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Posted by: TBRaiders - [26738619] Wed, Feb 28, 17:04
Season 10 is at hand. Here are my predictions and a short analysis on each organization:

NL East

Mets- Repeat as NL East Champs. They have a well balanced offense. They could use an upgrade at 1B but that is digging to find a weakness. One of the three top rotations in the league and a solid bullpen. We can only hope that Tejera is an ornament and doesn't actually see any action.

Cardinals- What happened to this once mighty dynasty? Berry and Woodward are the only two legit MLB players outside of the outfield position. Needs a serious upgrade at the Catcher, 1B and 2B positions. Again, outfield is the heart of this batting order. Missing a true ace to round out this rotation so that Adkins can be moved back into strong bullpen. Will the Cardinals once again talk about moving their franchise once the losses begin to pile up?

Braves- No Catcher or 3B. Rumors have it that they are trying to work a deal with the Orioles to acquire Glaus and Chavera but the O's are wanting Carmody and the Braves have been unwilling to give this ace up. Good team speed but only 4 above average hitters. Other than 29 year old Fielder and 26 year old Sosa they have no power. Solid starting rotation but bullpen has problems. They have to hope that Osuna comes in for relief every game.

Cubs- Here is a team with no power hitting. Missing a solid 3rd outfielder and missing three solid hitters overall. Lots of quanity in this bullpen but no closer or work horse. Need a #3 starter to solidify rotation. With all the recent changes will this team have the chemistry to put together any winning streaks?

NL West

Dodgers- WS Champs have a great team average rating, good team speed, but only 3 power hitters. Good starting rotation but need more depth in their bullpen. The team looks solid enough to win their division again.

Padres- Petrick and Wright are the only power this team has. No outfield depth could hurt their chances as the season goes on. No true SS as well. It looks like they plan on platooning Crespo, Strange and Young at 2B and SS. Missing a solid number 3 and number 4 starter. Need to aquire these pitchers and move Bogott and Wells to the Pen for depth.

Astros- Good team average and team power. Team speed won't hurt them but it could hurt their chance to manufacture runs. Traded away heart and work horse of bullpen to acquire shaky 4 starter. Need Slocumb and rest of bullpen to step it up. Wouldn't hurt to add depth to this pen.

Giants- This years Mariners. Only 7 hitters on squad and all but 4 of them wouldn't find their way onto any other club. No 3B or SS and no help in their farm system. No legit staff ace and their best pitcher, Bertotti, has no heater. No "go to guy" in the bullpen and no depth.

AL East

Yankees- If last years formula holds true they could repeat as AL Champs. Great team average but no power and no speed. No true 1B and no hitting depth. Solid rotation and bullpen but not as strong as last year. Did improve 3rd base position with Cubs trade.

Orioles- Decent team average but only 7 hitters on team that should play full time. Trying to fill gaps with role players and it could hurt run production. Missing a #3-4 starter but appear to have him at middle relief (Montgomery). Lots of quanity in bullpen, but after Walker not a lot of quality. They do have AAA talent ready to step in if needed.

Indians- Lots of small moves made to improve team over the last 3 seasons. Line-up is eerily similar to Padres but has depth and added team power. Team average could use a boost but should be able to compete. Missing a true ace but rotation is decent. Missing depth in pen but Maeda and "Jalepino" Aquino will provide some solid outings.

Red Sox- Recent FA acquisitions seem odd for a team that will not be competing. Perhaps some type of merger "blocking" move. Terrible team speed for infielders and weak team average. Only 3-4 worthy MLB players. Very weak rotation with Towers being an okay #2-3 pitcher but gaps everywhere else. Decent bullpen headed by Raggio. Bullpen will see plenty of action.

NL West

Rangers- Already picked as my preseason favorites they make another move to become even stronger. Very good team average blended with speed and power hitting. Best starting rotation in majors and added Clontz to already best bullpen. Solid minor leagues to boot. If team lives up to potential, playing in weakened division, they could set the P2 win record.

Royals- No 2B and missing an outfielder. Poor team speed. Once powerful organization is falling fast. They still have Downs and Scott in rotation but Tomko's stats have fallen and they don't have a 4th starter. Decent bullpen. If they were in any other division they would be hard pressed to stay above .500 much less come in second place.

White Sox- No owner and no chance for winning much. They do have Bell and Rodgers in rotation but no 3rd starter, no bullpen and both pitchers have had problems with stamina. Missing a Catcher, 2B and an outfielder. Decent average team with a couple power hitters but no team speed.

Mariners- Not even going to give a worthy analysis here. Weak across the board. No hitting, pitching, management or farm system.

NL: Mets over Dodgers
AL: Rangers over Orioles
WS: Rangers over Mets
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175Whitey
      ID: 2543539
      Fri, Mar 02, 13:59 		I noticed that if a pitcher has even 1 category below 300, it fugs up his performance. Is this true in general or can a pitcher with 3 400+ categories still kick butt with a category below 300???
176Timing
      ID: 590262414
      Fri, Mar 02, 14:04 		My top 10 players I think. I considered both ratings and performance. Some players listed have lower ratings but better numbers and that's why they're listed. Also it's not a would I rather have this guy or that guy thing, just strictly a numbers/ratings decision.

1. Scott Downs
2. Brian Carmody
3. Julio Rangel
4. Richard Negrette
5. Ethan Faggett
6. Randy Brown
7. Scott Hunter
8. Ben Petrick
9. Jovino Carvajal
10. Cecil Fielder
177Brock
      ID: 42542238
      Fri, Mar 02, 14:05 		I think a pitcher definitely needs 400+ in CON, and if he has 2 other 430+ categories, I would consider him to be good. I don't worry about a sub 300 category on a guy that fits this description.
178Wammie
      ID: 20039259
      Fri, Mar 02, 14:07 		Damn, I went on a "field trip" at work and all kind of crap breaks out...

The pole, pagan or thompson, slight edge to pagan. as little as i value speed, it was the deal breaker.

Tinoco, Byrnes, and Reese are out standing prospects. hopefully for brock 2 of the three can hit averages of 485 and one of those two closer to 495.

McKnight and Price, if one of the other two cats can get up to around 410 they will be good otherwise, they will be a nubmer 3 or 4 starters. Inconsistant.
179TBRaiders
      ID: 26738619
      Fri, Mar 02, 14:11 		I like Reichert better. He would probably do a better job in your pen but I would start him over Perez.

I noticed the same thing Whitey. Just like the crap I got for the Negrette-Dixon deal last year, Dixon gets shelled at least every third time he pitches.

Timing, the slight digs you make with your posts (#173-...because I know only a gullible owner would accept such an offer.) don't help anyone get past an issue.

I agree on what you said about the Indians and it is true with most owners. You can learn what it takes to make a trade. I like to have ten hitters and ten pitchers on my team and some solid players in my minors that can eventually come up. The rest are trade bait.
180Wammie
      ID: 20039259
      Fri, Mar 02, 14:14 		I would def tak Reichert.
181TBRaiders
      ID: 26738619
      Fri, Mar 02, 14:24 		Timing, you have probably the deepest farm system in P2 so it is no slight to say that you have players there who can start for my team. Many of them could start for most teams.

I know that Lunar could and told you already that I would love to have him. The other two that could start for me would be Easley and Horne. I am not worried about 2B or OF, though, because the guys I have there are doing good and holding spots until my other guys develop. Easley will be on your team when your current 2B retires.

Right now him or Lunar could both replace your starters as well. Now, you do have a 4th person that couldn't start for me, but when I knock Muhamed El Phat around tonight you might be calling him up...hehehe
182Brock
      ID: 42542238
      Fri, Mar 02, 14:25 		Top 10 list

I would have to put Clontz on the list before Negrette. I would put Carmody ahead of Downs too. Rangel would be farther down the list too. TB, do you have any stats on Rangel for the past couple of seasons? It seems as though he's tailed off a little. I would rate Fielder 3 or 4. I would put Petrick at 5 or 6.

I know that Timing and TB are going to rip me for this, but the AL stats are very inflated compared to the NL when you look at lifetime stats. It's even out a little more this past year but for at least 4 seasons the Mariners, Rangers, Indians, and Red Sox sucked badly. I mean really bad. It's like hitting in Coors Field but then pitching at Comerica Park(Detroit).
183TBRaiders
      ID: 26738619
      Fri, Mar 02, 14:36 		Not going to rip but a couple of them had a better record then you did last year. It's not like the Cards(Whitey, I love ya brother, not dragging you into this), Padres, or Astros were ripping up the league last year.

Was it just me or did anyone else notice that Carmody didn't adjust too well to AL hitting last night. Maybe the NL stats are a bit inflated.

I also noticed that a couple recently traded AL "average" pitchers contained the powerful Mets. Austin and Bump more then held their own.

Coincidence? Probably not.
184Wammie
      ID: 20039259
      Fri, Mar 02, 14:41 		I agree with the last paragraph totally, but the good pitchers numbers are like hitting off of the Expos, while playing in a pitchers dream park because of those teams.

I would def put Clontz in as the top RP in the game. The guy is an animal, and will be really good for Timing.

185Whitey
      ID: 2543539
      Fri, Mar 02, 14:44 		If there was a discrepancy between the talent of the NL and AL, it no longer exists. Last season was a down season for the NL, many teams performed poorly including my Cards, the Stros and the Dodgers.

TB - You still have to consider that almost half the teams in the AL have no owner and whenever something goes wrong with the team there is nobody there to correct it.
186Wammie
      ID: 20039259
      Fri, Mar 02, 14:46 		34-7 was the series score for timing against the Rangers. That isn't going to happen in the NL. that was probalby as good as the m's could do too. the AL does not have the parity of the NL, and the NL's top teams are better than the AL teams, year in and year out. the WS has shown that.


187Brock
      ID: 42542238
      Fri, Mar 02, 14:47 		I didn't think you were illiterate TB but I'm having second thoughts. I clearly said and I quote "It's evened out a little more this past year but for at least 4 seasons the Mariners, Rangers, Indians, and Red Sox sucked badly.". Your HUGE sample of games clearly shows that the AL is now superior. I suppose you think my 2 relievers that start, Bogott and Wells are good too? They both have good records and ERA's. Let me tell you this, the sun shines on a dog's ass every once in a while.
188Wammie
      ID: 20039259
      Fri, Mar 02, 14:47 		Last season was a fluke. The commish knew that Brock and I had a bet going on and he set it up so neither one of us would have a chance at winning the division.
189Timing
      ID: 590262414
      Fri, Mar 02, 14:49 		Dennis Springer is 2-0 with a 1.20 era in the NL. lol I think whatever talent advantage you guys have imagined is definitely gone. I wonder where J is, those team rating things he does for hitting and pitching are awesome. I bet if he did that it would have 3 AL teams in the top 4/5 easily.
190J
      ID: 50726110
      Fri, Mar 02, 14:52 		I'll see if I can cook one of those bad boys up later this afternoon. Kinda busy at work today though...
191Wammie
      ID: 20039259
      Fri, Mar 02, 14:56 		now that you talked about it, he will give up like 20 runs. thanks timing. until now, trading for Springer was making me look good. you ruined that though.
192Timing
      ID: 590262414
      Fri, Mar 02, 14:59 		lmao sorry Wammie. I'm just surprised cause he had like a 7 era last season though the year before I think it was around 4.
193Wammie
      ID: 20039259
      Fri, Mar 02, 15:02 		Yeah, real f\_/cking funny timing! I might as well release him now.
194Timing
      ID: 590262414
      Fri, Mar 02, 15:06 		Dude what happened to the Dodgers? They have the worst record in the whole league. Even worse than worm's two teams.
195Brock
      ID: 42542238
      Fri, Mar 02, 15:08 		The season is too young to talk about players performaces and make them meaningful. Springer will be lucky to have an ERA in the 4's at seasons end.
196Brock
      ID: 42542238
      Fri, Mar 02, 15:10 		Have we had 100 posts today?
197Wammie
      ID: 20039259
      Fri, Mar 02, 15:13 		We all knew Springer wasn't going to keep up an ERA of 1.something, but now we all know it will explode to very high numbers. damn it.

stop talking about him, and don't talk about any more of my players who are over producing ;)
198Wammie
      ID: 20039259
      Fri, Mar 02, 15:15 		around 100 posts, and still Purple Pimp hasn't told us that he is taking the Braves to the merger. TB has claimed that he is but no word yet from the horses mouth.
199Timing
      ID: 590262414
      Fri, Mar 02, 15:22 		This quote from the off season thread is why I even brought up the question of whether or not PP was bringing his P2 team or not. I think most of us agree that his latest trade does more harm than good.

"Hey, guys Im not sure what team to bring into the merger.. I really want to bring my P2 Braves, but im not sure how they would hold up. I have another team the GIants in C they have a better lineup right now, but are older. Have alot better farm system and 250 mil in the bank. If I give you guys my log in and password would ya check it for me and give me your thoughts?"
200Wammie
      ID: 20039259
      Fri, Mar 02, 15:32 		after that trade, he has to bring in his C team, because his p2 team def won't hold up.
201TBRaiders
      ID: 26738619
      Fri, Mar 02, 15:43 		Brock, I was messing with you. I was giving you credit for not being as thick as you make yourself out to be by shifting the conversation back to the NL vs AL. Looks like we are back onto the trade talk. PP can come in and say whatever he wants but a big reason for this trade was so that he would have the depth to bring this team. If he didn't plan on bringing this team then the trade wouldn't matter to him either way. I have been trying to get Carmody from him for at least 5 years, probably more.

Right before we lost the White Sox owner I was very close to getting Mike Bell. I bet we would have gotten a lot of bitching about that one too.

Back to AL vs NL. You two are once again on crack. The top three teams are in the AL. Yankees, Rangers and Orioles, followed closely by the NL Mets and Dodgers.

It does bother me that we have lost so many owners from the AL but then again, the best I could do against the Sox was 2-2 and we won't talk about who the Giants have played...lol, and they don't even have a full compliment of MLB talent on their team.

I wish the Mariners were in the NL and we had the Padres or Astros. That would even out the team talent. I agree with what you are saying Whitey.

Brock, I am glad to see that I still have the unique ability to get under your skin, especially after all the crap I have taken the last 24 hours it feels good to laugh my ass off.

After looking at Timings AAA roster, I realized that several teams probably have a AAA OF that could start for me. I emailed two clubs already. I am shopping for a good OF. 470+ average rating and over 300 speed.
202Brock
      ID: 42542238
      Fri, Mar 02, 16:10 		I really don't know how you got under my skin becasue I didn't even feel anything. I was checking your team out, TB, and noticed that you have the best staff in the league but your hitters aren't as good as what I had remembered. You only have 5 big league hitters. What happened to all of them?
204J
      ID: 50726110
      Fri, Mar 02, 16:36 		Starting Pitchers:


Starters' Stats Age Fastball Breaking Changeup Control Overall
Dodgers 28.5 472.3 413.8 421.3 404.0 1,711.3
Astros 29.8 360.3 429.8 439.8 455.8 1,685.5
Rangers 26.5 464.3 423.0 383.3 411.5 1,682.0
Orioles 29.5 443.8 372.5 430.5 430.0 1,676.8
Royals 28.0 435.7 442.7 379.0 419.3 1,676.7
Mets 29.5 469.5 431.5 414.0 348.5 1,663.5
Cubs 27.5 447.0 400.5 398.8 403.0 1,649.3
Cardinals 27.5 461.5 382.3 374.3 423.5 1,641.5
Yankees 29.3 379.5 462.0 407.8 388.0 1,637.3
Padres 30.0 452.8 396.5 356.0 392.0 1,597.3
Giants 28.0 375.6 406.6 401.0 408.4 1,591.6
Braves 32.3 363.5 415.8 356.3 454.3 1,589.8
Indians 25.9 404.9 382.3 377.9 416.1 1,581.1
WhiteSox 29.5 437.8 384.8 343.8 390.8 1,557.0
RedSox 30.8 400.0 358.8 373.0 411.8 1,543.5
Mariners 27.5 337.8 352.3 341.8 399.0 1,430.8

205J
      ID: 50726110
      Fri, Mar 02, 16:40 		Bullpens:


Bullpen Stats Age Fastball Breaking Changeup Control Overall
Rangers 28.6 456.4 443.2 393.0 446.0 1,738.6
Dodgers 29.6 457.4 373.0 385.6 462.0 1,678.0
Indians 27.2 431.4 359.2 433.6 421.6 1,645.8
Orioles 28.7 441.3 396.8 386.5 421.0 1,645.7
Royals 28.3 460.8 381.7 405.8 387.8 1,636.2
Padres 27.8 445.0 386.6 395.4 402.2 1,629.2
Cardinals 27.4 439.6 369.0 377.4 434.6 1,620.6
Mets 29.8 404.3 407.0 370.2 437.8 1,619.3
Giants 28.0 377.5 448.3 421.0 371.3 1,618.0
Yankees 28.4 455.8 361.2 406.4 381.2 1,604.6
Astros 29.2 432.4 437.2 334.6 389.6 1,593.8
Braves 30.0 338.0 399.7 391.8 432.8 1,562.3
Cubs 30.0 377.0 399.4 385.8 394.8 1,556.9
RedSox 29.0 399.1 351.4 333.9 421.8 1,506.1
Mariners 27.7 392.8 358.8 348.3 396.5 1,496.5
WhiteSox 28.0 400.4 420.6 334.4 321.8 1,477.2

206J
      ID: 50726110
      Fri, Mar 02, 16:42 		Hitters:


Hitting Stats Age Average HR Gap Speed Overall
Yankees 29.3 486.4 351.6 362.9 352.4 1,553.3
Astros 29.4 475.8 389.0 326.1 387.8 1,578.6
Dodgers 30.9 473.9 347.2 333.3 390.4 1,544.9
Mets 29.4 472.8 400.2 360.3 385.2 1,618.6
Orioles 29.7 470.6 353.8 365.3 398.6 1,588.3
Rangers 27.1 469.9 350.8 313.7 444.4 1,578.8
Padres 29.1 465.4 365.1 363.4 390.1 1,584.0
Cubs 29.8 462.6 320.9 351.3 386.4 1,521.2
Indians 28.3 460.7 352.9 359.0 332.4 1,505.0
Cardinals 29.6 460.4 330.0 420.7 389.3 1,600.4
Braves 30.4 460.1 391.8 354.4 415.4 1,621.7
WhiteSox 30.4 457.5 368.8 359.9 311.5 1,497.6
Giants 27.6 453.6 381.8 368.1 308.4 1,511.9
Royals 27.0 452.9 397.8 343.0 350.0 1,543.6
RedSox 31.0 441.8 380.4 361.9 374.5 1,558.6
Mariners 29.0 419.4 367.0 337.8 393.1 1,517.3

207Timing
      ID: 590262414
      Fri, Mar 02, 16:53 		Hmm I dunno about these numbers. No way that my starters are better than TB's and Wammie's aren't better either. Perhaps median values would be a better representation.
208Timing
      ID: 590262414
      Fri, Mar 02, 17:12 		And my offensive numbers are out of whack cause of Tyler Houston. I just have him on the roster to meet the minimum players, he don't even play man!!
209TBRaiders
      ID: 26738619
      Fri, Mar 02, 18:10 		The minimum hitters you need are 9 and and nine are required to complete your batting rotation.

I thought my starters were higher too but I suppose Wammie did get Bluma recently. I am a bit surprised at my hitters being so high. Not too shabby for only 5 of them being MLB quality.
210Timing
      ID: 590262414
      Fri, Mar 02, 18:44 		You need 19 to meet the minimum players on a roster. I have 10 hitters and 9 pitchers. Mr Smartypants!


Trevor Cobb is my new ace. All hail Trevor Cobb!
211Timing
      ID: 590262414
      Fri, Mar 02, 18:45 		BTW I'm sure I don't have to mention what a lucky SOB you were in our series TB. Needless to say it will be a different story when we play in Texas.
212Wammie
      ID: 437541618
      Fri, Mar 02, 19:13 		Who all out there has a mlb hitter who they would trade? i need a fill in for 5 weeks. there are not enough injuries in this game, I have said that many times, but when you get one, it is really bad, because no one else gets them. most people's teams are not set up for an injury, at least mine isn't.

213Timing
      ID: 590262414
      Fri, Mar 02, 19:32 		You want Tyler Houston? He's a decent hitter.
214TBRaiders
      ID: 26738619
      Fri, Mar 02, 21:06 		I was very glad to win our series tonight Timing. Your team stats were so high I was a bit intimidated. They don't look so good now that they faced my pitching, though.

;)

That's two games I have lost where Carmody has started. My only two losses since the trade. I get to play the Mets next and they are due for a break-out series.

Bump hit a Bump in the road for you Pimpster but Austin pitched well. Phillips is tearing the cover off the ball and Glaus and Thompson are still playing great. Especially for being average and trash stop-gap players.

The Giants are winning games they just shouldn't be winning. The entire NL East is in a funk.
215Brock
      ID: 3311272918
      Sat, Mar 03, 00:40 		The commish has spoken.
216TBRaiders
      ID: 26738619
      Sat, Mar 03, 00:48 		I doubt I still have a team after I have spoken.

Cya

TB
217Wammie
      ID: 437541618
      Sat, Mar 03, 00:51 		What does that mean TB? you quittin'?
218Wammie
      ID: 437541618
      Sat, Mar 03, 00:59 		I wish we could get some details from the commish.
219Timing
      ID: 590262414
      Sat, Mar 03, 02:13 		Man I don't agree with that stuff at all. Who in the hell wrote the Commish about the trade!?! I sure as hell didn't. I can't believe after all the times one of us has complained about completely ridiculous trades only to be told they were fine that NOW the Commish steps in on this trade. Unbelievable...
220TBRaiders
      ID: 26738619
      Sat, Mar 03, 03:02 		I was upset when I saw what commish did. I am not really sure if anyone actually emailed him to complain. As soon as PP accepted the trade I wrote to the commish and explained the trade. I knew it would look lopsided in his favor(to everyone outside P2...lol) so I wanted to explain it.

I have proposed a very similar trade to PP. I didnt include King, who was just released. I also took out stop-gap-trash OF Thompson and added SP Ashby. There are five trade offers and in each one he also gives up players.

This trade will look fine for the books but isn't much different. I have to admit that by the time I finished writing the commish I was much calmer and had to reword much of it. Along with posting on the GSB message forum, I also emailed him through GSB and at Support@GrandSlamBaseball.com

Realizing that today is Friday we do have a little more time for him to respond.

I don't know what my reaction will be if things stay as they are. I am sick of all my other GSB leagues being so lame. I am sick of the lack of response by the commisioner to issues that need to be addressed and how he handled an issue that didn't need to be addressed.

He emailed me back earlier today to tell me that he cannot fix game schedules because the season already started. I notified him prior to season starting. He hasn't answered how much it will cost for multiple teams and hasn't given much of a clue when it will change to paysite. He has left the same notification up for a month telling us games will be simmed on a Saturday in early February. Regardless of what all the ass kissers say at the site, the commish is making money from this game. I have noticed about 20 different advertisers at the site since he announced he is going pay site.

We have seen many lopsided trades that haven't been addressed. This trade wasn't lopsided, especially not in the way the commish thinks it was.

Ho hum. I will check in tomorrow and Sunday to see if I got a response.
221Timing
      ID: 590262414
      Sat, Mar 03, 03:26 		Dude, why did you email the Commish? Bad move... I agree about the advertising. I pointed that out about 2 weeks ago. I've seen so many new ads I've lost count.

I posted on the GSB boards about this but I doubt the Commish will care. I know he's busy but it takes an act of Congress for him to address important issues so that's why I was shocked he did anything about this trade.
222Purple Pimp
      ID: 91091619
      Sat, Mar 03, 03:54 		Hmm lots of stuff since I have been gone. The answer to the question that everyone wants to know is.. I am not sure If i am going to brign my team or not its about 50 50. And what the commish did do the trade is total garbage. I dont even want to be in this game anymore im so pist right now.
223Timing
      ID: 590262414
      Sat, Mar 03, 04:12 		What you just did is total garbage. The Commish reverses the trade and you go RIGHT BACK a few hours later and make another damn trade with TB for essentially the same damn players? You're either in on something with TB or you're just plain stupid. You didn't even go around the league to see if you could get a better offer, something a decent owner will always try to do. You just side stepped what happened to get the original result. You're just asking to get your ass kicked out of this game.
224TBRaiders
      ID: 26738619
      Sat, Mar 03, 05:02 		Hmmm, we thought we made a good trade. The commish shouldn't have changed it. Now that everyone has gotten a good look at what was offered and accepted I think I would be pretty pissed if someone came in behind me and one-upped the deal.

If the commish changes it again or boots me from GSB then so be it.

The commish changed it back because he thought I gave up too much. You are upset because you don't think I gave up enough(actually because you want to get these pitchers but that is besides the point). Please don't get upset at either of us again.

We have both now made this trade twice. Agree or disagree with it, but it was our choice and we both feel it benefits our own team.

TB
225Purple Pimp
      ID: 91091619
      Sat, Mar 03, 05:13 		Commish kicks me out big deal i dont give a flying f*uck. This is a great game and I enjoy it alot, but for him to step in like that was very wrong and to whoever emailed him go f*ck yoursELVES
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