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0 Subject: Fantasy Basketball Sim League

Posted by: Kevin
- [14322239] Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 11:28

Hey all,

If you're a fan of fantasy basketball or sim leagues, there's an online fantasy basketball game that's really neat. Check it out at:
http://www.courtrivals.com

Rather than form a team of real players, you create your own player, train that player, and act as that one player. You then can create/join a team with your friends and play against real people around the world in games that are simulated nightly. It's like a basketball multiplayer online game.

Go and sign up now (it's free). There's an in game tutorial to teach you how to play.

-Kevin
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46Donkey Hunter
      ID: 4341818
      Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 11:15
Re: 43 Hey we dominated the 3rd quarter 23-21.

Also their filler player somehow managed to outscore ours 14-3.

Re: 45 Mine seems like he is doing worse as he trains more also. The more I look at this game the more i think we have little to no control over what is going on. Look at some of the top ranked players in the game. The number 2 player is averaging 4.8 points per game.

The only thing i can think of is that I think the more you train in some areas the worse you become in the areas that you dont train in. When you first start you are very even in all areas so you put up good numbers in all areas but as you train rather than help the areas you train in it hurts the areas that you dont train in.
47wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 11:21
i try to keep my training even, except i focused on endurance, to keep my guy on the court and 3 pointers. well i am shooting about 20 % from 3 point, i guess i will try to even out the other cats.
48PuNk42AE
      Donor
      ID: 036635522
      Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 11:23
Endurance only affects how many training points you get, it has nothing to do with playing the games.
49wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 11:29
oh really, interesting. I guess i wasted alot of points. I thought it would keep me on the court and at full speed.
50RecycledSpinalFluid
      Dude
      ID: 204401122
      Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 11:50
The thing I don't like is the games over use of 3 pt shots. Nowhere near reality.
51PuNk42AE
      Donor
      ID: 036635522
      Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 12:38
Well if you max your endurance at 20 then you keep getting 20 points to work with at midnight, so it isn't a waste, if that's the first thing you kept building on you'd have the most points to work your player for the forseeable future.
52youngroman
      ID: 3751268
      Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 12:53
my player also gets worse. I am putting most of my points into shooting. I am currently at 37, 25, 25 and my percentages are .344, .333 and .625.

I wonder what attribute does the most for the performance of your player/team.

post 44 seems very important as the season progresses. not today and not tomorrow, but in 5 days I see some Training Management going on.
53dpr
      ID: 1733917
      Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 14:22
i think using the strategy in post 44 helps eliate the problem now

Try to use as much of the longer training times as possible while still using all your points. This will delay when you reach the point when you can;t use all 20 points
54youngroman
      ID: 2934823
      Mon, Apr 28, 2008, 04:10
I don't get this game. I am now at Level 50 in Shooting and what do I shoot? 2 of 10, worst on the team.

how is 3. Drainer set up? he is our stud so far.
55Donkey Hunter
      ID: 4341818
      Mon, Apr 28, 2008, 08:43
I was concentrating on rebouding and it has been going up. 5, 7, 7, 8 in the last 4 games. The game claims that the abilities of the opponent have an effect on your stats and that team that beat us is the only undefeated team in the league.
56wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Mon, Apr 28, 2008, 08:57
I have completely focused on shooting- and 3 pointers and my points have stayed the same every game.
57PuNk42AE
      Donor
      ID: 036635522
      Mon, Apr 28, 2008, 09:06
The creator also said that if everyone is the same level the points will be spread out pretty evenly and so on. So for points to not be changing alot of players are probably working the same skills.
58wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Mon, Apr 28, 2008, 09:10
i understand that, but 3 drainer is only like 5 skill points ahead of me, and he is scoring 30 a game.
59dpr
      ID: 12347289
      Mon, Apr 28, 2008, 11:51
My stats are:

speed 28
endurance 20
ball handling 21
passing 22
shooting 34
3 pt shooting 56
FT Shoooting 29
Dunking 19
Rebounding 27
Blocking 16
Defense 20
Leadership 22

I have spent most of my time doing 3 point shooting as it now takes 2:45 to train. cant do it too many times a day anymore. 2 pt shooting is at an hour and everything else is less
60wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Mon, Apr 28, 2008, 12:18
my stats are

Speed 32
Endurance 20
Ball Handling 24
Passing 25
Shooting 29
3 Point Shooting 49
Free Throw Shooting 27
Dunking 23
Rebounding 24
Blocking 18
Defense 22
Leadership 23
61Donkey Hunter
      ID: 4341818
      Mon, Apr 28, 2008, 12:42
The way training is set up I think I am less likely to buy a premium subscription the more I play the game. When all my training was 15-20 minutes it would have been nice to set up five at a time. Now that it takes a few hours I only need two and can check back before they finish.
62weykool
      ID: 2842717
      Mon, Apr 28, 2008, 12:52
My guy is set up to be the next Chris Paul.
I did buy the $5 premium to make things easier.
As DH points out after a certain point it isnt as useful.

Attribute Skill Lvl
Speed 37
Endurance 20
Ball Handling 39
Passing 53
Shooting 23
3 Point Shooting 20
Free Throw Shooting 27
Dunking 10
Rebounding 10
Blocking 5
Defense 26
Leadership 33

Training times:
Attribute Time
Speed 0:55
Endurance 1:05
Ball Handling 1:15
Passing 2:25
Shooting 0:35
3 Point Shooting 0:20
Free Throw Shooting 0:10
Dunking 0:05
Rebounding 0:05
Blocking 0:05
Defense 0:10
Leadership 0:20
63youngroman
      ID: 3751268
      Mon, Apr 28, 2008, 13:32
Kevin Johnson, SF:
Attribute             Start    now   training time
Speed 24 31 0:40
Endurance 11 20 0:50
Ball Handling 18 20 0:15
Passing 20 20 0:05
Shooting 20 52 2:45
3 Point Shooting 20 25 0:30
Free Throw Shooting 18 25 0:40
Dunking 20 21 0:10
Rebounding 17 26 0:50
Blocking 17 25 0:45
Defense 20 34 1:15
Leadership 20 20 0:05
64Donkey Hunter
      ID: 4341818
      Mon, Apr 28, 2008, 13:38
Speed 19
Endurance 20
Ball Handling 12
Passing 14
Shooting 22
3 Point Shooting 16
Free Throw Shooting 18
Dunking 34
Rebounding 64
Blocking 41
Defense 29
Leadership 25
65Donkey Hunter
      Leader
      ID: 916288962
      Tue, Apr 29, 2008, 10:12
We lost by 12 to a team that has 3 of the top 4 players in the game. Frickin Tall went off for 39 points on 12-16 from the field, 7-9 from 3, and 8-10 from the line. No idea where that kind of stat line comes from. Especially when noone else scores double digits. Weird AI.
66wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Tue, Apr 29, 2008, 10:18
my player continues to get worse with 20 TC every day. Maybe i should stop training and see what happens.
67Frick
      ID: 23117516
      Tue, Apr 29, 2008, 10:46
I don't know where that came from either. I had been averaging double digit games after my initial game explosion.

I wonder if they didn't have a human player that could guard me, or if the AI is that funky.

I have been training with the goal of having a minimum of 20 to 25 in every area. I had been putting all of my training into 1-2 areas.

I need to look into calculating how much time I will spend each day training each skill so that I can maximize my 20 tc points.
68Donkey Hunter
      Leader
      ID: 916288962
      Tue, Apr 29, 2008, 12:35
I actually created the 10th player on the team Tucker Lynn and have not trained him at all. I used my wifes email and dont want to get that player too involved for fear of having my original player taken away. But he has his original settings and he sucks so far so I don't think that will help.
69dpr
      ID: 1733917
      Tue, Apr 29, 2008, 20:25
without having the premium memborship it is getting hard to use all of my training points in a day.
70youngroman
      ID: 2934823
      Wed, Apr 30, 2008, 05:28
T Lynn our topscorer last night. WTF? he is untrained! is the amount of training you do each day affecting your playing performance. it really looks like it.

looking at my Levels I guess that I can only spend all of my training points for 3 more days. then the training average will be well above 1:12 and it will get tricky to use all of them. if training really affects the players game than Kevin Johnson should be a force next week.
71Weykool
      Leader
      ID: 41750315
      Wed, Apr 30, 2008, 09:49
Just train on some of the other things that take less time.
Without prem just choose a short one and then a longer one.
The when the short one is over add another short to the Q and then remember to come back after both finish.
If you repat that process you will use 3 training per time you check in on things.
72wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Wed, Apr 30, 2008, 10:53
I am about ready to quit playing this game. I think it is set up very poorly. I have spent 20 TC on my guy every day and he gets worse and worse every game, and players who dont train are the leading scorers. It makes no sense.
73RecycledSpinalFluid
      Dude
      ID: 204401122
      Wed, Apr 30, 2008, 11:06
I think I'm in the same boat as you wiggs.

Heres my guy right now:
Speed: 33
Endurance: 20
Bal Handling: 16
Passing: 12
Shooting: 51
3pt Shoot: 20
FT Shoot: 20
Dunking: 27
Rebounding: 34
Blocking: 30
Defense: 31
Leadership: 32


My lines are a consistent: 2-7 FG, 2-3 FT, 3 RB, 6 Pts.

This sim needs a lot of development. Once its matured some, I'll revisit, but for now, its just a time waster.
74RebelFan
      Sustainer
      ID: 014833716
      Thu, May 01, 2008, 01:28
Don't know if you guys care to look elsewhere, but I have been playing at cyberdunk.com for the last couple of seasons there. Training and game preformace seems to make some sense, although like goalline in order to buy a team you either need to get a ton of referals or spend some money. But just the character play itself isn't too bad, plus they have in game betting to increase your game capital.
75wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Fri, May 02, 2008, 09:02
I am throwing in the towel on this league. I dont know if you want me to remove myself from the team or just let it play out. I am sick of checking this thing every hour or so and having my stat line not change at all.

My averages have gone down consistently since day 1 even with all my extra training.
76dpr
      ID: 1733917
      Fri, May 02, 2008, 11:33
yea i also wont be checking in regurly but wont be fully training. Let me nkow if you want me to leave team if you have a replacement. otherwise you can jsut play with my guy as is (maybe slight improvements here and there)
77Donkey Hunter
      Leader
      ID: 916288962
      Fri, May 02, 2008, 14:28
I understand if anyone wants to stop checking regularly. We have noone to replace you with so feel free to stay with the team. The site owner did post a message that his next thing to add is coaching options so hopefully we will see those soon. I am gonna keep going on just cuz I like watching my guy climb the player ranking even if it does not seem to make him a better player.
78PuNk42AE
      Donor
      ID: 036635522
      Fri, May 02, 2008, 17:16
So everyone here expects their player to be a superstar?
79weykool
      ID: 2842717
      Fri, May 02, 2008, 17:34
#78.

Um ya.
80PuNk42AE
      Donor
      ID: 036635522
      Fri, May 02, 2008, 17:41
Cool cool
81wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Fri, May 02, 2008, 21:38
i dont expect a superstar, but i dont expect him to get worse or stay the same.

Game 1 no training

9 points, 3 rebounds, 2 assists

Game 2

9,2,2

Game 3

8,2,2

Game 4

11,3,3

Game 5

8,2,2

Game 6

7,2,3

Game 7

8,2,3

Game 8

9,3,2

Game 9

9,3,3


i have been putting 20 credits in every day.
82PuNk42AE
      Donor
      ID: 036635522
      Fri, May 02, 2008, 21:59
And I bet alot of other people are too. Now if you were the only one putting points into things I could expect to see you go up, but everyone is gaining.
83wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Fri, May 02, 2008, 22:08
yeah but i have gone from like 185 overall to like 65 overall, i must be getting better.
84dpr
      ID: 1733917
      Fri, May 02, 2008, 22:19
for me I jsut didnt like having to check in 10 times a day to not really do anything. Also the game engine did seem pretty poor as the results were very random with everyone taking 3s and one game our scrub led in scoring by a lot.
85youngroman
      ID: 3751268
      Mon, May 05, 2008, 16:32
Foul-Ref-Foul and Kevin Johnson are having some Chemistry (Catch and Shoot) going on. lets see how this helps in the next game.
86Frick
      ID: 23117516
      Tue, May 06, 2008, 08:45
How do you do the Catch and Shoot?
87wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Tue, May 06, 2008, 08:59
wow, since I have stopped paying attention my numbers have exploded.
88Donkey Hunter
      ID: 4341818
      Tue, May 06, 2008, 11:58
When teammates both have attributes over 65 they sometimes form chemistry which supposedly boosts their production. Those two have a 65 shooting and a 65 passing.
89youngroman
      ID: 3751268
      Thu, May 08, 2008, 14:53
since today there are new coaching options available:
With the ball...
* Take Less 3's - Take More 3's
* Pass More - Shoot More
* Attack the Basket - Take Jump Shots

Without the ball...
* Crash the Boards - Get Back on Defense
* Take Chances on Defense - Play Conservative Defense
90weykool
      ID: 2842717
      Fri, May 09, 2008, 10:30
Be careful how you use those settings.
As the team PG I set mine to Pass more all the way to the left.
I had my fewest assists in the last 10 games and led the team in scoring.
91dpr
      ID: 1733917
      Tue, May 13, 2008, 19:26
well i did max my 3-point shooting
92Donkey Hunter
      ID: 4341818
      Tue, May 20, 2008, 21:37
Season will reset soon. I think there are playoffs on June 2 or so. There were about 150 players when we first signed up and over 1200 now so it is getting much bigger. Coaching options have been added that make it much more interesting. Here is a post from the message board of how stats will be affected at the reset.

Here's how it will work. You will be rolled back to your base attributes (Speed/Shooting/Dunking/etc.) + 10% of last season's attributes + award bonuses.

For example.... At season's end, Bob is a 790 point player with 20 endurance, 70 in each attribute category, and he won an award like "First Team Court Rivals."

At the start of season 2, Bob will have his base attributes, +7 in each attribute category, -and- he will get an additional bonus for winning an award.

His training times will also reduce as a result (because his attributes will now be in the 30-40 range instead of the 70 range)

Like I said, this was something I felt I *had* to do because training times would get so high at some point that training would be such a long and drawn out process in order to see even a marginal improvement in your player.

Historical stats like points per game, rebounds per game, etc. will all be retained.

Important to note that the 10 percent you keep rounds down. So if your category is 70 you get 7 bonus points if you have 69 you get 6.
93Weykool
      Leader
      ID: 41750315
      Tue, May 20, 2008, 21:54
My player is currently ranked #28.
Any other rankings?
Time to get everything on a even multiple of 10.
94Donkey Hunter
      ID: 4341818
      Tue, May 20, 2008, 22:24
You can see the full rankings by clicking on the rank link. Says "Rank:28 out of 1253".

Here is our full list.
17 Butters Stotch
18 Kevin Johnson
22 Skinny Valentine
29 Foul - Ref - Foul
49 Le DJ
51 Eric Wiggins
54 Ramzi Alexander
102 3-point Drainer
129 Frickin Tall
Tied for Last Tucker Lynn

If anyone knows anyone that wants to join the team we do still have that guard spot being used by Tucker Lynn.
95Donkey Hunter
      ID: 4341818
      Tue, May 20, 2008, 22:29
Also it looks like we now have divisions we are in the "Pro Conference" "Division A". Currently in 7th place amongst all the big dogs.
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