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Subject: P2 Old Timers Thread
Posted by: TBRaiders
- [57351168] Tue, Jun 12, 17:32
Worm, only you would know where the gay forum is. I bet you could draw Brock a strip map from memory.
Brock, you must have been having dreams about men or something. That is the only time I have seen that subject.
Anyone else thinking that Whitey was on dope if he thought his current team could compete? Decent? If I wear a pair of socks all day they smell decent.
Players available: SS Mappes and 1B Stanley. If I had known I was going to get Nieves I probably wouldn't have picked up Mappes and his salary. I have a catcher in AAA, Beran who is at 494 and was still improving as of last night. He is available. He has gotta stop soon. Probably hexed him for tonight and 494 will be it. RP's Ramirez and Radlosky are trade bait.
I was trying to trade Krapp but ever since Whitey talked crap about Krapp he has been pitching great. What I really would like to do is package some good MLB players and great prospects for a solid high average/high homer run MLB player.
Hmm, gotta pick on the rest of the P2 guys.
Chiz, what happened to your team? They got old really quick. I thought your P2 team was a better team then the one you brought. It was probably broke from trying to keep up with the Mighty O's.
Timing, come on back to the forum and let's bash on Brock and George Michael, I mean Wammie.
Pimpster and me were bsing last night and I got to looking at his team. Flaherty, Nunez, Mercedes, Fogg, Guerrero, and Andra all turned out to be damn good prospects that I traded him. He traded Fogg to SF in the Downs trade and he traded me Guerrero for Danning. I am sure there are some guys I am missing. Oh yeah, Glaus was a good player back in the old days and I will be damned if 36 year old Austin, and his diminishing ratings, isn't sporting one of the better ERA's in the AL.
Can't really think of anything new to tell J. I did send him a reply to the last email offer he sent out trying to trade some scrub for cash. Told him he should offer half a million to whoever would take him. Mets are playing some good ball, though, and should be play-off bound. Unlike the one year wonder Red Sox.....
Had to end this post with a dig at Brock. =)
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| 148 | J
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ID: 6512018
Sat, Jun 23, 18:34
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How has San Fran not won the world series the past two seasons???? I got my arse kicked pretty quickly!
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| 149 | Wammie
ID: 437541618
Sat, Jun 23, 19:09
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Brock, I think you are right about Tucker getting mvp. he may have taken note from the 1918 Black Sox and taken some money. I guess 10 mil a year for him isn't enough.
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| 150 | Brock
Donor
ID: 371582223
Sat, Jun 23, 23:33
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J - maybe it has to do with poor management skills. Then again, it could be the sim.
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| 151 | Sanfran
ID: 27551820
Sun, Jun 24, 00:46
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Brock what is that supposed to mean?
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| 152 | Sanfran
ID: 27551820
Sun, Jun 24, 00:48
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If i have poor management skills, then whats your excuse? You had the best power team this year and where did that get you?, um no where, so shut up.
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| 153 | Brock
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ID: 371582223
Sun, Jun 24, 17:00
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Piss off sissy boy. My skills speak for themselves. I brought my P2 team in here and turned them into one of the best teams. That's more than most can say. I didn't have a stacked team that I could use to wheel and deal for the best players. Hell I wasn't even saying you were a poor manager. I said it could be the sim. But then you have to act like a little bitch. I sure hope KC puts a thumping on you tonight. I don't want any girls winning a title in this league.
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| 154 | Sanfran
ID: 27551820
Sun, Jun 24, 17:07
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Ha Brock, go back to the excuse i brought a stacked team, when your cornered you have to fall back on your escape plan. How many world series have you been too? Pathetitic......
Whity spell check please.
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| 155 | Sanfran
ID: 27551820
Sun, Jun 24, 17:08
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You attacked me first bitch, dont go with the im innocent plan, you are such a pompus jackass.
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| 156 | axp113
ID: 250402413
Sun, Jun 24, 17:23
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I nominate Brock for the AL Instigator of the year and SanFran for the NL "Most stacked team for every season Award, without a championship "
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| 157 | J
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ID: 6512018
Sun, Jun 24, 18:29
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Wow! SF with 2 runs in the first 3 games!!!! Congrats skinneej!!!!!!!
In other news, i swept the League B World Series and Nate was the first to congratulate me ;)
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| 158 | Brock
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ID: 371582223
Sun, Jun 24, 18:55
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All this just proves that you aren't management material. Even with all the top pitching and all the top hitting, you still can't win. There is a pattern developing here. If I recall, before this league started you said you didn't win a world series in F2 or whatever league you were from. Have you ever thought about retirement?
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| 159 | Sanfran
ID: 27551820
Sun, Jun 24, 18:55
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Congrats skinnej, you whiped my arse pretty damn good in the world series. Each year i get a little closer, so next year i have to win it, right?
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| 160 | Sanfran
ID: 27551820
Sun, Jun 24, 18:55
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Brock, how many world series have you won in the merger league?????? Im just curious
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| 161 | Sanfran
ID: 27551820
Sun, Jun 24, 18:57
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Ask all my M2 mates how many world series i won, and then you can judge my managing skills, besides when and if you ever make it to a world series i hope i or my children are around to see it.
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| 162 | Sanfran
ID: 27551820
Sun, Jun 24, 18:58
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And you continue to prove my point, if im not management material, then what in gods name are you?????
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| 163 | Brock
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ID: 371582223
Sun, Jun 24, 19:25
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It's funny that you mention God and me in the same sentence. I get that a lot.
I'm going to tell you a little story. Once there were 2 managers in a GSB merger league. One came from a top league, where 85% of the owners were active and competent. Lets call him P2. The other came from a lesser league where maybe 50% of the owners were active. Lets call him F2. Now P2's league didn't have the best talent in the world and there was much parity throughout the league. Owners were very active and no one team could dominate the FA market or the draft. Then there was F2. Not as much is known about the early years of F2 but throughout the last 3 or 4 years, a few teams ruled supreme and were able to get the best FA and the cream of the crop when drafting took place. Certain owners were able to build all-star teams. Then one day, a merger league was formed. Teams from various leagues united to form a super league. P2 and F2 were among these teams. Now P2 had an average team at best when compared to F2 and a lot of others. Throughout the first 3 years of the new league, P2 was able to make trades, sign a couple of FA, and develop his prospects all while building his team into one of the top teams in the league. He barely missed the playoffs in his first season, made it to the league championship his second season, and lost in a one game playoff in his third season. These were great accomplishments considering how P2’s team started out. Then there was F2. He made many trades to acquire the very best players throughout the league. He was able to do this by trading prospects from his overly talented farm system and his all-star caliber players from his transitioned team. With a team comparable to the 2001 St. Louis Cardinals, he was able to role over anyone in his path the first 3 seasons. He had the best record each year. But when the playoffs rolled around, his team acted like the Chicago Cubs of every year. They folded. Only one person was to blame. Guess who that was? You got it, the manager.
When you try to compare these two managers, what they accomplished is not as important as how they accomplished what they did. P2 made his way toward the top by making smart moves and developing his young talent. F2 has always been at the top with the top talent but just can't seem to win the big game. Maybe not having to fight to make your team into a winner finally took its tolls on you.
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| 164 | Sanfran
ID: 27551820
Sun, Jun 24, 19:32
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Brock that is awsome, i cant believe you wrote that much, you are a mad man.
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| 165 | Sanfran
ID: 27551820
Sun, Jun 24, 19:37
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I posted a gsb message on guys i got for trade/sale.
Check your mail, but ill post it here too.
1b John Dorsett 24 485 361 466 394
of Eric Byrnes 27 499 389 338 428
Sp Josh Fogg 31 449 377 457 442
Sp Kevin Shipp 27 479 445 429 366
Rp Greg Mix 32 357 481 485 476
Rp Todd Thorn 26 499 310 403 443
Let me know
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| 166 | J
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ID: 6512018
Sun, Jun 24, 20:55
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sorry guys, go ahead and take 3 of those off San Fran's list.
I just realized how lucky I've gotten with SPs from my minors -
#4 starter is Red Stenhouse 485 345 411 437 (stars:1-3-3);
#5 starter is Les McCluskey 477 386 421 414 (3-3-2)
Both guys have career ERA's 4.13 and 3.97 (respectively)
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| 167 | Brock
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ID: 371582223
Sun, Jun 24, 21:01
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I can't believe SanFran traded you those guys for such little in return. You should be put in jail for robbery. Nice move J.
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| 168 | Sanfran
ID: 27551820
Sun, Jun 24, 21:05
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:-)
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| 169 | J
Sustainer
ID: 6512018
Sun, Jun 24, 21:08
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you guys would be proud, I tried to get Cotton from him but he wouldn't budge ;) So I settled for Caminiti.
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| 170 | Brock
Donor
ID: 371582223
Sun, Jun 24, 21:17
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I traded him both those guys J. Caminiti has probably stopped improving in either AVG or HR. I know he didn't go up too much last season because I was semi-tracking him.
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| 171 | Wammie
ID: 437541618
Sun, Jun 24, 21:24
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That was pretty much a steal J, but i have been watching caminiti after brock traded him, and i don't know if he is going to pan out. even if he is a wash, you still made a damn good trade.
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| 172 | Timing
ID: 305541216
Sun, Jun 24, 22:01
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Congrats Skinneej. Just remember, it's my turn this year.
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| 173 | J
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ID: 34451212
Sun, Jun 24, 22:18
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I think I'll still be happy even if Caminiti is done. San fran told me he was still improving in avg, if not, I dont think I'll be kicking myself or anything. I also didn't want to wait til tomorrow to check my notes on Caminiti!!!!
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| 174 | skinneej
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ID: 61472219
Mon, Jun 25, 02:00
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Timing, I felt lucky to get by your team and then was just happy to be in the series. Who would have thunk that I'd beat the most powerful team in League E. I've had the same starting rotation since the merger, so I couldn't figure out why after winning 114 games in season 1 that I barely managed to hang on and win the division the last two years with only 91 and 93 wins, respectively. My lineup has been pretty much the same as well with only a few changes since season 1, so why the difference in this postseason I don't know. Maybe it was the "win one for the gipper" speech that I gave the guys before the series.
It was fitting that Jeff Sparks, who probably had the most unlucky season possible going 13-12 with an ERA of 3.52, tossed a complete game 1 hitter to open the series and then closed the book in winning game 5. He graciously accepted the series MVP trophy, yet praised his team and GM for making it possible. "These guys are a great bunch to be around and the clubhouse is very professional yet laid back. Mr. Skin E. Jay has put together a great team, and we hope to be back next year to defend the title."
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| 175 | J
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ID: 50726110
Mon, Jun 25, 08:28
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Caminiti has gone up 7-8-10 over the last 3 sims. Woohoo!!!! Come on boy, 20 more pts in AVG, think you can do it??????
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| 176 | Wammie
ID: 20039259
Mon, Jun 25, 08:54
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damn, i didn't think he would really do that well. good luck with him J.
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| 177 | Whitey
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ID: 2543539
Mon, Jun 25, 08:56
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I agree with Brock and Wammie about the SAn Fran-New York trade.....what the phuck?
Even if that SP prospect was the best prospect ever it's still a ripoff??? San Fran, what's the deal???
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| 178 | Whitey
Sustainer
ID: 2543539
Mon, Jun 25, 08:57
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If anyone wants a 494 AVG outfielder who's only 27 (Earl Foxx), send me an e-mail
-Whitey
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| 179 | axp113
ID: 250402413
Mon, Jun 25, 09:02
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do minor leagues sign randomly or not in he free agency
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| 180 | Buchster
ID: 2134520
Mon, Jun 25, 10:15
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I'm back after a long absence and I have sent everyone a GSB message about Brian Lesher and Pete Incaviglia.
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| 181 | Timing
ID: 305541216
Mon, Jun 25, 11:44
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I guess that Ken Sims trade wasn't such a lopsided deal huh? LOL Lesher is a super stud.
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| 182 | worm
ID: 65152514
Mon, Jun 25, 14:30
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i cant get into gsb so i'lll post here. wammie and san fran, i'll be in boston june 28-july 7. if you guys want to play ball email me some info. via gsb and i am sure i'll be able to get in in the next few days.
worm
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| 183 | Wammie
ID: 20039259
Mon, Jun 25, 14:57
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bring it on worm, i played some hoops today in fact.
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| 184 | Sanfran
ID: 27551820
Mon, Jun 25, 15:23
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when ever your ready boys, i have to work on that week but got the 4th off
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| 185 | worm
ID: 65152514
Mon, Jun 25, 15:24
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email me some #'s fellas, i have a few days in between to kill. it should be a good time.
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| 186 | Wammie
ID: 20039259
Mon, Jun 25, 15:30
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i am taking the whole week off. i will play any time.
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| 187 | worm
ID: 65152514
Mon, Jun 25, 15:36
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you dont happen to play tennis do you wammie?
or maybe sand volley ball?
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| 188 | Sanfran
ID: 27551820
Mon, Jun 25, 15:51
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Hey where is pp with the awards?
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| 189 | Timing
ID: 305541216
Mon, Jun 25, 15:53
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He said they'll be ready Tuesday. Apparently not many people have voted.
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| 190 | Sanfran
ID: 27551820
Mon, Jun 25, 16:01
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Man all of axp's work is going to waste.
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| 191 | Wammie
ID: 437541618
Mon, Jun 25, 16:33
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i had planned to vote today, but was busy at work. i will vote tomorrow though. the voting sw is on my computer at work.
worm, i do play tennis. i am sure i would probalby dominate you in tennis as i do gsb.
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| 192 | Purple Pimp
ID: 393341822
Mon, Jun 25, 20:33
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Congrats KC but divison is mine next year :)... also brock i agree with you. I feel that we have turn are teams around alot sicne the p2 days. Hell i brang the same team in and they never made the playoffs in p2 ever
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| 193 | Big Poo Generator
ID: 57844423
Tue, Jun 26, 00:32
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Hey, Timing/PP, it looks like my team broke the single-season walks record! It was easy to miss, way down at the bottom of the stats there.
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| 194 | Sanfran
ID: 27551820
Tue, Jun 26, 16:17
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Who ever was biding on mike evans, im sorry, but i had to jack it up to 20 mil. After that he is all yours.
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| 195 | Purple Pimp
ID: 393341822
Tue, Jun 26, 19:42
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Ok, i as going to end the voting today, but we only have 9 voters. I am extending i to tomorrow So get them in!
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| 196 | TBRaiders
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ID: 57351168
Tue, Jun 26, 22:05
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I just looked at minor league free agents a little while ago and was shocked to see a 20+ million bid on a 28, soon to be 29, year old catcher who has a decent average and good home run rating but zilch for gap or speed. The more I thought about it, I guess you would never have to sign him to a long term deal so you would basically be paying about 5 million a season for him(including signing bonus, original 20 million and salary).
I have a 29 year old outfielder name Stemmeyer. Instead of 474-468 he is 465-474. He has much better speed and gap but is a year older. I guess his asking price would be 15 million? Anyone want him? I could only get one team to offer me 20 million for Morgan (aka Downs) two seasons ago, when he was 29.
29 year old SS Mappes is for sale too. 463-469-345-453. That sounds like 10 million to me at least. Maybe only 9 million if I take a million off for each point he is less in his average rating. But I get to add a million back for that homer rating. I like speed and think an extra couple million to go from a 200ish to 400ish speed isn't out of line. Okay, so I am just being silly.
I see that Timing just signed him. Congrats on your newest signee. May he bat under .300, only have 10 homers for the season, or break a leg after week two. ;)
TB
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| 197 | Timing
ID: 305541216
Tue, Jun 26, 22:17
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Well I doubt he'll hit .300 but I'm hoping he'll get 30-35 homers. My reasoning for signing him is pretty much what you mentioned. He'll play cheap and no need to sign him long tern. I'm surprised some of the cash rich bottom dwellers didn't jump all over him.
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