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Subject: RIHC AAA-ESPN 2012-13 Preseason Discussion
Posted by: Pacers Rule
- Leader [910311210] Fri, Oct 05, 2012, 02:20
Welcome to a FULL SEASON of some of the finest fantasy hoops competition on the planet. Email invites have been sent out to all of you AAA eligible managers who indicated a preference for ESPN and the rest of you who caught a lucky or unlucky break, depending on your love of endless Pacers references and low-ball trade offers. DPR has already signed in. Nice!
Please change your email address on the team settings page of the team tab to your preferred account if it's not the one already entered in there. Let me know if you didn't get the invite. Perhaps I have a typo in your email address.
To get things rolling, I need two managers to email me 'random' lists of the numbers 1 - 12. You know the drill. Our starting list will be our ESPN team #'s and we'll change that order twice based on the number lists received to determine who gets first and next picks of where they want their position to be in our snake draft.
simplified example:
For a starting order of
Team A
Team B
Team C
and lists received 1) 2-3-1 and 2) 1-3-2. The first set of numbers changes the order like this
Team A (Team A => Position 2)
Team B (Team B => Position 3)
Team C (Team C => Position 1)
so the intermediary order becomes
Team C
Team A
Team B
The second list of numbers changes the intermediary order in the same way to the final order of
Team C
Team B
Team A
Of course then Team C would get to choose first which draft position he wants, followed by Team B picking from the two remaining spots.
We'll draft at draftime.com along with the other RIHC leagues, but it's not set up for hoops drafts yet. When it's ready, I'll email everyone details to join the draft. Of course we'll have per pick and cumulative clocks as in years past, with the overnight pause being 1 am to 8 am EDT if that sounds ok to most. Obviously, use of queues will be essential to keep the draft moving.
I'd like to start the draft clock Saturday or Sunday, Oct. 20 or 21, but we can start it without a clock before that once the draft is set up if we like. Guru projects 7 to 8 days to complete the draft so I'm thinking this is about as late as we can start and be comfortably done in time. Please let me know asap if anyone will be unavailable for any length of time during the draft.
I'm willing to police the traditional IS designations, so I've set up the ESPN league for the three bench slots we will draft and the two others we will use only when we have IS eligible players as per RIHC tradition. For a review on the basic IS rules, check here. I probably will check rosters every Sunday and additionally as I have time. When I become aware of an issue I will email the manager involved via the ESPN league mechanism and the manager will have 48 hours to rectify the situation. Any games played with a noncompliant roster are subject to nullification at commissioner discretion. Feel free to alert me if you feel there is an issue with any roster, especially mine.
Please post in our league discussion thread any IS adds (and drops) for your team to help me monitor rosters. Drafted IS eligible players allow you to pick up a replacement immediately after the draft once undrafted players clear waivers, but please see the rules on using IS for subsequently added players.
That's about all I can think of for now. Please let me know if any of you have any concerns, schedule issues, or suggestions. Keep things positive and lets have fun! Bonus points for the most posts, funniest posts, and best trash talkers. Best of luck to all! |
| 1 | Great One
ID: 2431114
Fri, Oct 05, 2012, 09:32
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I'll email you some numbers.
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| 2 | Pacers Rule
ID: 4391511
Fri, Oct 05, 2012, 12:01
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2 valid sets of numbers received. Got one early this morning that didn't meet criteria, so disregarding that one.
I received GO's numbers @ 9:33 am. I received the second conforming set @ 10:01 am from Alan Stewart so we are good to go. I don't have time at lunch to complete the sort so I'll have to keep you all in suspense until tonight.
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| 3 | Pacers Rule
ID: 4391511
Fri, Oct 05, 2012, 12:09
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and by Alan Stewart, I mean Toral. Thanks gents. Can't access the ESPN site through work filters. You'd think they'd let government employees play fantasy basketball at lunch for crying out loud.
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| 4 | Pacers Rule
Leader
ID: 910311210
Fri, Oct 05, 2012, 18:52
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And here it is:
Team Position Position
after after
sort 1 sort 2
12 1 1
5 6 2
6 12 3
1 10 4
7 7 5
11 9 6
2 3 7
4 5 8
3 11 9
10 2 10
9 8 11
8 4 12
...meaning the colunm on the left is the order we will pick our draft positions.
GO can verify how we got from column one to column 2, and Toral's set then took us to column 3.
So here's the order we will pick our draft positions:
1. Gmoney
2. Goldcoach
3. Raj
4. Pacers Rule
5. ywk
6. stramonio
7. Jaydog
8. Great One
9. Toral
10. Donkey Hunter
11. dpr
12. maspero
Let her rip whenever you are ready. No hurry.
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| 5 | Great One
ID: 2431114
Mon, Oct 08, 2012, 11:20
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Should we email everyone so they know to pick their draft position?
Are we using draftime?
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| 6 | Pacers Rule
ID: 4391511
Mon, Oct 08, 2012, 12:29
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I see my opening post was too long to read the details :-)
For some reason I assume people will know to check this thread. However, Gmoney has been emailed so he should know he's "up". With preseason just starting and almost two weeks to the start of our draft, I don't want to cajole folks too much other than to join the league and join the draft on draftime (the password you will need is on the ESPN league news page), as we have some time yet. I know I don't know which spot I want yet. There's an outside chance I would even entertain an offer to trade down.
I could post a link to this page in the RIHC QL thread.
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| 8 | Gmoney
ID: 229141022
Wed, Oct 10, 2012, 23:42
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I will go with the #1 spot
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| 9 | Goldcoach
Leader
ID: 9228209
Thu, Oct 11, 2012, 06:07
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1. Gmoney
2. Goldcoach
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
Raj is up
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| 10 | Raj
ID: 35927127
Fri, Oct 12, 2012, 08:31
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I will go with #3 spot
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| 11 | Pacers Rule
ID: 21932618
Fri, Oct 12, 2012, 17:51
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1. Gmoney
2. Goldcoach
3. Raj
4.
5. Pacers Rule
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
ywk is up.
Whoever takes the sixth and seventh spots.....they will probably come with them the option to trade me for the fifth spot starting in round 3...or depending on round 1...even in round 1.
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| 12 | ywk
ID: 49728142
Sun, Oct 14x, 2012, 22:00
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1. Gmoney
2. Goldcoach
3. Raj
4. YWK
5. Pacers Rule
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
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| 13 | Great One
ID: 512531316
Mon, Oct 15, 2012, 00:03
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1 person picking every two days seems reasonable. Hopefully we keep that pace up during the real draft. It'll be a really a enjoyable process.
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| 14 | Goldcoach
Leader
ID: 9228209
Mon, Oct 15, 2012, 05:59
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GO...I'll respond to that tomorrow..or the next day
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| 15 | Great One
ID: 2431114
Mon, Oct 15, 2012, 10:06
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I was gonna wait 2 more days to LOL that... but why not break protocol and go same day!
Maybe we can get an email chain going around and it would be a bit quicker? I sent Toral a que last week cause I was only a few away. not sure why i bothered.
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| 16 | Pacers Rule
ID: 34948716
Mon, Oct 15, 2012, 16:34
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It was my intention to be pretty relaxed about the pace of the pre-draft activities. However, I agree, the pace is bordering on apathetic. I have emailed folks to remind them when there was a delay on their pick, so I would welcome everyone emailing the next guy up when they make their pick to help keep things moving.
We finally have everyone registered for Kafenatid - I mean draftime.com - and Guru has graciously paid for the draft fee, so we're good to go there.
If we need one, we could go to a clock on the remaining draft order spots to make sure we get it in. If we start the draft clock Sunday and open the draft untimed on Saturday, we need to have this done by Friday and that means 6 picks in four days.
If we want a clock, I'd say let's have the overnight pause of 1 am to 8 am EDT same as the draft and maybe go 8 hour clocks to ensure we get it done but avoid skipping someone unnecessarily. Thoughts? Opinions? We should start it tomorrow morning to give everyone sufficient notice.
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| 17 | dpr
ID: 9513258
Mon, Oct 15, 2012, 17:12
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I realize it doesnt really work out this way, but the point of a snake draft is to make all slots equal. Given this, if someone takes too long and we skip them they dont miss out on much (like they would if we skipped them in the early rounds of the draft) so I don't think you should feel bad about doing it.
Friday seems to be a good goal
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| 18 | Pacers Rule
ID: 589131312
Mon, Oct 15, 2012, 22:08
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Hearing just one comment about going to a clock to get things moving, and it being in support, we will begin 8 hour clocks at 8 am Eastern. Email notices have been sent out. The clock will pause at 1 am each night and resume @ 8 am. We should be done on Friday or before.
I'd like to prepare the draft and open it up on Saturday, and start the draft clock Sunday @ 2 pm.
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| 19 | stramonio
ID: 0713297
Tue, Oct 16, 2012, 03:39
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i'll go with pick number 6
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| 20 | Pacers Rule
ID: 34948716
Tue, Oct 16, 2012, 08:43
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1. Gmoney
2. Goldcoach
3. Raj
4. YWK
5. Pacers Rule
6. Stramonio
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
Jaydog has been emailed and will time out at 4 pm. Jaydog please email GO (not that he'll need it) when you make your pick.
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| 21 | Donkey Hunter
ID: 09201620
Tue, Oct 16, 2012, 21:20
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So Jaydog timed out, Great One times out at midnight, and Toral times out at 3 pm est tomorrow? Meaning I can make my pick then?
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| 22 | Toral
ID: 424462011
Tue, Oct 16, 2012, 21:24
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The clock stops at 1 AM and resumes at 8 AM so I would time out at 10 AM. If I wasn't watching and waiting to pick like I have been all day that is.
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| 23 | Pacers Rule
ID: 34948716
Tue, Oct 16, 2012, 21:44
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[21] Correct. 8 hour clock. Pauses at 1 and resumes at 8 as stated [22]. Not sure why you would think you'd time out at 10 am Toral...you'd only be on the clock 3 hours at that point if GO also times out.
Obviously, the actual draft clock will not be 8 hours per pick.
FWIW, I expect GO to pick by 11:59. I'll be surprised if he doesn't.
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| 24 | Great One
ID: 512531316
Tue, Oct 16, 2012, 21:50
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got it, thanks...
Draft Order
1. Gmoney
2. Goldcoach
3. Raj
4. YWK
5. Pacers Rule
6. Stramonio
7.
8.
9.
10. Great One
11.
12.
Still to pick... Toral up technically.
7. Jaydog
9. Toral
10. Donkey Hunter
11. dpr
12. maspero
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| 25 | Toral
ID: 424462011
Tue, Oct 16, 2012, 21:56
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Draft Order
1. Gmoney
2. Goldcoach
3. Raj
4. YWK
5. Pacers Rule
6. Stramonio
7.Toral
8.
9.
10. Great One
11.
12.
Donkey Hunter is up.
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| 26 | Jaydog
ID: 45633109
Tue, Oct 16, 2012, 21:58
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Really sorry guys, totally missed this today. I promise I'll be better in the draft. I'll take the 8 Slot:
1. Gmoney
2. Goldcoach
3. Raj
4. YWK
5. Pacers Rule
6. Stramonio
7. Toral
8. Jaydog
9.
10. Great One
11.
12.
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| 27 | Donkey Hunter
ID: 09201620
Wed, Oct 17, 2012, 07:00
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1. Gmoney
2. Goldcoach
3. Raj
4. YWK
5. Pacers Rule
6. Stramonio
7. Toral
8. Jaydog
9.
10. Great One
11. Donkey Hunter
12.
dpr is up
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| 28 | dpr
ID: 9513258
Wed, Oct 17, 2012, 11:06
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1. Gmoney
2. Goldcoach
3. Raj
4. YWK
5. Pacers Rule
6. Stramonio
7. Toral
8. Jaydog
9. dpr
10. Great One
11. Donkey Hunter
12.maspero
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| 29 | Pacers Rule
ID: 34948716
Wed, Oct 17, 2012, 11:10
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Who knew? With no clock we made 5 picks in about 9 days....since an 8 hour clock was announced we've made 5 picks in just about a day and a half.
Let's hope the draft follows that pattern.
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| 30 | Pacers Rule
ID: 34948716
Wed, Oct 17, 2012, 11:41
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Make that 7 picks. Thanks for picking up the rest of us, guys.
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| 31 | Great One
ID: 2431114
Wed, Oct 17, 2012, 11:46
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So do we turn the draft on now with no clock and get Draftime underway?
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| 32 | Pacers Rule
ID: 589131312
Wed, Oct 17, 2012, 17:56
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My thought is to stick with opening it up Saturday morn. with clock starting Sunday. I had proposed 2:00 pm to start the clock but I'm open to other input. We have some international players in pretty different time zones. We need to decide on the clock lengths, both per pick and cumulative limits. I can check on past precedents for those. I'm open to starting with a longer per pick clock b/c the cumulative clock protects us from stops by one or two managers and missed picks in the early rounds are more costly which would be nice to avoid if an emergency or internet outage occurs.
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| 33 | Great One
ID: 512531316
Wed, Oct 17, 2012, 19:17
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I would personally open it more than a day before the clock... ideally you want everyone to get in and make one pick and get ques set up before the clock starts. We've already seen people aren't consistently checking in here, so hopefully that will change when they get the automated email, but you never know how attentive they will be.
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| 34 | Goldcoach
Leader
ID: 9228209
Wed, Oct 17, 2012, 20:40
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I would like to get it open so i cn start on my queues as I will not be avail Sat or Sun except possibly Sat pm.
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| 35 | Pacers Rule
ID: 34948716
Wed, Oct 17, 2012, 22:16
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I am fine with opening it up Friday night primarily for queue purposes if we are going to have availability issues over the weekend. I don't want to open it up before the main league starts.
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| 36 | Gmoney
ID: 179591814
Thu, Oct 18, 2012, 15:59
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Im good with sooner than later. I will be unavailable Sunday from 7am to 6pm central standard time so setting things up early would be nice
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| 37 | dpr
ID: 9513258
Fri, Oct 19, 2012, 08:40
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I am traveling without internet from Friday at around 4EST to Sunday at arounds 11AMEST. IF th draft is opened before then I c leave a first round queue, if not I will make ore first pick earl sunday, assuming there are no other snags
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| 38 | Gmoney
ID: 179591814
Fri, Oct 19, 2012, 09:50
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Less than 12 hours to draft time boys! Leaning 70/30 towards KD with pick 1
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| 39 | Pacers Rule
ID: 589131312
Fri, Oct 19, 2012, 14:53
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Opened draft with no clock to allow queues to be made. Pick at your leisure, or not.
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| 40 | Great One
ID: 2431114
Fri, Oct 19, 2012, 15:08
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You know, I feel like an idiot for not noting this before... but you can Pre-Rank a que (I did 200 players) without actually being a draft. Then once the draft starts you can import those rankings with one click.
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| 41 | Pacers Rule
ID: 589131312
Fri, Oct 19, 2012, 15:21
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Seems features change year to year.
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| 42 | Great One
ID: 2431114
Fri, Oct 19, 2012, 15:26
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yeah, I did one pre-rank and then imported the same list into multiple drafts. and you don't need the draft setup or a "live" draft to work on that list.
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| 43 | Gmoney
ID: 179591814
Fri, Oct 19, 2012, 17:15
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Took Durant. He doesn't look like he does knuckle push ups
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| 44 | Pacers Rule
ID: 34948716
Fri, Oct 19, 2012, 18:53
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Boy looks like a string bean. I wonder if he can bench his weight. On second thought, I wonder if I can still bench my weight.
Thinking about a 6 hour per pick clock to start with and a 12 hour cumulative clock. Looks like cumulative clock will need to be implemented manually as I don't see the feature available on draftime.
Thoughts?
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| 45 | Gmoney
ID: 4511101521
Fri, Oct 19, 2012, 20:10
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6 hours seems really long to me in the first 6 rounds unless time zones are an issue.
Looks like Goldcoach, dpr and myself all have some weekend conflicts but can set queues so things should be able to roll.
The other drafts are well on their way
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| 46 | Great One
ID: 512531316
Fri, Oct 19, 2012, 20:45
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I believe Draftime does count the cumulative time of your picks when you click on your team name and see all your picks. "Total Clock"
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| 47 | Pacers Rule
ID: 34948716
Fri, Oct 19, 2012, 21:50
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I'm not seeing a feature to set a cumulative clock limit however, so picks would not be automatically skipped on Draftime if someone exceeded their max clock. In that case, we would use the forum to post picks until I can manually move the draft along. Hopefully that issue does not arise.
6 hour clocks would not mean people should be taking six hours to make their picks - as long as they have internet access, they should be able to pick within a half hour or hour ideally. The longer clock is for if you are away from the computer or asleep when you come up on the clock and your queue is exhausted - to avoid getting your pick skipped in an emergency situation.
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| 48 | Gmoney
ID: 179591814
Sat, Oct 20, 2012, 00:27
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So Friday has come and gone and gold coach indicated he will most likely not be available Sat or Sun except for maybe Sat night. Could be a long draft :)
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| 49 | Pacers Rule
ID: 589131312
Sat, Oct 20, 2012, 09:35
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Hopefully he'll check in tonight so he doesn't time out tomorrow. The second pick shouldn't be too much of a head scratcher.
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| 50 | Gmoney
ID: 4511101521
Sat, Oct 20, 2012, 18:52
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PR, your draft sux :)
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| 51 | Pacers Rule
ID: 589131312
Sat, Oct 20, 2012, 21:13
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I guess you spoke too soon when you said I'd be a good commish!
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| 52 | Gmoney
ID: 4511101521
Sat, Oct 20, 2012, 23:34
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So I have yet to see LBJ not go 1 or 2 in any draft. What do you say we give Goldcoach LBJ and when he checks in, if he didn't want him, you can trade LBJ to whoever he did want not named Durant?
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| 53 | Pacers Rule
ID: 589131312
Sun, Oct 21, 2012, 01:43
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And this from the guy that took five days to decide he wanted the first pick! :-p
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| 54 | Gmoney
ID: 4511101521
Sun, Oct 21, 2012, 07:49
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hey now, i didnt know i was on the clock! Seriosly tho, we could give him James with the option to trade immeadiately for whoever pick 3 or 4 take the moment he checks in. I don't think pick 3 or 4 would object to having LBJ and it would get us moving.
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| 55 | Pacers Rule
Leader
ID: 910311210
Sun, Oct 21, 2012, 10:47
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That's just the thing. He's not on the clock either - until 2 PM. At 8 PM, if he times out, I would be surprised if the draft does not start moving - and quickly. I get what you're saying, and had he left me instructions to do so, I would have done so in a heartbeat. As it is, I opened the draft early to accommodate his weekend schedule and allow him to leave a queue, and he did not do that. So we wait. We'll get it done, one way or another.
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| 56 | Pacers Rule
Leader
ID: 910311210
Sun, Oct 21, 2012, 14:08
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DRAFT CLOCK STARTED
As per the email you received, we will start with a 6 hour per pick clock and a 12 hour cumulative clock.
This will require us to avg. under an hour per pick. If we are falling behind, we will shorten the per pick clock. If a manager exceeds their cumulative clock and you are up, you may post your pick on this discussion board until I am able to manually move the draft along and catch up all picks posted here. I will try to stay on top of that but may not always have access due to work, etc. The skipped manager can make their skipped pick(s) any time they are ready at draftime from the remaining players. If you've exceeded your cumulative clock, please check this board to make sure the player you want hasn't already been taken via posting here.
Lets have a great draft, and best of luck to all!
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| 57 | Goldcoach
Leader
ID: 9228209
Sun, Oct 21, 2012, 19:09
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Sorry guys, Was out of town with no access. Am good to go from here on out.
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| 58 | Pacers Rule
ID: 34948716
Sun, Oct 21, 2012, 20:02
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Gents, we need to use queues as much as possible for our picks. Read the help files on draftime.com if you have questions about queues. Don't forget to turn them on. It's fine to set a delay on your queue to give yourself a chance to review your pick before the computer executes it for you once you get on the clock. If you have your queue filled and turned on without a delay, you won't use any of your cumulative clock. If your queue is filled but not turned on, your queue will appear as a drop down menu to remind you who you were considering with your next pick. You can still pick someone not in your queue in that case if you've changed your mind.
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| 59 | Pacers Rule
ID: 34948716
Sun, Oct 21, 2012, 20:38
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ywk, I sent you a trade offer. I don't know if you saw it.
Looks like you made a queue, but didn't turn auto-pick on.
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| 60 | Great One
ID: 512531316
Sun, Oct 21, 2012, 20:43
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I'd probably trade down out of the first round if anyone interest in moving up. Looking for a 2nd and 4th for my 1st and 6th.
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| 61 | Pacers Rule
Leader
ID: 910311210
Mon, Oct 22, 2012, 05:08
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At this point it's looking pretty likely we'll need to move to a 4 hour clock starting in round 2 already with two of four managers almost timing out with their round one picks. If so, Maspero you'll still get a six hour clock to make your two picks at the end of round one.
Goldcoach has just 6:58 of cumulative clock remaining and ywk has just 6:02 remaining.
We'll need to average 2 rounds or better per day here on out, so queue up your players and let's get busy.
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| 62 | Great One
ID: 2431114
Mon, Oct 22, 2012, 11:07
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I didn't really want to take Kevin Love with the 10th pick overall... but I did want to get him with my 2nd pick. But then I was gonna pair him with Rondo who I figured would still be there (Love's scoring/3's offsets Rondo's weaknesses nicely). So that backfired.
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| 63 | Pacers Rule
ID: 589131312
Mon, Oct 22, 2012, 12:39
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Nice work picking up the pace. I adjusted the clock down to 4 hrs once i saw we were in the second round. If any of you workout trades, email me and post it also on the board along with a confirmation from your trading partner (you could try texting me for a faster response) and if I can adjust draftime before the first affected pick needs to be made, I will. If you don't see the change reflected in draftime, go ahead and make the picks and we will switch it afterward to keep the draft moving.
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| 64 | Great One
ID: 2431114
Mon, Oct 22, 2012, 15:54
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If anyone is looking to trade down I've got my upcoming 3rd and 4th rounder for sale.
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| 65 | Toral
ID: 424462011
Mon, Oct 22, 2012, 16:14
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Draftime does not skip pick missers when they come back up, it seems.
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| 66 | Gmoney
ID: 179591814
Mon, Oct 22, 2012, 16:41
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GO
I didn't see your post until after I picked. I think you were looking to move up? If that is true and iIf you were targeting either Harden or Jennings, let me know.
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| 67 | Pacers Rule
Leader
ID: 910311210
Mon, Oct 22, 2012, 17:27
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[65] So it seems. I'm a little torn b/c past RIHC precedent has been that when you miss a pick, you also get skipped for all subsequent picks until you get all your picks caught up, at which point you resume normal drafting status.... Yet I'm not sure everyone knows that and I failed to mention it in explaining how the clocks and missed picks work, so I kind of feel I should not enforce it to be fair. The other aspect of it is that the time does count against his cumulative clock, and everyone only gets 12 total hours of 'on the clock' status until the end of the draft anyway, so that kind of alleviates the worry about consistently waiting on the same person. Another aspect of it is that he was ready to roll with his first round pick with his queue set up, so this is quite possibly the same isolated incident that started when he missed his first pick earlier today....something unavoidable that came up. So....I think the fairest and best thing to do is to let this current pick time out before we skip him....since missing your second and third round picks only to be made sometime in say the 4th round would significantly handicap a manager, and he's already paying the price with the loss of cumulative clock anyway. I will send another email out to him besides the two that draftime should have sent out to him. He didn't give me any other way to contact him, so I guess if he times out with this pick also, we'll move on and if he is not back before he comes up again, we will just have to make a decision that we feel is in his best interest...and using all the rest of his cumulative clock to time out the next pick might not be the best solution.
Moving forward, however, we should probably come to an agreement about what to do if it should happen again that someone times out on their pick and the draft progresses to their next pick. If it was one of the two managers picking on the ends, we've already said they would not get double clock, so it's probably worth discussing to keep things fair for all. The main silver lining here is that the cumulative clock limit ensures we will complete the draft in time for the start of the season, so it's more a matter of patience than risking not getting completed in time.
Let's remember to keep things positive if anyone has any input on the best course of action. We'll get there.
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| 68 | Goldcoach
Leader
ID: 9228209
Mon, Oct 22, 2012, 18:18
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I'm wondering if his rnd 1 queue was meant to be a general queue, and did not realize he had no queues for the next and subsequent rounds.
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| 69 | Great One
ID: 512531316
Mon, Oct 22, 2012, 18:45
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66: I probably wouldn't have picked Harden or Jennings so I'm good, thanks
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| 70 | Pacers Rule
Leader
ID: 910311210
Mon, Oct 22, 2012, 18:46
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Could be. My guess is that when the draft took off this morning, he had no idea it was going to get back to him so fast. I was a little shocked to find out I was on the clock for my round two pick when I checked....I thought it would be at like 1.08 or something.
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| 71 | Gmoney
ID: 179591814
Mon, Oct 22, 2012, 19:08
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Re 67, I'm good with allowing the full clock for this situation for all the reasons stated above. Missing picks 3 and 4 will hurt plenty in addition to the cumulative clock.
Also moving forward, I am fine with skipping a timed out player until they catch up. Hopefully that isn't an issue
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| 72 | Pacers Rule
Leader
ID: 910311210
Mon, Oct 22, 2012, 20:07
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Cool. YWK got a pick in before calling it a night.
Sorry GO, my guy was there and I had to take him. Super psyched about Horford this season, esp. at pick 29. Good luck with your guy slipping to you....though I have a sense that maybe he just got taken after me....if you were feeling bullish on Stephen Curry this season.
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| 73 | Great One
ID: 512531316
Mon, Oct 22, 2012, 22:11
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I'm taking all kinds of players I've never had before and never targeted... should be an interesting season!
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| 74 | Gmoney
ID: 179591814
Mon, Oct 22, 2012, 22:52
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I almost took Horford with 25. The recent injury scared me off. Not sure about Jennings but it is a contract year for him and he is the man in Mil if they have one that is.
Pleased with the group being able to knock off almost 1/3 of the day once we got rolling
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| 75 | Pacers Rule
Leader
ID: 910311210
Mon, Oct 22, 2012, 23:52
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I'm also taking guys I have not planned on or not targeted. I could have picked #4 but I moved down to the #5 spot because I really wanted Westbrook but figured I'd be satisfied with Love if Westbrook went at 4. I did not want DWill. Then when Love went down, I knew I was hosed for Westbrook b/c Love would drop out of the top 5 and I'd end up stuck with DWill. I was hoping a different big would drop back to me in round 2. I hate drafting guys with flabby arms and M. Gasol fits the bill. If you're being paid multi-million dollars to physically perform, then quit the freaking donuts and hit the weight room for crying out loud. Same beef I used to have with Brad Miller and I'm still mad the Pacers didn't pay him 9 million to stay in Indy after the big Chicago Trade after Smits retired. Fortunately, the Simons are willing to pay for talent now. Wow. that was some rabbit trail. Still, I am hoping Marc wants to outdo big brother and he's got every opportunity in Memphis to step his game up another level.
I think Horford is going to be just fine...they are just being careful with him....and they are still evaluating talent and mixing up lineups anyway so there is no need to rush him back.
I'm psyched as there are multiple fellas I think would be nice picks at 4.08. I was hoping for Batum in the fifth. I see that was a pipe dream.
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| 76 | Gmoney
ID: 179591814
Mon, Oct 22, 2012, 23:53
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PR
Pending the pick by Stromonio, I may have an interest in moving into ur spot of the draft. Picks 48&49 for 44&53?
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| 77 | Pacers Rule
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ID: 910311210
Tue, Oct 23, 2012, 00:12
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Let's see what he does. I am concerned what would be left at 48....as obviously you are as well. Funny thing is that I was going to offer to trade all future picks with the #6 or #7 slot at some point...but so far I haven't been ready to trade down yet...and I'm probably still not.
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| 78 | Gmoney
ID: 179591814
Tue, Oct 23, 2012, 00:22
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I have 7 guys I feel good about with my next two picks. A trade up would get me the 1 guy I want but I'm guessing none of me 7 will be left at 53 so I'm a little torn but prob 65/35 to do it
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| 79 | Pacers Rule
Leader
ID: 910311210
Tue, Oct 23, 2012, 00:39
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Cumulative Clock update through pick 4.06 from draftime for those managers currently on pace to exceed the max cumulative clock:
Username
Total Clock used
Cumulative Clock Remaining
Goldcoach
05:07:13 used
06:52:47 remaining
Harverad
09:11:10 used
02:48:50 remaining
ywChiou
08:02:36 used
03:57:24 remaining
This means that starting with their next picks, Harverad and ywk would exceed their max cumulative draft clock before their pick would time out. If that would happen and if I'm not around to manually move the draft forward by skipping their picks on draftime, the draft can proceed by posting picks in this thread, and I will manually enter them into draftime once I have a chance. I hate to even bring up the possibility that this could happen, but unfortunately unless things change and managers start setting up and enabling their queues, it looks like it may happen. Goldcoach has indicated his situation was an anomoly and he does not expect to have an issue moving forward.
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| 80 | Pacers Rule
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ID: 910311210
Tue, Oct 23, 2012, 00:42
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stromonio won't time out before the draft pause tonight, so unless he's out there and about to pick, I need to call it a night.
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| 81 | Pacers Rule
Leader
ID: 910311210
Tue, Oct 23, 2012, 01:54
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Nice pick Stramonio. Great value here. With 2 Centers I didn't really need a shot blocker though, so with Paul George still on the board, I'm sorry Gmoney, I just could not let him go. There should still be a couple nice nice players when it gets down to you.
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| 82 | Goldcoach
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ID: 9228209
Tue, Oct 23, 2012, 06:18
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re 79. I do not have access to the boards at work. If we should have to start posting drafts there I will need the assistance of someone who would be willing to assist by sending a note that I'm up and who has been picked already that is not reflected in drafttime.
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| 83 | Gmoney
ID: 179591814
Tue, Oct 23, 2012, 11:41
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PR - worked out for the best. Davis was my target. I also had George, Hibbert, Holiday, Iggy, Noah and Wall as my 7 which 4 were still left when I picked but none at 52. There was still one more guy I could have lived with but oh we'll.
I needed a guy like Hibbert because I was top heavy with 2 guards and durant thru 3. That left me needing to pick between Holiday and Iggy. This was a harder decision for me than choosing between Jennings/Dragic. Both should benefit from the off season changes and expecting big things for both. It was iggys ft percentage that ultimately pushed me away
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| 84 | Gmoney
ID: 179591814
Tue, Oct 23, 2012, 14:19
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Once we hit round 6 (picks 61-72), I would be open to swapping picks 72&73 for a pick 61-66 and the corresponding
7th round selection.
Of course some of this depends on the next handful of picks but just testing the water
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| 85 | Pacers Rule
ID: 589131312
Tue, Oct 23, 2012, 14:51
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I hear you Goldcoach. I often don't have access myself. We'll work out something. Not to worry. Your time won't count against you if you are not up on draftime. Raj is down to 35:20 remaining.....get those queues loaded up.
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| 86 | Pacers Rule
ID: 589131312
Tue, Oct 23, 2012, 17:43
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I will probably need an hour or better on this pick but should have something before too late
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| 87 | Pacers Rule
Leader
ID: 910311210
Tue, Oct 23, 2012, 19:59
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I'm around this evening to move the draft ahead if necessary, and get queues set up for tomorrow's picks :-)
I don't think I've ever taken 3 Centers in the first five rounds before. I really wanted Iguodala in round 5 and then he went the pick before me. The only thing I worried about with him is that his production has dropped for like three years in a row. I'm not sure if a change in scenery is going to bump him back up to his career year or not.
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| 88 | Goldcoach
Leader
ID: 9228209
Tue, Oct 23, 2012, 21:59
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Duncan and Deng back to back, an old creaker and some injury risk. I sort of was wishing someone would take Duncan before me. Pops will play him less but I guess he makes a pretty good #2 center.
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| 89 | Pacers Rule
Leader
ID: 910311210
Tue, Oct 23, 2012, 22:14
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Yeah, I looked at Deng with the pick before. His wrist - opting not to have surgery - and still not being at 100% was my main hesitation. He has a really nice balanced overall line. Hopefully his wrist continues to heal and you've got a very nice value pick there. Duncan was really productive on a per minute basis last year, and obviously you're not going for the FT% crown so he should be a nice value pick for you as well.
My wife just picked up a pair of Spurs/Pacers tickets in the 12th row, so hopefully I will get to see the 7 footer up close before he hangs 'em up. It still shocks me they won 20 straight last season. I like Pop. He's old school.
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| 90 | Gmoney
ID: 179591814
Tue, Oct 23, 2012, 23:53
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Darn u gold. If u would have grabbed Deng first, my sites were set on Faried and Duncan. I settled for Faried/ Knight but I am actually expecting top 40 results from BK so I won't really call it settling.
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| 91 | Pacers Rule
Leader
ID: 910311210
Wed, Oct 24, 2012, 02:45
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We have made like 78 picks in 48 hours, gentlemen. Nicely done.
Well my queue can only get so long tonight b/c one has to sleep once in a while.
Best of luck here in the middle rounds. Remember, if someone reaches their 12 hour cumulative clock, I will try to be aware that it is happening and keep the draft moving. If I am unable to do so, the next manager(s) up to pick may post their picks in this thread instead of draftime and I will manually enter them once I get a chance to catch up.
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| 92 | Toral
ID: 424462011
Wed, Oct 24, 2012, 04:17
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I'm afraid that I will be ruining my perfect cumulative clock (0:00) today as I will be out-of-town with little or no access. I will check in to try to move things along if I get a chance but no guarantees.
Things should be back to normal by early evening -- arounf 8 Eastern, let's say.
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| 93 | Pacers Rule
Leader
ID: 910311210
Wed, Oct 24, 2012, 14:06
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Toral,
looks like your queue, if you left one, didn't make it to your pick. The player I wanted here didn't make it down to me either! (In fact, Jason I sent you a trade offer for Hayward just now). If there ever was a situation to grant a little grace on the draft clock situation, this would be it - for a manager that has been doing a great job having picks ready and ALSO communicated about an internet outage in advance to let us plan - but 8 is like six hours from now. Even if I would extend your per pick clock right here - that would take you all the way to 10 hours of your 12 total and I don't know that you would want that either. If we were talking about a short extension, probably I would just go ahead and do it, but in the absence of other info, I guess we'll just hope you find a player you like when you get back. If anyone else has any other input, feel free to post, text, or email it.
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| 94 | Pacers Rule
Leader
ID: 910311210
Wed, Oct 24, 2012, 14:11
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Ah, I didn't even notice you did still had a queue player left but had just set your queue to use most of your pick clock in case you got back in time to make a decision. Thanks for the consideration of letting us know you might use most of your clock this pick.
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| 95 | Great One
ID: 2431114
Wed, Oct 24, 2012, 14:29
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Would anyone have taken Kawhi Leonard before next round? I took him about 20 picks higher than his ADP (also did with Mo Williams)... but just had a feeling he wasn't getting back to me.
My mother always said... (ok not my mother) but its not a reach if that guy wouldn't be there next time around.
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| 96 | Pacers Rule
Leader
ID: 910311210
Wed, Oct 24, 2012, 15:36
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I don't think either of your last picks would have made it around to you. I felt this was the right round to take Amare and I was hoping injury concerns would cause him to slip to me. I didn't really want George Hill here....I felt it was maybe a round early....and my next target after Amare was Hayward, but then he went just in front of me (nice pick, jaydog). To your question, Leonard was in my queue, though to be honest, I don't remember if he was in front of or behind Hill. I hoped Hill would come back to me on the turn, but looking at the team needs of the managers picking before me again.....I was about 80% he wouldn't have been there. Had they both been available, I"m not sure but I probably would have gone Hill, but then again I pick before you again so at that point Leonard would probably have been gone. Pop likes him, he plays the right way, he's a second year player, Pop likes to rest his older vets, what's not to like about Kawhi Leonard this season?
All that being said, I would make you a pretty nice offer for Amare if you're interested...though I probably should have done so before I picked Hill :-)
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| 97 | Pacers Rule
Leader
ID: 910311210
Wed, Oct 24, 2012, 16:06
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GO, I'm trying to deliver on those low ball trade offers I referred to in my opening post...I just sent you my first one. Congratulations, I hope you enjoy it.
I guess I should say your first one. I've already had other offers punted :-)
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| 98 | Great One
ID: 477512212
Wed, Oct 24, 2012, 16:36
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That was a good offer, think I'm feeling good where I'm at despite my odd draft.
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| 99 | Pacers Rule
Leader
ID: 910311210
Wed, Oct 24, 2012, 16:42
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I think Amare might be one of the best value picks in the draft to this point. I mean, at least next to all my picks.
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| 100 | Gmoney
ID: 179591814
Wed, Oct 24, 2012, 16:44
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Feeling pretty good about getting Scola and Big V just now. Scola is in a new location in Phoe where they appreciate him and Big V was just named the starter. 10 blocks in 5 preseason games is a nice carrot I couldn't pass on
PR, u may want to make a ruling on Harverad for picks 10-15. He has exceeded his 12 hours now. Not saying they will but if he doesn't go instant auto pick, can yw and gold coach post in here immediately or does he have a couple minute grace each time?
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| 101 | Gmoney
ID: 179591814
Wed, Oct 24, 2012, 16:48
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I agree on the amare pick. I almost took him with my B Knight pick but the news on his health scared me away. Since I didnt have but one Big, I couldn't gamble for him then. I would have this time for sure.
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| 102 | Gmoney
ID: 179591814
Wed, Oct 24, 2012, 17:22
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PR = Homer. 1/3rd of team are Pacers. Should I expect a Horford for Hibbert trade offer soon :)
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| 103 | Pacers Rule
Leader
ID: 910311210
Wed, Oct 24, 2012, 17:28
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[100] I think I've been clear about this from the beginning but maybe not. I write a lot so maybe it got lost in all the posts.
DRAFT UPDATE
If anyone exceeds their max clock of 12 hours for the draft, No clock remains and when that manager comes up on the clock again, if they do not have a queue set to autopick with no delay, the following manager or managers can pick immediately as if the manager had timed out on a per pick clock. Because Draftime.com does not have the mechanics to automatically move the draft to the next manager, I must manually skip that pick for draftime to allow the next manager(s) to make their pick. If I am not able to manually do this before the next manager is ready to pick, picks may be posted here until I can manually enter them on draftime. During that process the skipped manager may still make his pick on draftime just like any other skipped pick, as long as he checks here first and the player he wants is not already posted/picked. The draft can proceed manually on this board until I can catch up draftime.
Because we lose the auto-notify "you're up" email from draftime, we (and draftime) will not count time against the following manager's cumulative clocks while they are not showing up on draftime, even if the manager in front of them already posted their pick on this thread and technically they are up and able to make a pick on this thread. Once I catch up draftime to the current state of the draft, per pick and cumulative clock accountability will resume for the manager who is up at that point, starting with the moment draftime.com shows them as being up and they are enabled to make a pick like normal. If for some reason there are other clock irregularities/issues, we will make a fair allowance/adjustment. Basically, if you are up on draftime, you are up and your clock is ticking. If Raj is up on draftime and has not made a pick before I move the draft along to the next manager, every manager after him who become up on these boards as a result gets a free clock basically until either I catch up draftime or he times out again on his per pick clock and so on. I should be around most of the rest of the draft so it should not be a problem. Raj can avoid this being an issue as long as he always has a queue set up to immediately autopick for him when he is up. If there are still questions, please ask.
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| 104 | Pacers Rule
Leader
ID: 910311210
Wed, Oct 24, 2012, 17:34
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Additional point - if anyone can't reach the boards but would otherwise be able to make their pick, perhaps the manager behind them would be motivated to email them and try to facilitate obtaining their choice for their pick and posting it on their behalf. I am fine with this as long as no one posts someone else's pick on here without 100% authorization to do so. This may help the draft proceed in the event I'm away from the internet due to work, etc.
In the event of a skipped manager and another manager posting the same pick - one on draftime and one on this board, the pick with the earliest date stamp will get the player. If they are simultaneous, the skipped manager will get the player/benefit of the doubt.
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| 105 | Gmoney
ID: 179591814
Wed, Oct 24, 2012, 17:51
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PR, I believe you have been clear to this point. I also felt that now that we reached this point, it was probably worth restating things and you added some good clarifying points as well. Thank you.
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| 106 | Pacers Rule
Leader
ID: 910311210
Wed, Oct 24, 2012, 20:34
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[102] I think you just need to get some good players up in your part of the country so you can pick 'em. By the way, has it snowed there yet? Me and my Pacers are going to take you down.
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| 107 | Toral
ID: 424462011
Wed, Oct 24, 2012, 20:39
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Hi, guys. Did you miss me? I missed you. Which tells you what a useless day i had.
I still have 12 players left in my queue for my *next* pick, if it had come to that. Spent a fricking hour plus at 2:30 in the morning on a 31-player queue (including a few people I thot would be taken but whom i didn't want for positional reasons etc.)
I really should have taken Stoudemire at 7.07.
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| 108 | Pacers Rule
Leader
ID: 910311210
Wed, Oct 24, 2012, 22:37
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Wow, how can you do a 31 person queue in an hour? It takes me about an hour to come up with 4 players :-)
Actually it was kind of weird seeing you almost time out.
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| 109 | Gmoney
ID: 179591814
Wed, Oct 24, 2012, 23:11
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Need good players and once we have them, stay on the court. When ur 2 franchise are out for months at a time....not good.
I will give you the edge on the nba court but I don't like ur chances in fantasy land ;)
I did one queue at the start with 150 players and then just copied it from pick to pick. I spend about 10 minutes each round moving guys up and down within the queue based on need. It took about 30 minutes to load everyone up front but it has made it easy during the draft
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| 110 | Pacers Rule
Leader
ID: 910311210
Wed, Oct 24, 2012, 23:17
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One year I paid for projections, imported them to a spreadsheet, and cut and pasted them to everyone's teams as they were drafted. I can't remember if that helped or not, but it sure was a bunch of work.
I will admit, the Pacers were really healthy last year, and that made a huge difference.
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| 111 | Pacers Rule
Leader
ID: 910311210
Wed, Oct 24, 2012, 23:22
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We are making great time now. We have actually caught up to the main league. We're a couple rounds infront of the the Yahoo league. I think at one point we made like 8 picks in 15 minutes today.
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| 112 | Pacers Rule
Leader
ID: 910311210
Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 00:01
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Maspero, you around tonight?
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| 113 | Toral
ID: 424462011
Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 07:43
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I didn't think Jameer Nelson was likely to make it to 10.06. This pick was slated for a big but I was going to grab him anyway.
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| 114 | maspero71
ID: 39820273
Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 09:06
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[112] sorry guys ... i spent half a hour setting up a queue and the forgot to set autopick on when i went to bed ... what a jerk ...
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| 115 | Pacers Rule
ID: 589131312
Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 14:38
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If anyone wants me or another designated picker to pick from their queue, please post instructions here or email them. So far everyone has been using the autopick feature and it has not been an issue.
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| 116 | Pacers Rule
ID: 4391511
Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 14:55
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Since DPR timed out with his last pick, his total clock should show 7:33. If he comes up again and times out again, he will be at 11:33 total with those two picks and three more rounds to go. If he comes on the clock again before he catches up his missed pick, I'm inclined to allow about two hours for him to still pick before I would manually advance the draft. This would give him another chance to not get skipped again, but still preserve 2 1/2 hours of cumulative clock for his remaining 3 picks. Does this seem good to the group? Hopefully he checks in and catches it up and it's a non-issue.
-PR
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| 117 | Pacers Rule
Leader
ID: 910311210
Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 17:19
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Going to move things along @ about 5:30 if he doesn't make it to pick.
I won't be as closely monitoring the draft for the next couple hours as I'll be away from the computer until maybe 8:30, so feel free to use the boards if necessary to move the draft along, though it looks like Raj has his queue set up and may be ready when he comes up. YWK also has his queue set up for instant autopick
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| 118 | Pacers Rule
Leader
ID: 910311210
Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 17:25
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DPR, your cumulative clock is not showing correctly on draftime. You still have just over 2 1/2 hours left. Looks like when a pick is missed, it charges the whole time until you make the missed pick against your total clock time, instead of stopping it at an additional 4 hours. Glad you were able to make it back to pick before I moved things along. Give me a head's up what you'd like to do the rest of the way as far as letting your cumulative clock tick all the way to 0 or not if you don't pick in time.
-PR
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| 119 | dpr
ID: 9513258
Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 17:39
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Sorry I had planned to be able to check back in mid morning but got held up in meetings. Was a busy day. Looks like we were really movin today, outside of me.
PR, so now that I have picked what amount of time do I have for the final 3? Dont forsee any problems but need to know if I need set queues if I am going out for an hour or two
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| 120 | dpr
ID: 9513258
Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 17:44
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Alright I see I have 2.5 hours. What does ". Give me a head's up what you'd like to do the rest of the way as far as letting your cumulative clock tick all the way to 0 or not if you don't pick in time" mean.
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| 121 | Pacers Rule
Leader
ID: 910311210
Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 20:06
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I'm back online now and YWK is about to reach his cumulative clock in 15 minutes. Draftime says his queue is filled, but unavailable. I don't know if that was a mistake or intentional. I could either let him time out, or, given the fact that he may live in Asia where it's the middle of the night, I could skip his pick now and spare him the final 15 minutes of his cumulative clock for the rest of the draft. Then again, I'm not sure I did that for Raj or maybe I wasn't around to do it, IDK, so maybe I should just let them all time out and not worry about it. That's what I meant, dpr. Would you prefer to have your clock run all the way down if you let it or if I notice it, would you like me to skip your pick with a little time remaining on your cumulative clock for your last few picks.
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| 122 | Pacers Rule
Leader
ID: 910311210
Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 20:14
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dpr, I have you as having used 9:24:15 of your 12:00:00, meaning you have 2 hours, 35 minutes, and 45 seconds remaining. You have been so good about making your picks quickly until these last couple that I hated to see you lose all your clock due to one bad situation and we never really resolved how we were handling it when a manager comes up to pick again when they missed their last pick. Are we allowing them another full clock or partial clock, or just immediately skipping all future picks until they catch their picks up, at which point their clock situation returns to normal with as much of their cumulative clocks as they have remaining. I know Guru has said in the past that managers with missed picks got no new clocks until they had caught up all their missed picks, but I'm not sure that applies in a cumulative clock situation. It can if we want it to.
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| 123 | Pacers Rule
Leader
ID: 910311210
Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 20:27
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I moved the draft along, as ywk has exceeded his 12 hour cumulative clock. I could override his queue being unavailable and take a player for him, but since he did not leave me instructions re: that, I will not pick for him. I"m on the clock now.
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| 124 | Gmoney
ID: 179591814
Fri, Oct 26, 2012, 09:48
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Done.... Nice work everyone after a shaky start we got our groove.
I ended up PG heavy so if anyone has an interest in B Jennings, make me an offer that would include a PF.
best wishes
G
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| 125 | maspero71
ID: 39820273
Fri, Oct 26, 2012, 10:09
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with no.180 Eric Bledsoe the draft is officially over !!!!!!
good luck for the season !!!!!!!
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| 126 | Pacers Rule
ID: 589131312
Fri, Oct 26, 2012, 10:53
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Nice job. That was fun but I'm glad to be done. I'll enter draft results and then enable the season. At that point, all undrafted players will go on waivers. If you drafted a player eligible for an injury slot, you may pick up an extra player for him. This means John Wall, not George Hill. If they might play in the opener, they are not IS eligible. I will open up a new thread for regular season discussion. All IS eligible players need to be declared as such in that thread by you before you pick up a replacement player. GURU usually has a separate thread specifically for IS eligibility questions and rulings. Once we are started, you can either use your waiver priority to get a replacement player, or you can wait until they become a FA and pick them up then.
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| 127 | Toral
ID: 424462011
Fri, Oct 26, 2012, 11:02
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Thanx for your very fine commissioning.
I wondered from the beginning if the cumulative clock was too short -- and it probably was, but not by much. 14 hours maybe.
I appreciated your wise rulings on timings out and skipping picks, especially the early ones. Not necessarily what I would have ruled, but worked out well. And it shows something that there was not one complaint, and, once we got into the draft, not even suggestions. A sure sign that the players trust the commish.
And you have a very genial style. Godd luck this season to yours and the real Pacers.
Anyone do spreadsheets and can tell us how we stand in advance?
Toral
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| 128 | Great One
ID: 2431114
Fri, Oct 26, 2012, 11:13
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Spreadsheets and previews always predict me last, so I enjoy seeing them!
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| 129 | Pacers Rule
Leader
ID: 910311210
Fri, Oct 26, 2012, 12:56
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LOL Great One. Sheesh Toral, I'm blushing. I'll have to look up 'genial.' I'm hoping it doesn't mean 'verbose'. Thank you though. I didn't sleep a lot this week :-)
If you are guys are up for it, I'd be interested in some post-draft reflections on your teams, which other teams you like, and any picks you thought were really good or really questionable. I'll start by saying GO, I'm really curious how your team is going to do. Some of your picks I didnt' like at all, I think 1st half of the draft, and then some of them I thought were very sharp. I think Amare might have been the best pick of the draft.
Also, I was ticked when Love went down, b/c I picked #5 to get either Love or preferrably, Westbrook, and to be close to the middle of the draft. I don't like the ends b/c it's harder to get the team you want with having to wait 22 picks before your next pick. Once Love went down, I figured I was stuck with Deron Williams unless I could trade up, which I tried to do, but to no avail. I think the first four players taken are a cut above the rest. Wade would be in that mix too if it weren't for injury risk, imo.
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| 130 | Gmoney
ID: 179591814
Fri, Oct 26, 2012, 13:45
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Round 1 &2
I was pleased to have a top 3 pick and waivered on durant and James but with durant youth and hunger, I went there. The next picks were routine. The bold pick was Cousins as I am sure many hoped he slipped to round 2. He could be huge this year. I did not want Bynum as I am not convinced he will be healthy which I suspect is one reason LA gave up on him with no guarantee in return with Howard. Not sure when I would have pulled the trigger on Love but it would have been hard having my first round guy miss 20 games. Dirk has also been a first round guy over the years and dropped to round 2. I thought love might but I can see the need to take him 1.
In round 2, I loved the Ibaka pick as a category anchor and knew he wouldn't fall to me. There were no surprises in this round with the exception of Rondo. He seemed like a round 3 guy to me as opposed to early round 2. Of course if he picks up where he left off in the playoffs, the joke will be on the rest of us. I must say I was glad Howard went right in front of me so I didn't have that dilemma. When the snake returned I was gifted Harden. His ADP was always higher than 24 in the stuff I saw and closer to the middle of round 2. I don't care for SG's so I was pleased to get a good one. Round 3/4 next
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| 131 | Gmoney
ID: 179591814
Fri, Oct 26, 2012, 14:01
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Round 3/4
This may have been the most difficult part of the draft with me. These next 12 all have potential but flaws too which is why they aren't 1s.
I wanted a top guard and waivered between Jennings and dragic. I may have chosen Horford had he not had an issue right before the draft. Curry could be steal of the round IF healthy and if it is not him probably Milsap who dropped because of Favors. I think Milsap can overcome Favors more than Curry can stay healthy.
In round 4 my favorite picks were all in a row..... Batum, Davis and George. I could easily see 2nd round value out of this trio before the year is over. I tried to trade up for davis but no luck. While not bad picks by any means, I think Evans and granger are the riskiest picks here. I closed the round with Hibbert as my first big and was happy to see him there for PTS blocks and rebounds
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| 132 | Great One
ID: 2431114
Fri, Oct 26, 2012, 14:09
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We would copy the RIHC draft recap questions... can we dig up last years for format?
Yeah, my draft was definitely all over the place. I felt like I was piecing different pieces of a puzzle together more than I ever have. Taking players with extreme values in specific categories. And then players in a different direction for balance. And plenty of guys I've never had on any team.
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| 133 | Great One
ID: 2431114
Fri, Oct 26, 2012, 14:14
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RIHC AAA #1 Managers - You are each invited (although not required) to post your general reflections on the completed draft. Comments may be as detailed or as general as you wish. As a catalyst, free free to comment on any of the following:
1. What was your plan/strategy entering the draft? Were you able to execute as you had planned?
2. What were your favorite picks? Which do you wish you could do over?
3. Looking over all of the teams, which ones do you like the most (other than your own)?
4. What surprised you most about the draft?
5. If you could start over, would you do anything differently?
Non-managers are also welcome to post general comments on the draft, and to raise questions.
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| 134 | Gmoney
ID: 179591814
Fri, Oct 26, 2012, 17:20
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Favorite pick: 5.01. Jrue Holiday
Pick do over: chandler parsons (needed to add a SF) tho not sure who I should have grabbed instead at that point. Perhaps j Green
Teams I like: ywchiou, pacers rule, Toral, jaydoghall
Biggest surprise: draft position of injured players
Start over: earlier I would have said take Stoudemire when I took B Knight but latest news on STAT does not sound good with 2nd opinion and perhaps out a month
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| 135 | Pacers Rule
Leader
ID: 910311210
Sat, Oct 27, 2012, 17:19
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Sounds good. I'll try to give a better recap later. For now, the draft results have been entered, and you can check your teams for accuracy. Waivers will either run tonight or Sunday night. Until I open up the new thread, just post any players you'd like to declare IS eligible in here. Any manager may challenge IS eligibility for a player. Guru will probably be putting up more guidelines about this if he hasn't already in the main RIHC thread. We will follow those guidelines. Basically, a player has to be "out" according to a credible source for a specified period, and not just day to day. For purposes of starting the season on IS eligibility, if there is any chance they may play in their first game, then they are day to day for IS purposes and are not IS eligible. The burden of 'proof' for IS eligiblity is on the manager who would like their player declared IS eligible. If there is doubt about a player's IS eligibility, just ask and provide documentation of why you feel they should be eligible.
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| 136 | Great One
ID: 512531316
Sat, Oct 27, 2012, 23:44
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Kevin Love
met with a hand specialist on Thursday and was told he might be able to return in 5-to-6 weeks instead of the 6-to-8 weeks initially reported that it would take him to recover from his broken right hand, according to Yahoo! Sports.
Amare Stoudemire
will get a second opinion on his left knee and could be sidelined for the first 15-20 games of the season if he misses five weeks, which is a possibility due to a ruptured cyst.
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| 137 | Pacers Rule
Leader
ID: 910311210
Sun, Oct 28, 2012, 00:42
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GO-
those are both good.
Guru has opened up the IS thread, so everyone please check in on there for IS eligibility rules. A couple notes:
We need to post our injured players in there unless someone else has already posted the injured player in that thread. If you don't agree that a player is hurt more than day to day, you can challenge the eligibility in that thread. RIHC commissioners will then go into special session to make a ruling.
I still would appreciate it if you would make a note in our thread WHEN YOU PICK UP YOUR REPLACEMENT PLAYER so I know who that player is replacing for you. It will just help me administrate the league.
Also, as I mentioned previously, I plan to check rosters for compliance on Sundays instead of Wednesdays, but I will do my best to monitor them on an ongoing basis.
Players will come off of waivers overnight between Sunday and Monday.
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| 138 | Great One
ID: 512531316
Sun, Oct 28, 2012, 01:09
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Do we post them in the RIHC thread or do we maintain our own league specific one? I'm thinking maybe thats just for that particular league and they don't want us cluttering it up.
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| 139 | Toral
ID: 424462011
Sun, Oct 28, 2012, 07:40
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The main thread is for everybody. Quoting from it:
"Whenever a manager in any RIHC-related league decides to declare a player injured and eligible for an IS slot, they must first check this thread to see whether that player has already been declared as IS-eligible.
If that player has not yet been listed, then that manager must post a message declaring the player's status, and providing justification, with a link to a confirming source, if possible."
After all the rules are the same and it makes sense to consolidate the information.
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| 140 | Great One
ID: 512531316
Sun, Oct 28, 2012, 10:57
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Anyone interested in possibly doing my Jeepers Keepers draft for me tonight? I will probably be without power. There are 11 rounds of picks x 10 teams so a fairly quick one.
Starts tonight at 10:30 EST. I think Sandy takes away my power before then.
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| 141 | Pacers Rule
ID: 589131312
Sun, Oct 28, 2012, 12:19
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[139] Correct.
No smartphone, GO? Maybe a laptop on battery, with internet devices on battery backup? Sorry man, hope to be snoozing then.
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| 142 | Great One
ID: 512531316
Sun, Oct 28, 2012, 12:55
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I don't think you can run the draft utility on a smartphone - that would probably kill it quick even if it did work.
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| 143 | Pacers Rule
Leader
ID: 910311210
Sun, Oct 28, 2012, 18:14
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1) Did you have a specific strategy going in? Did it go as expected?
My strategy this year was to try to do well in percentages without sacrificing other cats. I’m not sure I have ever done a draft focusing on percentages so I thought I would give it a try – esp. bigs with good FT% and smalls with decent FG%. I targeted guys who hit threes, got blocks and steals but had decent percentages. I didn’t pay as much attention to scoring and rebounding. We’ll see if that comes back to bite me. I also wanted to focus a little more on getting PGs since I usually seem to neglect them with my teams and end up losing out on assists. As usual, I tried to look for best player available in most situations – and tried to adjust my draft based on who was slipping. However, after taking Brook Lopez in the fifth round and having spent 3 of my first five picks on C eligible players, I was worried I was going to waste my D-Will pick by not providing an adequate supporting cast of PGs, so I did decide to pick up a couple PGs with my next several picks. It helped that I felt there were some decent value mid-round PG’s out there. Turned out I went three in a row and was very happy to get Jeff Teague with the 77th overall pick esp. after taking Isaiah Thomas the pick before. I might have reached a bit for George Hill at #92 but I like his chance for a good FG% this year and 1.5 threes with 5+ assists, and I felt there was a drop off after him. I feel Jameer Nelson is going to have a poor FG% this year trying to do too much. Plus, I didn’t feel certain about IT2 and Teague’s playing time with other capable players pushing both of them for PT, so I figured with the fourth PG, there was safety in numbers that at least one of them would come through big and the other two would still contribute. I was hoping Amare would slip to me in the 8th round, but that didn’t happen. I thought about Kawhi Leonard with my 8th rounder too but GO snatched him up. After four PGs, I felt I was set there and should go back to focusing on big men unless a quality SG/SF was slipping.
I was targeting Westbrook preferably or Love with choosing the #5 pick when I could have had the #4 pick. However, when Love went down with his injury, my strategy backfired and I got stuck with Deron Williams @ #5. Not a bad consolation prize, but still a dropoff from the top 4. I also wanted Paul George in the fourth round. I think he may return 2nd or 3rd round value this year and I was hoping everyone would sleep on him, and he fell to me at pick 44. I was thinking about Ersan Ilyasova with the sixth but GO took him too. I debated between Brand and West in the 9th , but I liked West’s FT% and hoped Brand might slip to me in the tenth. Brand should play with a chip on his shoulder after being Amnestied by the Sixers and with Nowitski and Kaman both ailing, he should have opportunity to establish himself on his new team early. Nice pick dpr.
2) What surprised you?
I was surprised that I took three C eligible players in the first five picks, and in 3 of 4 picks rounds 2-5. I wanted to go big in round 2 after going PG in round 1, but other than George, it seemed that the best player available kept being C eligible. I’d have taken Iguodala instead of Brooks in round 5 had ywk not taken him the pick before.
3) How did your approach change as things unfolded?
Loading up on the bigs early meant I had to go small in the middle rounds. I thought that timed out well with good value players who were available, however, so I wouldn’t change it. Since I was so big and PG heavy, in the later rounds I had to concentrate on SFs and SGs….hopefully some who can provide me some threes, steals, and scoring without real bad FG percentages.
4) If you had to do it over, what would you do differently?
I’m not sure if Hawes was the best player available when I took him in the 10th…but I wasn’t sure who was and he was a PF. I looked at Deandre Jordan and probably should have taken him there, but I didn’t want his poor FT%. Also, Bradley Beal may turn out to be a much better fantasy contributor this year than Tony Allen. But the rookie felt like a risk, and Allen is elite with Steals and shoots it @ 47% for a SG…not bad.
5) Your best and worst pick, in retrospect.
I feel Paul George was my best pick, but I’m hoping Al Horford in the 3rd and Harrison Barnes in the 13th work out very nicely as well. I’m not very confident with Hawes in the 10th but we’ll see I guess.
6) The 2 or 3 picks by other managers that you thought were especially good steals.
If Amare is pretty healthy, I think that may be a top pick. I also felt Ersan Ilyasova was a great snag by GO at pick 58 for his multi-cat production. If O.J. Mayo keeps up his near triple double ways, Jaydog may have the pick of the draft there at #80. Deng @ 74 was nice by Goldcoach. I also like Jarret Jack by Toral in the 12th. I think Curry is going to be very injury prone again. His ankles are chronically sprained. He couldn’t even make it through the preseason. Plus, since Toral has Curry, he needs Jack.
7) 2 or 3 players that were selected higher than you had expected.
Curry cost a third round pick. If he’s healthy, he’s easily worth it but I just don’t see it. Rondo went higher than I expected given his lack of threes and his abysmal FT%. But it looks like maspero is punting FT% so that improves his value for his team. Howard seemed high given his impact on FT% and the uncertainty of his new team and his role. I was shocked GO took Love in the first round given not only the missed games but also not knowing how the injury might affect his shooting. I would expect a dip in FG% or 3’s. I also thought Ibaka went high. He doesn’t get enough PT to be the 15th overall player. Maybe that changes this year. I didn’t realize Monroe was a #21 overall player; he’s a little weak on blocks for that high of a big for my taste. Drummond looks to be earning some PT.
8) If you had to trade your own team for one other owner's team in the league, whose would you want it to be?
Goldcoach’s or GO’s, probably.
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| 144 | Gmoney
ID: 4511101521
Sun, Oct 28, 2012, 18:46
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Any thoughts on Hardens draft value now? He went from the 1 to 3 option to what seems like a clear cut 1 option in Hou. Had been a starter that relied on Durant and Westbrook to get his looks, I would think he may be in trouble but as 6th man playing some with the 2nd team, well Hou roster seems like a 2nd team to me....
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| 145 | Pacers Rule
Leader
ID: 910311210
Sun, Oct 28, 2012, 23:05
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Yeah, he should blow up really nicely. It will be interesting to see what kind of FG% he has there. I kind of doubt 49%.
Probably not great news for K-Mart but who knows.
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| 146 | maspero71
ID: 39820273
Mon, Oct 29, 2012, 09:58
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i have taken d.j. augustin and put in the IS slot the injured d.rose
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| 147 | Pacers Rule
ID: 4391511
Mon, Oct 29, 2012, 12:03
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I corrected a draft entry error for YWK's team just now (thanks for catching that Goldcoach) and I also need to verify the waiver order is correct tonight. Hopefully it is or if not, it didn't affect any pickups as replacements for injured players. If you put a waiver claim on a player but didn't get him but should have based on the correct waiver order, let me know asap.
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| 148 | Goldcoach
Leader
ID: 9228209
Mon, Oct 29, 2012, 18:14
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I have picked up Jorden Crawford & J Sullenger while Billips and Rubio are on the shelf.
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| 149 | Goldcoach
Leader
ID: 9228209
Mon, Oct 29, 2012, 18:19
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1. What was your plan/strategy entering the draft? Were you able to execute as you had planned?
Sitting at #2 I knew my first pick would be a SF, either Durant or James. I actually got the player I wanted in James but would have been happy either way. From round two on it was grab the best player. After 5 rounds I was surprised to see I had one at each position (C,PF,SF,PG,SG) and therefore had some flexibility to continue looking for the best player rather than worry too much about position requirements. My first reach was Derrick Favors at #98 overall. I am excited by the enthusiasm of the pundits for his “tremendous upside...higher than anyone else in the draft” so I bought in. Still wondering about that one, but don’t really know who else I would have taken. I took Ridnour since he was going to start until Rubio gets healthy, then getting Rubio as a handcuff a pleasant surprise. Much like Curry and Jack for Toral.
2. What were your favorite picks? Which do you wish you could do over?
I feel really good about getting Deng at #74, Roy at #143, and Kanter at #167 (he has really shown well in the preseason). I considered Amar’e with the Deng pick, but was concerned about his knee and the fact the issue was with the one he had micro fracture surgery on. Deng’s wrist was a concern as well, but he was playing well and with Rose out for most of the year figures to have an even better year than last year so I went with what I felt was the safer pick…Amar’e went in the same round. Do overs… I might have taken Randolph, Boozer, or Glen Davis (he’s been a monster in preseason) in lieu of Duncan at #71. His age and minutes worry me, but ESPN had him rated about a round and a half higher so I went with the experts on this one. I am also concerned about DeAndre Jordan’s FT% in my round 10 pick, but with Favors and Kanter on board I have some flexibility as to how much I have to use him.
3. Looking over all of the teams, which ones do you like the most (other than your own)?
Baring future injuries; If Love recovers quickly AND fully, and Amar’e is in good health Restok will be good, Pacers are solid through and through, Donkyhunters chances hinge on Eric Gordon having a full season at close to peak level; Of the three I give the edge to Pacers.
4. What surprised you most about the draft?
The absolutely most astounding thing was the number of missed picks! With the ability to set up round by round queues and auto pick time options why would anyone time out? Toral set us a fine example with his once setting his auto pick to 230 minutes. Obviously he wanted to wanted to consider how the draft was going before making his pick, but he damn sure wasn’t going to miss out on player a,b,or c by actually getting skipped! Regardinging picks themselves I think Bynum, Love, Dirk, and Monroe all went early in view of their injury situation/and or draft position. In the case of Monroe I think ywChiou could have taken a better PG at pick 21 (his Monroe pick) i.e Jennings or Dragic, and then gotten Monroe with the pick he used for Nash at 28. I think the steal of the draft is restok’s pick of Jae Crowder at 135, with drussell’s pick of Lillard (damn your eyes…that forced me into the Duncan pick) at pick 64. I also see great opportunity for a “steal” with my pick of Roy at 143, and Steeler’s Osik selection at 120.
5. If you could start over, would you do anything differently?
I’ll know the answer to this at the end of the season.
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| 150 | Pacers Rule
Leader
ID: 910311210
Mon, Oct 29, 2012, 18:41
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Waiver order is reset and corrected to reflect the adds by GO and Goldcoach when Waivers ran. Thanks gents for posting your pickups and IS players. GO if you wanted Jordan Crawford and had him as your first waiver request, we still have an issue, otherwise we are all set. Assuming of course, I didn't make any more mistakes entering the wrong players taken in the draft!
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| 151 | Great One
ID: 512531316
Tue, Oct 30, 2012, 14:26
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I'm good, thanks.
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| 152 | Raj
ID: 35927127
Tue, Oct 30, 2012, 18:29
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Picked up Robin Lopez and Steve Novak for Dirk Nowitzki and Danny Granger
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| 153 | Great One
ID: 512531316
Tue, Oct 30, 2012, 23:43
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This Crowder dude shoots 3's too?! wow.
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| 154 | Gmoney
ID: 4511101521
Wed, Oct 31, 2012, 22:30
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too much can be made of 1 game but if you are looking at "steal of the draft", here are some candidates:
1. Hawes
2. Varejao
3. A. Miller
4. Vasquez
then higher pick guys:
1. Harden
2. Lowery
3. Holiday
4. Noah
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| 155 | Donkey Hunter
ID: 377261315
Thu, Nov 01, 2012, 08:37
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Eric GOrdon out indefinitely.
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| 156 | Toral
ID: 35518118
Sat, Nov 03, 2012, 15:19
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Pachulia replaces Turkuglu.
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| 157 | Pacers Rule
Leader
ID: 910311210
Sun, Nov 04, 2012, 16:25
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Please continue any 'official' communication in the regular season thread.
Feel free to communicate in an unofficial capacity in any thread you like ;)
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