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0 Subject: P2 - Season 8!

Posted by: J
- [101131321] Wed, Dec 27, 22:44

OK, no whining in this thread. Or if you are gonna whine, do it about something new.

OK, I'll start.

Remember my great trade with the Cubs where I got Ramos & Norton?

Ramos retires at 34, Norton wont resign!

If anyone wants to swap a pitcher with me let me know!!!!!
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266Timing
      ID: 33010123
      Sat, Jan 20, 17:01
Hmm... this really does suck. On the other hand $3 a month isn't exactly robbery though there are some features that need to be improved if this game will be charging.

I wonder if we can gather up 30 Gurupies and everyone bring their best team in there. Yeah! That would really be fun to beat the crap out of you NL'ers with one of my other teams. Mwahahaha
267J
      ID: 32459220
      Sat, Jan 20, 17:46
$18 for 6 seasons isn't bad. BUT, I'd like to keep my team in V2 before I kept P2. Maybe some of you guys can swing over to V2 and join that league with your P2 team?

Actually I'm not sure how it'll work with 30 team leagues, I definitly don't want to start from scratch!!!

This sucks, but it could turn out to be a good thing. I think the commish will get his ear chewed off more now that its not free anymore!!!!!
268Wammie
      ID: 437541618
      Sat, Jan 20, 18:13
If P2 disolves, I would consider paying $3 a month for a brand new 30 team league. $3 is less than renting a movie. the amont of time i spend playing gsb would more than cover $3 dollars a month. If any one is interested in going to a 30 team league, say it here. I hate to be gone though. we have a lot of good guys(or gals) in here.
269Wammie
      ID: 437541618
      Sat, Jan 20, 18:27
How much are the FA's going for this season?
270Timing
      ID: 33010123
      Sun, Jan 21, 07:52
I'd love to get V2, O2, P3, and P2 owners in one league but I'd rather not have to use my P2 team. I don't want to spend money on this game and have to be in rebuilding mode with these Rangers. I'm definitely in though.

One thing I'm against though is joining a league with people who have used GRT a lot in the past. Again, paying to play against teams that had such an overwhelming advantage isn't exactly fair.
271Wammie
      ID: 437541618
      Sun, Jan 21, 13:06
Agreed Timing. That is why I think new leagues with a draft of all players would be needed. Also I wonder how gsb would work if say, I decided to stop playing because my team sucks, ie the M's now. Who would want to pay money from the start to play with such a bad team? I don't know how this pay thing is going to work.
272Wammie
      ID: 3311272918
      Sun, Jan 21, 13:22
Timer - One last comment and then I'm through with Duke/UNLV thing. The ACC was a very weak conference in 90-91. They had only 2 ranked teams. That's probably the fewest that I can remember coming from there. Most years it's a good conference but not that year. Sure they had 6 teams in the tournament but that's just because it's the ACC. It's given every year that they'll have 5 or 6 teams in the tourney. How many ranked teams did Duke beat?

I'm definitely in the new league, whether we start over or keep our teams.
273Brock
      ID: 106282323
      Sun, Jan 21, 19:48
Post 272 was from me not Wammie. His name must have been stored in my brother's computer from when he was back for the holidays.

274Purple Pimp
      ID: 91091619
      Sun, Jan 21, 19:55
God Damnit J you suck. Couldnt get one damn win against the Cardinals!! Now I have to play the Cards to see who goes to the playoffs which I will lose I know it.
275TBRaiders
      ID: 26738619
      Sun, Jan 21, 20:11
You need to work on your positive affirmations Pimpster.

I do think it will be one hell of a game.

I sure feel like I stumbled into the play-offs compared to the Royals.
276Wammie
      ID: 437541618
      Sun, Jan 21, 20:16
I guess now i don't get homefield advantage. i would be tied with who ever wins the east, but now with the one game playoff, one of you will have a better record. so there probably is no way for me to get home field.


277Timing
      ID: 33010123
      Sun, Jan 21, 20:18
Can we take a preliminary vote on who wants to keep this league of owners together?

I'm in, though I'm leaning towards favoring that every team start from scratch so that there are no huge discrepancies between teams. I think if everyone brought their best team it would cause some hard feelings.
278Timing
      ID: 33010123
      Sun, Jan 21, 20:22
Oh yeah, also if anyone has info on joining another league. If anyone's talked with owners in another league about merging or somethin.
279J
      ID: 32459220
      Sun, Jan 21, 20:55
sorry pimp, I really did want to help you!!!!

good luck against Whitey!

OK, I just found out the fines for having too many players really does exist!!!!! (its a hidden fine) Time for a fire sale when the playoffs are over!
280Brock
      ID: 106282323
      Sun, Jan 21, 20:56
Wammie just informed me that the commish wrote him and said that there are plans to start the leagues from scratch and have a player draft. Hopefully this is how it's done to make things as fair as possible.
281J
      ID: 41031315
      Sun, Jan 21, 21:13
yeah, but that makes the last 8 seasons worthless!!!!
282Brock
      ID: 106282323
      Sun, Jan 21, 21:37
The last 8 seasons are not worthless. They were a great experience for all of us. We now have a much better understanding of the game.
283Purple Pimp
      ID: 91091619
      Sun, Jan 21, 22:02
WOW, did Brock just make a good point?
284TBRaiders
      ID: 26738619
      Sun, Jan 21, 23:39
LMAO Pimpster!!!!


Brock just made a great point. The last 8 seasons have been fun as hell and a learning experience. We all have a much better understanding of the game. I am all for keeping the league together with the same teams we have here or with newly drafted teams.

If we do a merger with some of us bringing teams from other leagues I am sure that we can make a couple trades to insure that the members who want to also come, can bring as talented teams as the rest of us have in other leagues.

I am not tallking about completely unfair trades or the word I cannot spell (collusion?), but I sure would hate to see Rangel left behind.

;)

Remembering a trade with the Cubs and Dodgers about 6 seasons ago where the commish thought it looked fair...lol
285Wammie
      ID: 14013107
      Mon, Jan 22, 07:56
I would stay in P2 if it stays around, but I think it would be good to start over. The commish told me that new leagues are going to have drafts for your starting roster, which I think would be a good idea. Then we wouldn't have these lopsided teams. I think it makes the best sense, but we should keep most of this group together. I have a pretty good time talking trash in here.

(I don't really like the merger system, unless it is just a couple of teams.)
286Timing
      ID: 33010123
      Mon, Jan 22, 09:10
I don't think we have much choice about a merger. Every new league will be at least 30 teams so we will get a lot more teams in here.

I was lookin at V2 cause they seem like an active league but it doesn't seem they want to have a fair merger. They kinda want to keep all of their good teams and whoever joins them takes what's left over. I doubt they'd be for a new league from scratch.

Has anyone seen their website? I don't know whether to be impressed or to be scared!

http://www.geocities.com/league_v2/
287J
      ID: 50726110
      Mon, Jan 22, 09:35
I'm the Dodgers in V2, its incredible how active that league is.

You probably should be scared!

I think the overall hope of V2 is to keep everything as is, about 12 of the 16 of us are staying. We, well, I shouldn't say we, I don't really care, they, want to bring an entire league (maybe another 12 teams) into V2 and then hand select the rest of the owners. They also think that V2 shouldn't have to change any players' names, but again, who cares.

To me, it sounds like the V2ers have a big head and are expecting too much, but we'll see.

I'm not in favor of starting from scratch. Do you know how long it will take to do a draft!!!!!
288Whitey
      ID: 2543539
      Mon, Jan 22, 09:49
Oh baby, a one-game playoff to see who gets to face the Astros in the NLCS!!!!

Carmody vs. Corey

Talk about saving their best for last, my team played by far their best series of the season and I needed every last one of those games.

Great season PP, no matter how it turns out...our division is so competitive every season, It's gonna suck if we break it apart..
289St. Louis Psychos
      ID: 537422815
      Mon, Jan 22, 10:07
I know most of us in M2 are staying and that is a really competitive league. Maybe we could merge M2 and P2 together and make one kick ass league.
290Wammie
      ID: 14013107
      Mon, Jan 22, 10:52
I dont' know who to root for in this one game play off. Whitey beat my two years ago in the playoffs, so do i want a change at revenge, or does he have my number and I need a new oponent? Hard to say.
291Whitey
      ID: 2543539
      Mon, Jan 22, 11:09
If I were you, I would probably want to play the Cards. The Braves have a much better pitching staff (at least by looking at the stats) and our offenses are about the same.

Our pitching staffs should be about equal if you look at the ratings, but it hasn't worked out that way this season. His team ERA is a run less than mine!!!

Hopefully, it's a good game tonight either way..
292Brock
      ID: 42542238
      Mon, Jan 22, 11:37
I think V2 would be an excellent league to merge with, depending on how they set the new league up, merge or draft. Their web page is top notch too. They seem to have the second best league to ours.
293Timing
      ID: 33010123
      Mon, Jan 22, 11:54
Nah, I don't think V2 would be very good to merge with. They want to keep all their teams and then merge with an empty league and then assign owners to all of the empty league teams. They basically want to keep their league and just add a bunch of patsy teams to beat up on for a while. Their website is pretty cool though.

Maybe we can merge with one of the other Gurupie leagues? P3 or O2? Or both of them if there aren't enough owners.
294Wammie
      ID: 14013107
      Mon, Jan 22, 13:17
Are people opposed to joining with a different league, but getting new teams?
295Brock
      ID: 42542238
      Mon, Jan 22, 13:32
Why not just merge one of your current teams into the V2 league? I would definitely NOT join them if they want to merge their teams but not let others do it. I would be surprised if the commish sets up any of the new leagues with a complete draft. It would take WAY too long to do. You would have to draft your ML team and then all of your minor leagues. I doubt if he takes the time to set it up like this. Joining other Gurupie leagues sounds like a good idea too.
296Wammie
      ID: 14013107
      Mon, Jan 22, 13:41
I agree that getting in with other gurupie's is a good idea. even if there wasn't a draft, I would prefer to start from stratch. every team is set up to compete with its current league. I will take my Astros to another league if that is why most of the owners in P2 want to do. I would prefer new teams, but i will follow the majority.
297Timing
      ID: 33010123
      Mon, Jan 22, 13:50
I was goin to try to put my D2 team in V2 but they didn't seem too interested in that... lol. Or at least that guy Nate didn't seem too interested, he seems to run that league or somethin. I dunno.

In the merger thread most people so far seem to be in favor of bringing their own teams and not starting from scratch. If so I'm bringin my D2 Cards. I love that team!!
298Whitey
      ID: 2543539
      Mon, Jan 22, 13:56
Pimp - Where you at??? This is the day of your team's biggest game ever in P2 and you aren't in here to talk some trash with me!

I heard Carmody has come down with a slight case of food poisoning today. Hmmm, Could it have been that sushi I sent to his apartment last night???
299Wammie
      ID: 14013107
      Mon, Jan 22, 14:08
I hope you guys go 30 innings, with a lot of injuries. That or some terrorist act that takes care of both of you guys. then J would finally get into the playoffs! :o
300J
      ID: 50726110
      Mon, Jan 22, 14:22
woohoo!!! There's still hope!
Where's my Sadaam Houssein mask.....
301Wammie
      ID: 14013107
      Mon, Jan 22, 14:28
Any one talking about the merger, I was wondering what you guys think about the merger. My concern is based on teams like the Red Sox and the M's. If these owners have no other teams in GSB or if we can't make a league while pulling from a bunch of different leagues, is it right to make Stl and worm pay money to build up teams that suck but its not their fault? what do you guys think.

worm and stl to you guys, would you pay to build up your M's and Soxor would you rather have a new team like everyone else, or would you rather take a new team, but be put in a league with the rest of our teams?
302St. Louis Psychos
      ID: 537422815
      Mon, Jan 22, 14:35
I don't really have any intentions of trying to rebuild this team once we start paying. I am going to keep my M2 team as a keeper. If there are good discounts for multiple teams I may start a new team. So I see what you are saying. No I would not want ot pay money for a team that is going to take 3-4 seasons to rebuild.
303Wammie
      ID: 14013107
      Mon, Jan 22, 14:37
OK, you have a team that you could move. I don't think worm has a team other than the M's, but i could be wrong. I guess I just wonder what do people in his shoes do? i would like to see all of us go to one league, but if a guy doesn't want to pay to build up the team he is working on, i don't know what to do about that.
304J
      ID: 50726110
      Mon, Jan 22, 14:39
why does the fact that you're paying change anything? You can't have an awesome team forever. Since everyone's gonna want to win now, I'm happily accepting the role of rebuilder in V2. 2 seasons from now I'll be very glad I did! (hopefully)
305Purple Pimp
      ID: 91091619
      Mon, Jan 22, 14:45
Im here Whitey dont worry Carmondy is here and hes ready to throw his no hitter :). My team is superior to all!! Sing along with me OHHH OHH OHHHAA OHHH OHH OHHA OHHHHH OHHHH OHAA (cheap attempt of the braves fans singing)
306Wammie
      ID: 14013107
      Mon, Jan 22, 14:47
I am fine with taking my Astros with me, but when there is a monumental change, a level playing field would be a good place to start.

But like I said, I would go with my team though. I have spent most of my time in P2 trying to build a team, and now my team is OK. able to get to the playoffs at least. I wouldn't want to give them up for nothing, but an even playing field would be nice.
307Whitey
      ID: 2543539
      Mon, Jan 22, 14:58
Best pitcher on your team (Carmody) and you can't even spell his name right... sad, pimpster, very sad... ;)
308Wammie
      ID: 14013107
      Mon, Jan 22, 15:09
Oh PP, that was bad! (not the spelling either)
309Purple Pimp
      ID: 91091619
      Mon, Jan 22, 16:03
carmondy or carmody either way im gonna win whitey :)
310Blow Fish
      ID: 100132219
      Mon, Jan 22, 19:15
I think i am interested in joining the new league.
I'll pay.
311TB at work
      ID: 1311481612
      Mon, Jan 22, 20:41
I am game either way we go with the merger, but I agree with Wammie. I don't think it's fair for some teams to be strong and others weak.

My P2 Orioles will be rebuilding for the future and so maybe I will have to trade away some old stars like Rangel and Montgomery to the Astro's for some young talent.

I am not talking about collusion but I am talking about us all bringing in talented teams. I have Bluma, Reed, Scott and Downs starting for the team I will be bringing along with Tomko, King, Chen, Dixon and Flohr in my bullpen. I would rather draft teams or have the commish just assign teams based on the old A and B leagues.
312Wammie
      ID: 437541618
      Mon, Jan 22, 21:19
We will all have to wait and see what the commish decides. What ever he decides, I am sure we will all go along with it, and have a good time in the process.
313Wammie
      ID: 437541618
      Mon, Jan 22, 21:36
well, i was mistaken, the commish has said that leagues will be merged and made new with new players no one has ever heard of. i will go with the majority, but my vote is:
new league
314Timing
      ID: 33010123
      Mon, Jan 22, 22:04
The Royals in here already have Downs, Scott, Tomko, and Flohr... they used to have Mark Clark too. Plus Bluma and Reed could retire at any time. I really see no problem with everyone bringing a team except for people like worm who may not have a decentteam. Perhaps they could take over a team in here that someone is dropping.

Hey, someone want to start a new thread for this season cause this one takes about 5 minutes to load.
315TB
      ID: 17352112
      Tue, Apr 03, 16:41
Butt. Long thread here.
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