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Posted by: Purple Pimp - [406561323] Tue, Oct 03, 02:07
Everyone get ready for season 5 its FA time.
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85TBRaiders
      ID: 26738619
      Fri, Oct 13, 13:32 		The book could have been closed had we waited a couple more weeks to trade back too ;)

Rangel is now starting for me, but we was my middle relief the first 3 weeks. He went 6-0 as a middle reliever. I not only agree that the bullpen is important but would rather have a solid bullpen and a couple shaky starters versus 4 solid starters and a crappy bullpen.

Of course, that may be my current situation. Two shaky starters and a half decent bullpen. My pen might get rocked the next couple weeks while I move pitchers around and see who pitches best where.

Nice prospect list Timing. I could tell you were in the rebuilding stage with the 6 minor league hitters on your major league team. Have they been increasing in stats?

On to the draft.

I rated 80 players just so I could get at least 5.
70 players really and that was stretching it, but everyone's first two picks should pan out. Usually an abundance of RP but not this year. I had none rated higher than about 65th.

I tossed another 20-30 maybe maybe maybe prospects into grouping 5. That's better than having comp pick for me and keeps them off the Mets. ;)

TB
86Brock
      ID: 42542238
      Fri, Oct 13, 14:38 		Timing - Combs has basically came in when my team was getting blown out. If your middle relievers are getting a ton of innings, that means your starters must not be up to par. Bo and Bluma, the #1 pitcher in the game and a very good starter, almost always go 8 and 7 respectively. My 2 closers, Rodriguez and Ramano, are very good. Rodriguez is second in career saves and Ramano is 5th. They USUALLY come in and close out the game. Rodriguez always seems to get off to slow starts but then he always seems to come around in the end. It's my 3 and 4 starters that have problems now. I had to trade Callier because he wouldn't resign. Sometimes the bullpen is good, sometimes it's bad. Look at Whitey this year. I think the bullpen is the most unreliable and random postion in the game.
87Whitey
      ID: 6437514
      Fri, Oct 13, 15:08 		yeah, tell me about it....i'm about fire 'em all ;)
88Wammie
      ID: 437541618
      Fri, Oct 13, 15:46 		I think you can get by with out a great bull pen. I see both sides of your story. If you have a good starter with high stamina, then all you need is a good closer, but if your starters don't have high stamina, or you are going to get into a slug fest, you would want to have a good bull pen. that is obvious. What I think brock is saying that when you have good starting pitching, your bull pen will only have to pitch one or two innings at the max, and you don't need to waste a lot of money on lots of bull pen pitchers for 1 or 2 innings a game.

I do have a few high priced bullpen pitchers, my closer goldsmith, whitey was the first to score on him this season, and clontz a damn good all purpose bull pen pitcher form me. But as we all know, I don't have any starting pitching, so I need a bull pen to help stop the bleeding.
89Timing
      ID: 68132910
      Sat, Oct 14x, 12:16 		TB-

The minor leaguers on my major league team are just filler! lol In fact my AAA team is probably better than my major league team. I think I'll be bringing them all up next season and we'll see what happens.

On the draft, I have 2 words. Kenny Lofton
90Whitey
      ID: 6437514
      Sat, Oct 14x, 14:14 		Question for anyone who can answer this. What type of ratings does it take to be a successful pitcher with the new simulator? Obviously my pitchers Martinez, Seaman, Gonzalez and Austin are mising something, but I can't figure it out. If a pitcher has below 400 in faatball does that mean he is gonna suck?? Pedro has about 500 in breaking and change and 440 in control, but only 350 fastball. Should he not have success?? Is anyone else experiencing this where supposed quality starters are routinely getting shelled?
91TBRaiders
      ID: 26738619
      Sat, Oct 14x, 15:48 		It's like they tweek the SIM every night. We have been playing this for 5 seasons now. Have we every really had any pitcher consistency?

Try moving them around in the order. It might sound crazy but some pitchers pitch better in a certain spot.
92Wammie
      ID: 437541618
      Sun, Oct 15, 15:27 		I don't know what it takes for good pitching. I guess that is something that we will have to feel out for a few more seasons. Kind of like how we had to feel out the first four seasons when we started. It is almost like we have started over.
93Whitey
      ID: 2543539
      Mon, Oct 16, 10:32 		Alright, somebody's playing a cruel joke on me. I get the point, you can stop it now... ;)

J - You must have gotten a chuckle out of the way some of those games ended. My team would come back to tie or lead just to have my "star" relievers blow the game in a big way. I'm actually finding this funny, is that a sign of insanity??

P.S. anybody want to trade for a stud closer with a 10.50 ERA who blows every other save opportunity he gets? No? Why not?

The white flag has been raised....
94Brock
      ID: 42542238
      Mon, Oct 16, 10:53 		That's a hell of a trade you made Whitey. The Indians owner must be an idiot to give you his #1 starter for 2 nobodies. I wish I could find an dumb enough owner to make a trade like that.
95Whitey
      ID: 2543539
      Mon, Oct 16, 11:01 		Brock - 2 nobodies?? I have a feeling that White may turn out to be a good ML outfielder and Maeda a good closer. You do realize that the 2 players I gave him are only ~20 years old and not yet ready for the Majors right? Don't worry, Gardner will suck for my team anyway
96Brock
      ID: 42542238
      Mon, Oct 16, 13:44 		Whitey - I guess I looked at the wrong ratings on White. For some reason I thought he was only 6 stars which would be terrible considering his mid 200 ratings. I was actually looking at his pitching stars instead of his hitting stars, 11. He's still probably not going to be anything special. He's 24 already. Maeda will be no better than average. I'm impressed with your GM skills. You still ripped the guy off though. Good job.
97Whitey
      ID: 2543539
      Mon, Oct 16, 14:26 		Since it sounds like there was a compliment in there somewhere, I guess I should say thanks! ;)
I honestly don't think I "ripped off" this guy though. There is still a lot of room for improvement for White if you look at his defensive rating (has anyone figured out the correlation between maximum growth achieved and the fielding rating?). I also don't know what would make you say that Maeda won't turn out to be anything. Although, if he turns out to be as good as Caraciolli I am glad I got rid of him..

By the way, Brock, did you become a born-again Christian or something? I don't really sense the hostility in your posts anymore..
98Brock
      ID: 42542238
      Mon, Oct 16, 15:41 		I'm as far away from a born-again Christian as they come. I know the truth.

Let's just say that you got a damn good young starter for a good prospect and an average prospect. Maybe I'm just jealous that I wasn't able to pull off a trade like that, yet. I'm sure the hostility will eventually come back. If not, this league will be real boring in the future.
99Wammie
      ID: 437541618
      Mon, Oct 16, 23:37 		I am sure Brock will be bitter now for a while after the baseball game tonight!
100Wammie
      ID: 437541618
      Mon, Oct 16, 23:44 		By the way, the Whitey trade with the Indians is the worst trade since well probably Ernie Broglio for Lou Brock! Damn nice trade for Whitey!
101Whitey
      ID: 2543539
      Tue, Oct 17, 08:55 		Hey, did they change the sim again last night??? I'm just asking because I swept the Dodgers and outscored them 41-10 with like 10 HRs. Normally, I wouldn't be so shocked by this but the way my team has been playing this season it's a bit surprising...I went from like 9th in the league to 2nd in runs scored in one night...
102Whitey
      ID: 2543539
      Tue, Oct 17, 14:44 		It looks like the Red Sox, Mariners and Braves didn't rate the prospects (I could be wrong though). At least I am sure that the Red Sox didn't rank them unless they wanted to draft Scott Erickson with the #3 pick (doh!)
104J
      ID: 50726110
      Tue, Oct 17, 14:57 		Lets try something here....(you need to be logged in for this to work)

Gurupie? W - L Pct GB Last10 Streak Draft Pick
Mets J (26) 21 - 15 .583 -- 5-5 L2 13
Braves Purple Pimp 18 - 18 .500 3 7-3 W3 8
Cubs ??? 17 - 19 .472 4 5-5 W2 6 t
Cardinals Whitey 17 - 19 .472 4 6-4 W5 6 t

Gurupie? W - L Pct GB Last10 Streak Draft Pick
Giants Alex (24) 24 - 12 .667 -- 6-4 L3 14
Padres Brock 19 - 17 .528 5 5-5 W2 9 t
Dodgers ??? 15 - 21 .417 9 3-7 L7 5
Astros Wammie 13 - 23 .361 11 3-7 L2 3 t

Gurupie? W - L Pct GB Last10 Streak Draft Pick
Orioles TBRaiders (24) 25 - 11 .694 -- 9-1 W1 15 t
Yankees ??? 20 - 16 .556 5 3-7 W1 11 t
RedSox ??? 13 - 23 .361 12 7-3 L1 3 t
Indians ??? 11 - 25 .306 14 2-8 L2 1 t

Gurupie? W - L Pct GB Last10 Streak Draft Pick
Royals Logos (24) 25 - 11 .694 -- 7-3 W1 15 t
WhiteSox ??? 20 - 16 .556 5 5-5 W2 11 t
Mariners ??? 19 - 17 .528 6 3-7 L1 9 t
Rangers Timing 11 - 25 .306 14 4-6 L1 1 t

Magic Number in parenthesis
105Wammie
      ID: 437541618
      Tue, Oct 17, 17:03 		I couldn't get into the teams, could anyone else?
106J
      ID: 50726110
      Tue, Oct 17, 17:08 		make sure you're logged into P2 before you click it.
107Brock
      ID: 106282323
      Tue, Oct 17, 21:39 		It worked for me.
108Whitey
      ID: 2543539
      Wed, Oct 18, 08:13 		Did everyone notice what the NL did to the AL in last night's games?? Cards take 3 of 4 from the White Sox, Mets take 3 of 4 from the Royals!!! Cubs sweep, Braves take 3 of 4 and it goes on...

Big games tonight in the NL East with 4 games separating all 4 teams
109 Wammie
      ID: 46891018
      Wed, Oct 18, 14:41 		I think it just goes to show that the NL is better. I am the worst team in the NL and still took 3 or 4 from the Indians. It could mean I was just lucky though.
110Purple Pimp
      ID: 406561323
      Wed, Oct 18, 16:29 		My teams finally starting to play like it should. But im sure it just a phase =0
111Wammie
      ID: 437541618
      Wed, Oct 18, 22:21 		I was just wondering, was everyone happy with their draft? I didn't rank as many people as I usually do, and I who i did rank, i did it a little differently than in seasons past, i was still pleased with my draft though.
112Purple Pimp
      ID: 406561323
      Thu, Oct 19, 00:32 		Man i hate this damn game I finally start making a run for the playoffs and as soon as a big series comes up i get swept by the damn cardinals. I dont know whats wrong with my pitchin Brian Carmondy is 420+ ihn every categorie and his ear is over 5.00
113J
      ID: 50726110
      Thu, Oct 19, 09:34 		I hate this game too!!!!

I should've taken 3 of 4 from the Cubs but my closer is in a funk!

Game 1 - 4-3 lead going into the ninth, I lose 5-4
Game 3 - 2-0 lead going into the ninth, he gives up a run, but I hold on for a 2-1 win
Game 4 - 7-6 lead going into the ninth, I lose 8-7

Rajotte (who wont resign with me and is officially up for trade) stats for this series:

3 IP
6 hits
5 ER
1 BB
2 K
2 Losses
1 Save
114Whitey
      ID: 2543539
      Thu, Oct 19, 09:45 		J and PP - You guys are going through now what I was going through at the beginning of the season. I was about ready to give up. Still, the last 2 weeks of the season should be very interesting with all of us going head-to-head...
115Wammie
      ID: 437541618
      Thu, Oct 19, 14:27 		J that is a hell of a sales pitch for Rajotte, but i don't think I want him.
116J
      ID: 50726110
      Thu, Oct 19, 14:33 		I was trying reverse psychology ;)


No biters yet though ;)
117Whitey
      ID: 2543539
      Thu, Oct 19, 14:50 		While we are on the subject, here are 3 closers in P2:

FB BB CH CO
---------------------
#1 492 473 299 496
#2 488 285 432 267
#3 460 320 361 405

Now, which one of these 3 guys is 0-3 with a 7.80 ERA? Maybe #2, possibly #3?? Nope, the first guy is my closer Caraciolli who has outrageous ratings and has pitched like a dog. Just to finish up my point, here are the stats for closer #2 and #3 respectively..

2-1 3.60 ERA, 12 saves
1-1 1.69 ERA, 12 saves

I guess sometimes less is more
118Twarpy
      ID: 519281715
      Thu, Oct 19, 17:27 		Purple Pimp: Just a reminder that we need your info for the all gurupie league, if you could go by the thread and tell us what team you want to transfer it would be appreciated.
119Wammie
      ID: 437541618
      Thu, Oct 19, 21:02 		It looks like the Giants made a move which moves one of their best pitchers, and gives him to their closest competition in the West. That move doesn't effect me, since I am out of it, but that is not something you would see every day.
120J
      ID: 32459220
      Thu, Oct 19, 21:57 		and I made a bunch of offers to get him!!!!!

Bleh! At least Pettite has been pitching better, lost 1-0 though ;(
121Whitey
      ID: 6437514
      Fri, Oct 20, 09:45 		I noticed that move also. Why someone would trade their best pitcher to the team right behind them in the standings amazes me. Granted, he wouldn't re-sign with him, but still. Also, it was kinda weird the way they did the trade. Enders went from the Padres to the Giants and back to the Padres. Geis went from the Padres to the Giants and Sheill went to the Padres..
122Brock
      ID: 42542238
      Fri, Oct 20, 11:16 		I made 2 offers to him. Each offer included Belcher and Burnham. The only difference was that one included Enders and the other included Geis. He wanted the one with Geis but accidentally accepted the one with Enders. He then wrote me and told me the error that was made so I corrected it and traded him Geis for Enders.
123TBRaiders
      ID: 26738619
      Fri, Oct 20, 13:47 		I thought it was a good trade for you Brock. I had an offer proposed to him too. My top hitting and pitching prospect and a couple more AAA prospects. Didn't have any proven ML pitcher to trade to him.
124Wammie
      ID: 569232116
      Sat, Oct 21, 16:25 		I had an offer on the table for him too. It sounds like he had tons of options. strange that he took the one that would have the highest chance to hurt him, but his team is in first and I am in last, so maybe he knows more than me!
125J
      ID: 50726110
      Mon, Oct 23, 13:31
Last Draft
NL East Gurupie? W - L Pct GB 10 Streak Pick Remaining Schedule
Cardinals Whitey (7) 34 - 22 .607 -- 8-2 W4 12 t Cubs, Mets
Mets J 32 - 24 .571 2 5-5 W3 11 Braves, @Cards
Cubs ??? 29 - 27 .518 5 3-7 L2 10 @Cards, Braves
z- Braves Purple Pimp 25 - 31 .446 9 3-7 L5 6 @Mets, @Cubs
Last Draft
NL Central Gurupie? W - L Pct GB 10 Streak Pick Remaining Schedule
Giants Alex (2) 35 - 21 .625 -- 8-2 W6 14 @Padres, Astros
Padres Brock 28 - 28 .500 7 5-5 L3 9 Giants, Dodgers
z- Dodgers ??? 26 - 30 .464 9 5-5 L4 7 Astros, @Padres
z- Astros Wammie 23 - 33 .411 12 3-7 W2 5 @Dodgers, @Giants
Last Draft
AL East Gurupie? W - L Pct GB 10 Streak Pick Remaining Schedule
y- Orioles TBRaiders (-3) 39 - 17 .696 -- 8-2 W8 16 @Red Sox, @Yankees
z- Yankees ??? 27 - 29 .482 12 5-5 W1 8 @Indians, Orioles
z- RedSox ??? 22 - 34 .393 17 3-7 L1 3 t Orioles, @Indians
z- Indians ??? 18 - 38 .321 21 3-7 L6 2 Yankees, Red Sox
Last Draft
AL West Gurupie? W - L Pct GB 10 Streak Pick Remaining Schedule
Royals Logos (5) 38 - 18 .679 -- 8-2 W1 15 @White Sox, @Rangers
WhiteSox ??? 34 - 22 .607 4 8-2 W4 12 t Royals, @Mariners
z- Mariners ??? 22 - 34 .393 16 2-8 L1 3 t Rangers, White Sox
z- Rangers Timing 16 - 40 .286 22 3-7 L4 1 @Mariners, Royals

y-clinched division title.
z-eliminated from playoffs.
Magic Number in parenthesis
126Wammie
      ID: 437541618
      Mon, Oct 23, 20:23 		Good work J! Do you have a spreadsheet that does the work for you or what?
127J
      ID: 50726110
      Tue, Oct 24, 08:11 		yeah. Stuff like the schedule I had to put in myself though.

Looks like I've gotta win 4 of 5 to take the division away from Whitey....

bleh!
128Whitey
      ID: 2543539
      Tue, Oct 24, 09:11 		The Cubs helped you out a little by splitting 4 with me. I won the first game 1-0!!! Then the Cubs won game 2 8-7 in a see-saw battle...in game 4, the Cubs won it 5-2 in 12 innings!!! Crazy series.

The White Sox are making a late move in the AL West..could they knock out the powerhouse Royals club??
129J
      ID: 50726110
      Tue, Oct 24, 09:22 		Week 15 update:


Last Draft Remaining
NL East Gurupie? W - L Pct GB 10 Streak Pick Schedule
Cardinals Whitey (3) 36 - 24 .600 -- 7-3 L1 12 Mets
Mets J 34 - 26 .567 2 5-5 W1 11 @Cards
z- Cubs ??? 31 - 29 .517 5 4-6 W1 10 Braves
z- Braves Purple Pimp 27 - 33 .450 9 3-7 L1 6 @Cubs
Last Draft Remaining
NL Central Gurupie? W - L Pct GB 10 Streak Pick Schedule
y- Giants Alex (-2) 37 - 23 .617 -- 8-2 W1 13 t Astros
z- Padres Brock 30 - 30 .500 7 4-6 L1 8 t Dodgers
z- Dodgers ??? 29 - 31 .483 8 5-5 W2 7 @Padres
z- Astros Wammie 24 - 36 .400 13 4-6 L2 3 t @Giants
Last Draft Remaining
AL East Gurupie? W - L Pct GB 10 Streak Pick Schedule
y- Orioles TBRaiders (-6) 41 - 19 .683 -- 8-2 L1 16 @Yankees
z- Yankees ??? 30 - 30 .500 11 6-4 W2 8 t Orioles
z- RedSox ??? 24 - 36 .400 17 4-6 W1 3 t @Indians
z- Indians ??? 19 - 41 .317 22 1-9 L2 2 Red Sox
Last Draft Remaining
AL West Gurupie? W - L Pct GB 10 Streak Pick Schedule
Royals Logos (3) 39 - 21 .650 -- 6-4 L1 15 @Rangers
WhiteSox ??? 37 - 23 .617 2 8-2 W1 13 t @Mariners
z- Mariners ??? 25 - 35 .417 14 5-5 W1 5 White Sox
z- Rangers Timing 17 - 43 .283 22 2-8 L1 1 Royals

y-clinched division title.
z-eliminated from playoffs.
Magic Number in parenthesis
130Timing
      ID: 189552418
      Tue, Oct 24, 18:55 		The Rangers win the #1 pick!!!!! Yesssssssss!

I had to really tank it there at the end with those Indians right on my heels like that. Geez.

Good luck to all the playoff teams and see ya next season!
131J
      ID: 32459220
      Tue, Oct 24, 18:58 		alright Whitey, this is the last year you'll be making the playoffs for a while, so enjoy it while you can!!!!!

Good Luck!

;)
132TBRaiders
      ID: 26738619
      Tue, Oct 24, 23:10 		I have never went into the Play-offs with more confidence. Even though I won the series last year, this is my best team yet. I went out and spent some of that cash and improved my hitting immensely. I am hoping half my team doesn't retire on me.

Hey Whitey. Wouldn't it be cool if we met up in game seven of the World Series. Austin pitches 8 shut-out innings only to have the bullpen come in and lose to my ace in the pen "Negrette"
hehehe =)

Any team can win in a 7 game series. Good luck to the other teams in the play-offs, except the Royals!
133Brock
      ID: 106282323
      Sun, Oct 29, 23:00 		Whitey - I can't believe Joyner made 2 outs in the top of the 9th in your first WS game. You must be totally pissed off. Hopefully you can take 2 of the next 3. Go NL!!!
134Whitey
      ID: 6437514
      Mon, Oct 30, 14:24 		Brock - I didn't even realize that about Joyner. Thanks for reminding me!!! Imagine if I was able to tie the game after being down 8-0 in the ninth. Regardless of the outcome, I am very happy with the way my team played this season. The Royals are a very, very good team. Marc Clark is ridiculously good..
135TB
      ID: 17352112
      Tue, Apr 03, 16:36 		BUTT
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