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Posted by: Brock - [26328214] Wed, Apr 18, 14:59
This is a public service anouncement to the rest of the league. We are now at Moose Humper Defcon 4. Moose Humpers will be eliminated on sight.
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205TB
      ID: 17352112
      Fri, Apr 20, 21:46 		My pitchers are all getting shelled. Especially my Bullpen. I have never used KRP and don't plan on it, but I am going to try out a test for the next sim. I want to know if my relievers are just that bad or if is something in the programing. I inserted the two RP who have been dinged the hardest into my starting rotation. I put my two best starters into my pen.

Now, more then likely I will just get shelled tomorrow and probably incur some injuries. I only inserted my two best pitchers into 2 relief slots and 3 relief slots respectively.

I know this league has much better players overall, but even when I played the top teams in Z2, Scott Downs normally shut them down. It is kinda screwy seeing him perform well for some teams and getting rocked on mine. Oh well, not whining just going to experiment some.

If any of you have a beef with it, get over it. I am going to test it out and see what happens. It is the first season and time to test stuff out. I will be switching it back after tomorrow's sim.

TB
206J
      ID: 133352021
      Fri, Apr 20, 21:57 		the commish said he added players to the draft. Time to start all over again.

Would it be worth even asking him to postpone the draft until week 12 or so?

While we're at it, why not make the draft in the offseason??? permanantly. Thats when there's the least management to do. In fact, its just plain boring for us non-playoff teams! Any thoughts?
207Big Poo Generator
      ID: 57844423
      Fri, Apr 20, 22:45 		I'm all for that. During the postseason would be a good time.
208Sanfran
      ID: 4222279
      Fri, Apr 20, 23:19 		If prospects still advanced durning the season i would be all for that too, but if we wait untill the end, we will loose like 12 sims worth of improvement, and thats not a good thing.
209Wammie
      ID: 437541618
      Sat, Apr 21, 00:45 		I see San Fran's point, but if the players are programmed to get to a certain level reguardless of how many sims it takes then it wouldn't matter. I am 110% in favor of moving the draft to the offseason.
210J
      ID: 32459220
      Sat, Apr 21, 10:07 		I don't understand how they'd lose any sims of improvement. If anything, they'd gain sims.

If they don't sign until the next season, they have one whole season as 0 years pro, instead of 12 sims.
211Timing
      ID: 34328713
      Sat, Apr 21, 11:40 		I don't see a problem with the way it is other than the order. Everyone just decide on an order and be done with it. We don't need any radical changes.
212Wammie
      ID: 437541618
      Sat, Apr 21, 12:47 		Timing, you know that the offseason is the time of year that gsb is boring. if the draft was during that time, it would allow for better drafting. I think it is a damn good idea.
213Timing
      ID: 34328713
      Sat, Apr 21, 12:55 		Why the hell would I want better drafting? lol The offseason is now only 2 days, have you looked at the calendar?
214Buchster
      ID: 57324121
      Sat, Apr 21, 13:47 		Ok, all offers for Sims as they stand now are final. I'm going to analyse them a little more and I will making my decision shortly.
215skinneej
      ID: 22235410
      Sat, Apr 21, 13:52 		Does anyone else notice something odd in the schedule for June 7th? It appears that the day is skipped since no game is missed, like it does not exist. I was looking ahead on my rotation, and that could throw me off a little. The all-star break is in July, so I wonder why there is an off day in June.
216J
      ID: 32459220
      Sat, Apr 21, 14:28 		not only the offseason, but the post season is boring for 18 of 30 teams. You'd still have the whole regular season to rate your draft (but thats only 8 days). Now that there's twice as many players, I think it would be nice to have 3 weeks to do it.
217Buchster
      ID: 57324121
      Sat, Apr 21, 14:31 		Ok, my decision is made, and is up on the website. I was pleased with everyones offers, and there is no doubt in my mind that some people will be disappointed.
218J
      ID: 32459220
      Sat, Apr 21, 15:46 		I emailed the commish about moving the draft, he asked me to post it on the GSB message board and see what everyone thinks. He said he'd definitly consider it.

So, go to the message board and speak your mind! Either way.
219King TB
      ID: 1311481612
      Sat, Apr 21, 16:14 		I am disappointed but also relieved that I don't have to listen to "Certain P2 Folk" bitch that I gave up 10 players and they were crap and yada yada.

I don't think his offer matched mine but we'll see how the RP and OF turn out before passing full judgement.
220Brock
      ID: 371582223
      Sat, Apr 21, 17:11 		Let me guess Queen TB, you were offering 10 marginal prospects again. I assume you are talking about the Ken Sims trade. I doubt if your offer matched Timing's. He gave up some good players to get him. Those 20+ players you gave PP would not have been worth Ken Sims. I'm sure everyone else agress. It's not quantity, it's quality. One of these years you'll learn that.
221Sanfran
      ID: 4222279
      Sat, Apr 21, 17:24 		Man Timming gave up 2 prospects and 4 players that are done improving. Nice trade timming!
222Buchster
      ID: 57324121
      Sat, Apr 21, 17:24 		Actually Brock, he was giving up good prospects, it's just that there was no certainty as to how they would end up. With the players Timing gave up, it is pretty much guaranteed where they'll end up. Either they were done improving already or they were in there 2nd year and had very good stats already. The sporadic prospect development of late is what pushed me towards Timing's deal and away from TB's. I've seen too many 4 star average guys end up below 400. TB's deal was riskier, but could have turned out to be just as good, maybe better. You'll definately have some guys in there for the future TB.
223Sachin
      ID: 423202021
      Sat, Apr 21, 17:59 		Well, I too am a little dissapointed with the Ken Sims decision as I felt my offer was much better than what was accepted, but oh well, I guess he wanted more MLB ready players. So be it.
224TB
      ID: 17352112
      Sat, Apr 21, 18:11 		You changed on me from rebuilding to retooling and so I understand why you took his offer. I think you could have made him give you the other SS on his AAA team, though.

Brock, you are a nerd. I am assuming that your negative reaction to my post was because you know you were one of the chief whiners of the deal. Nothing new about that. It does get old. Even the kettle finally admitted that it was black.

I did give PP some "add-on" players that were not relevant to our deal. If your simple mind can't process that then let's make it simplier. He got some good players for the two pitchers and then I threw in a bunch of other players I didn't need.

If you don't think I squared PP away with some trades last season, look at his team. Starting pitchers Fogg and Andra came from me. They are both still improving as well. 1B Flaherty came from me. Several of you labeled him as a marginal prospect. I don't see many 490+ average rating hitters on your team. Glaus came from me. He had a great season last year and several for me before that. Heck, he is on another team in this league (diff. name) and is having a monster season.

Now, continue to watch these prospects from PP's team: Guerrero, Evans, Ashby, Nunez, Cuddyer, Mercedes, and Giles. I am sure I am missing a few others but at a quick glance those are players I traded to him whose names have not changed.

For the record, I don't see Carmody or Thompson on my team. Both were turning 30 this year also. Who really ended up with the better deal?

Lastly, when I made the trade with Pimpster I gave him more good prospects then your entire organization had. After our 3rd season together in P2, my team was a WS contender every year and never finished below .500 or worse then second in division (unlike your losing records and limited amount of division titles). Heck, I only lost the division twice to the Yankees and I did win two Championships.

I am sure I can still learn some things about GSB and I am sure there are people in this league who can teach me. You are not one of those people.

TB
225Big Poo Generator
      ID: 57844423
      Sat, Apr 21, 18:27 		Congrats to Timing on getting Sims. Like everyone else here I think my offer was better, but oh well. From my perspective, the outfielder is the only potential star Timing gave up. If he gets to 480/480, then it was an even deal; otherwise Timing got a steal. To me it's just as likely he'll end up at 440/440 even though he's already got high ratings with few years pro. I've been burned by this before. Anyway, I hope it works out for you Buchster.
226TB
      ID: 17352112
      Sat, Apr 21, 19:20 		We are all going to feel like we had a better offer. I am glad that someone else saw the quality of players traded like I did. The RP could turn out to be okay. I was worried that I was missing something when Brock professed them to be great players. I had to step back and look at the source.

Buchster was looking for two starters to replace Sims and another SP. He wanted a SS who was ready to play and possible help for depth at RP, OF, and an upgrade at 3B. He probably didn't get the best deal as far as players go, but he took the best deal that helped his team right now.
227Brock
      ID: 371582223
      Sat, Apr 21, 21:11 		Blah, blah, blah TB. It's the same sh!t we've heard the last 2 season. You had very few prospects especially compared to me. Your team wasn't even good enough to bring to the merger. They were gettting old and you had no farm system, before or after the trade. You're the only person that thought it was a fair deal and thought your prospects were worth anything. What prospects on your team can you compare to Byrnes, Tinoco, Ledee, Dunn, Reese, McKnight, Stone, Byrnes, Brown, Jones or Lopez? You are all talk and can't back sh!t. You won 2 titles and I won 1. Who cares? Nobody here. Once again you are bitter because Timing punked you.
228TB
      ID: 17352112
      Sat, Apr 21, 21:21 		LOL, you are such a little man.

You didn't have all those guys when I made the trade. You got most of those trading your old chumps to the Dodgers.

My P2 team would probably be doing better then this team. I still have my excel file from that team and it wasn't old, but it was very good. I did give PP many of my prospects but it was still twice the team yours has ever been or will be.

Brock's Daddy
229Timing
      ID: 34328713
      Sat, Apr 21, 21:23 		I'm glad to see everyone is so pleased with the trade. lol I gave up 4 solid major leaguers and 2 pretty good prospects so I don't know how why there are some whiners. In fact in part of TB's whine he talks about Glaus yet Lucca's numbers are almost identical to Glaus'. Go figure! lol

You know the funny part about this is that I didn't even make an offer for Sims until the last minute because I came to find out who some of the bidders were. Not from Buchster but from just talking with other people. It was probably more important for me to prevent some of you from getting him as it was to add him to my team. Mission accomplished! hehehe
230Timing
      ID: 34328713
      Sat, Apr 21, 21:31 		Brock got swept again! lol This time by Bluto. Uh oh!
231TB
      ID: 17352112
      Sat, Apr 21, 21:43 		Now Timing has tried to punk me. Not whining Timing. Post number 226 doesn't look like it to me. I even emailed you and congratulated you on trade.

I am just sick of Brock acting like the Elite league bully and will punk him every time he acts like an ass. That is going to mean extended time online for me.....lol.

Glaus did used to kick butt but I am not professing him to be a stud now. The quality of players in this league is deep. Seems like an average rating below 470 just isn't going to cut it. Time will tell. Comparing players to the P2 league and this league is apples and oranges. Glaus was a top 5 3B in P2. He isn't a top 20 in here.

I looked at trade and don't see where there are 4 solid MLB players. Which ones would start on your team? The SS and 3B are both back-up players. Neither is a stud. Look at my AAA team. I have plenty of guys who have stopped between 460-470 who are just there for trade bait or injuries. I wasn't going to get harsh on the trade but a RP with a 402 fastball, and chances are that at least one cat. won't be over 400, isn't a stud. The OF prospect looks legit but he could stop at 450 average as well. Both pitchers are kinda old for a rebuilding/retooling team and neither is better then a #4 or #5.

Good trade for you. Heck, a big reason I wanted to get him was so that you wouldn't. You have a good team but your pitching is old. Looks like you will dominate this year, but father time is catching up on you. It is your only weak area as far as depth goes in your organization.
232Buchster
      ID: 57324121
      Sat, Apr 21, 21:47 		Kalinowski went 2-0 giving up two runs in his first two starts, and Lucca bats .333 with 11 RBI in his first week. I'll take that. If not for my goddamn bullpen I could have been 7-2 this week. I'm in the cellar of my division, yet only 5 games back.

Now, does anybody know where I can get the Jaws of Life. I need to remove Dave Evan's head from his ass after he blew yet another game.
233Brock
      ID: 371582223
      Sat, Apr 21, 21:47 		I did sweep Whitey though. All those guys I named were drafted by me except Ledee and Stone. Face it TB, your team wasn't that good just like your current team isn't that good. I guess it could be the GM though. I know you are very pissed now that Timing got Sims over you and you now have no chance of making the playoffs for the next 10 seasons. Look on the bright side, you'll at least have a good draft pick.
234Timing
      ID: 34328713
      Sat, Apr 21, 22:02 		I wasn't trying to punk you, just showing you how some of the players compare. Whether or not a player would start on my team isn't a good definition for a solid player. There are a lot of very good players even in my own minors that would not start for my team. You're trying to gauge this trade on how it affects my team rather than the talent I gave up. I didn't give up any of my starters so that's why you probably have the opinion that I didn't give up much. Nobody in their right mind would trade 4 front line starters along with 2 prospects for Sims. That's just not going to happen.
235TB
      ID: 17352112
      Sat, Apr 21, 22:06 		Won't be as good as yours but should be better then Timings for a season or two.

lol

Glad they played well for you Buchster.

Brock, your team in this league isn't as good as mine. Your team in P2 was never as good as mine. Maybe the first two seasons. While you were screwing yours up I was building mine. Even the year you had your Fluke WS win, you were maybe the 6th best team. The sim Gods took care of you that year.
236Sanfran
      ID: 4222279
      Sat, Apr 21, 22:10 		Timing - I think its a great trade for you, but you still cant beat me, ive allready beaten sims once, and i guess ill have to do it again next week.
237Timing
      ID: 34328713
      Sat, Apr 21, 22:10 		Kalinowski did better than Sims. lol Damn...
238TB
      ID: 17352112
      Sat, Apr 21, 22:13 		BTW, do me a favor Brock. The very next stupid thing you say, can you "back it up" for us. I see you doing a lot of talking about *proof* but where is yours?

I will admit that your team is doing much better then I thought they would. You will still get a nice draft spot next year.

My experiment with SP in pen had mixed results. No injuries. Autry did better as a starter then a reliever. Dorgan/Morgan, whoever I put in pen, did well from pen. On a bad note, I lost 6 of 9 and am now at .500 with the Giants and Padres coming to town. Probably not a good week to continue my experiments, but then again, my players have to start performing eventually.
239Brock
      ID: 371582223
      Sat, Apr 21, 22:16 		More garbaged spewed out of TB's ass. The same thing over and over gets very old. I've built one of the strongest teams, in P2 standards. Nobody had the young talent that I had in P2 other than Timing. Just look at my team. You can't deny the facts anymore. My team has struggled this year due to my bullpen exploding and I probably have one of the better pens in the league. Only time will tell. I'm 2-2 against you so we're even so far. Timing will kick your ass every year and there will be nothing you can do about it. He may kick my ass too but I will still have a good chance to win my division in years to come.
240Timing
      ID: 34328713
      Sat, Apr 21, 22:23 		Brock finally comes clean with the truth. I will be kicking both of your asses every year. lol
241TB
      ID: 17352112
      Sat, Apr 21, 22:42 		LOL. "Timing will kick your ass every year and there will be nothing you can do about it...." I didn't realize that he was such a big fan. Anyone want to join Brock's new fan club?

I am looking at your team Brock. I looked at everyones team and yours doesn't stack up. At least I already admitted that I am the 2nd best team in my division. It's under TB's Take in case you didn't get to read it.

"The same thing over and over gets very old...." Exactly Brock. Why don't you give it a rest for a while. Blah Blah, spew, spew, someones ass, excuse excuse, whining, whining, my team is the greatest.....Yawn.

Nice winning streak San fran. I do hope I can break that up. Doyle is kicking butt for you too. Here's to hoping that I can blemish that 9-0 record. I changed my rotation back to my normal starters.

For the 6-7 owners that actually read and post, I need to make some trades for pitching. Starters or Relievers. Let me know who you have available and I will offer a trade. Any hitter in my club is available for the right pitcher.
242Bluto
      ID: 3323230
      Sat, Apr 21, 22:51 		Timing, Thanks for pointing out that i swept Brock. That will make it harder for him to win the division. He didn't like me much before, well i'm sure he f@#king hates me now! Sorry Brock better luck next time.

I'm looking to trade for a young catcher with high average if anyone has one available for prospects drop me an in-game email. I'm also interested in an ace reliever if someone is willing to deal one.
243J
      ID: 133352021
      Sat, Apr 21, 22:55
Rank Team Total Change
1 Giants (41-11) 208 0
2 Twins (31-24) 191 +2
3 Angels (36-17) 184 0
4 Cubs (34-21) 178 -2
4 Blue Jays (32-23) 178 +1
6 Diamondbacks (35-19) 159 +12
7 Royals (36-17) 155 -1
8 Astros (27-26) 153 +1
9 Padres (28-24) 152 -2
10 Expos (27-25) 139 -2
11 White Sox (31-22) 127 0
12 Mets (24-30) 111 +1
13 Red Sox (23-30) 100 +1
14 Indians (21-32) 99 -4
15 Rockies (25-28) 95 +6
16 Orioles (22-32) 93 +3
16 Devil Rays (29-24) 93 +8
18 A's (27-27) 91 -3
19 Phillies (23-30) 85 -7
20 Pirates (24-28) 82 -3
21 Brewers (22-31) 75 +1
22 Tigers (23-29) 73 +4
23 Marlins (26-28) 70 -3
24 Braves (22-30) 68 -1
25 Rangers (22-32) 66 -9
26 Cardinals (23-31) 57 -1
27 Reds (22-31) 54 0
28 Dodgers (21-31) 41 +2
29 Mariners (22-30) 38 0
30 Yankees (17-33) 16 -2

244TB
      ID: 17352112
      Sat, Apr 21, 22:58 		I am looking to trade a couple 460 average guys, a half dozen OF and 3B prospects with 4 star averages and my Ford Explorer for a good pitcher.

Brock, I am going to stop babysitting in a few minutes so if you got anything else dumb to say tonight, I will have to get back with you tomorrow.
245Brock
      ID: 371582223
      Sat, Apr 21, 23:18 		Mr. Mom - I didn't realize that you had a part time babysitting job. I suppose you do that to pay for your meth addiction. If you don't think my team stacks up to others and especially yours, I will have to question your thinking, well I guess I've done that from day 1. My hitting and bullpen is top notch. My SP is the only thing that's lacking. I still have a trade in the works and it will only strengthen my SP.

I've had terrible luck so far this year so I doubt if it can get any worse. I will be in the division lead within the next few weeks. That's a lot more than you can say or wish for. Tell the kiddies goodnight for me.
246Wammie
      ID: 437541618
      Sun, Apr 22, 00:53 		bad luck, i have lost 2 of my top 5 pitchers to 8 week injuries. that is bad luck.
247TB
      ID: 17352112
      Sun, Apr 22, 02:38 		I pimp out your Mom to pay for my Meth addiction. As long as you question my thinking and we are not on the same sheet of music, I am happy.

Wammie & Brock -Goodnight Kiddies.
248Brock
      ID: 371582223
      Sun, Apr 22, 10:58 		Everyone questions your thinking, just look back at past threads. I have no clue what you're talking about when it comes to this sheet of music stuff but I guess you must be talking about your skin flute practices. I bet that Jethro and Billy Bob down there in Missouri really like it when you play the skin flute for them.
249Brock
      ID: 371582223
      Sun, Apr 22, 11:13 		So are we going to keep the same draft order or do you think it would be better to send an email out to the league and ask for their opinions or just vote here? I still think we should change it based on records after week 8. This seems like the most logical way to do it. We could then email the commish with the new order.
250King TB
      ID: 1311481612
      Sun, Apr 22, 11:48 		I doubt we can change it, but I don't care either way. I will go with whatever majority decides.

Last comeback was lame Brock, but knowing you as long as I have, I know that you like to get the last word before the bashing stops. So, I will give you one last opportunity.

I haven't met Jethro and Billy Bob yet. They did call and told me that they left your house yesterday. I explained to them that Flute lessons were an Iowa thing and that seeing how they learned from you they are probably masters at their craft. They decided to stay there, raise their corn crops and continue to be mentored on techniques from you.

Outside of Iowa, music is played with instruments. Isn't it wonderful how the internet allows people to close communication gaps and learn things about other communities? For instance, outside of Iowa men don't take baths with their father and it isn't okay to have intercourse with farm animals. All relatives only have one title. As an example, your sister is just your sister, she isn't your Aunt as well.

I will try harder to be more patient with you. Only knowing how life is in Iowa, I can see how you might think that everyone else views the world as you see it.
251Brock
      ID: 371582223
      Sun, Apr 22, 14:07 		That was an original comeback. I know you have little creativity so I've come to expect it. You live in Missouri, the origin of the phrase "incest is best". Everything you spoke about in that last post is common occurrences in your state. Your state is the laughing stock of the US. The jokes are too numerous to count. You're only digging yourself a bigger whole by trying to go where you were attempting to go.
252Big Poo Generator
      ID: 57844423
      Sun, Apr 22, 14:40 		I'm for switching the draft order based on week 8 standings. It won't affect me much, but it is the fairest thing to do. I would think it would be pretty easy for the commish to do it. He's already done it once.
253J
      ID: 32459220
      Sun, Apr 22, 15:42 		I think we should re-do the draft. As long as the commish is cool with it, there's no reason not to. There's no reason a top team in this league should be getting a top 10 pick.
254TB
      ID: 17352112
      Sun, Apr 22, 17:38 		LOL, that phrase applies to the whole midwest. I am stationed here brother, not from here. I went to Iowa once too. Kansas, Nebraska, Iowa, Missouri...and on and on. Must be why you all look the same, inbreeding.

My comeback was very original and funny. Yours was lame, again. Equivalent to the "I'm rubber, your glue" mentality. I was going to bust on you some more but it is just too easy.

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