so that is why it executed instantly. from there you were on the clock from then till 10 am that was 8 hours....I think the clock was stopped. How did you get 8 hours of time to pick then? Here is the current settings: 1 am ET (10 pm Pacific) - 8 am ET (5 Am Pacific) (Daytime, 7 Hours) With a 4 hour clock I can not see how this is a problem...again have a Que set up please. I set the clock to stop at night...are we saying it did not stop? I think it did. It did the night before. It is possible with all the stopping and starting with the issues that is reset to NOT stopping. I can change it to whatever is to the liking of the majority....or we can have Ques set and ready to roll. I have not been present for any of my picks other than the first few rounds. And I am here most of the time...just lands as i am going to be away. Oh YA ! ! ! This is NOT normal to have drafts the week before x-mas...chalk that up to the Players ! ! ! Or owners however you want to look at it. 160 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 16:39 151 mc5huffl35 Why not have a Que then you would have drafted Beasley. 154 Bean If you put DeRozen in a Que then YES you would have had him. Everyone Please understand we are RUSHED...and it is Christmas....we just have to get Que's going or this will continue to happen. As far as Tosh and his vacation...that i sonly an addition to why I want this to hurry up...there are other things that need to happen in getting everythign into Yahoo giving us time to look over teams, drop and add players as news comes in. Plus I will be doing all of this...when? On x-mas eve ? I do not think so...all the more reason to get this done by Thursday. I mean really we all have different things going on as it is x-mas. I have Thursday night travel with kids to my parents for a Friday x-mas there, then Sat afternoon at the Wife's parents and then Sunday morning our house with our Six kids. So that is not exactly like Tosh ...a vacation...but it would be nice to have this set and only deal with NBA news and any possible technical issues. At this point lets calm down and go forward understanding one unanimous agreement... This is THE WRONG TIME OF YEAR to have a draft! And that is why this is all happening the way it is. Lets get through this and enjoy what NBA season we have. I am all in ! ! ! 161 mc5huffl35       Leader       ID: 00795541       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 17:10 [153] I was the first person to ask if RIHC/AAA/AA was on this year after the NBA agreed on a deal. I was second signing into the yahoo group, fourth to sign into draftime, and first to send cj a random list (which was ignored). People taking their time to get ready for the draft are just as responsible for the draft not starting on time as people during the draft not picking on the time. Days were lost in fact, not hours. [160] See my previous post on setting 14 player queues. Picking a pair of people at the ends of snake drafts is much different than being in the middle of the order. 162 weykool       ID: 1611471811       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 17:22 [160] See my previous post on setting 14 player queues. Picking a pair of people at the ends of snake drafts is much different than being in the middle of the order. Bullshyt. There are plenty of ways around this. You could have asked anyone to call you after your 7th pick and instructed them what pick to make for you for pick #8. If this was your 1st and 2nd pick I could buy, it but not the 7th and 8th pick. 163 mc5huffl35       Leader       ID: 00795541       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 17:42 [162] See post [137] about zero cellphone allowance at work. I am not connected to the internet 24 hours a day by a laptop/cellphone/wifi device like a robot. Also, please be my guest and next year sign up to be the 1st or 12th pick for a RIHC/AAA/AA draft. Set 14 player queues for your picks each round. Let's see how successful you will be. Good luck with that. 164 twolves       ID: 104481913       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 18:11 Weykool-- I agree with McShuffle as that position is the hardest to pick from ques. Each double choice may be more critical since not picking for 22 more picks--ie a bad pick is really compounded. To me it is like making 2 bad picks--if you are middle rounds still get another makeup pick in 12 to make up. Despite all the analysis not likely to be able to predict who people will take. If your top picks are there fine but it seldom works that way. I find ques hard to autopick even 2 or three picks ahead unless I had flat out dummies picking ahead of me--ie I would be happy to take the first 15 picks and let others figure it out after that. 165 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 18:24 So either way you slice any of this ..bad time of year and again Bean is taking the 4 hour clock and will nto have made a pick....will essentually get skipped...no EXCUSES ....this time ! So what do we have...another CASE of NO QUE ! ! ! Bean was in here makign a post at Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 13:35 AND.....did not make a que! Folks it is simply unacceptable to argue not having a Que and come tomorrow it is going to be a 2 hour Que....this draft will get done by Thursday night I assure you of that. Get on board or miss your picks. Realize that the missed picks are those that did not set up a Que hours before. I Left my house for 3 hours today and I set up a Que and got Caron Butler ! Are you kidding me...what a gift! Oh and I did not stall out the whole DRAFT process for three hours either. Please get on board with having a que....I actually now regret not starting off with a 4 hour Que right off the bat.....but I was believing in us getting on a role and finishing this in a matter of days......not getting stuck on 4 hours of dead picks twice a day and then the player getting skipped in the end. 166 Tosh       Leader       ID: 057721710       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 18:27 If someone opts to take slot #1 or #12 ... that should certainly be with the understanding that you have a long wait between picks ... and have to be prepared with queues created. If someone gets stuck with the #12 slot ... I have a lot more leniency and patience. Nice to see we've lost another entire afternoon waiting. I think that when I leave town on Thursday, I'm going to turn on my 90-player queue with a 239 minute delay. Then I can be part of the club. 167 mc5huffl35       Leader       ID: 00795541       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 18:38 I will pick what I think what will help me win, which is kind of the point of all this. 168 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 18:39 No Tosh you are going to have the draft completed. Do you think we want to take this into the Holiday weekend regardless if we are on vacation or not..SET QUE's or you are going to get skipped. The 4 hour is being abused and a 2 Hour is going to be in place ASAP. After Bean I am going with a 2 hour clock. We are making a 9th pick in a draft....really you have go to know who you dislike and who you like. Place them in a Que. 169 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 18:41 Tosh...also in the event this does not get done....DOUBT that though......I know someone that will take your login info and do you right. Someone not in this league of course. 170 bean       ID: 010343019       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 19:02 I am on mountain time, i accept that i did not have a queue and suffer the penalty lets move on from this issue 171 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 19:02 mc5huffl35 Nice Pick ! ! ! Lots of upside at this point int he draft. That is if he gets hungry again to win and stays healthy. Hated to see Douglas go as well...with Billups gone no brainier. 172 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 19:04 170 Yes moving on.....but it is a waste of 4 hours each time....I have moved the clock to two hours and we will move on from there. I again strongly suggest a que of some sort so you at least get someone and not a player after several more picks have gone by. 173 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 20:02 Coldwater I hope you are around because in about 1:15 minutes you will need to make a pick. 174 twolves       Dude       ID: 811161317       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 20:03 CJ, Do you control the clock or does the site do that for us? It would be nice if Bean would let us know his status. Is he not getting email to alert him? I know I had to go through some changes to get notified as had to reenter info as Kafenitid material did not carry over even though signed in. I was not notified until 3rd round but did figure it out finally. 175 Tosh       Leader       ID: 057721710       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 20:10 Post 170 was 2 minutes before Bean's current pick 10.03 came up. He already has a skipped pick, and the clock has been running for over an hour. Are you even paying attention bean? 176 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 20:21 174 Bean was in here Post 170 time: Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 19:02 Already could have made a pick #106) on his missed pick instantly...Point #1 Point #2: He was on the clock for pick #111 2 minutes after his post in here. YOU TELL ME? Where did Bean go? I do not know nor can I continue to express getting a QUE ! But I do know one thing is for sure....the time will remain 2 hour and I set that in the system. If we need to go to an Hour then we may have to do that. One person has used 10 hours of clock time and not made one pick on time as of yet for today. I have used 3 hours of TOTAL Clock time this whole draft. Anyone feeling me here? Goldcouch has used a total of 49 minutes clock time the whole draft. 177 weykool       ID: 1611471811       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 20:23 #164. If he knew he had a problem with internet access at work then why did he select the 12th pick when the 7th pick was available? Does his work not permit him to use a cell phone during lunch? The excuses are becoming pathetic. Any number of people at this site would have offered to help out with a minimum of planning. The real frustration is toward Bean getting another clock when he posted here but couldnt be bothered to set a queue. And now the rest of us are being penalized with a 2 hour clock for his lack of courtesy. 178 bean       ID: 010343019       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 20:28 look guys i hit the refresh button on my browser, it did not update for I dont know why, i did not know it was my pick. sorry for the delays, have been busy today and cannot set a queue. 179 mc5huffl35       Leader       ID: 00795541       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 20:32 [177] I picked 12th because I wanted it over 7th. Work is 9 hours. No break. No cellphones. Do I like it? No. 180 coldwater coyotes       SuperDude       ID: 229272412       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 20:51 Goldcoach.. Why did you take Ed Davis one pick before me???? CJ.. What time does the clock start again in the morinings? 181 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 20:54 Stops at : 1 am ET - 8 am ET (Daytime, 7 Hours) If it needs to be changed I can do so upon request. 182 Addicted       ID: 5911161320       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 20:55 CJ, We're even now. You just to my sleeper Landry Fields. -- Addicted -- 183 twolves       Dude       ID: 811161317       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 21:03 MOving on to another topic. I assume the decision has been made to hae 16 person draft and team with no IR or is that open to discussion? How long is the initial waiver period? I hope not to use that. I assume McShuffle would have 1st priority on waiver claims and reverse first round order would apply to prioority? 184 mc5huffl35       Leader       ID: 00795541       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 21:04 Another reason to pick 12th. 185 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 21:25 ha ha ha If over half of the league wants to have the IR slot then I am hand cuffed but I personally and 100% against that. I can not stand tracking it and then having to drop a player that was on IR but now played...a game later you now have to place him back on IR and then pick up another player because you just created that roster spot that you had to drop when that player came off the IR for that one game before going back on IR...Sound confusing...YA That is my point. Real easy .......16 roster spots have all the IR players you want and no one has to watch if your IR player is no longer on IR and you having to choose to drop someone. It is Open but I am one Vote against an IR slot I experienced the No shackles freedom last year. Plan to never go back to that. 186 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 21:27 Addicted we have the same players in our Que's I think.......................other than Hump and J Rich I have cringed when you take the top guy in my Que. Stop it! I have my next 6 guys I want to end up on my team....lets see how many of those end up on yours....LOL 187 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 21:41 Setting Value League ID#: 71641 League Name: RIHC AAA#1 2011-2012 Password: 2011rihc Custom League URL: http://basketball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/league/rihcaaa1201112 Draft Type: Offline Draft Max Teams: 12 Scoring Type: Rotisserie Max Moves: No maximum Max Trades: No maximum Trade Reject Time: 2 Trade End Date: March 8, 2012 Allow Draft Pick Trades: No Waiver Time: 1 day Waiver Type: Continual rolling list Can't Cut List Provider: Yahoo! Sports Trade Review: League Votes Post Draft Players: Follow Waiver Rules Max Games Played: 68 Weekly Deadline: Daily - Today Start Scoring on: Sunday, Dec 25 Make League Publicly Viewable: No Roster Positions: PG, SG, G, G, SF, PF, F, F, C, C, Util, Util, BN, BN, BN, BN Players Stat Categories: Field Goal Percentage (FG%), Free Throw Percentage (FT%), 3-point Shots Made (3PTM), Points Scored (PTS), Total Rebounds (REB), Assists (AST), Steals (ST), Blocked Shots (BLK) 188 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 21:48 JasonProf Just in case you are in here but your refresh is not working you are up for two picks and it would be great if the next two picks kill the evening. 189 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 21:51 Don't Kill the rest of the evening. I really think the 2 hour clock will take us to the finish line by Thursday evening and once I make it to my parents and place the little ones in bed I will get Yahoo Finalized and activate the league then you can all make all the changes you want in FA, set lineups, and find any possible errors. 190 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 23:04 I checked with Guru...I was not supposed to allow the double clocks for those on the ends of the snake. I do not think it is something I can adjust now so Jason will get lucky that he is the guy next to his own pick so he actually gets a 4 hour clock. Guess we will see tomorrow what he eventually picks I am off to bed been up late last two nights hitting the darn refresh for no reason. Good night guys. 191 Goldcoach       ID: 331042822       Wed, Dec 21, 2011, 06:55 Coldwater,(re 180) Just think of it as payback fo your grabbing AI2 off the top of my queue. 192 twolves       Dude       ID: 811161317       Wed, Dec 21, 2011, 08:43 Sorry about the delay this Am but I had my three top picks go off the board while I was sleeping so had to do a bit of research and analysis for the pick. I guess my pick did not make much difference as it appears everyone was lurking already. Hopefully things will move quickly today. 193 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Wed, Dec 21, 2011, 09:34 7 picks in 11 minuets ....why because we all had Que's going. Some instant some not...still very easy to do. Concern? We are on the end of the snake and now an hour has past on a 2 hour clock. And the setting which I can not change are stuck so he gets an actual 4 hours. I have to run out for a bit but I plan on skipping his second pick to move forward. Not allowing one person to waste two picks time today. You guys may hate me but this is a LIVE DRAFT and with so many of us paying close attention and being aware of when the next pick is..... I can not afford to have all that go to the wayside over 4 hour period of no picks. The rule is at the end of the snakes you only get the ONE clock of time.....I just messed up when starting the draft not choosing that option. Really thought it would not even come into play at the time. I am working local today so I may check back at some point but otherwise I have a 14 player Que set on INSTANT. 194 twolves       ID: 104481913       Wed, Dec 21, 2011, 12:07 I see Mcshuffle missed his picks but did not get the benefit of the extra slot time as has been given others during this draft which I think is unfair as the draft was eseentially caught up. 195 Addicted       ID: 5410532812       Wed, Dec 21, 2011, 12:39 twolves are you making your pick? --Addicted-- 196 Tosh       Leader       ID: 057721710       Wed, Dec 21, 2011, 12:46 twolves - I've been waffling between two guys for a couple hours. I wish you would have taken one to make my choice easier!! 197 twolves       ID: 104481913       Wed, Dec 21, 2011, 12:53 I keep getting my picks sucked up in front of me. It does get hard here to make choices and try to anticipate needs. My draft has been pretty helter skelter as I have not been anticipating well. I did pause intentionally to see if Mcshuffle would have filled the spot even though it might have affected my choice but was waffling on 3 at the time. You could do that and he might solve your problem. Unfortunately work starts shortly. 198 mc5huffl35       Leader       ID: 00795541       Wed, Dec 21, 2011, 13:09 Wake up at 9am and see another 9 picks taken past me. Jasonprof had 2 clocks on the end of the snake last night during "prime time". No stink about that though. For the xth time, you have switched settings during a draft and given little to no warning. You might as well switch it now for the next guy's pick to 15 minutes on another whim. Or add a WNBA player to our rosters just for some extra added fun. Why didn't I set a queue? Because I planned on waking up at 9am and knew I wouldn't miss a clock and waste time. This draft, and commish running it, has been bush league from the start. 199 Tosh       Leader       ID: 057721710       Wed, Dec 21, 2011, 15:03 40 picks until my final (round 16) pick. I have a 40-man queue. It will be turned on for auto-pick before I leave town. Thanks to CJ for keeping things going, and getting the lineups entered into Yahoo in a timely matter. Much appreciated! Merry Xmas & Happy New Year! 200 weykool       ID: 1611471811       Wed, Dec 21, 2011, 15:13 Why didn't I set a queue? Because I planned on waking up at 9am and knew I wouldn't miss a clock and waste time. What is bush league is you continually treating the clock like its your own personal right to delay 11 other managers. I have zero sympathy for you missing a pick when you refuse to set a queue. CJ you are doing a fantastic job moving the draft along. Keep up the good work. 201 Goldcoach       ID: 331042822       Wed, Dec 21, 2011, 15:45 Hey Mc5! Bass was supposed to make it back to me. I think he's going to get plenty of run in a compressed season and on an aging roster. Good Pick! 202 Goldcoach       ID: 331042822       Wed, Dec 21, 2011, 15:48 G-Dan Thats another one right off my queue, how am I supposed to compete if you guys keep taking my guys? 203 mc5huffl35       Leader       ID: 00795541       Wed, Dec 21, 2011, 15:56 So you agree with switching the clock from four hours to two with no notice. It's my own personal right to sleep at a normal hour and not change my entire schedule around just to make some picks in a fantasy draft. There's nothing in the rules that says I have to set a queue for every single pick. I knew I had four hours and suddenly it was two during the wee hours of the morning. After, as twolves pointed out, we were already caught up. Classic east coast bias. 204 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Wed, Dec 21, 2011, 16:51 Sorry ...I have been gone all day ...amazing my Que lasted 3 picks! WOW! Great Job....... I am amazed at how many picks got done today. I will move what else we get drafted tonight and have it all entered into Yahoo by Morning. Then when the last pick is done I can finish the transfer to Yahoo and have it available to all of you as soon as I can. Make sure to look over your team and let me know of any mistakes. 205 mc5huffl35       Leader       ID: 00795541       Wed, Dec 21, 2011, 16:51 I have zero sympathy for you missing a pick when you refuse to set a queue. I have zero respect for you condoning a double standard. Last night someone was given four hours instead of two, yet I wasn't, simply because I'm on the west coast and the commissioner gets all wet over 7 picks in 11 minutes. If I was awake and at my computer I would have been part of 9 picks in 12 minutes. 206 weykool       ID: 1611471811       Wed, Dec 21, 2011, 17:10 I dont condone a double standard. I posted the rules at #136. The commish made the change after Guru confirmed the original error. You had every opportunity to set a queue before you went to bed. YOUR decision to milk the clock because you were too lazy to set a queue is 100% on you. You guy cleaned out my queue so I will be making a pick shortly. 207 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Wed, Dec 21, 2011, 17:14 mc5huffl35 & twolves the rules state that even though you are on the end of the Snake you do not get any more time than any of the other draftees. In fact mc5huffl35 got OVER 2 hours which is more than anyone. But it still was not enough. One out of 12 does not get 4 hours and the rest get 2 hours. The 2 hour clock was set a day ago so we all should have been in tune to what your time frame was. To continue not to set a Que and then continue to miss your pick time again and again then blame the commish for getting your picks missed. To think you went to bed not setting a Que and thinking you had double the time over the rest of us. That also tells me something....that you were knowingly going to HOLD up the whole draft so you could sleep in till 9 am Pacific time? Another though.....when you go to bed LAST or was after us on the east coast........you can clearly see how far you are away form having to make a pick. The Draft stopped before you went to bed. Knowing your pick is going to be in the morning and you are headed off to bed with no thoughts of holding up the draft? There were 7 picks made from a Que ahead of you in a matter of 11 Minuets........That my friend is what we have been screaming about this whole process.......protect yourself and make a Que or Set an alarm and be ready and on STANDBY for yourself. This could happen anytime in the draft...there could be 10 picks in 10 minutes....and everyone would be prepared for this. You have to make sure your cover yourself...make a Que. 208 mc5huffl35       Leader       ID: 00795541       Wed, Dec 21, 2011, 17:22 Did he communicate the change? No. All he said was he doesn't think he can change it. Had he communicated the change, I would have adjusted, made my pick earlier, making the clock and not causing the world to end. 209 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Wed, Dec 21, 2011, 17:32 You should have wanted to make your pick and keep the draft moving ...Instead you want 4 hours to wind down before you make your pick...WHY...SET A QUE! 210 mc5huffl35       Leader       ID: 00795541       Wed, Dec 21, 2011, 17:37 Why have a live draft at all then? Let's all make long lists of pre-ranked players and have the computer autopick a draft for us. Fun! 211 Tosh       Leader       ID: 057721710       Wed, Dec 21, 2011, 17:44 Personally, I enjoy making queue picks. It's like Christmas morning every pick. It's a new surprise every time I log in. 212 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Wed, Dec 21, 2011, 22:05 Ha Ha Ha Yep Glad to see I got Miller. He was first in my Que and lasted 9 rounds. Although Addicted and Weykool continue to exhaust the rest of my Que ! ! ! 213 weykool       ID: 1611471811       Wed, Dec 21, 2011, 22:22 Isnt Miller out for the season? 214 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Wed, Dec 21, 2011, 22:33 Ha Ha Ha I did not think he was. Although I have not heard anything about a return either? How long before you can return from a Hernia Surgery? Yahoo talks like he could return soon. "F Mike Miller is working his way back from preseason surgery for a sports hernia. He also underwent offseason shoulder and thumb surgeries. If he stays healthy, he would be a big boost to the Heat's versatility. (Yahoo! Sports)" What can we Draw from that? 215 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Thu, Dec 22, 2011, 01:05 WOW Clippers are insane ! ! ! My Boy Butler looking Great ! ! ! 216 mc5huffl35       Leader       ID: 00795541       Thu, Dec 22, 2011, 01:19 That round 15 autopick on queue was just for you weykool. 217 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Thu, Dec 22, 2011, 01:29 You referring to Mario pick? As soon as this is done I hope some time tomorrow I will give access to Yahoo. I think it is important to be able to adjust rosters...drop players add players...ect... 218 twolves       Dude       ID: 811161317       Thu, Dec 22, 2011, 08:37 CJ--I have issues with you about this draft. You keep drafting the player at the top of my que on the even rounds at least 4 times. It is happening way too frequently and am wondering if you have been peeking at my que somehow. It may take a bit for this last pick. 219 weykool       ID: 1611471811       Thu, Dec 22, 2011, 09:55 Im sure Miller is fine. I just didnt think someone should be that exuberant about a 15th round draft pick. 220 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Thu, Dec 22, 2011, 11:47 218 Seriously? I hope you are joking! I have not been present for my picks since the first few rounds. Gone and sometimes like yesterday Three picks made the whole time i was not on the PC. I make my Que with my hit list of players and I roll with what I need to do that day. Sorry but I am very confident in who I want and who I like in the NBA and I do not need to PEEK at someone else to make my own decisions. I guess I should accuse Weykool and Addicted of the same huh...because you know they seem to take the top of my Que. SERIOUSLY ! REALLY ! Tell you what you tell me when you suspect this and I will provide time lines of where I was at and when this way you can sleep at night knowing I did not PEEK to see who I wanted to draft next. It is not like we each have the same likes or values. OKay Lets see............ Stoudamire....sorry I was so lucky to have him go to Pick #18 Are you kidding...Did I peek to understand that was a NO BRAINER of a PICK! Next in your crazy accusation.....Noah, Joakim #42 I had Martin Tops my list for this pick and then followed by Manu and Bosh.....I made a QUE and was not even present when you were up to pick...Plus how can I even view your Que unless you make it available? Next is Pick #66 I got Conley...not sure about him but I had him in my Que...I really thought I would get Jason Kidd at this pick and it was very disappointing to see him and my second choice David West go bye bye right in front of my pick. Takes us to Pick #90 Afflalo, Arron Really...this was a guy you had on your Que and I picked him because I knew you wanted him. Hec I should have taken Calderon but risked him to go another round...Got Burnt there as well. Really I think I will stop at this point. I look through Yahoo read about players and make a Que.....I think that is the lowest post of this forum to think I need to peek at your list of picks....Did you even have a QUE? Ridiculous. You should volunteer to commish next year ! By the way I would trade Fields for Rubio ....you up for that? Next Shawn Marion versus Rip Hamilton...wanna trade that too. Now comes Fredette, Jimmer...I stole him from you too? Then you picked a Center? Really what did you exactly need at the #164th pick? Last is T Prince...sorry he had been on my radar for the last 3 rounds. I am assuming I have covered all of the rounds where I picked before you....so where or which ones did I steal or Peek and get the correct answer for my pick again? 221 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Thu, Dec 22, 2011, 11:50 219....ha ha ha I just think when he plays and starts with them he can be a fantasy stat collector. Maybe not points but good % 3's and boards. I hope to see him back soon and collect. I mean Pick #175 ya I am feeling good. And that one was my own pick...I did not have to peek at anyone's Que to decided who to take ! 222 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Thu, Dec 22, 2011, 11:57 All - Yahoo is OPEN to View your Team ! I have started the season in Yahoo. I hope I got everything correct....but be sure to let me know ASAP if you see an error. 223 gurudan       ID: 5811162211       Thu, Dec 22, 2011, 12:17 cj yahoo gave me a james anderson SA instead of chris anderson center DEN. please fix it for me or if he's still available i'll swap out sat. nite. thanx dan 224 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Thu, Dec 22, 2011, 12:39 223 Done and that was Not Yahoo...that was my mistake. I entered the picks manually. 225 twolves       ID: 4211522211       Thu, Dec 22, 2011, 12:52 CJ--This is fantasy--a game--please do not take things so seriously--I assumed you would figure out I was making fun of the situation of trying to hurry up the draft and using ques and the stress and frustration of drafting players--not even adding the time of year this is. Everyone has people picked ahead of them that they want and you did indeed do that to me multiple times which was frustrating particularly in mid and late rounds. I know you are trying to to do the best job you can in a busy season and I appreciate it. If I was worried I would have not loaded my que ahead. HOwever, it was on personal pick except the 15th round which was on auto pick that I later regretted but had no choice at this time of year when out shopping with the wife. How long is the waiver period before changes can be made. I assume the standard so, those with priority can choose first. Thanks for comissioning. 226 twolves       ID: 4211522211       Thu, Dec 22, 2011, 13:17 What I meant to ask about the waiver period is when does it start initally--today? or tomorrow? If today--the claim would go through and you would get them tomorrow but that is not 24 hours yet and all others would be free agents then? or would waiver claims settle after Friday night to give everyone a chance to have good look. Also when can a waiver claim player be used as they usually cannot be used that same day player awarded on Yahoo(ie not until the following day). I though last year it might have been possible to use them right away. Just want to know how that will work but 2 day waiver period. Is everyone using a 24 hr. waiver period. If not is that open to discussion? Since it is a 24 hour period when does that start for a player dropped. It is important for everyone to have a fair chance to view dropped players as not always able to check in multiple times per day. I would vote against the 24 hour in favor of 48 hours if the 24 hour time clock is based on arbitrary time--24 hour clock starts at same time each day so a player dropped 7:00pm would be free agent next day rather able to be claimed for at least 24 hours--24 hours or more (until the waiver deadline for a given day is). I assume the latter is the way Yahoo works. If so what is the deadline time when the all waivers for given day get settled. 227 twolves       ID: 351162215       Thu, Dec 22, 2011, 16:13 Ignosre my last posts about waiver period--Looking at the site questions have been answered since inital claims do not settle until 24th. So a 24 hour waiver is actually 24+ hours. Thanks 228 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Thu, Dec 22, 2011, 22:00 I just go to my destination and will look into your question. My hopes would be we are in full FA right now. No need for waivers. 229 twolves       Dude       ID: 811161317       Thu, Dec 22, 2011, 22:14 CJ, NO need to change waivers as they stand now is what I assume you mean--not that there are no waivers at all. I am fine with that after looking at the waiver period for all the unclaimed players. and they will all become true free agents if no one puts in a claim prior to the 24th. All dropped players subject to waivers after that. 230 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Thu, Dec 22, 2011, 22:51 I have no problem either way I feel they all should be FA right now. Why have to wait till Sat? 231 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Thu, Dec 22, 2011, 23:25 Especially for you Karen....Lopez out for up to 12 weeks...WOW what a blow. 232 twolves       Dude       ID: 811161317       Fri, Dec 23, 2011, 00:31 I would say the season has not even started and I am in trouble already. I do not think I can find anyone to replace him esecially the points and blocks which was the idea of the pick. IF he might play half the season probably have to hold him which really limits some options. Did I say I was in favor of IR earlier? With new rules will have to look at options. I think for all dropped players a waiver period would be good to allow people to have a fair chance to pick up player. It might be interesting to have the waiver priority after the season starts have the lowest ranking team have top priority rather when the last waiver claim was made? 233 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Fri, Dec 23, 2011, 09:55 Not having the IR slot actually gives you MORE Bench spots. It has not been a rule change and it does not make a difference other than all others still have a roster spot. You better get all over the FA and I assure you there will be a person or two out there that place up stellar numbers to help your team. Keep a Close eye and start scoping ....I know a person right now in FA that could help you. Not telling though. 234 mc5huffl35       Leader       ID: 00795541       Sun, Dec 25, 2011, 14:09 Nice comeback from Boston in the 3rd. I'm liking how Bass looks with Rondo revving up the o. 235 twolves       Dude       ID: 811161317       Mon, Dec 26, 2011, 13:37 Interesting start to season for a couple of teams with last minute losses. Actually in short season it may be worse with an injured player you feel you need to hold as it limits your flex to get a few specialists as needed--granted I could drop him and hope no one picks him up for a while. I agree 16 makes it easier to monitor. I think legitimate IR allowed a more level playing field--as it is--15 vs. 16 for probably half the season looks a bit slippery to me. I think it particularly limits taking a rookie or young player with potential who might or might not produce initially. Hope everyone is having a good holiday season. Good luck to everyone and the Timberwolves this year. 236 twolves       Dude       ID: 811161317       Fri, Dec 30, 2011, 19:10 CJ Do you want to start a new thread either for draft recap thoughts or season thread as this one is pretty long already? 237 Goldcoach       ID: 331042822       Sat, Dec 31, 2011, 12:49 Has anyone figured out the max games stats yet. I'm thinking the formula is still geared for an 82 game season. 238 weykool       ID: 1611471811       Sat, Dec 31, 2011, 18:37 The formula is messed up. After the first day I had zero games at PG and I was "on pace for 80 games". Perhaps it would be something Guru could add to the basketball stats? I will probably do something in Excel to make up my own formula but wouldnt have anywhere to keep it updated for everyone. 239 weykool       ID: 1611471811       Sat, Dec 31, 2011, 19:07 By the end of today it will have been 7 days out of a 120 day season. Figure about 4 games per week: GP PACE O/U 3 51 -17 4 69 1 5 86 18 6 103 35 7 120 52 8 137 69 240 Goldcoach       ID: 331042822       Sun, Jan 01, 2012, 16:14 I'll try my hand at working out an actual (games played)- (games left to play) on excell as well. Its just easier (at least it used to be) to use the yahoo chart. Oh well; at least we are playing! 241 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Tue, Jan 03, 2012, 11:21 I would imagine now that the season has started we should see Yahoo clean this up soon. 242 CJ       Leader       ID: 499271021       Thu, Jan 05, 2012, 07:41 I did start a Chatter thread if anyone is interested in talking smack in there. 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