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0 Subject: RIHC AAA#2 2016-17

Posted by: TD - Leader [036331011] Tue, Sep 27, 2016, 22:57

ESPN league invites have been sent to all managers. If you did not receive an invite, please send me an email.

Managers are:
TD
artofmonk
Bean
Blue Hen
Species
fear the monkey
GO
mailedfoot
s_R
Team Robs
twolves
weykool

I am looking forward to a competitive season.

TD
1TD
      ID: 87161216
      Tue, Sep 27, 2016, 23:12
ESPN RIHC AAA#2 2016-17

League rules are the same as RHIC:
12 teams
Rotisserie scoring: Points, Rebounds, Assists, Steals, Blocks, 3 pointers, FG%, FT%
Roster size: 16
Starters(12): PG,SG,G,G,PF,SF,F,F,C,C,U,U
No injured reserve
84 game limit per slot (enforced by position)
Do not observe ESPN undroppable list
Lineup changes lock individually at gametime
Waivers: 1 day period, no limit
Waiver order: move to end after claim
Trade deadline: Wed, March 15
Commissioner veto
Trade review period: 1 day
No keepers
Offline draft

The draft will be held at Draftime.com and begin on Tuesday October 11.
2 Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Wed, Sep 28, 2016, 18:16
Thanks for Commishing TD.

While I am here, we have 1 confirmed opening in G20 Hoops league and are likely to have a 2nd. Would you like to REALLY test your mettle against 19 other teams in a true Dynasty Keeper league? This is the place to find out!

If you are interested or know a strong Hoops player that might be, please let me know.
3TD
      Leader
      ID: 036331011
      Sun, Oct 02, 2016, 10:49
Still waiting for artofmonk and twolves to sign up. Sent a 2nd invite.
4 TD
      Leader
      ID: 036331011
      Mon, Oct 03, 2016, 07:49
Draftime invites have been sent to all managers. If you have not received an invite, please send me an email.
5artofmonk
      ID: 43931310
      Mon, Oct 03, 2016, 11:31
I am registered for espn and draftime.
6GO
      ID: 388562222
      Mon, Oct 03, 2016, 21:57
Blue Hen does basketball? believe i'm registered everywhere. Hopefully he's as good as he was in RIBC.

Reminder Kafenatid now has pre-ranked like 100 players you can auto-import into your pre-rank. Don't think Fred has the order in there yet, but just wait.
7twolves
      Dude
      ID: 811161317
      Tue, Oct 04, 2016, 18:08
I was not able to join on ESPN. I see I am invited as team 11 but would not let me join. I was able to join draft.
8TD
      Leader
      ID: 036331011
      Tue, Oct 04, 2016, 19:35
twolves: Sent you another invite thru espn and forwarded you a copy of it. I get a copy of each espn invite sent, and the one I forwarded to you previously was for a different manager. I did not realize each manager got a different invite link.
9TD
      Leader
      ID: 036331011
      Wed, Oct 05, 2016, 09:47
Everyone has signed up on ESPN. Blue Hen, mailedfoot, and Team Robs still need to sign up on draftime.
10TD
      Leader
      ID: 036331011
      Wed, Oct 05, 2016, 09:57
I plan to begin the draft on Tuesday October 11.

Guru provided this random list of managers for selecting draft position.

1 Blue Hen
2 s_R
3 Bean
4 TD
5 mailedfoot
6 fear the monkey
7 weykool
8 Species
9 twolves
10 Team Robs
11 artofmonk
12 GO

This is only the order that is used to select draft position. However, the reverse of this order will be the waiver priority order to start the season (i.e, GO first, Blue Hen last.)

The draft is a standard snake, 16 rounds.
11TD
      Leader
      ID: 036331011
      Wed, Oct 05, 2016, 10:04
Draft selection is starting now. If anyone fails to pick after 24 hours he will be skipped and can pick when available.

1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.

Blue Hen is up.
12blue hen
      ID: 5254718
      Wed, Oct 05, 2016, 11:10
1. Blue Hen
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.

s_R is up
13Bean
      ID: 41052279
      Wed, Oct 05, 2016, 17:30
I'll take #2 or #3 if its taken when I am up.
14s R
      ID: 4734262
      Thu, Oct 06, 2016, 02:58
1. Blue Hen
2. s R
3. Bean
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.

TD is up
15TD
      Leader
      ID: 036331011
      Thu, Oct 06, 2016, 07:15
1. Blue Hen
2. s R
3. Bean
4. TD
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.

mailedfoot is up
16mailedfoot
      ID: 27912109
      Thu, Oct 06, 2016, 07:54
1. Blue Hen
2. s R
3. Bean
4. TD
5. mailedfoot
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.

fear the monkey is up
17 fear the monkey
      ID: 15734920
      Thu, Oct 06, 2016, 09:19
# 6 please
18TD
      Leader
      ID: 036331011
      Thu, Oct 06, 2016, 09:28
1. Blue Hen
2. s R
3. Bean
4. TD
5. mailedfoot
6. fear the monkey
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.

weykool is up
19weykool
      ID: 386101420
      Thu, Oct 06, 2016, 12:12
1. Blue Hen
2. s R
3. Bean
4. TD
5. mailedfoot
6. fear the monkey
7. weykool
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.

Species is up.
20Species
      ID: 46252312
      Thu, Oct 06, 2016, 13:33
1. blue hen
2. s R
3.Bean
4. TD
5. Mailedfoot
6.fear the monkey
7. Weykool
8.
9.
10. Species
11.
12.

twolves next
21twolves
      Dude
      ID: 811161317
      Fri, Oct 07, 2016, 13:41
1. blue hen
2. s R
3.Bean
4. TD
5. Mailedfoot
6.fear the monkey
7. Weykool
8. Twolves
9.
10. Species
11.
12.

Team Robs up
22Artofmonk
      ID: 1123288
      Fri, Oct 07, 2016, 19:05
Sorry posting out of turn. I will take 9 or 11th.
23TD
      Leader
      ID: 036331011
      Sat, Oct 08, 2016, 15:05
Sent Team Robs an email. If he does not pick by tomorrow morning he will be skipped.
24 TD
      Leader
      ID: 036331011
      Sat, Oct 08, 2016, 15:53
mailedfoot: Please sign up on draftime so we can start the draft on Tuesday. Sent you a few invites but you have not signed up yet. If you have an issue signing up, please post here or send me an email.
25 mailedfoot
      ID: 128391010
      Sat, Oct 08, 2016, 22:44
Have not received any draft invites...
26TD
      Leader
      ID: 036331011
      Sun, Oct 09, 2016, 10:02
Replied to email received from mailedfoot with another invite.
27TD
      Leader
      ID: 036331011
      Sun, Oct 09, 2016, 10:08
Skipping Team Robs.

1. blue hen
2. s R
3.Bean
4. TD
5. Mailedfoot
6.fear the monkey
7. Weykool
8. Twolves
9. Artofmonk
10. Species
11.
12.

GO is up.
28 Robs
      ID: 58940912
      Sun, Oct 09, 2016, 13:41
Weak. Its thanksgiving weekend guys, we're all busy. Couldnt get to it.
And you skipped me instead of just putting me in at 9?
I would have taken 9, Ill take 12 now.
29GO
      ID: 388562222
      Sun, Oct 09, 2016, 17:43
and its Arbor Day in Poland and I'm 1/16th Polish AND World Homeless Day! no respect. skip right over me on my special day. Guess. I'm stuck with 11.
30TD
      Leader
      ID: 036331011
      Sun, Oct 09, 2016, 18:08
GO - Sorry about not giving you any respect. :)

Robs - I will refrain from commenting on your post.
31TD
      Leader
      ID: 036331011
      Sun, Oct 09, 2016, 18:13
I will start the draft at 9am EDT Tuesday. There will be a 4 hour clock after the first round is completed. Although there is no 1st round clock, you are expected to pick promptly during the 1st round.

Draft order is

1. blue hen
2. s R
3. Bean
4. TD
5. Mailedfoot
6. fear the monkey
7. Weykool
8. Twolves
9. Artofmonk
10. Species
11. GO
12. Team Robs
32TD
      Leader
      ID: 036331011
      Sun, Oct 09, 2016, 18:14
mailedfoot - I sent a draftime invite to your alternate email. If you don't get it, let me know and I will post the invite on this thread.
33mailedfoot
      ID: 531322718
      Sun, Oct 09, 2016, 19:31
Got it...signed in for draft now
34weykool
      ID: 54011222
      Mon, Oct 10, 2016, 13:50
Thanksgiving is an all day event for 3 days?
I agree 100% that we are all busy, but there is no valid complaint if you cant check in for 3 mins a day if your draft position means that much to you.
You could have also posted out of turn asking for the earliest pick.
35Robs
      ID: 58940912
      Mon, Oct 10, 2016, 16:41
Let's just all agree that I get KA-Towns and I'll get over it pretty quick
36TD
      Leader
      ID: 036331011
      Tue, Oct 11, 2016, 08:24
The draft has started. Starting at 8am Thursday, there will be a 4 hour clock from 8am thru 12am EDT including weekends.
37artofmonk
      ID: 43931310
      Wed, Oct 12, 2016, 15:05
i am not sure if I will get any traction here, but I am up in a couple of picks. Is anyone interested in making a trade for my 3rd pick? I would want your 4th and 5th rd pick and I would include my 6th.
38GO
      ID: 17312218
      Wed, Oct 12, 2016, 19:06
Is there a time limit turned on?
39TD
      Leader
      ID: 036331011
      Wed, Oct 12, 2016, 21:05
A 4 hour clock will be turned on tomorrow morning.

I emailed weykool a couple of hours ago.
40weykool
      ID: 386101420
      Wed, Oct 12, 2016, 22:33
Sorry guys had to run my mom to the doctor.
I had limited access but your e-mail went to spam.
Should be fixed going forward.
41TD
      Leader
      ID: 036331011
      Thu, Oct 13, 2016, 08:20
Draft is stopped until it is payment is made. Sent email to guru who will take care of this.

When draft is restarted, I will set up the 4 hour clock.
42twolves
      Dude
      ID: 811161317
      Thu, Oct 13, 2016, 08:33
So is that why I cannot get in or do anything on the site?


Thanks. I got an email--Is it really my turn as I cannot see beyond 4.01? I like to know for planning if not up and running soon as leaving on plane this afternoon.
43Roberts
      ID: 0937137
      Thu, Oct 13, 2016, 08:37
It let me make my 3.12 pick but then the draft stopped and I couldn't make 4.01. I think that's where it should be now.
44TD
      Leader
      ID: 036331011
      Thu, Oct 13, 2016, 08:51
Draft was paid for last week so it should not have been stopped. Guru sent email Fred at draftime to get the draft started again.
45TD
      Leader
      ID: 036331011
      Thu, Oct 13, 2016, 08:54
Because the draft is currently locked, I will wait until tomorrow morning to start the clock.
46artofmonk
      ID: 43931310
      Thu, Oct 13, 2016, 11:03
TD, can you send an email out when the draft has started again, please.
47Species
      ID: 46252312
      Thu, Oct 13, 2016, 11:20
I didn't set up a queue.

I am in a jury trial and about to be locked in a room for 4 hours. If the draft restarts and I do not pick quickly.....that is why.
48artofmonk
      ID: 43931310
      Thu, Oct 13, 2016, 11:40
species you could send TD a queue and I am sure he could pick for you.

I vote guilty.
49 TD
      Leader
      ID: 036331011
      Thu, Oct 13, 2016, 12:33
Anyone can send me a queue and I will pick for you once the draft starts.
50TD
      Leader
      ID: 036331011
      Thu, Oct 13, 2016, 12:37
Drafted is now restarted.
51Bean
      ID: 41052279
      Thu, Oct 13, 2016, 13:04
Not for me
52twolves
      Dude
      ID: 811161317
      Thu, Oct 13, 2016, 13:23
Or me either as site indicates still stopped.
53artofmonk
      ID: 43931310
      Thu, Oct 13, 2016, 13:42
still stopped for me as well.
54TD
      Leader
      ID: 036331011
      Thu, Oct 13, 2016, 14:29
I did not realize I had to hit a button to Resume it. It should be restarted now. Can somebody confirm?

I was able to see the draft and override picks. But it was still stopped.
55Roberts
      ID: 0937137
      Thu, Oct 13, 2016, 14:30
Back up and running, confirmed.
Rudy Gobert!!
56weykool
      ID: 386101420
      Thu, Oct 13, 2016, 14:31
Confirmed.

I have never been on a jury but believe I would be a great jurist. I can spot a guilty person just by looking at them.
57artofmonk
      ID: 43931310
      Thu, Oct 13, 2016, 14:51
did you get anything from species or are we on a 4 hour wait.
58Species
      ID: 46252312
      Thu, Oct 13, 2016, 23:10
Do we want to do rationales?
59Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Fri, Oct 14x, 2016, 03:36
Anyone interested in a small trade down? My 5.10 and 6.03 for your 5th and 6th.
60TD
      Leader
      ID: 036331011
      Fri, Oct 14x, 2016, 09:07
Turned on 4 hour draft clock. It will run 8am thru 12am EDT including weekends.
61TD
      Leader
      ID: 036331011
      Fri, Oct 14x, 2016, 11:46
If you create a thread, I will post some rationales. At least for the early round picks. However it won't be required that everyone posts rationales in this league.
62GO
      ID: 17312218
      Fri, Oct 14x, 2016, 12:37
I can't do every pick but definitely want everyone to do the summary one when this is over. Best picks, worst picks etc.
63 fear the monkey
      ID: 15734920
      Sun, Oct 16, 2016, 12:18
I had two picks for rd 10 and none were P Beverly. I should have got John Henson
64TD
      Leader
      ID: 036331011
      Sun, Oct 16, 2016, 12:54
I stopped the draft. Do you want me to change the pick to Henson?
65 Fear the monkey
      ID: 459311614
      Sun, Oct 16, 2016, 15:31
Plaese
66TD
      ID: 309561614
      Sun, Oct 16, 2016, 15:57
Changed pick and restarted draft.
67 fear the monkey
      ID: 15734920
      Sun, Oct 16, 2016, 21:48
can you draft players not listed at draftime?
68Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Sun, Oct 16, 2016, 23:32
Sorry for the delay guys. Gone pretty much all weekend.....queue depleted. Getting my queue back up to speed tonight.
69Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Oct 17, 2016, 00:42
LOL.......and that's what I get for rushing. Totally slipped my mind that Simmons was hurt. Oops
70TD
      Leader
      ID: 036331011
      Mon, Oct 17, 2016, 08:18
You can draft a player not listed at draftime.

Announce your pick on this thread, and pick an injured player that is out all year that is listed on draftime. An example is Nikola Pekovic.

If the player you pick is the ESPN database, I will add him to your roster.
71 fear the monkey
      ID: 15734920
      Mon, Oct 17, 2016, 12:10
ok Tom with pick 12.07 please give me J.R.Smith SG CLEV. THANKS DAN
72TD
      Leader
      ID: 036331011
      Mon, Oct 17, 2016, 15:08
I emailed drafttime and got J.R. Smith added to database. And then changed pick 12.07 to J.R. Smith.
73 fear the monkey
      ID: 15734920
      Mon, Oct 17, 2016, 22:00
thanks Tom
74TD
      Leader
      ID: 036331011
      Tue, Oct 18, 2016, 19:02
The draft is complete. Thank you to all owners for making this an easy draft to manage with no missed picks.

Rosters are loaded into ESPN. Let me know if there are any mistakes.

All available players are on waivers.
75weykool
      ID: 386101420
      Tue, Oct 18, 2016, 19:21
Awesome job TD.
76Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Oct 24, 2016, 13:53
Team Species draft recap:
I have always loved the RIHC/RIBC leagues. The depth of these leagues gives me focus for my other leagues, as you really have to organize well and know your stuff to compete. It is a great time.

Draft selection:
I could have had any spot after 7th. But in looking at the top 7, it was obvious that the top 5 (Curry, Westbrook, Harden, Durant and Towns) would be gone, and likely Chris Paul at either 6 or 7. After that, there is a pretty big swath of players that are fairly close together: LeBron, Kawhi, George, Boogie, Giannis, George, etc that all could make a claim for the 7th or 8th pick. As such, I worked backwards and crafted a strategy that got me a big man in Round 1 and a top PG in round 2. I figured one of Lillard or Lowry would get to me there. I was almost right – but it was John Wall that fell (I pegged him as having gone already in my scenario) and I was scared off by his knees. Still, the plan worked out as I thought….just not the guys I wanted.

Key draft picks:
1.10 DeMarcus Cousins, C, SAC: In a non-TO league, Cousins is a beast. I would have taken Davis if he had fallen, but it was Cousins who I thought would be here at this pick. I was very surprised to see Leonard still here and I nearly took him……..but decided to stick to the plan and get an elite C.

2.03 Paul George, SF, IND: Well, so much for Plan A. I correctly surmised that I would have my choice of the last of the top of Tier 2 PGs………..but I miscalculated and thought Wall would already be gone, leaving me (most likely) Lowry here. Ooops. I was scared by Wall’s knees so I went safe and took Paul George. Irving and Kemba were well below George in my rankings and I could not justify passing on such a stud.

3.10 Serge Ibaka, PF, ORL: I would have taken Klay if he fell, but mainly just for the best value. As the 3rd round unfolded, the only PG I would have still taken was Thomas, but he was gone at 3.06. Serge stood out as a strong value at this spot. He will be a valuable contributor with great ratios (particularly FT for a big), better scoring in ORL, decent rebounding and strong blocks.

4.03 Jeff Teague, PG, IND: It sickens me to take a guy like this here, but it is the nature of RIHC….PGs are gold (apparently) and I was one of the few who didn’t have one. Teague is boring but steady.

5.10 Brandon Knight, PG/SG, PHO: Not a big fan, but again when the pickings are slim you either take something with a bruise or a little mold on it, or you get out of the kitchen. Knight stood out as one of the better PG-ish guys out there (over other flawed guys like Jackson, Lavine, Lin, Payton, Collison, etc) so I took him.

6.03 Marcin Gortat, C, WAS: A steady C on a good team with a non-torpedo-ing FT (70%) who scores decently and gets a block or so.

Favorite late picks: I really liked getting Rodney Hood at 9.10 and particularly Teletovic at 14.03. From other teams, Biyombo at 13.06, Barton at 13.04 and Mudiay at 11.07 were pretty sweet.

Biggest draft regrets: The steal of the draft – even before Beverley went down – was easily Eric Gordon at 11.05. Why the F**K I took Harrison Barnes over him at 10.03 is beyond me (the answer is I was on jury duty and not paying enough attention, but I digress). I had targeted him as a steal and just missed it. My other regret was Simmons at 11.10, who I neglected to realize was going to be hurt and out two months.

I haven’t been able to really scout the other teams to see who is the favorite. Looking forward to a great season.
77GO
      ID: 388562222
      Tue, Oct 25, 2016, 23:26
Good stuff Species. From the regular RIHC thread, I'll try and do one of these and maybe a few other can participate too. Always an interesting read.

1) Did you have a specific strategy going in? Did it go as expected?
2) What surprised you?
3) How did your approach change as things unfolded?
4) If you had to do it over, what would you do differently?
5) Your best and worst pick, in retrospect.
6) The 2 or 3 picks by other managers that you thought were especially good steals.
7) 2 or 3 players that were selected higher than you had expected.
8) If you had to trade your own team for one other owner's team in the league, whose would you want it to be?
78twolves
      Dude
      ID: 811161317
      Mon, Oct 31, 2016, 20:55
1) Did you have a specific strategy going in? Did it go as expected?
In general take best player available based on 2017 projections for first 5-6 rounds but at least one PG in there. It went pretty much as expected as Guru leagues tend to draft a lot of PG early.

2) What surprised you?
The draft moved fairly quickly early and a lot of PG disappeared in the first 3 rounds but probably should have known from prior experience but still get surprised every year.

3) How did your approach change as things unfolded?
1.08 Took A. Davis--seemed like best player there. Was hoping Chris Paul would fall to me.

2.05 Was looking at Lillard or Wall but they got taken just in front of me. Probably should have taken K. Irving but had Butler rated ahead of him--in 20/20 hindsight not sure why anymore.

3.08 Klay Thompson--Despite Durant being there had him rated as top 3-point man after Curry. Hard to resist. The PG I wanted Isiah Thomas went.

4.05 Rondo--I panicked and took PG after Russell and McCollum, and Teague went. Liked Rondo despite FT% for assists over Rubio or Conley's all around game.

5.08 Tobias Harri--Was hoping a timberwolf would fall to me--Dieng or Wiggins. Would have taken DeRozan as had him above Harris but went with Forward since had K. Thompson and there were a lot of SG in available. I collected too many over the latter part of draft.

6.05 Myles Turner on potential as needed a center although it looked like he was a PF only at time of draft but it sounded like he would be playing center position and hopefully become center eligible.

4) If you had to do it over, what would you do differently?
Probably taken Irving in second round and Kanter instead of Lens later in 20/20 hindsight.

5) Your best and worst pick, in retrospect.

Hopefully the best will be A. Davis and Butler who might also be worst pick for not taking Irving.

6) The 2 or 3 picks by other managers that you thought were especially good steals.

Zach Lavine @7.07 as I would have snapped him up at 7.08 and almost took him at 6.05 but needed a big.
Rodney Hood @ 9.01

JR @ 12.07 as he was not listed until late and if he had been seen earlier I would have taken him.

Steven Adams @ 11.02

7) 2 or 3 players that were selected higher than you had expected.

D. Jordan--bad FT
Ben Simmons--injured
J. Murray--rookie with deep denver guards but Harris injured could justify this pick

8) If you had to trade your own team for one other owner's team in the league, whose would you want it to be?
I like my team but I like Gurudan, Species and Mailedfoot teams too.
79Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Thu, Nov 10, 2016, 12:37
Looking for blocks and have several SF/PF types that offer different stengths and weaknesses: Otto Porter, Harrison Barnes, Marcus Morris and TJ Warren to trade.
80blue hen
      ID: 5254718
      Fri, Jan 06, 2017, 09:35
I'm looking for steals and blocks from a PF. I can offer guards. Oh so many guards.
81Bean
      ID: 27592412
      Thu, Feb 16, 2017, 10:01
Love it. Get to stay in first for the All Star break. May not see it again with the loss of Jabari Parker for the season.
82Bean
      ID: 27592412
      Thu, Apr 13, 2017, 01:33
Grats Foot. Tried to give ya a run for your money but kinda started to fizzle out the last week.

Last two or three days was looking over my shoulder at Species and sR. All came down to the last day for the 2nd and 3rd spot, and a bid for the Championship League next year. Was checking every stat, and watching every rest announcement.
83blue hen
      ID: 5254718
      Thu, Apr 13, 2017, 10:33
Congrats Foot. This league was close top to bottom all season. Looks like I dealt Westbrook just a little too late, and ran out of PG room too early. Thanks for a great season, everyone.
84Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Thu, Apr 13, 2017, 14:54
Congrats Foot and Bean. Yeah, I should have been more diligent with GP (and quality GP) over the last month. Fell just short.
85twolves
      Dude
      ID: 811161317
      Thu, Apr 13, 2017, 17:56
Congrats to Foot and Bean. Congrats also to species and sr as I could never seem to catch them all season.
86mailedfoot
      ID: 532131615
      Thu, Apr 13, 2017, 21:23
Thanks everyone. This was a tough league and fortunately I had some players who performed really well down the stretch.
87TD
      Leader
      ID: 036331011
      Thu, Apr 13, 2017, 21:26
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