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0 Subject: Things that make you go...WTF? (part three)

Posted by: Tree
- [2310201719] Fri, Nov 17, 2006, 21:22

nearly 500 posts in on the last thread, probably time to start a new one.

and let's start with a classic from our friend, Bill O'Reilly, who must seriously have lost his mind after the election a few weeks back...

he sort of goes on this whacky rant about OJ Simpson and George Tiller, then really starts to go off on the upcoming OJ Simpson TV special...

So here's what I'm going to do as a citizen. I'm not going to watch the Simpson show or even look at the book. I'm not even going to look at it. If any company sponsors the TV program, I will not buy anything that company sells — ever.

um, Bill does realize that FOX - who he acknowledges will be airing the show - also airs O'Reilly's show?? and that this whole rant is hosted on the FOX website?

so, um..is O'Reilly going to boycott FOX?
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1230Boldwin
      ID: 591522719
      Wed, Feb 27, 2013, 20:53
I didn't quote her saying "we are not at odds with the Ayatollah Komeini".

I inferred it because she pointedly refused to allow the presumption that she was among the former Iranian elite, and was persona non-grata. No no, it was just a misunderstanding, just an administration snafu or something was the tone she used. Why else would she be in denial mode?

I hadn't seen the part about the brother, but I had seen the rest of the quote.
1231Boldwin
      ID: 591522719
      Wed, Feb 27, 2013, 20:57
When you see me say, In otherwords, you know that is me clarifying or summarizing.
1232Boldwin
      ID: 591522719
      Wed, Feb 27, 2013, 21:02
1233Boldwin
      ID: 591522719
      Wed, Feb 27, 2013, 21:04
Woodward: Obama's Decision Not To Deploy Carrier "A Kind Of Madness"

Also Woodward makes the point that Obama has conceded that he was responsible for the sequester which will come as a shock to PD and others around here.
1234Tree
      ID: 1910562515
      Wed, Feb 27, 2013, 22:00
When you see me say, In otherwords, you know that is me clarifying or summarizing coming up with a completely different meaning, one that suits my argument, regardless of whether it's accurate or not.

you made a typo. i fixed it.
1235Boldwin
      ID: 22130283
      Thu, Feb 28, 2013, 04:41
BTW, people who left Iran around the time of the revolution, don't have to explain. Everyone assumes they were more favorably disposed to the Shah and that their lives would be in danger there.

None of that for Amanpour, nope. Gotta make it clear her's wasn't the obvious reason.
1236Boldwin
      ID: 58251117
      Fri, Mar 01, 2013, 18:52
Why probably only MITH, out of everyone here, has any hope of seeing the light.
1237Boldwin
      ID: 252530
      Sun, Mar 03, 2013, 04:24
Wow, could not find any of our old threads about the 9/11 pentagon attack.

There is just no way anyone can listen to former General Stubblebine explain why the official version of events of 9/11 are hogwash and not be effected.

Starting with the exact same starting point as my conversion to skeptic. No wingmarks on the pentagon. From there the whole media construct came crashing down for him.
1238Boldwin
      ID: 27228104
      Sun, Mar 10, 2013, 05:31
China for the first time ever looks at N. Korea and sees it as the dangerous crazy state it is.

Formerly just deranged, now nuclear armed and potent they are becoming grandiose delusional. Half a year ago China was promoting cross border business. N.K. hasn't been returning their phone calls.
1239Boldwin
      ID: 513861
      Sat, Apr 06, 2013, 02:09
I don't read the Enquirer but I think the covers are a hoot. I imagine these writers getting together dreaming up the funniest stories they can imagine.

I think something similar was going on here. He just threw in everything and the kitchen sink. Disinfo agent with a funnybone on a good day.

Anything to keep the sheep distracted.
1240biliruben
      ID: 21841115
      Sat, Apr 06, 2013, 09:40
Yeah, those are hysterical! I have a couple other favorites too!

Iraqi's secretly marching across Jordon to capture Jerusalem!

Wiccans turning our kids into worshipers of the anti-Christ!

Oh, wait...
1241Tree
      ID: 323869
      Sat, Apr 06, 2013, 10:08
homosexuals making us all turn gay!

the legalization of abortion being why people are poor!

keep 'em coming!

1242Pancho Villa
      ID: 59645318
      Wed, Apr 10, 2013, 19:38
Jane Fonda to play...Nancy Reagan in movie.

Nancy Reagan herself actually gave her blessing to the casting of Fonda
1243Boldwin
      ID: 16361119
      Thu, Apr 11, 2013, 20:07
Since there's been no war in their lifetime, I'm guessing the medals are for...



...fellow officers turned in to the DHS perhaps.
1244Boldwin
      ID: 47321920
      Sat, Apr 20, 2013, 01:44
Illinois flooding is historic. I'm downriver from this failing dam. Break away barges banging on the dam. Wild stuff. Tho I'm high enuff I'm not directly threatened. A very prolonged rain recently but never seen spring flooding this late in the season so long after snows melted and ground had a good start thawing.
1245Perm Dude
      ID: 201027169
      Mon, Apr 22, 2013, 20:43
Presented without any fücking shít commentary
1246Boldwin
      ID: 25332317
      Wed, Apr 24, 2013, 07:37
Boring boring boring...wait a second...what?



Mummified by the desert this tiny baby was found in Chile as dried out mummies often are there...

yawn

The head is distended in classical SciFi fashion exciting the UFO crowd...

yawn

It has nine ribs...

yawn

They made a documentary of it thus teasing the UFO crowd to no end, which proved with DNA analysis it was 100% human...

yawn

It died around 6-8 years old!!!

WTF!?! What??? Freaky! That moves the boundaries of the possible a fair piece. Imagine that family life.
1247Boldwin
      ID: 73292421
      Thu, Apr 25, 2013, 00:26
In the days leading up to fully realized 1984 the hacked media is telling the truth the media won't.
1248Tree
      ID: 38322228
      Thu, Apr 25, 2013, 01:13
personally, i'm glad that bunker you're hunkering down in has internet access. because you are bringing the crazy, and i am entertained. thank you for being a loon.
1249Boldwin
      ID: 73292421
      Thu, Apr 25, 2013, 04:59
Scientist at Stanford. Gary Nolan
"My interest, frankly, is to disprove that it's anything unusual or anything paranormal," Nolan said prior to beginning his DNA study of the small portions of Ata he was allowed to work with. "I would like to prove that this is human [and] just an interesting mutation. In every situation with scientists, your reputation's at stake. I have every expectation that even doing this is going to lead to some ribbing from some of my colleagues."

One of the leading theories going into the DNA testing was that Ata may have been an unborn fetus. But, even that turned out to be incorrect, according to Nolan's surprising (or not, depending on your point of view) conclusions of his investigation.

"The sequence that we got from the mitochondria [energy factories of cells] tells us with extremely high confidence that the mother was an indigenous Indian from the Chilean area. The other thing that immediately fell out of the analysis is that it's male. It probably died in the last century, if I were to make a guess."

Nolan concedes he entered this study thinking that DNA was the answer, but then realized there were other biology questions about Ata that still needed to be understood and answered. He plans to eventually publish his findings after more analysis.
Also discussed in depth here.

I expected it to be a debunking and sure enuff it was. Nothing alien about it. Then what was truly crazy. The Stanford scientist casually puts in there that the baby lived to age 6-8.

Stanford's got a pretty good reputation. Harvard of the west.

The movie the investigation was included in, having been disappointed by DNA analysis, had to spin off into some 'if the baby wasn't alien then the energy technology involved was', hokum in which I have no interest or belief.
1250bibA
      ID: 54522612
      Sun, Apr 28, 2013, 11:46
Mother claims The Diary of Ann Frank is porn, wants it pulled from school library
1251Perm Dude
      ID: 201027169
      Sun, Apr 28, 2013, 12:01
There is an abridged version (actually, a further abridged version) which cuts out most of that yucky stuff, like her liking a boy, etc. Makes her out to be more of a sexless Holocaust saint.
1252Boldwin
      ID: 494571610
      Thu, May 16, 2013, 14:06
Father of four beaten to death by nine sheriffs while handcuffed behind his back.

The witness who recorded it on her phone, sat surrounded by detectives in her home, seized the phone before the warrant arrived, threatened 'give phone up the easy way or the hard way'.
1253Tree
      ID: 254471611
      Thu, May 16, 2013, 14:29
Father of four beaten to death by nine sheriffs while handcuffed behind his back.

if this is true, then we'll see it elsewhere. for now, i'll take with a grain of salt any news coming from a site called "Mr. Conservative" and with a banner touting the "breaking news" that British National Archives Confirm Obama Sr. Had A Child in 1961 Kenya
1254Mith
      ID: 4310402110
      Thu, May 16, 2013, 14:54
HuffPo on the incident. Their report cites the NY Times, the LA Times, KTLA and FOX News.
1255Tree
      ID: 254471611
      Thu, May 16, 2013, 15:00
sometimes, all you want is for a news site to at least attempt to even look legit. thanks.
1256Boldwin
      ID: 504361623
      Fri, May 17, 2013, 14:19
Huffpo:
Venue cancels BDSM event for not being family-friendly -- event organizers file for restraining order
Huffpo unclear on the concept of 'news'.
1257Boldwin
      ID: 524281815
      Sat, May 18, 2013, 18:09
Would have loved to see this reviewed by Keith Ratliff in his enormously entertaining and popular FPSRussia website but he's mysteriously dead all of a sudden.

Or reviewed by Chris Kyle but he's mysteriously dead all of a sudden...

Or reviewed by John Noveske but he's mysteriously dead all of a sudden...



Gear & Gadgets / Product News & Reviews
$17,000 Linux-powered rifle brings “auto-aim” to the real world

It has the potential to replace 'shoot stuff and mount' with 'share the shot with your buddies in realtime, and just not take the shot'. Catch and release for big game.



Cause really, you would not have missed.
1258Tree
      ID: 564211423
      Sun, May 19, 2013, 01:06
reviewed by Keith Ratliff in his enormously entertaining and popular FPSRussia website but he's mysteriously dead all of a sudden.

Or reviewed by Chris Kyle but he's mysteriously dead all of a sudden...

Or reviewed by John Noveske but he's mysteriously dead all of a sudden...


there's nothing mysterious at all about the deaths of the first two. they lived by the gun, they died by the gun. if guns are an important part of your life, it's reasonable to presume you might meet your end in a violent way.

the third died in a car crash.
1259Boldwin
      ID: 364171912
      Sun, May 19, 2013, 13:30
Next time I point out RTBA advocates getting whacked in suspicious clusters, I'll include the caveat, 'or as Tree would consider it - appropriate gun deaths'.
1260Tree
      ID: 564211423
      Sun, May 19, 2013, 14:24
'or as Tree would consider it - appropriate gun deaths'

which of course, would be another lie.

Kyle was killed because he was foolhardy with gun usage. he trusted someone he shouldn't have trusted.

Ratliff was shot in the head in his office. There have been numerous (unsubstantiated) reports on various blogs (sources that you use as if they are the end all, be all, but i'll use with the "unsubstantiated" disclaimer) that Ratliff scammed and defrauded quite a few people.

there are reports he was convicted of sexual assault a dozen or so years ago.

there have been rumors that he abused girlfriends prior to his marriage. there are stories of him not being faithful.

murder isn't appropriate, and even if he was guilty of all the above, he didn't deserve to be killed for any or all of them

but considering he wasn't robbed of money or any of the guns surrounding him when he died in his business office, it wouldn't shocking that someone who was pissed off put a bullet in his head.

again - let me be clear - this are all things from some random blog post i found by googling the guy's name. i don't particular consider that an indisputable source, but you often do, so in this case, what's good for the goose, is good for the gander.
1261sarge33rd
      ID: 4609710
      Sun, May 19, 2013, 15:44
sort of goes back to what Larry the Cable Guy said, "Guns dont kill people.....but husbands who come home from work early; do."
1262Boldwin
      ID: 4429213
      Tue, May 21, 2013, 05:56
This is a rather large and strangely hidden story.

One of the most successful false messiahs in Jewish history became a muslim in his last ten years of life [to save his life]. The effects were large because the following was large. These followers are still around having God knows what effect.

The Sabbateans.

Strange tales of kabbala, a possible connection with sufi islam, strange Albanian tales, accusations of people who were supposedly secret Sabbateans. The field left open for Hasidism by this figure turning islamic, the connection between Sabbateans and secularism...there are library shelves full of intrigue and interesting historical material here that have not reached the attention of the outside world.
1263Boldwin
      ID: 4429213
      Tue, May 21, 2013, 06:01
Wow, the most islamicized of them, the Dönmeh were largely instrumental in secularizing Turkey in the 'Young Turk' and the Attaturk movements.
1264Boldwin
      ID: 4429213
      Tue, May 21, 2013, 07:05
Sweden - Europe's leading social experiment in sheep creation.
If the Swedish system celebrates kids who are great at sports while all but punishing kids who stand out academically (“Excellence of bodies yes, brains no”), part of the reason is a fanatical devotion to equality of result, and part is an awareness that kids with first-rate minds are potential critics of the system. Hence socialism’s preference for mediocrity over excellence.

And, one might add, for social science over hard science. Yes, Sweden awards Nobel Prizes in chemistry, physics, and medicine, but its educational system discourages an interest in math and science – because, you see, experts in these fields end up serving industry, which exploits workers and produces environmentally hazardous waste. For decades, consequently, Sweden has suffered a deficit of scientists, engineers, doctors, and technicians. Students who choose to enter these fields, furthermore, tend to be so ill-prepared that they “need remedial classes.” There’s also a lack of plumbers, construction workers, and other laborers – for just as Sweden’s social engineers distrust science, they look down on vocations involving manual labor.

Swedes...have been efficiently trained to view any expression of unease over state-run education as “deranged” and to accept the socialist proposition that children belong not to their parents but to the state.

Socialists recognize members of the middle class, who are all too frequently driven by an ambition to better their circumstances, as a potential threat to the authority of socialists, whose machinations make such ambitions harder to fulfill. How to nip this nuisance in the bud? Easy: impose sky-high taxes on them. For, as Sjunnesson points out, people who have been able to accumulate some savings in the bank are better positioned to “stand up against authority” and “rise with self-confidence”; they’re not “as servile as if they had nothing.” Sweden’s tax system, then, is designed to make it extremely hard for Swedes to save money – and it works: compared to other Western countries, “Swedes have unusually small amounts of savings.” And consequently, people who might otherwise be vocal critics of the socialist welfare state are very aware of being dependent on it, knowing that if they get sick or lose their jobs they won’t have their own resources to fall back on. Confiscatory tax, then, serves not only as a means of enriching and expanding the socialist state, but as a form, itself, of socialist control.

They’re afflicted with a “silent conformism,” the result of a “spiral of silence” driven by a “fear of exclusion” and a perceived need to maintain a social order founded on perceived consensus views. Whether the perceived consensus views actually are the consensus views doesn’t matter: “When no opposing views are heard, people do not believe there are any even if they themselves dissent.” Those who do dare to dissent are branded as extreme – even though those “extreme” views may be thoroughly mainstream in other Western countries – and are often targeted for violence by self-styled “anti-fascists” who behave exactly like fascists. Sweden is, note well, a country in which members of the anti-establishment Sweden Democrats Party are demonized for dissenting civilly and peacefully, while certain entertainers are celebrated for singing about their desire to commit acts of violence against Sweden Democrats.

the system rewards irresponsibility on the part of young unmarried mothers and the men who impregnate them. (“With a baby, a single parent sidesteps all waiting lines and the child may be the only means to an apartment for decades.”) About a national self-hatred so fierce that “schools have asked pupils not to wear [Swedish flag] t-shirts or wave the yellow and blue flag as it could be interpreted as racist.” About a country where adults admire and envy youth beyond all reason, and accordingly exhibit greater levels of hedonism and infantilism than their counterparts anywhere else on the planet. And about levels of anti-Semitism that made international headlines yet again just the other day, when Israel’s Eurovision delegation was harassed and threatened on the streets of Malmö.

In such countries, it’s taken for granted that there’s no need to place any limit on state power or to provide mechanisms to protect citizens from that power, because, by definition, as Sjunnesson puts it, “the state always is good.” We may mock the European Union for banning jugs or bowls of olive oil on restaurant tables, but this is what socialism does: the powers that be need to have their fingers in every pie, need to minimize the number of situations under which freedom may actually be experienced, need to accustom citizens to a society in which their lives are increasingly regulated. They need, in short, to create a country in which the land and the system are, in the minds of the general public, one – a country, that is, in which the people simply cannot imagine the nation itself without the socialist state.

No so-called democracy on earth has gone as far in this direction as Sweden. For the Swedish people, Sjunneson says, “the country is the welfare state…Swedes have have no home but the welfare state and no identity outside its yarn” – outside, in other words, its narrative about itself. Winston Smith, Orwell’s narrator in 1984, suggests that the only hope of overthrowing the totalitarian government of his native Oceania lies with “the proles”; Sjunneson, for his part, believes that his fellow Swedes are so brainwashed by welfare-state propaganda that the only way Sweden can save itself at this point is by admitting “one million new immigrants from India, China, Africa and Latin America” who have service skills or technical knowhow, who have no truck with jihadism or multiculturalism, who want to move to Sweden not for a handout but to study hard and work hard, and who will, in time, found more rigorous schools and start more vigorous businesses.
1265Boldwin
      ID: 256156
      Sat, Jun 15, 2013, 07:06
For reasons perhaps only Nerveclinic can explain...



I've seen this done before but never with quite as many.
1266Tree
      ID: 58548159
      Sat, Jun 15, 2013, 10:49
For reasons perhaps only Nerveclinic can explain...

or, common sense

it's a pretty solid combination of things that are statistically not surprising (numerous), dubious at best (John Wilkes Booth being a "southerner" despite being born in Maryland which few people will actually consider the south), completely fictional (Kennedy did not have a secretary named Lincoln; booth was not born in 1839), and so forth.

it's one of the oldest memes around, preceding the term "meme" by decades. but it's still not really that impressive, considering all the inaccuracies and mistruths.
1267Boldwin
      ID: 57519186
      Tue, Jun 18, 2013, 19:07
To paraphrase Sen. Everett Dirkson, 'Ten trillion here, ten trillion there, and pretty soon you're talking about real money.



Your tax dollars hardly working.

Next time you hear calls to audit the Fed...you might add your voice.

Alan Grayson and Boldwin agreeing.
1268sarge33rd
      ID: 390471112
      Thu, May 01, 2014, 00:25
Co develops safe gun that can only be fired by the owner, rightwingers issue death threats to CEO

Belinda Padilla is the president and CEO of the U.S. division of German gun manufacturer, Armatix. Her company began marketing and trying to sell the first “smart gun” in the United States. The weapon, a .22 caliber handgun called the iP1 pistol, uses a radio frequency enabled stopwatch to identify the user. The user enters a five-digit PIN into the stopwatch which then allows the user to fire it. The gun also disables if it is more than ten inches from the watch.

...

Padilla says she started receiving prank phone calls. People would call and leave irate voice mails. She said she no longer answers her phone when unknown numbers call. They also posted pictures of the address where she has a P.O. Box.

One poster wrote:

I have no qualms with the idea of personally and professionally leveling the life of someone who has attempted to profit from disarming me and my fellow Americans.

Personally leveling? That is most definitely a threat. Who exactly she is trying to disarm is not clear. The last time I looked, gun manufacturers were in the business of arming people. All evidence suggests she is actually trying to arm people. The problem is that gun nuts don’t want any safety devices on firearms."


This, is why most of the world thinks that we Americans, are out of our friggin minds.
1269Bean
      ID: 5292191
      Thu, May 01, 2014, 00:57
Get real....nobody wears watches anymore sarge, they clash with the other bling, and the camo hunting gear. Besides, if you have to wear a watch, then how could you conceal that you are packing? Seriously?

The death threats all seem reasonable to me. Nothing premeditated there, its just provoked self defense.
1270Boldwin
      ID: 4041015
      Thu, May 01, 2014, 06:53
I don't know why you are upset, Sarge. Belinda would have looooooooooooooots of time to saunter off as her attacker fiddled with enabling the gun.
1271Boldwin
      ID: 5624318
      Fri, Jul 04, 2014, 16:21
Since 2001 Warren Buffet has donated $1.23 billion dollars to abortion groups. Enuff money to abort every human in Chicago, according to research from Media Research Center.

How you become the darling of the media.
1272Boldwin
      ID: 5624318
      Fri, Jul 04, 2014, 16:26
And a well rewarded crony capitalist I might add. "Yea verily did the tax seas part and a regulatory red carpet unfurled before he, laid out upon dry land."
1273sarge33rd
      ID: 390471112
      Wed, Oct 08, 2014, 13:11
Oregon man, open carrying his brand new handgun...robbed of it at gun point


if only he had a gun...err, wait......
1274Bean
      ID: 5292191
      Wed, Oct 08, 2014, 16:53
I finally understand why some people think concealed weapons are a good thing.
1275sarge33rd
      ID: 599561113
      Sat, Oct 11, 2014, 14:57
open carry Bean, does two things and two things only;

(1) makes many people nervous'
(2) says "shoot me first", to any bad guys in the area.

That, is ALL it does.
1276Tree
      ID: 55815821
      Sun, Oct 12, 2014, 09:56
a third thing that open carry does is make you a target to good guys as well.

if i've got a C&L, and some jabroni walks in with a shot gun around his shoulder, i'm not going to spend a whole lot of time trying to determine if he's just a moron, or he's a moron who wants to hurt me and my family.
1277Perm Dude
      ID: 431013412
      Sun, Oct 12, 2014, 10:23
As far as I can tell, open carry men do so (particularly these days) because they don't trust anyone. Which is ironic, because why should their paranoia make them trustworthy to me?

1278Frick
      ID: 17640169
      Mon, Oct 13, 2014, 10:33
Re: 1277

Because they have passed a strict and rigourous background and training tests?

Oh wait, nevermind.
1279sarge33rd
      ID: 31961317
      Mon, Oct 13, 2014, 18:08
Not sure where else to put this, so I'll put it here.

There is a FB page, whose admin is openly offering a reward for the arrest/execution of "the criminal" Barrack Hussein Obama. The following link, goes to a letter in response, written by a retired Naval Officer.

To that Officer, is want to say "Good on ya sir. Good on ya!"

link
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