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Subject: League (E)lite: Awards and Postseason Stuff
Posted by: axp113
- [346373120] Thu, Aug 09, 13:00
S:Starter, R:Reserve
NL ALL STARS
S NL Montreal Barker, Luke 1B
S NL Houston Williams, Jason 2B
S NL San Francisco Smith, Bobby 3B
S NL San Francisco Kuilan, Hector C
S NL San Francisco Lesher, Brian OF
S NL Houston Rayford, Rudy OF
S NL Chicago(N) Milnar, Pete OF
S NL San Francisco Garciaparra, Nomar SS
R NL San Francisco Cotton, John 3B
R NL San Diego Pierce, Kirk C
R NL Arizona Monroe, Craig OF
R NL Milwaukee Alvarez, Pete OF
R NL Atlanta Incaviglia, Pete OF
R NL San Diego Abreu, Bob OF
R NL San Diego Grigsby, Tommy OF
R NL Arizona Foulke, Howie SS
R NL Montreal Singer, Bob SS
R NL Florida Castro, Nelson SS
R NL Los Angeles Reed, Denny SS
R NL Atlanta Vizquel, Omar SS
S NL San Francisco Doyle, Pat
R NL San Diego Wood, Sam
R NL San Francisco Grammas, Bob
R NL Arizona Breitenstein, Keith
R NL San Diego Wolff, Bryan
R NL Chicago(N) Tucker, Ben
R NL San Francisco Darrow, Tommy
R NL Colorado Gardner, John
R NL Montreal Mitchell, Tony
R NL Arizona Cosgrove, Mike
AL ALL STARS
S AL Boston Wright, Ron 1B
S AL Tampa Bay Weaver, Thad 2B
S AL Boston Besse, Dave 3B
S AL Toronto Swartz, Van C
S AL Anaheim May, Roy OF
S AL Boston Redman, Tike OF
S AL Tampa Bay Blakely, Darren OF
S AL Chicago(A) Sosa, Juan SS
R AL Kansas City Peoples, Danny 1B
R AL Kansas City Stankiewicz, Andy 2B
R AL Baltimore Poffenberger, Erv 3B
R AL Kansas City Cancel, Robinson C
R AL Minnesota Foster, Jim C
R AL New York(A) Christensen, Alan C
R AL Tampa Bay Torres, Monte OF
R AL Anaheim Horne, Tyron OF
R AL Oakland Stemmeyer, Art OF
R AL Boston Dunn, Todd OF
R AL Toronto Koelling, Ed OF
S AL Toronto Garces, Tim
R AL Anaheim Belitz, Todd
R AL Tampa Bay Tennant, Bill
R AL Toronto Gorrell, Chris
R AL Tampa Bay Sims, Ken
R AL Oakland Morgan, Don
R AL Texas Robertson, Rich
R AL Kansas City Sparks, Jeff
R AL Baltimore Gregg, Kevin
R AL Tampa Bay Ramsay, Robert
R AL Chicago(A) Kerins, Karl
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| 1 | axp113
ID: 346373120
Thu, Aug 09, 13:35
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i sent a league wide email for mvp, cy young and foy, i do not have time to do roy, so PP might do it, if i can get any volunteers that would be great.
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| 2 | Big Poo Generator
ID: 14857812
Thu, Aug 09, 14:25
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Ummm... does the NL really need six shortstops on the team? Does the AL need 4 catchers? What is the selection process now?
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| 3 | J
Sustainer
ID: 34451212
Thu, Aug 09, 16:35
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SW points. Which, I like the idea, but maybe we should put a cap on max # of players per position?
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| 4 | Rogue's Strikers
ID: 33732119
Thu, Aug 09, 22:03
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Interesting that 6 of the best SW-type players are SS. Of course, I'm not in favor of getting rid of some as it would undoubtedly eleminate my only AllStar. ;)
Seriously, there should be a cap of 2 or maybe 3 players per position. (6 or 9 for OF's)
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| 5 | axp113
ID: 346373120
Fri, Aug 10, 05:10
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we can change that we can make the limit:
3 IF, and 9 OF, i will update it on monday when i get back from vacation
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| 6 | axp113
ID: 346373120
Fri, Aug 10, 05:12
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2 IF can be ok also, i just did it this way becasue these are the best players, but i can change that easily
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| 7 | axp113
ID: 346373120
Fri, Aug 10, 05:26
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can someone else PLEASE do the ROY awards.
thanks
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| 8 | Charles
ID: 436102715
Fri, Aug 10, 09:11
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How come we don't get more representation from other teams as All-Star nominations? Basically, at least one player from every team, and then you could assign the rest of the positions based on whatever formula that you use. If you have a stacked team, then you could just put your whole roster up there. Basically, at least one player from every team, and then you could assign the rest of the positions based on whatever formula that you use.
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| 9 | Charles
ID: 436102715
Fri, Aug 10, 09:15
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Okay...cut and paste lesson. If you want to paste something, make sure you cut instead of copy, so you don't look like a repetitive @$$! :)
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| 10 | Big Poo Generator
ID: 57844423
Fri, Aug 10, 09:23
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I think we should stick with a minimum of 2 per position, and have a maximum of 3. Other than that, the SW points idea seems to work OK.
Charles, I see your point, but some teams just don't have any players worthy of all-star status, especially teams that are tanking. So I'm not in favor of that idea but if others like it I won't complain.
If we want to try to get more teams represented, what about this idea. We could say that if a team is not represented but has a player that has almost the same number of points as another player from a well-represented team (say within 10 points or something), the player from the unrepresented team is chosen instead.
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| 11 | Charles
ID: 436102715
Fri, Aug 10, 09:30
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I like that idea better. I agree with you that teams that are tanking players probably don't deserve to send anyone to the All-Star game. I just get tired of seeing the same teams up there, year and year out...with 8 players on the All-Star roster. It is basically just a braggin' tool...HEY..look how stacked my team is, I have 8 all-stars and 2 reserves.
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| 12 | Charles
ID: 436102715
Fri, Aug 10, 09:32
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And by the way, axp113, I am not going off on the work that goes into this. I and everyone else appreciate the effort and enjoy these awards.
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| 13 | Wammie
ID: 20039259
Fri, Aug 10, 10:19
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I don't think we should reward bad teams like MLB does. if some one's team has the 9 starting all stars, and the 5 best pitchers, then the all star team could be that whole team. if they are the best players then so be it. I also don't like the 2 play minimum thing. look at the NL All-Stars this year, jeff kent was the only 2b.
how about a minimum of 4 middle IF, 4 corner IF, 2 catchers, and 6 OF? then you could distribute the last few open spots to the best remaining players?
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| 14 | Worm
ID: 527321010
Fri, Aug 10, 10:34
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hey thad weaver made it!!!
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| 15 | Big Poo Generator
ID: 57844423
Fri, Aug 10, 11:09
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That idea sounds fine to me wammie.
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| 16 | Charles
ID: 436102715
Fri, Aug 10, 11:51
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I guess that is why you will see the stacked teams continue to provide a higher level of participation and the so called lesser teams continue to rotate owners as people lose interest. I wasn't suggesting to totatly revamp the All-Star roster system. However, if you have guys on the the bubble...some players are more valuable on bad teams because they have less to work with around them. It doesn't mean that they are not All-Star caliber and if they were on San Fran they would probably end up with the CY YOUNG or MVP award. You can continue doing what you are doing, I just thought I would ask.
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| 17 | Wammie
ID: 20039259
Fri, Aug 10, 12:28
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Charles, if you want to have an all star team of the teams who are under .500, go right ahead. the teams with good players and good records are who you want to shoot for. rebuild you team to compete with those teams, rather than ask for those standards to be lowered, so you can get there more easily.
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| 18 | Big Poo Generator
ID: 57844423
Fri, Aug 10, 13:05
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I think Charles does have a point about players being penalized for being on bad teams. The SW points system gives too much credit for runs and RBI, which are team-dependent stats. That's my main problem with using SW points for all-stars.
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| 19 | BROCK
Donor
ID: 371582223
Fri, Aug 10, 17:10
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When was it ever decided to use SW points to determine all-stars?
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| 20 | Charles
ID: 7752622
Fri, Aug 10, 19:40
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I am sorry that I wasn't blessed with a team of all-stars when I came into this league. However, I think you are missing the point. I am not asking you to lower the standards. I realize that most of the players on my team don't fit the bill and that I am not so "above" other teams. But should that exclude me to be included in your ceremony. I think not. If for instance, Greg Maddux was on a below .500 team and didn't post as good of numbers as if he would have been on the Yankees....according to your system you would exclude him?? Interesting. I really don't care and I realize that my team is below yours Wammie, but I brought it up as a possible way to get the lesser teams involved. Since, my team is not worthy, I guess I will have to create the ALL-DUD team so that we could get representation.
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| 21 | J
Sustainer
ID: 34451212
Fri, Aug 10, 20:03
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Charles, dont take it personally. Just use the lack of all stars as incentive to go out and get some! I don't have any all stars either. One of these days, S.F. will have no all stars too (although, it'll probably be somewhere around season 20). It takes alot work to do the all star teams, and to put in criteria, such as one player from every team, well, that takes even more work.
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| 22 | Charles
ID: 7752622
Fri, Aug 10, 23:26
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J-
I am represented with an All-Star this year...I was just giving a suggestion. As stated in a prior thread, I appreciate the work that goes into creating this list. I was providing a possible modification to get more participation with losing teams. You are right, it would be a lot more work. However, at the same time, if it was just stated as such, and not an assumption that I was looking for a way to lower the standards, I wouldn't have taken such offense.
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| 23 | Rogue's Strikers
ID: 33732119
Sat, Aug 11, 01:11
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Wammie, I like the 4 middle IF, 4 corner IF, 2 catchers and 6 OF idea. However, there should be a minimum of 1 player per spot. Thats probably assumed already, but say the top 4 corner IF's were all 3rd basemen. We'd have no 1B All-star. Other than that, I too would like to see one representative from each team, but its not a big deal.
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| 24 | Sanfran
ID: 27551820
Sat, Aug 11, 09:55
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Hey since I cant win a world series, my allstars are all i have, now you wanna take that away from me too... :-)
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