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0 Subject: Strato Help

Posted by: R
- [55425922] Sun, May 12, 2002, 03:00

I just created my 2nd strato team since my first
one was horrible. I am pretty set on my hitting,
but my starting rotation is what I am having
problems with.
For those who are familiar with this years
strato game, I could use some help.

I could go with a 4 man rotation of Moose,
Burkett, Weaver, and Pettite. (Average Era:
3.57, WHIP: 1.22)

Or I could go with a 5 man rotation of Pedro,
Moose, Santos, Lopez, and Weaver. (ERA:
3.36, WHIP: 1.26)

I am leaning towards the 5 man rotation
because if i kept that staff all season, I would
get a total of 72 starts from Pedro and Moose.
The only thing stopping me is that the 5 man
option is that it includes 2 starters with S5
ratings for endurance (although i have seen
pitchers with this rating throw complete
games already). My bullpen isn't that
dominating, I got Stanton for righties, Garces
for lefties, and Dejean as my closer.
Any suggestions?

btw, sorry about the format of my post, im on
an imac and can't get my message to type
across the screen
1Shelby-villian
      ID: 111412312
      Sun, May 12, 2002, 12:54
Either way you go, I would strongly suggest
upgrading your closer. The more you spend
on pitching, the closer the games become as
the games tend to be low scoring from good
pitching and less offense. From my league,
I've seen a lot of blown saves and I'm
convinced its worth the money to put down for
a quality closer.

I have Foulke and even though he had a rocky
start, lately he's been pretty dominant and with
his endurance can pitch 2.0-1.1 innings.

I suggest you spend 5+ million with a C6
rating and a high KO/BB ratio. My 2 cents.
2Dean
      ID: 151132204
      Sun, May 12, 2002, 16:50
This could totally be just personal preference -- I can't prove anything I'm saying here -- but I think having a great rotation is very overrated. I would much rather take my chances with a mediocre rotation and a great bullpen than the opposite. It just seems like it works better, although I couldn't really say why that would be. That of course means not just an excellent closer, but at least three excellent middle relievers too.

I think the four-man rotation specifically is even more overrated, because you lose the ability to match up against specific opponents, and that is so important. It's nice to get 40 starts out of Randy Johnson, there's no doubt about that. But you don't need a four-man rotation to do that... you can just pitch him every fourth day, and maneuver the other four guys around based on the opponents they'll be facing. I would rather do that.

I would avoid the fatigue 5 starters... I know Santos' card is pretty great, and the fatigue 5 guys can of course pitch a complete game on any given day, but over the season, it's going to take a toll on your bullpen. Unless you don't mind carrying 11 or 12 pitchers... then it's ok. If you do carry 11 or 12 pitchers, though, they all have to be good, which is what makes it tough to do that. Unlike your bench hitters, your minimum wage pitchers will get into the games regularly, so you can't have any scrubs.
3R
      ID: 55425922
      Sun, May 12, 2002, 17:59
Thanks for the insight guys.

I have read posts on how a great starting
rotation isn't always a wise choice to spend
money on because of the 50-50 player card
splits. Makes perfect sense.

Anyways, I ended up with a rotation of Pedro,
Burkett, Dotel, Santos, and Ohka (yeah I know
Ohka sucks, but he's only going to have to
pitch 3 times every 17 days). Dotel and
Santos have the infamous S5 rating, but I just
can't justify selling them after looking at their
player card matrix.

My bullpen remains almost the same with
Colome (lefties), Stanton (righties), and
Dejean is my closer. While these players are
all cheap, they still look pretty solid. I also got
Weber (who is 500k but has pitched extremely
well in my other league) and Pote who has
also pitched well.

I want to upgrade that bullpen but its real
difficult unless i make huge downgrades. My
hitting seems superior to other teams in the
league so I was just banking that my staff
could keep the other teams to about 5 runs a
game. My lineup looks like this:

Lefties Righties
Alomar / Deshields (dh)
Jose Cruz / Alomar
ARod / ARod
Helton / Helton
Aramis / Cruz
Big Hurt (dh) / Aramis
Dye / Dye
Mcewing / Mcewing
Gil / Gil

The only way I could upgrade my bullpen is to
downgrade Helton to maybe Thome or Edgar.
I don't wanna touch Arod or Alomar because
no other option can compare to those too.

I got till tomorrow to decide, maybe I'll just take
my chances with the way my team is now.

Oh yeah, there are a whole lot of awesome
free agents left in my league because one
team only has 500k players on his team. He
says he wants a challenge and has over 65
million left in the bank. ahahahha. The funny
thing is that he is in my division, so I get like
30 free wins.

4Shelby-villian
      ID: 111412312
      Sun, May 12, 2002, 20:19
Dean- I agree with you that its important in this
game to get good relievers, mostly because
the AI is so bad with matchups.

For example, it's impossible to get a cheap yet
lefty specialist who is only to face a tough lefty
bat because the AI will bring him in the wrong
situation or leave him in to face righties...

So until the AI is improved or a more
sophisticated pitching options are available,
its well worth spending 15 mil. on your 3
primary relievers.
5Dean
      ID: 151132204
      Sun, May 12, 2002, 21:16
It definitely doesn't use a Mike Myers or a Ray King as he would be used in real life... no doubt about that.

I wager that guy is gonna put a team together before Opening Day. I considered "skipping the draft" myself... not because it really makes any sense as a strategy, but just to see how good a team you could make...
6R
      ID: 55425922
      Sun, May 12, 2002, 21:32
Well, if you got 25 bucks to waste, i guess
skipping the draft would be interesting, but I
think most people wanna at least give
themself a shot at winning.
7MikeJ
      ID: 52134320
      Sun, May 12, 2002, 23:18
Skipping the draft might not be such a bad strategy. If the guy who did that knows what he's doing, takes a fairly even park, and is willing to stay up past 2AM the night of the draft to jump on FA's, he has as good a shot of winning as anyone. The salary cap is so tight that there are guaranteed to be oodles of great players available, and he also has the opportunity to check his divisional opponents, which are obviously the most important match-ups, since 90 games are against those three teams.

I have 2 teams, and on the first one, I only kept about 8-10 guys from my original draft. I'm doing fine so far.

As far as general advice, the best advice I can think of is to grab the bargains. Guys like Jose Hernandez, Miguel Cairo, Delino DeShields, TJ Mathews, Craig Counsell, and others are dirt cheap and can contribute mightliy if used properly. Getting useful bargain basement players frees up money to get real studs elsewhere.
8R
      ID: 55425922
      Mon, May 13, 2002, 02:22
Anyone know what kind of effect a turf or grass
field has in stratomatic?
9R
      ID: 55425922
      Tue, May 14, 2002, 00:29
Well, I opened up my season today against
the team made up of 500 k players. Guess
what...he took one game from me. I was
thinking sweep all the way.

I had Burkett starting, with a lineup of Alomar,
Cruz, Arod, Helton, Thomas, Ramirez, Dye,
Mcewing, and Gil, and he somehow managed
to beat that with all his cheapies. So much for
being realistic.
10Toral
      Sustainer
      ID: 2111201313
      Tue, May 14, 2002, 01:14
Burkett starting? As for realism...there's no guarantee Burkett could beat a AA team on any given day.
11R
      ID: 55425922
      Tue, May 14, 2002, 01:39
Toral-
I don't understand your point. Stratomatic
uses 2001 stats where Burkett was an
excellent starting pitcher. In 220 innings, he
posted a 3.04 ERA and a 1.17 WHIP.
12Dean
      ID: 151132204
      Tue, May 14, 2002, 02:49
Of course they're gonna win a game once in a while, even beat some good pitchers.

There used to be an optional rule making it easier to steal on turf, but I just tried it in the CD-ROM game and the guy had the same chance to steal on turf or grass... so it looks like turf does not in fact make any difference.
13MikeJ
      ID: 593113011
      Tue, May 14, 2002, 12:00
That guy kept his 500K lineup for opening day? Wow, I thought you meant he drafted all 500K players, and planned on building a team after the draft. He is toast, and there should be some kind of rule against this, like a 70 mill minimum against the salary cap. With 90 games played in the division, a joker like that throws competitive balance totally out of whack.
14R
      ID: 55425922
      Tue, May 14, 2002, 18:41
A lot of people in the leage are pissed and
complaining to the guy, but he defends his
lineup by saying that he plans to use his 65
million in the bank later "when he needs it."
He claims that it is part of his strategy to stay
away from the 20% loss when picking up a
free agent.
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