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0 Subject: Sim Racing...Week 1131

Posted by: cab
- Donor [14738217] Tue, Aug 21, 23:36

Going to be a quiet week for me this week...Only 5 sharp horses...

I see that the 50k purse in South Carolina(7015) has drawn some interest from Gurupies!!...I have also entered a horse in that race(Raindrop mark)...Would be cool if we can all draw into it!!

I do have a bit of a quandry with one of my horses,Fourth bingo....I have been increasing the dist. whenever i can for him and LTO went 91sp on dirt at 9 furlongs...

I have 3 choices for him this week..
6205 13.5k str.....10f dirt....3YO+(France)
6701 15k str.....9.5f dirt...3YO+(Tazzy)
5813 10k str...11f turf...3YO only(Germany)

I am leaning towards the 11f race in Germany
Here's why:
a)It is for 3yo's only
b)There are only 3 runners(so far) and only one has gone past 10f, with moderate success(best 66sp)
c)His last race was at Germany(chance for extra bp's)
d) the next race i have lined up for him is a str in germany on dirt(at 12f)in wk 1145 or 1152
e)The older competition in the other 2 races will be much harder i think-A quick scan saw various older horses running marathons a lot more that the German race

Why i am sceptical about this race:
a)The jump from 9f to 11f may be too much..Much easier hops(in distance) in the other two options
b)He hasn't gone fantastically well on turf so far,although not real badly either..(I will test him at 10f+ on turf at some stage anyway)

Can anyone sway me from entering him in Germany?..After weighing up the pros and cons i am leaning towards this race..

Good luck with all your entries this week!!


1Madman
      ID: 29246911
      Wed, Aug 22, 00:44
Cab -- I don't think jumping 2f is hard on the horse. The reason I recommend baby steps is that it maximizes the number of successful races relative to the failures. If you increase slowly, you're going to succeed until you fail, whereas if you jump to the top and work down, you'll fail until you succeed.

However, the race you indicated sounds empty, which is usually a good thing. I'm nervous about the turf thing you mentioned. I normally like to make my distance experiments as clean as possible. But without looking up his stats, you gave some good reasons to go to Germany.

Regarding 7015, I entered it so that Well Bert hopefully will NOT win even if he does well. Sounds funny, eh? Well, there's an ASR Team race that he would be great for if he's a turf runner. Alas, the odds are that he's going to make me look like a fool in that race, since his breeding is all dirt. But better to find out now rather than later.

I wonder why that race has so much interest?

Other races for Madman stables this week:

Jericho Velvet: goes off at RTG in restricted 5415. JV was a gaz horse, and will be racing against two other gaz horses. I understand he's not too happy that one of his own horses is coming back to haunt him. :) Unfortunately, since he's only RTG, this is a wide-open race.

Skin Jumping: Returns to 8f. Headed for the low-purse starter in Missouri, with the heavy-duty 3109 as backup. Danged -- there are some very fast horses out there on dirt at 8f or less! YIPES. I want to crawl back under my starter tags and go hide.

Light Jupiter: Staying in Minnesota mainly because it's the same track he was at last time, and there wasn't another great option. I haven't checked the competition lately, and I could do a late scratch here. He's in a track-restricted allowance that could be a cake-walk or could be tough. . .

Secret Society Somehow, I've had difficulty getting my first-ever homebred races. This is just his 3rd race, and first route attempt. Lots of endurance in his breeding, so he should make it, and I think he'll break his maiden.

Straight Time 2207 and 2002. NW2x sprints. Let's see what she's got!

All told, I have 10 horses going, lots of experiments, no favorites. I'll be happy to get 5 top 3 finishes out of the 10. Heck -- I might be LUCKY to do that.
2Toral
      Sustainer
      ID: 447461620
      Wed, Aug 22, 09:16
Busy week here. 6 Sharp horses in Larot alone. Some of my more interesting placements:

Secret Penguin is in a throwaway race this week. He is priming for a NW2L claimer in Denmark in 1145. But he's sharp this week, and no attractive races are available, so I might as well run him in Denmark so he will be running back at the same track in 1145. He will be outclassed this week in 6509; but he's a speed horse so I will just send him to the lead at .90. It's a workout really.

I have never run in a stake. I considered Dan's Forest for a $50K stake in Hong Kong -- really not much more than an allowance -- but too many good horses are showing up. Ah well -- she looks very competitive in 5209. She will be quite a story if she continues to improve. I made her available at her CPU value $60K reserve at auction a while ago. No takers, so I decided to improve her form so I could get rid of her. Her CPU is up to $600K now; I think I'll keep her.

Hope for 2-year old Alsterimist in 2109? 9f is a lot, but she's bred for classic distances all across (or so I intended.)

Solar Coon is another sacrificial lamb this week. Toral6, my newest stable, is pinching pennies to be able to make the best claims before hitting 20 races. The next race I like for him is in 1145, but travel would be over $300; so he's stopping in AK 0609 this week for a $50K claimer. 2 trips under $300 to get where I want him.

More later. Good luck with your placements.

Toral
3JKaye
      Sustainer
      ID: 4711592917
      Wed, Aug 22, 11:10
9 horses for me.

Light Award came back sharp and tries to increase his distance to 8f on turf.

Sixth Deputy came back sharp as well after running in the same race as LA last week. Turf didn't work, so it's back to increasing his distance on dirt. 0301 looks perfect to me, with a big purse at 9f. With Sunday Silence for a father I would be shocked if he can't go 9f.

I, too, am entering to 50K maiden race with Out With Colony. I wanted to test him on turf anyway, so this race is perfect--if I get in.

Those are the features. Good luck to everyone on getting into races and getting the jockeys.
4Madman
      ID: 29246911
      Wed, Aug 22, 18:46
Races are up. As predicted, I have no favorites, and few locks to place. . .

The favorite in 2207 looks like a sure-fire collapse. A possible betting op? Hard to say.
5StLCards
      Sustainer
      ID: 3505622
      Wed, Aug 22, 20:17
Hot Republic in 1508 goes out at 15/1 despite a nice win LTO on turf. The sim has several other horses way above him. I think I may bet on this one, with those odds what the heck?

Dusty Colony in 2802 is a 7/5 favorite MSW

Country Jodie is second favorite at 4/1 in 7112 1mile turf NW2L alw.


That's my highlights for the week. I screwed one entry up trying to enter a horse with a win in a MSW, D'oh!
6cab
      Donor
      ID: 14738217
      Wed, Aug 22, 22:26
Four gurupies in that maiden race(7015)...Should be interesting!..Raindrop mark at 5/1 in this race

I entered Fourth bingo in the 11f turf race(5813)...He is favourite at 7/5...Only five entries so i could walk him and pick up some cash and bp's...would defeat the purpose though...Probably some good betting opportunities with other runners in that race..

My other 3 runners are all at very long odds..Obviously misplaced...

Voyage grimacing(0604)(60/1!)is in a str all over 8.5f...More of a test to see wether he can go further..
Two dancer is in a msw and having his first start at a mile on the dirt..(this is a claim i am going to regret i think)

Mooralay variety is up against a Toral runner in a 2yo msw(2804)at odds of 27/1
7Madman
      ID: 29246911
      Thu, Aug 23, 00:47
Guys, my claim program didn't work as well as I expected. There was a formatting change that I can't quite figure out why it's causing a problem.

Plus, the SRF has some bad links, causing the code to freak out.

I'll post it whenever I update the program to get around these problems. Sorry.
8StLCards
      Sustainer
      ID: 2504849
      Thu, Aug 23, 10:13
Should I interpret that to mean you found a great claim possibility and are trying to reduce the competition? LOL, just kidding Madman ;-) I appreciate all the hard work and effort you have put into developing the tools and then for Sharing them with us!! I think I will give the Tracker 2000 program another try. Where do I download the latest version from? Hopefully one of us can win that big purse in 7015. I don't think I have much of a chance, but I needed a test on turf at that distance anyway. Who knows. It looks like high 70's wins this race?

9Toral
      Sustainer
      ID: 447461620
      Thu, Aug 23, 22:58
A look at this week's sixteen --count'em, 16 --entries from the Toral multicomplex, roughly in ascending order of hopefulness as measured by the odds. Keeping in mind Madman's recent work, I'll pay particular attention to recent claimers and what I got them for -- comments welcome. I'll do them in 2 groups of 8.

Soldier County #52650 is outclassed at 53-1 in Northern California 2914, a AlwNW1t. But
that's OK, because he's just stopping off at Bay Meadows to set up a week 1145 bid. This is Soldier's first
race for toral6; I picked him up for $30K in his first run for a tag last time out. Why I got him --
he ran for a 99 at a mile as recently as week 1005; he has only 2 wins; I am not satisfied that one
turf try is enough for a son of Wild Again, whose sons do about equally well on turf as on the dirt,
particularly with Diesis as DDS; I'm not satisfied one sprint is enough for this horse, although I
acknowledge he looks like a miler. Recently form has deteriorated, but I've turned them around
before.

Judge Gilded #57243 runs his last race for Toral at 35-1 . I found him, a cheap auction pickup,
useful to have around while Mexico and New Mexico were regularly carding $2K NW2L claimers.
They appear not to be carding these races for the next few weeks, so the Judge goes on the auction
block with no reserve next week, win or lose.

Secret Penguin #31669 is outclassed in Denmark as mentioned above, 23-1. What puzzles me is why top Danish jock Schardein took the mount. Maybe he wants a kind of break in the middle of the racing day.
Why I acquired this horse: he has only one win, but had been regularly ITM on dirt, and I wanted to
put him back in sprints a bit.. He's been 4th and 3rd for me in 2 outings. His destiny is to be lost in a
$10-20K claimer after I improve his form a bit. Once I hit 20 races I expect to cycle these horses in and
out on a regular basis.

Alsterimist (#46917) is 22-1 in a 9f dirt MSW in Michigan 2109. I don't have a feel for 2-year old
racing yet. She's a 49-point homebred, and 2 60s so far leaves me satisfied, I guess.

Counting For Way (#0307) is a 19-1 shot in a $25K starter in Kentucky 0307 at 6 furlongs. This
4-year old was running mid-70s when I picked him up for $10K., but a few sips from my magic potion enabled him to run two 90+s. A previous owner had been jacking this horse around in routes. He's
a sprinter. Somebody picked him up for $13.5K and put him into a sprint (good) at a $10K tag (bad --
I picked him up.) This starter event may be too ambitious for the horse, but I've lost a few of my
successful $10K-type pickups recently -- Colonel Knob, Away Without Way -- and I didn't feel like
losing another right now. Probably goes back into claimers next -- Toral stable really needs upgrading,
and is my only stable with mucho cash. It really has a wretched look to it at the moment -- its top
lifetime money winner is a maiden!

Hank's Rattles (#54673) goes off for toral2 at 17-1 in the same event. Maybe not such a
smart pickup in retrospect. Except for one 95, runs low 80s recently in sprints. Getting that 3rd win
last time out, when I claimed him for $15K, makes this horse less useful.

Bead Pick (#20551) is now unblocked for toral2 and goes down under to 5407. I picked this one to
be a turf router, Diesis x Ruthie's Native. No messing around -- he's going right into 10f. 14-1.

Almost forgot Idea Sal, (#19069)
a dawg the computer stuck toral6 with, only making his first start
now mostly because I couldn't be bothered before. I figure this one to be a router but I'm not sure
on what surface. I sent him to Asia to start his career because life is cheap there. Sorry, I mean
because purses are cheap -- I figured an $8.1 MSW is about his range.

Arctic Skunk is still another of the turf routers I drafted for toral6. He goes in a $10.4K
MSW in 3607. 49 to 67 improvement in first two suggests to me that this horse is ready to win
soon.

To be continued....

Toral
10Madman
      ID: 29246911
      Thu, Aug 23, 23:49
I've updated the claim program. No guarantees. Instructions located here.

Toral -- Idea Sal -- smart move on your part. East Asia has lots of cheap MSW and MC races in the vicinity. That's what I did with Drunken Badger and Buda U. That pedigree *might* be OK. I'm a bit worried it may lend itself toward dirt, however, in which case the Asia strategy won't work nearly so well. Although you can probably stay in Malaysia . . .
11Madman
      ID: 29246911
      Fri, Aug 24, 02:45
Dang it. There's a problem with the claim file I posted. AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH.

I don't recommend downloading it yet. One of these days. . .

A big problem is that I'm running only 128 megs of ram. In Excel 2000, that's a bare minimum. So my whole system bogs down dramatically.

I just recoded parts of it so I can run it in Excel 97 (which takes about 16 megs fewer of ram, I think, at LEAST). But it's still taking FOREVER for some reason. Part of the problem is that the file gets so huge . . . aargh.

At any rate, I'll post when I get it running right. And I'll post a new trainer 2000 for you guys, too. The old one is ok, but the new one integrates nicely with Indy's racefinder, plus there are some small bugs with the old one, depending on what system you use.
12Madman
      ID: 29246911
      Sat, Aug 25, 13:16
Horrible week for me here. 10 races, 4 top 3's, only 1 win. YEEEOUCH. But I kind of expected lousy finishes. The thing that hurts is the awful speed ratings. . .

Well Bert's 58.3 means he can't run on turf? Or is in just awful form? West on the Fan -- 46.5 in the lowest of Maiden Claimers. Skin Jumping 80.7 at 8f. YEEEOUCH. Was he a one race wonder? Straight Time 81.2 at 6.5f. Ugh. Are all these horses just off form? Majestic Yodel 70.7 in the slop where she used to have success???? AAARGH.

Good news? Jericho Velvet was pulled to a 98.9 despite the fact that he was only RTG. Talking a quality turf sprinter here, I think. Babified Opossum came back from his lousy performance last week to net a 2nd place in an A3L race -- 94.8. Not spectacular, but ITM. Light Jupiter just got plain out-classed in his track allowance race -- as I feared since there were tons of great horses in Minnesota the last few weeks. Oh well, I had to try. He still pulled out a 95.4. THis guy is Mr. Consistency. I appreciate that a lot after what some of my other horses have done. And since this was a same-track, I get a couple of breed points for showing up and trying this way.

The best news? Secret Society my first ever homebred showed a tremendous kick in his first route race to literally blow away the field. He finished in a 80.7 to beat an otherwise fairly weak field. It feels extremely good to BREED a winner like this. Especially for 28 points :). Scary. This 2yo just ran the exact same speed rating as Skin Jumping this week -- at exactly the same distance!!

Congrats to Rainbow Mark! A nice little 82.7 in his first turf sprint. Boosts his Gurupie winnings to $39,075! Good job.
13Toral
      Sustainer
      ID: 447461620
      Sat, Aug 25, 13:34
Big congrats to cab and Rainbow Mark. Don't let that cash burn a hole in your pocket! Also to madman and Secret Society. It must feel great to breed a winner. I get the feeling it may take a long time for me to experience it! City O'Gold failed again and will look to a turf try.

OK week for me. Dan's Forest won her allowance in convincing fashion. I'll have to check the figs and see if I should have raced her in that Hong Kong stakes after all. Chief Northern seems to be the kind of horse who likes to finish second. I think that's OK; I think he's still valuable as such.

And a landmark. Mine Devastation, the highest CPU rated 3-year old in my first stable, finally broke his maiden in 1103. He's been OK ITM but I have to recognize that he's no star. Now we'll see whether he can do anything as a winner of one. I always thought Mine would win before the highest CPU 3-year old in my second stable, Swiftly Spurn, who bombed today as the 5-2 favourite in 7613.

Toral
14Madman
      ID: 29246911
      Sat, Aug 25, 14:46
Toral -- sorry to see that City O'Gold isn't developing like you'd hoped. A turf try is a good thing. He has some quality lineage, so you never know when he'll take off.

I had missed/forgotten about Chief Northern's 99 speed over 9f in 1110. WHOA. Solid horse. I definitely wouldn't gripe. And I'd spend as much time in starters with him as possible. You can get allowance wins at a later date.

Mine Devastation's win was interesting, since I would have looked at the record and seen a bad 8f race before, and predicted that he wouldn't have a lot of success this time out at that distance. Interesting. He's either improved in the last 100 days, or you were tampering with something, or he had very bad luck before.

Swiftly Spurn was the victim of a solid performance by Hawaiian Debee who was running Sharp for the first time. But, yes, he also did bomb. You need better from 3yo's at this time of year. Secret Society clocked a speed factor 9 points faster at the same distance . . . that's just not a good sign for a 3yo at this stage of the game. Just be glad it didn't happen to a prized 4 yo claimer (like it did with my Skin Jumping who was basically beaten by Secret Society, as well! AARGH. That's pathetic.).

BTW, I lost two useless nags in claimers this week, and picked up two useless nags in return. OUCH!! And here I was claiming to be a claim expert. Geez. I picked up Chocolate Dump, primarily because of that breeding (380 points worth from sire and dam-sire). I hope I can squeeze a few adequate races out of him in the sprints, and then probably breed him away in early 2002. Hopefully Nureyev is still at 122 then, and I'll then have a relatively cheap 247 point homebred who should be awesome up through 9f.

The other guy, Murf's Swills(ire), is just a 3 year old with a low 4K tag. And only 2 wins. And he needs to be tried on dirt routes, and his ceiling at under 9f on turf isn't known (two wins, no losses). Plus, that 10f isn't so slow as to indicate a "proven failure". In other words, I have a lot to play with here. But, I also have to acknowledge that Secret Society as a 2 yo just ran as fast as this horse ever has, as well. Talk about depressing!

Hmmm. Maybe instead of criticizing all these horses for not being faster than Secret Society, maybe this means that Secret Society is an exceptional 2 yo? Hmmmm. I dunno. I'm not willing to make that statement yet. Lots of 2 year olds running 80+ right now. This 2 year old homebred class is going to make some serious waves in the sim, I think. I think you should either work it hard and get on top of it, or basically ignore it and save up for the later classes. . . Of course, I'm doing neither -- I have four 2yo's, none of which are royally bred. Although I'm going to change that next week, hopefully, with rotciv stables where I'm going to try to acquire another $6 horse and then breed a Nureyev progeny. I have 280 points, time to use them! That stable has TONS of extra stall space suddenly. Amazingly, that stable had 11 horses a few weeks ago. Now, with injuries and such, it's basically down to 3 runners and 5 horses, IIRC.
15cab
      Donor
      ID: 14738217
      Sat, Aug 25, 15:36
Thanks guys...Was certainly a bonus to get the win from Rainbow mark...After the review from Bettwice(suggested i go back to a sprint on each surface to get a gauge on surface preference) it was a test really but i'll take it..I guess i will end up fritting the winnings away at the bookmakers, Toral..lol(Although i did okay this week in the betting dept.)....
Bingo ended up running second in his race..SP of 64.5 on a good track...Not a fantastic sp but he was finishing on well(or was the winner tiring badly?)...It gives me another backup plan..I hope that he will make a half-decent marathon horse,and in theory he should go faster on the dirt...

I can sympathise with you on the homebred 2yo's ,Toral..Mooralay variety bombed again(50sp)..A ready made plodder it seems!...Although as testified by Madman's great success,it can be done!

Voyage grimacing(33sp) and Two dancer(64) also bombed in a big way...

On the claiming front, I picked up Mine bunker for 2k...(I may regret this one) and Sweltering order..Do you think i can do a "Skin jumping" with this horse Madman?(LOL)...If she fails on the dirt she looks fairly usefull as a 10k+ claiming runner anyhow..

16Madman
      ID: 29246911
      Sat, Aug 25, 16:54
cab -- hahaha. Wow. Another Far North progeny, eh? Well, he throws dirt sprinters, so the odds are with you. I did a SSS search for Super Sunrise as DS, and didn't find much. Davarto really needs to update the sire database!! What little there is indicates a dirt preference, as well. You may have found yourself a runner there, cab.

But if it doesn't work in 2 races, go straight back to any level of claimer and get points.
17StLCards
      Sustainer
      ID: 3505622
      Sat, Aug 25, 17:32
All my horses were bad this week. Could only manage two 3d place finishes and those were in 5 horse races. ugh!

Hot Republic ran out of track. Once again ran in dead last place until about 3/4 way through the race and then kicked into high gear. Was really gaining the whole last part and moved up on the leaders but came in 6th with a 78. Will have to go at least 9f it looks like.

Claimed a 2yo with Sunday Silence as a Dam-Dam-Sire who of course won its maiden claimer, but with only a 59SP. I haven't had much luck claiming a 2 yo cheapie.

I'm considering breeding a horse at this point. I'm close to 100BP in one stable and will probably breed in a few weeks if I have the time to do proper research.

I tried Country Jodie on turf this week which she didn't like at all. Ran 33sp slower at 8f than she did at 8f on dirt.

AllyFarms had one runner this week, 3yo Slewpy Bug, that ran a 2nd place with an 82 in a MSW. Shut out on claimers this week for her.

Question - I downloaded the raceout file from surf the turf this week and the races are showing up as week 131 instead of 1131. Similar thing happened before. Am I supposed to edit the file somehow before importing?
18Madman
      ID: 29246911
      Sat, Aug 25, 18:39
StlCards -- yeah. Open the file in Word. Change the FIRST RACE number from 131.0101 to 1131.0101.

Mike is mislabelling the week numbers because he has a programming code problem in his off-line viewer. And that is the utility that the raceouts are made available for.

StLCards -- yeah. Research on Breeding takes FOREVER. Honestly, I recommend one of two things -- either go for a discount homebred, in which case you spend 50 or fewer breeding points. If you do this, I recommend finding seldom used sires who have excellent sires themselves. Check out Snow Storm and Stark Secret for virtually perfect examples of this.

The second option is to go for a Royal breed. There are two ways to do this. First, you could aquire a horse like Chocolate Dump (OK race history, great sire and dam-sire) and wait until they turn 5 years old (or acquire them as 5 years old, but those are harder to get for obvious reasons). And then use those lines for your homebred. This option takes either 50 or 125 plus the number of points for your sire . . . probably somewhere (total) in the region of 150 to 300 breed points. OR, you could breed a Royal horse from scratch, in which case you'll want to focus on those real-life stud sires that happen to be priced at between 80 and 200 breed points each. This option requres at least 250 to 300 points to pull off. I don't recommend breeding a 700 point homebred from scratch. Just not worth the risk. If you want to do that, then buy a horse with that pedigree to cut your costs. . .

I'm planning on breeding my first "Royal" breeding horse in a couple of weeks. I'll probably use Nureyev as either Sire or Dam-Sire. And this will be in combination with horses like Sunday Silence, Halo, Hail to Reason, etc. Quality horses who are just reasonably priced at the moment.
19Madman
      ID: 29246911
      Sat, Aug 25, 18:48
I forgot to mention Sutter's Creek. He just squeeked by as a discount breed. He got hurt in his first race -- he might suck, but he could be Group stakes calibre. No information yet. But I snuck in 49er (and thus Mr P), Naskra (second tier sire, IMO, not great stud), Nijinsky II (and thus Northern Dancer), Habitat, Nureyev directly as DDS (and thus more Northern Dancer for the maximum in-breeding, I think, that is recommended IRL).

Focus on the quality in the sires of sires in discount breeding I think. And stay away from the discount breeds that have bad track records. The discount breeds that have great track records experience a spike in price (note the price of Christmas Storm, for example). That's why I recommend finding the seldom used very cheap sires with great sires themselves.
20Madman
      ID: 29246911
      Sun, Aug 26, 16:22

Stable Races W P S W% P% S% ITM% $$$ $$$/R Pts Pts/R
cab 111 11 12 9 9.9% 10.8% 8.1% 28.8% $225,567 $2,032 328 2.95
goatlocker 27 1 1 3 3.7% 3.7% 11.1% 18.5% $20,465 $758 44 1.63
gurupie 19 3 1 1 15.8% 5.3% 5.3% 26.3% $38,678 $2,036 46 2.42
jkaye 119 13 14 8 10.9% 11.8% 6.7% 29.4% $202,598 $1,703 404 3.39
madman 211 33 36 19 15.6% 17.1% 9.0% 41.7% $579,668 $2,747 908 4.30
stlcards 80 7 2 4 8.8% 2.5% 5.0% 16.3% $59,813 $748 158 1.98
toral 155 18 21 16 11.6% 13.5% 10.3% 35.5% $256,299 $1,654 618 3.99
Totals 722 86 87 60 11.9% 12.0% 8.3% 32.3% $1,383,088 $1,916 2506 3.47
21Madman
      ID: 29246911
      Sun, Aug 26, 16:27

Stable Races W P S Earn P ITM% E/R P/R ITMR E/R R P/R R Power
madman4 43 9 9 6 $167,598 211 55.8% 3898 4.9 1 1 2 4
toral2 26 6 3 2 $71,009 144 42.3% 2731 5.5 3 5 1 9
devil01 11 3 1 1 $37,473 42 45.5% 3407 3.8 2 2 8 12
rotciv 63 10 11 5 $124,893 302 41.3% 1982 4.8 4 9 3 16
madman3 49 8 6 4 $149,806 179 36.7% 3057 3.7 5 4 10 19
madman999 56 6 10 4 $137,371 216 35.7% 2453 3.9 7 6 7 20
cab31 33 3 6 3 $70,225 128 36.4% 2128 3.9 6 8 6 20
jkaye1 40 5 7 2 $45,606 158 35.0% 1140 4.0 9 14 4 27
larot 62 6 10 6 $99,868 229 35.5% 1611 3.7 8 10 9 27
cab 40 7 3 3 $127,877 122 32.5% 3197 3.1 12 3 13 28
toral 58 5 8 7 $77,110 226 34.5% 1329 3.9 10 13 5 28
jkaye 49 7 3 4 $108,812 150 28.6% 2221 3.1 13 7 12 32
sunday89 30 1 4 2 $48,180 96 23.3% 1606 3.2 14 11 11 36
goatlockr2 9 0 1 2 $12,368 18 33.3% 1374 2.0 11 12 18 41
stlcards 37 4 1 2 $38,571 79 18.9% 1042 2.1 17 15 15 47
stlcards1 23 2 1 2 $16,762 50 21.7% 729 2.2 16 17 14 47
toral6 9 1 0 1 $8,312 19 22.2% 924 2.1 15 16 16 47
pepe31 38 1 3 3 $27,465 78 18.4% 723 2.1 18 18 17 53
goatlocker 18 1 0 1 $8,097 26 11.1% 450 1.4 19 19 20 58
stlcards3 20 1 0 0 $4,480 29 5.0% 224 1.5 20 20 19 59
gurupie 8 0 0 0 $1,205 4 0.0% 151 0.5 21 21 21 63


FYI -- for person time-constraint reasons, these stats won't be updated next weekend, in all likelihood.
22Madman
      ID: 29246911
      Sun, Aug 26, 16:30
FWIW, I think it's time to put Sixth Deputy almost exclusively in dirt sprints and races up to 8 (or maybe 8.5f). Let's see what that bad boy can do against triple-digit runners!
23StLCards
      Sustainer
      ID: 3505622
      Sun, Aug 26, 21:05
Thanks for the great breeding input Madman. I am debating between the 50% discount breed or trying to acquire a 5yo mare with a great sire and dam-sire and then combine with a cheaper sire. If I did the second option, if I found a sire to breed for under 50BP would that still qualify for a 50% discount? 50 for my own mare and less than 50 for the sire would come under the 100 point margin.

For my first horse I'l probably breed a 2yo from some cheaper breeding horses and get the 50% discount. I hadn't thought about focusing on horses that had done well in the sim. That makes good horse sense to me. I was just going to focus on the lines only and hope the second and third tier breeding lines of the cheapies would come into play.

Sutter's Creek sounds like a good horse. It sucks when they get hurt right away. This week Hot Republic came back "a little groggy" after racing her on only 2 weeks rest (3yo). It seems she needs a full 3 weeks between races to recover.

Sally Plow, a 5yo mare, Majestic Light, Caerleon, Blade is unblocked this week. I have high hopes for her as a turf runner. I don't think I'll send her to Europe though. Like to stay in the states or at least close by. Any opinions? I sent one horse to Europe hoping it would like turf and it didn't (of course it doesn't like any surface). If she proves successful I might use her to breed later on.

I agree about Sixth Deputy. Let's see how he stacks up. I've got about 6-8 horses ready to run this week, but unfortunately I don't have a sixth deputy, etc. so every race is a huge question mark for me. Think I'll stick some more horses back into claimers again. It's much easier to pull out a win there.
24Madman
      ID: 29246911
      Sun, Aug 26, 22:53
Stl -- No. The only way to get a discounter is if you breed from scratch. Good idea, but no dice. Sorry.

I wouldn't read too much into Hot Republic's Little Groggy. I think a lot of this is kind of random. In general, I put 3yo's on 3 week training cycles, and then race early if they are sharp. I don't worry about "this horse is better on 3 weeks rest or two weeks rest or whatever".

Sally Plow -- That's nice breeding. Hard to say how far she'll go. And could be good on either surface, actually. I'd stay on the East coast -- at least that way if you do eventually have to do the puddle jump then it's a few thousand dollars cheaper.
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